Thread 214707134

>defeated Nazi Germany, the strongest military in history
>can't defeat fucking Ukraine, a nation that is younger than many posting here

Makes zero sense. They really aren't what they used to be.

>>214707134 (OP)
GLOOWOOWEIEIEIEEENNNIIIIGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAA

They are bravely fighting the entire west you fucking glowiennigggrrrrrrr

>>214707134 (OP)
mfw three decades of deindustrializing and oligarchy caught up to me

>>214707134 (OP)
They would have got their shit pushed in without the USA and Britain opening a second front and sending them nonstop aid.
Russians have always been dogshit at war

>>214707134 (OP)
>defeated Nazi Germany
The Russian Federation never did this.

>>214707267
It was the 3rd front actually. The second front was in Africa.

>>214707134 (OP)
USSR relied on Lend Lease

well you see HATO is in the ass

>>214707267
>They would have got their shit pushed in without the USA and Britain opening a second front
i wonder how invasion of june 1944 helped us win, for example, battle of stalingrad which ended 1.5 years before that

>>214707134 (OP)
>>defeated Nazi Germany, the strongest military in history
Thanks to us! Same with Napoleon and Ottomans

>>214707134 (OP)
>what's lend-lease

>>214707134 (OP)
The USSR was 14 nations carrying Russia's uselessness

>>214707134 (OP)
>is allied to eternal Anglo - defeats Napoleon
>is allied to eternal Anglo - defeats Hitler
>is not allied to eternal Anglo - loses Crimean war
>is not allied to eternal Anglo - loses Ukraine

Notice a pattern?

The Soviet liberation of Nazi occupation involved 10x more soldiers than there are Russian soldiers in Ukraine now.

Russia could win in Ukraine, but there would have to be mass mobilization. And despite whatever you read in UK/Euro press about Putin, that's not politically feasible.

>>214707134 (OP)
Lol
USA couldn't won HALF the third world country with the other half on its side

Russia fights entire NATO and wins

>>214708986
You know you were literally ran out of Syria last year, right?

>>214708986
Rich of Russian to use Afghanistan as an example of American failure.

>>214707134 (OP)
bc they had us churkas, my grandpa solo won the battle of stalingrad on horseback(I fully trust our history books that were written after the collapse of the ussr).

>>214707134 (OP)
In WW2 they had US material support

>>214707134 (OP)
>Makes zero sense
It makes perfect sense when you realize that lend lease was a thing and that the allies were bombing the Germany so much it was the equivalent of dozens of Hiroshimas and Nagasakis every month, half of germanies resources went into the navy, tell me how much navy did the soviets fight? This Ukraine humiliation is perfectly correct when you look at history.

>>214709406
>This Ukraine humiliation

>>214707134 (OP)
The entire brain of russia fled the country in the 90s.
What is left is what has no brain. Like if only the favela was left in brazil to run the place.

>>214709442
what did he mean by this?

>>214709557
>t. 50iq

Hello, fellow redditor

>>214707134 (OP)
During World War II, the United States provided lend-lease to the Soviet Union.
Now, the United States is providing lend-lease to Ukraine, and we have the backing of Western countries.

>>214709442
It's a remarkable humiliation.
Like not even our high ranking militars expected the Russians to fail at this invasion.
You showed to the world that your military machine is rather very mediocre.

>>214709086
The Russian occupiers killed ten times more people in half the time. Much more efficient.

>>214707134 (OP)
>defeated Nazi Germany, the strongest military in history
1. russia isn't the soviet union
2. If nazi Germany did actually have the strongest military in history, it would probably still be around

The Nazis occupied France in a short space of time.
Russia may not be good at wars of aggression.

>>214707134 (OP)
tsaaaaar it's da nafo tsaaaaaaaaar

>>214709810
Oy m8, we lost cuz we took on the world.
We would have heemd anyone in a óne on one.
t. I can heem anyone itt

>>214709823
You lost us the war m8.
You shoudl have attacked the Russians but insteed went for the US.
Very dishonorable!

>>214709810
Yes, Russia is absolutely the Soviet Union only when you're yapping about hoholdomor, oppression, etc.

The Soviet Union was strong because it used human wave tactics, a style of fighting typical of communist countries, while Nazi Germany's blitzkrieg, short-term decisive battle style of fighting, was not a good match for the Soviet Union.

>>214707134 (OP)
>Nazi Germany, the strongest military in history
Kek they literally had 1/20 of the USA industrial output during the war

>>214709941
Nazi Germany didn't need to declare war on America, but some old guy with a mustache from your country declared war on America.

>>214709946
In terms of ideological continuity and desire to seem grandiose - perhaps
In terms of resources and capabilities - absolutely not

>>214710037
We honored our alliance.

>>214709997
Wrong! Also: Quality > Quantitiy

>>214710089
Germany should have occupied Britain first, so why didn't they?
The reason Japan launched a surprise attack on America during World War II was that Japan was at war with China at the time, and America imposed economic sanctions on Japan, which meant Japan had to invade Southeast Asia and the Pacific region, where American colonies were located and where oil was available.

