Thread 214750571

Would you live here?

>>214750571 (OP)
Looks like Poland, so yes.

>>214750698
Not really, your towns have a more prussian vibe (since you took em from the prussians) and ours have the standard central eu arhitecture..

It needs to be destroyed and the survivors deported back to Rozzia

>>214750784
But would you live there?

>>214750737
True, but cities that had significant Austro-Hungarian influence, like Kraków, look more similar

>>214750814
I‘d like to visit Krakow but Zagreb is soo comfy.

>>214750571 (OP)
i prefer living near the sea so rijeka would be more suitable for me

>>214750571 (OP)
No.
Even croats told me it´s boring.
Nothing to do, many old people.
Only the coast line of Croatia is nice.

i would rather live in Prague or Bratislava

>>214750737
is Zagreb still kajkavian-speaking or everyone there speaks standard Bosnian Serbian at this point?

>>214750814
Kraków and Zagreb are probably most similar cities in the former AH realm, some streets are almost indistinguishable.

>>214750571 (OP)
>perpetual scaffolding cathedral
Honestly, we should just knock it down and build a new one.

>>214750571 (OP)
I really envy you that mountain range north of the city. I wish I could have a mountain so close to me I could go for my daily incelwalks too

though I guess since it's so close to the city, it's probably pretty crowded at weekends
i need a place with no people around

>>214750992
Krakow at times looks more similar to some coastal Croatian cities than to Zagreb. Depends on the street. I think it's just the matching early modern architectural styles.

>>214750571 (OP)
I visited it a few times, only as day trips, but I enjoyed it each time (awful traffic aside). I'm not sure if I would want to live in it though

>>214751066
>it's probably pretty crowded at weekends
Not really, Croats are lazy fags. Tons of ticks up there, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1j4dxNaasQ

>>214750872
Rijeka is essentially Zagreb by the sea. A lovely town.

And like Zagreb has Samobor as a nearby weekend retreat, Rijeka has Opatija which is probably the nicest place on the Adriatic.

>>214751108
>Krakow at times looks more similar to some coastal Croatian cities than to Zagreb.
i mean, some streets in the Kraków's old town from the rennaissance era were designed by Italians so obviously there could be some resemblance to Italian-built cities on the Adriatic coast, but generally 19th century part of Kraków looks very much like the same part of Zagreb. I wouldn't be surprised if the same Viennese architects designed some of the buildings.

>>214750964
Patuljko, you know the answer

>>214751222
Samobor is absurdly overrated. It has exactly 5 minutes of "oh this looks nice" content and that's it. Even the krempite are overrated.

>>214751240
hteo sam da ti pomognem bampati ovaj tred

the cursed dwarf is here again… I can’t take this anymore

>>214751254
what is Samobor famous for?

>>214751222
My favorite seaside "Kvarner" town is Mali Lošinj. I said "Kvarner" because it's way too south from the actual bay and close to the open Adriatic far from the Croatian mainland but that's one of its charms. Also it's the biggest island town in Croatia, super clean and modern while preserving traditional buildings. They still have a functioning shipyard.

>>214750931
There‘s plenty to do, especially in the summer. Film festivals, music and dancing in the parks, classical music in old courtyards, etc.

Depends what you‘re into.

And as >>214750992 noted, there‘s picrel which has a ton of interesting places, a medival fort, mines, paintball in the old sanatorium, a bar at the top of the radio tower, numerous mountain lodges with restaurants, a shitton of trails with freshwater springs you can drink from.

You can also ski in the winter and theres a cable car that takes you to and fro the top.

>>214751322
Nothing, really. It's a destination for Zagreb people who want to feel like they went travelling without actually travelling. You drive 30 minutes to take a short stroll through the town square, eat a supposedly famous kremšnita that isn't even that good and is usually served hot instead of cooled for some reason and you call it day.

it's over for the schnitzel

>>214751417
I get that
kinda like what Lanckorona is for Kraków

>>214751254
>krempite
Serb just outed himself

And theres a lot more than 5min of shit to see in samobor. You can take the short hike to the fort ruins, check out the churches, walk alongside the river and visit the cool little baroque altars on the sides of houses.

>>214751322
Kremšnite (Cremeschnitte). Also it‘s just a traditional one day getaway for Agramers. There used to be a train running there colloquially called samoborček.

