Thread 215603559

Uralic edition

>What language(s) are you learning?
>Share language learning experiences!
>Ask questions about your target language!
>Help people who want to learn a new language!
>Participate in translation challenges or make your own!
>Make frens!

Read the wiki:
https://4chanint.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Official_/int/_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki

Useful links:
>Free language‐learning book archive:
https://mega.nz/folder/INlRkAQC#CthKI9-_kmDNyrOx12Ojbw
>Books on linguistics and language courses:
https://mega.nz/#F!Ad8DkLoI!jj_mdUDX_ay-8D9l3-DbnQ
>Assorted language resources and some nice visual guides:
https://pastebin.com/ACEmVqua
>Torrents with more resources than you’ll ever need for 30 plus languages:
https://archive(dot)ph/x0dFH
>Russianon’s list of comprehensible input resources:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXd0V32TjCFsr1-F_en_lA4MI-i7JtyYf26cWLtPRec
>Massive collection of textbooks on various languages, sorted by family
https://theswissbay.ch/pdf/Books/Linguistics/
>/lang/ inpoot torrents
https://rentry.org/inpoot
>Refold Anki decks
https://rentry.org/refold

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I know there are a bunch of Japanese-language specific websites full of resources, but is there one devoted to Korean instead?

>>215603915
두루책방.com
reddit.com/r/Korean/comments/hw4gy0/the_ultimate_beginners_resource_thread/
kimchi-reader.app

have another bump

>>215591556
Don't ask people for advice, ask them what they did.

jap thread has a big breasted woman as the op pic and is always bumped
we have these autistic maps and the thread dies in a few hours

this thread sucks because you guys hate me. Sorry i pull all the bitches its not my fault. Anyways gomenasai niggas, what are you learning today? And dont say oooo i wanna learn how to pronounce „a” in a mongolian throatfucking style just say you are learning ching chong chinese bro stop scaring the hoes bro
Im learning german by watching my wifes stream

>>215606957
>autistic map
Thread dies
>3dpd
Thread devolves into simping
>duolingo meme
Thread devolves into arguing on whether duolingo is good or not
>anime girl
Comfy thread with good discussions

With every passing day my hate for pinyin grows more and more.

>>215607512
Whould yeou rarthel beh usinq GR?

>>215607646
He's a bopomofo fan

>>215607100
I'm learning Czech by watching my wives' streams

>>215607100
Nobody wants to drop everything they're doing and learn Polish. Except that one Canadian poster.

>forced to study SQL, Python, C, Cpp and R instead of Hanyu
my wicked life...

>>215610958
Just vibecode

just vibelanguagelearn

I only known 100 French words so far and only present tense but I will completely immerse myself in French (video games) and become fluent in half a year

Is there a single open-source pinyin keyboard for android that isn't shit?
I just want to watch comfy chinese youtube videos on my phone, I don't want to give my private information to the chinese government.

>>215613107
Just use gboard like everyone else and be normal

>>215591556
It's true though. Reading works just as well, if not better, but it requires repetition. I think it's much less of a hassle and much more effective to review short texts every few days than it is to grind through isolated words in Anki every day.

I am using Lute for Swedish and every day I read something new and review something old. Simple as!

>>215612385
Impossible, you need at least 105 words.

>>215612979
Finnish is the only pointless language

>>215610415
>czech
Why not hungarian?

>>215618658
They killed my parents

Why would you waste time on those languages when they don't even have cool scripts

एक حوت

I can't remember anything I see on anki

>>215621291
You might not remember it, but your brain does.

>>215621291
Are you failing reps or what?

>>215612385
drück X um zu zweifeln

>>215621291
Try writing words down when you fail a rep or see a new word
Just kinda locks them in your brain

>>215621291
Stop using it

DIX

>>215619005
You could make a cool script for fun.

>>215603559 (OP)
Languages sound the most beautiful when you've never tried to learn them

>>215627067
cope

erm... why did I never try language reactor until now, this is god mode

Monolingual textbooks are very good. Topics are laid out in a logical progression, they're in the target language, they have exercises you can do, and they teach you grammar and proper usage.