>>214709924
>Oy m8, we lost cuz we took on the world

U had all europe as allies

Italy, Hungary, Croatia, Balts, Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey, Japan, Sweden.
Other Europe was either occupied or in civil war like Spain

Axis had waaay more powerwufl alliance than allies, yet it lost.
Basically single USSR destroyed all Germany led european alliance, USA soloed Japan

>>214710182
>USA soloed Japan
They didn't solo Japan tho

>>214710212
Their nukes did
Yeah, they cheated with skipping the occupation part, but still

>>214709946
"Soviet" space race, nuclear tech, culture, industry - Ukrainians, Jews
"Soviet" totalitarianism, genocide, war, imperialism - Russians, Georgians
Hope this clears things up

>>214710065
>ideological continuity
>tf

Which country is cool?

https://youtu.be/l9xPrfwkJYI?si=Rj6wM19Mw2sl7A-2

>>214710182
That is to far from anything real that I won't bother to correct it m8.
You have to step up your knowledge before joining such conversations.

>>214710147
Britain wasn't occupiable m8. They are an island and our navy simply wasn't enough. But on the otherhand they aren't the greatest thread from their Island position.
Mandchuria and Russias east offeres Oil too.

>>214707134 (OP)
Excuse me but the Soviet Union defeated Nazi Germany not Russia.

>>214709056
Russian bases are still in Syria

>>214710249
What is that post supposed to imply?

>>214710261
>I have no arguments

Ok, I won then

>>214710233
You're a natural comedian

>>214710231
They were still ready to keep fighting even after Hiroshima. The Kwantung army was still a thing.

World War II was over half a century ago.
Neither the Nazis nor the Empire of Japan exist anymore.

>>214707134 (OP)
>defeated Nazi Germany,
>the pic
You showed wrong flag retard

>>214710462
Yeah, should be polska flag

>>214708966
Go back hivan

>>214710477
Soviet Union is not Russia hivan

>>214707134 (OP)
Russia is hard to conquer because of its size, muddy roads and freezing winters. Russians themselves are pretty bad at fighting and have historically only had the advantage of manpower

>>214710547
k, stop seething at us about the Schlomotov-Ribbentroon pact and Kurwa Katyn then

>>214710182
classic, proper, real example of mental illness right here

>>214707134 (OP)
Help them defeat Ukraine then tag team Poland then

>>214710611
A country that did those no longer exists, now its just one part of it, a massive shithole calling itself 2nd best military in the world not being able to defeat one of the poorest cunts in Europe in soon to be 4 years.

>>214710303
Congratulation

>>214710634
>We defeated nazis ruzzia strong
>We will blink and Ukraine will know
>3.5 years later
>Geramny save us!
kek

>year 4 of special operation
Time flies hug

>>214707134 (OP)
>>defeated Nazi Germany, the strongest military in history
That was Soviet Union. The flag you posted belongs to Russian Federation, some 30 years old country formed long after the World War.

>>214707134 (OP)
Pretty sure that was thanks to burgers

>>214707134 (OP)
I think you're forgetting about a certain lend lease support here OP. Should thank us for propping up soviet logistics.
Really with our logistics specialty and Russian ability to throw endless lives at a problem we're unstoppable. Shame they gotta be paranoid cunts.

>>214710849
>>214707267
>>214707807
>MUH LEAND LEASE
Only 11% of lend lease had arrived to the USSR by the time operation Barbarosa failed and the German military was in retreat. The USSR would have survived without lend lease, lend lease just helped them counterattack into Eastern Germany and occupy Eastern Europe.

>>214710914
>Should thank us
That was the worst mistake your cunt has ever done.

>>214710938
So why did Stalin and Brezhnev say otherwise?

>>214710966
Hey it was either that or lose a lot more men finishing off the Nazis. No way in hell the Soviets would have been able to hold out long enough let along turn the tide without our aid.
So maybe we overshot it, our bad on that. Hard to tell how much was enough though.

>>214710938
Stopping the Germans, not collapsing in a stalemate and driving all the way to Berlin are 3 different things. Without lend-lease the USSR would have collapsed due to lack of food and transport by 1943-1944. You can't realize how grim things were in Russia after the German advance in 1941.

>>214711109
>Without lend-lease the USSR would have collapsed due to lack of food and transport by 1943-1944.
Greatest argument against lend-lease

>>214710966
It was also pretty bad that we didn't just nuke them afterwards like some wanted to

>>214707134 (OP)
They defeated nazi germany because they heavily outnumbered them, but the german army was much more efficient

>>214711486
Hitler was constantly sabotaging his generals, even telling them to fight to the death rather than surrender in one instance. He even murdered his best general Rommel just because he was friendly with a July 1944 assassination plat participant

>>214707134 (OP)
It's a semi-peacetime war like Vietnam/Afghanistan, but against a more advanced enemy