>>214751449
This is Sarajevo, moron.

>>214751488
>Kremšnite
we call that kremówka
John Paul II was a famous fan of this dessert, so it is also called "papieska kremówka" (Pope's kremówka)

>>214751488
Most of Croatia says krempita, don't be a tard.

>Agramers
Cringe.

>>214751517
>This is Sarajevo
is there any difference at this point?

>>214751408
>>214750931
I tagged the wrong Pollacke
I meant to tag>>214751066

>>214751546
We say kremšnita (Rijeka), I don't think I remember hearing the word "krempita", at least I don't associate it with kremšnita

>>214751546
Literally nobody says Krempita.

>Agram
Cope serb

>>214751554
I hate you so damn much, you polish retard

>>214751609
if I were you, I'd rather want Croatia to be associated with Bosnia than with Germany
Bosnia is cool, Germany is quite boring

>>214751609
Imagine getting triggered by Patuljko

>>214751609
>Literally nobody says Krempita.
Leave your mom's basement.

>>214751633
We already knew you were a retard.

>>214751683
Another poster just told you the same thing. Serbs say krempita afaik.

what's weird about Zagreb is how far away the old town is from the Sava
generally old medieval towns were located just on the river, with the river dividing them into two parts
meanwhile it looks like there was a lot of empty space between the Upper City and the river historically and it was only annexed into the city like in the 1960s, judging by the buildings that are there.

>>214750737
>your towns have a more prussian vibe (since you took em from the prussians)

Epic meme however only Wrocław, Gdańsk, Szczecin and maybe Poznań apply, rest of our cities are not even close to being "Prussian". Kraków, Lublin, Łódź, Rzeszów, Warszawa etc.

This is a pretty underrated building in Zagreb. It‘s got a pretty grand scale compared to the surroundings. I think it should have a different purpose.

>>214751746
From my understanding the old town was dependent on the hill's geography for defence during the middle ages

>>214751746
Zagreb came to be along the Medveščak stream that split the towns of Gradec and Kaptol. Today it is covered and the dip where it once flowed between the two hills is still visible.

>>214751895
>>214751919
thanks, that explains a lot

>>214751952
This is the site where the most prominent bridge was. The place is still called krvavi most (Bloody bridge).

>>214752017
>>214751952
>>214751919

>>214752017
why is it bloody?

>>214752106
Iirc the two towns used to fight it out there

>>214752181
based
I'm team Kaptol

What pisses me off is they demolished the western gate and adjacent wall of the cathedral.

>>214752247
The old cathedral (Kaptol in the foreground and gradec above in the background) had 1 tower. The new one was built after the earthquake in the 19th century. It‘s been closed for a while now since the last earthquake.

Here‘s a link that might interest you. It‘s a 3d digital walk throught the cathedral. Pretty well made.

Fun fact, the chandeliers are from a Vegas Casino. Afaik the cathedral needed new ones and some Croat who was a manager in Vegas asked them if they‘d like these.

https://katedrala.hr/hr/virtualna-3d-setnja-zagrebackom-katedralom-i-muzejem-bl-alojzija-stepinca/751

>>214751967
de je to? kak mogu tam dojti?

>>214752465
is it Kajkavian? sounds like Ukrainian mixed with Russian

Ukrainian
>de je ce? jak mozhu tam dojti
Russian
>gde eto? kak mogu tam dojti

>>214752465
Nisam ni ja do danas znal da je tak izgrađeno. Nemam pojma kak do tamo dojti.

>>214752527
It is, but true AGRAMER BVLLS would use 50% german vocabulary. Especially for nouns.


https://youtu.be/CVf5m2-OBWc

Danas ekipa ne zna ni kaj je fajercajg.

>>214752527
yeah, kajkavian is pretty similar to eastern slavic languages, accent even sounds like ukrainian. people are also genetically very close to eastern slavs

>>214752751
But I thought we were all Ostrogothic germans?

>>214752808
That's only when sucking German cock for more EU gibs.

>>214752884
You'd do the same if you were allowed into the EU. Well, your government is trying hard to get there

>>214752922
We have a policy of not responding to serbflags. Please adhere to it.