>>215628483
it's the truth and because of it I won't try to learn Brazilian portuguese so that it will always sound beautiful

languages aren't real. it's just a meme. everyone secretly speaks english and is just larping. listen to me

page 11 rip

que se fodam

μπαμπ

nigger

alright I need to go Anki mode again. the arguments against it make sense but it's just an easy way to grind vocab, maybe it'll be a good supplement to the real input

>>215633729
>the arguments against it make sense
they don't

>>215603559 (OP)
How come we don't do translate these sentences easy, med, hard no more

>>215633953
it's probably just 1 guy posting them and he only comes around once in a while

how do you people use audio cards/mining

CHALLENGE:
I tried to write related sentences, I find those more useful than disconnected ones.

>easy
My dog is big.
He likes to go for walks.
His favorite place is the park.

>medium
At the park, he runs around sniffing the grass.
I wonder what he's looking for?
When he sees another dog, he starts to wag his tail happily.

>hard
Seeing that my dog was tired, I began to take him home.
When we got home, he ran in the house and waited impatiently for me to make him his dinner.
"I'm not your slave, mister" I told him, and poured him a bowl of dog food, which he started eating before I was even finished.

>>215634705
>easy
Mi perro es grande
僕の犬が大きいです
Le gusta caminar
彼は散歩することがすきです
Su lugar favorito es el parque
彼の好きなところが公園です

>medium
En el parque merodea corriendo y oliendo la yerba
Que estará mirando?
Cuándo vee otro perro se pone a menear la cola felíz

>hard
Al ver que mi perro estaba cansado, empecé a llevarlo a casa
Cuándo llego a casa, currió dentro y esperó impacientemente que le preparara la cena
"No soy tu esclavo, hombre" le dije y empecé a servirle un plato de comida para perros, que empezó a comer, antes de que hubiese acabado.

Back on the horse
Reviews done
Going to start systematically learning the characters starting from today

>>215634705
uhhhh 我狗很大 哦-algo

>>215634705
<ئاددىي
ئىتىم چوڭ
ئۇ مېڭشقە ئامراق
ئۇ ئالاھىدە ياخشى كۆرىدىغان يېرى باغچا ئىكەن

Anyone study a language or linguistics at university? I am considering it.
>>215621291
I have been spamming 10+ Hanzi a day, only pressing 'good' if I can write them.
Whilst playing vidya, all of a sudden I could recognize some of the Hanzi immediately, even with pronunciation. It does work you just need to grind and read as well.

>>215634705
>Easy
我的狗很大。
它喜欢跑步。
它最喜欢的地方是公园。

>Medium
在公园里它闻着草而跑跑
不知道它在找什么东西?
看到其他一只狗时它的尾巴就摇摇起来。

>Hard
我的狗累的时候,我就开始带它回家。
回到家后,它马上跑进去了,又不耐烦地等着我喂它晚餐。
”先生,我不是你的奴隶”,我告诉他然后给它舀一碗狗粮,还没说完它就开始吃了。

>>215634705
>easy
My dog is big.
>Meu cão é grande
He likes to go for walks.
>Ele gosta ir para passeios
His favorite place is the park.
>Seu lugar favorito e o jardim

>>215639749
verb gostar is used with preposition "de"
>Ele gosta de ir para passeios
this is still wrong. using para here proves you are a learner and the reason i decided to correct a person with a portuguese flag writing portuguese. motion verbs are 90% used with "a" because para indicates going and not coming back.
>Ele gosta de ir a passeios
park = parque but i guess it could be a portugal difference

>>215640026
>using para here proves you are a learner and the reason i decided to correct a person with a portuguese flag writing portuguese.
Sim, sou francês, moro em Portugal há 3 meses, agora estou a aprender português de Portugal, obrigado por ajudar-me.
>park = parque but i guess it could be a portugal difference
I dont know how they make the difference between a parque and a jardim here, it doesn't seem to follow the same logic as in french, but dog parks are called parques caninos, and places with grass, trees, say a children's playground and a water fountain are called jardims

I simultaneously want to do more and less, for my daily study.

>>215640995
plural of things ending with "m" is "ns", so "jardins"
btw, both in portuguese and english you are commiting a mistake called comma splice
"Sim, sou francês. Moro em Portugal há 3 meses. Agora estou a aprender português de Portugal. Obrigado por ajudar-me." would be correct

>>215639250
>它喜欢跑步
Male animals can also be called 他
跑步 means run, 散步 means walk but when you're talking about an animal it's better to say 溜达/遛(狗 )
他喜欢溜达 / 他喜欢出去遛

>在公园里它闻着草而跑跑
First, in Chinese the subject always goes before time and location clauses.
you don't need both 着 and 而, 着 marks the verb as subordinate/simultaneous with another verb, but by adding 而 you make it another clause so the 闻着 has no main verb and sounds wrong.
他在公园(里)闻着绿草乱跑

>不知道它在找什么东西
You can't drop the subject if it's not been mentioned so this needs 我
"Wonder" you can also translate as 想不到

>看到其他一只狗时它的尾巴就摇摇起来
其他 doesn't go with specific objects, it's more general. 其他狗 other dogs 其他人 other people but 另一只狗 another (specific) dog
时 can be dropped here, it's more natural to use an 一...就... structure
You forgot to translate "happily", also the specific word for wag a tail is 掉尾巴 or 摆尾
他一看到(看见)另一只狗,尾巴就开始开心地摆起来

There's too many mistakes in the hard part for me to correct without changing the entire structure of your sentences

I spend so long writing a correction and you let the thread die huh is that how this works?

>>215643869
bump

>>215643869
I don't speak Chinese but I appreciate the effort posting

>>215643869
and a ching chong bing bong to you as well

I learn French so I can consume English-language media (or Japanese) in French dub

>>215645525
I'm jealous of French learners, anything you could possibly want is translated

Would germans appreciate if I learned a little bit of german to communicate with them on my trip in December or should I just stick to english?

>>215607512
wo de lao po zhi nai jiang

>>215621291
kek same, I know it's the exact same thing but I learn better writing list of vocabs by category on an excel/google sheet

>>215639089
Don't it's a very meme major

>>215641719
i would rather not use a semicolon, it's gay as shit

>>215645904
personally i always pretend i don't speak english at all when somebody approaches me without even having learnt how to say hello in german in my country, but that's just me
i think just english would probably work in bigger cities, but it can't hurt to show having put in the bare minimum amount of effort

French conjugation makes no sense, i hate it immensely

>>215646498
what's illogicalabout it in particular

>>215646503
half of the conjugations are homophones, but other than that it's not that bad.

>>215645525
I am watching Attack on Titan in Spanish but I think that watching the German dub would be more kino

>>215646503
There's only one logical conjugation, and it's for er verbs.
re ir and any others have a lot of irregularities which make no sense, just random shit

Stupid ass language

>>215646763
Why are you learning it?

>>215646763
Anki deck for french conjugation has 2000+ cards. Good luck to learn them all.
And you need this to just use verbs. Im not even talking about french grammar.

>>215646763
can you give an example

>>215646798
I like french people and how this language sounds like

>>215646422
Yeah, that’s something I actually did when I visited Italy, Spain and France. However, because their languages are closer to mine, I actually felt more at ease learning them and improvising when needed.

Aside from english, which is already a very weird germanic language, I have zero experience with germanic languages, so german is very intimidating to me.

>>215646828
You don't need to learn them all you get a feel for it eventually

i want to kill myself. Dont study STEM bros

>>215646992
You're supposed to pick one letter that's your problem
t. T

>>215647033
I do AI so its all letters

>>215646850
finir présent de l'indicatif

je finis
tu finis
il finit
nous finissons
vous finissez
ils finissent

but venir

je viens
tu viens
il vient
nous venons
vous venez
ils viennent

and couvrir

je couvre
tu couvres
il couvre
nous couvrons
vous couvrez
ils couvrent

all of them are from -ir group, right?

https://www.lawlessfrench.com/grammar/irregular-ir-verbs/

>There are around 60 irregular –ir verbs, but that doesn’t mean you have to memorize 60 different verb conjugation tables. Thanks to patterns in the conjugations of most of these verbs, you only need to learn 21.