>>214752751
Not just Eastern, most typical Kajkavian dialects in North Croatia have a lot of features shared with West Slavic (Czech and Slovak), many of which even Standard Slovene doesn't have. The problem with Kajkavian is the bad classification of dialects in Croatia, basically every speech that uses "kaj" is considered Kajkavian, from speeches which are just standard SC to dialects that are Slovenian/ Alpine Slavic are all placed under the Kajkavian umbrella in Croatia.

Most of Zagreb looks like this, and its beautifull

>>214753166
That’s not remotely true. Commieblock are in novi zagreb which is across the river and barely Zagreb since the neighborhoods were built for housing solely.

>>214753166
kako mrzim novi zagreb

>>214753321
>That’s not remotely true. Commieblock are in novi zagreb
Have you ever actually been to Zagreb?

>>214753673
I meant planned commieblock neighborhoods. The lower and upper town and adjacent neighborhoods look nothing like that pic.

>>214753733
Trnje is adjacent and most of it is planned commie blocks.

>>214750571 (OP)
Can I get a Serbian gf

>>214753166
kako mi se svidja novi zagreb

>>214753885
True knower.

>>214752751
Kajkavian is one third Prekmurje Slovene, one third Styrian/Prlekija Slovene and one third actual Croatian from the way it sounds to me.
>>214752631
This was still completely the norm where I grew up (right by the Austrian border). Fajercajg, sraufenceger, ajzenpon, drot, lampa, ohcet, ravbsic, pok, ajmoht, krenc, pauer/pauernija, arcnije, the list just goes on and on

>>214754101
Robert Herjavec? Is this you?

>>214753321
everithing east of the centre is basicaly a variation of that, ravnice, pešča, dubrava, skroz do sesveta, most of whats built west of črnomerec is the same, theres sill patches of skučinbarek labirinths from the 60s here and there jammed inbetveen towerblocks

>>214754101
Tbqh Premurje Slovene is the most "Kajkavian" Slovene dialect.

yeah, pretty much any european city is better than 99% of American ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRTWqJITuPQ
thread theme

Looking at pics of Samobor and Zaprešić. The first is Zagreb's Kamnik, only prettier, and the second is Zagreb's Domžale, and pretty much exactly the same.

>>214750571 (OP)
>>214750802
No, thanks. Zagreb, despite being capital, will always be overshadowed by your amazing Dalmatian coast. Plus, it looks so central european I would feel like at home to the point of my stay becoming a boring experience. There isn't much to see there, except for the Old Town and Donji Grad. Plus, your parliament building (pic rel) looks like a fucking joke for being located in a small wing of a tenement.

>>214757280
It‘s not a tenement. Afaik the other entrance is the constitutional court and behind the pov there‘s where the government was until like a year ago.

>>214756838
yeah something like that. we sadly don’t have grintovec in background

>>214759056
Well, use this >>214751817 as your parliament building instead.

>>214759536
who cares

>>214759056
>>214759620
Though I must say, your parliemant building kinda reminds the Czech parliament building when it comes to such hidden location and size.

>>214759536
We need to get more brown to start putting our parliament into giant buildings or palaces

>>214750571 (OP)
Not really, why would you when you could live somewhere like Rovinj or Zadar? I would have included Split but apparently it's full of heroin junkies o algo

>>214750571 (OP)
>>214750802
>>214750860
I honestly had no clue Zagreb is this beautiful

>>214760283
Komm vorbei. Der obere Stadt hat noch die alte Straßennahmen auf deutsch an den Tabellen.

>>214760870
my heart belongs to my beloved istria but i will visit zagreb one of these days

>>214760870
Straßennamen*

HELLO????????

>>214751609
>Literally nobody says Krempita.
I do in Dalmatia

>>214761856
Guten Tag, ich bin ein Ausland-Windischer.

>>214760870
>Komm komm Švabo
>ich cajg dir wo ist toaletpapir

>>214761965
>>214751609
i ordered krempita in slovenia and croatia!!

>>214762047
*Vece papir

Never been, so can't say.
What's there to do?

>>214762228
It's like Denmark but with mountainous coast, sunny weather, catholic people and Slavic language.

>>214750571 (OP)
i think the most similar city we have that looks like zagreb is Arad

>>214762559
>it's like Denmark, except totally different