Only 21 patterns! Im grateful! And dont forget that you need to learn 7 different tenses for each pattern. 21*7=147 tables for ir group.

Infinitive (one card)
Present participle (one card)
Past participle (one card)
Present (six cards: je, tu, il/elle, nous, vous, ils/elles)
Imperfect (six cards)
Preterit (six cards)
Future (six cards)
Conditional (six cards)
Subjunctive present (six cards)
Imperative (three cards: tu, nous, vous)

>>215647033
but i must know the most useful verbs

>>215647374
That's T

>>215647472
Those irregularities are to make things easier to pronounce
Like I said you will get a feel for it, listen more instead of ankigooning 4000 verbs

>>215645748
>anything you could possibly want is translated
The same with spanish and german.

>>215647628
That's one of the reasons I want to learn German someday, but I won't dabble
I'm lucky there's a lot of movies/TV shows in Czech but I don't usually watch those, I want games

>>215647609
well, actual listening requires a huge vocabulary which requires a lot of ankigooning as well, so everything is about anki in language learning

btw, these verb endings are pronounced differently that they are written
and some tenses arent used in everyday speech (preterit)

>>215648272
>actual listening requires a huge vocabulary
Not really. You won't understand everything but you'll pick up the words you know and a few you don't, which makes learning their definition easier later
>btw, these verb endings are pronounced differently that they are written
You get used to it

>>215646992
Look at the bright side, at least there's not many women in your classes so you'll never get laid

>>215634705
played around with the german; french is probably pretty rough. Thanks for the challenge; feel like there haven't been any in forever.

Mein Hund ist groß.
Es freut ihn, wenn ich mit ihm Gassi gehe.
Sein Lieblingsort ist der Park.

Am Park rennt er rum, schnuppernd am Gras.
Ich frage mich, wonach er sucht.
Immer wenn er einen anderen Hund sieht, fängt er an fröhlich mit dem Schanz zu wedeln.

Haben festgestellt, dass mein Hund langsam müde wurde, machte ich mich auf den Heimweg.
Als wir nach Hause gelangen sind, ist er sofort reingelaufen und sobald er drin war hat er sich erwartend vor mir gesetzt, mit Ungeduld ins Gesicht geschrieben, wartend auf mich, dass ich ihm das Abendessen endlich anrichte.
"Ich bin doch nicht dein Sklave, Herr" hab ich ihm erzählt und ich habe ihm eine Schüssel Hundefutter eingeschenkt, was er schon angefangen hat, zu verschlingen, ehe ich überhaupt fertig mit dem Einschenken war.

mon chien est gros.
il aime se promener.
son lieu préfère est le parc.

au park, il court partout renfilent l'herbe.
je me demande qu'est-ce qu'il cherche.
quand il regarde un autre chien, il se met à remuer la queue.

>>215634705
Don't fall for it guys, he's tricking you into outputting before you're ready and your brain will never recover!

>>215646498
agreed

I find it way more difficult to get a handle on than german conjugation. I think I'm just gonna accept I suck at it and will for a long time while hoping immersion eventually solves the problem.

>>215648983
Es ist durch für mich. Blöderweise bin ich auf seinen bösen Trick reingefallen und bin jetzt zum Einsprachigtum für immer und ewig verurteilt. Ein Schicksal schlimmer als der Tod an sich.

>>215648867
I have a gf and like 40% of my class is women.
'AI' is just psychology with python classes

>>215648945
>son lieu préfère est le parc.
I'd use endroit here but I don't know why lieu sounds wrong to me
>au park, il court partout renfilent l'herbe.
Sentir
>je me demande qu'est-ce qu'il cherche.
You can drop qu'est- (keep the ce), including it here makes it sound more like
>I ask myself, "what is he looking for"?

>>215645525
I'm jealous
>>215646724
German one isn't that good unfortunately. French dub is almost always perfect. Although in general it is better now than it used to be in all languages, because they take it more seriously now

Never output. You don't need it. You will ruin your brain.

>>215651201
Don't ever even consciously input a language. Kids don't do that when they learn their native language

>>215650401
I just thought it would be cool because a lot of the characters have German sounding names.

>>215651804
Me too. :(

>>215649291
merci

remember that it's not rude to not say "hello" back, rather, it is rude of the native speaker to bait you in this egregious way to potentially do irreparable damage to your accent in early stages of your language learning journey (up to and including C1), stunting your chances to ever be a happy person

>>215652885
This but it shouldn't be rude for natives to ignore dabblers trying to greet them in their native language

>>215646913
don't be mislead, germans irl are not like on this website and will probably just be happy you know how to say hello and thank you
they're generally pretty helpful and sincere no matter what

>>215653102
based germans

anyone tried talking to sesame.com for speaking practice? it seems to be able to speak most of the popular languages at varying levels of competence. it's interesting to see how well your accent is understood by the AI.
free TL robot girlfriend as long as you're ok giving up your voice data to silicon valley.

>>215656442
At first I thought that it would allow me to talk to Sesame street characters

INPUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Once you've mastered a language your reward is a guaranteed gf from that language community

>>215656442
got her to speak japanese with me but i got nervous and hung up...

>>215657754
Liar!

>>215657754
My wife won't allow me to have a girlfriend.

I'm at an impasse, should I:
1) Improve my conversational Spanish/French? (useful for work)
2) Further improve my fluent Mandarin? (useless for my work)
3) Make my basic A2 Japanese fluent (useless for my work)
4) learn Polish (useful for my work)

The more I delay in making the choice the more time I waste :(

>>215658634
Go for the useful ones.

>>215657754
where is my british rose gf then

>>215659163
>mastered

>>215658634
how is polish useful for your work do you work in a toilet factory

>>215659481
I mastereded it though

>>215659840
You must've missed a word somewhere

>>215657754
Well where is she?

>>215659653
not far off it. Big project in Poland next year

>>215603559 (OP)
What's good reading to pair with Dreaming Spanish?

>>215619005
I will learn Greek solely for the alphabet. I'm also tempted to learn Georgian for this reason

>>215662600
i'd say those are the better sounding alanguages
a shame theres so not so many resources on georgian

>>215658634
INPOOOT spanish french
make japanese fluent and learn some polish

>>215649291
>use endroit here but I don't know why lieu sounds wrong
is it like saying place vs location ? something more formal or archaic ?
my french teacher also told us to use endroit in those cases but never explained a rule

for me, it's RobWords

>>215663196
hate that grifter

wait what
this video's title is shown in spanish because my youtube is in spanish and the channel enabled auto-translation of video titles
however, the thumbnail also is in spanish, while the video is neither AI dubbed into spanish, nor does it feature spanish subtitles, not even automatically generated ones
what kind of giga retarded design choice is that?

>>215658634
Try Polish. I usually discourage learning Polish, but if you have both the desire and the reason to learn, give it a try. At worst, you'll quit quickly.

>>215661019
isn't their whole shtick no reading?

Scottish Gaelic is so easy compared to Irish its insane. In theory they should be around the same difficulty but Scots clearly enunciate every syllable when they speak while Irish talk at warp speed and slur everything with zero space between words

ppl who have learned french, how did you it? its necessary to study grammar ? i havent studied the english grammar and -i think- i can communicate my ideas very well.
plz give me your best method to learn french. i want to try to learn it in a communicational level at least for january, w do you think? i speak spanish, portuguese and english

>>215665372
get a french gf

>>215665398
its ovah then

someone said "once you've mastered a language your reward is a guaranteed gf from that language community"

i want my south german brazilian foid. it was promised to me 3000 years ago.

>>215634705
>Fácil
Mi perrito es grande.
Le chifla dar unos paseos.
Su lugar preferido está el parque.
>Mediano
En el parque, él corre por todas las partes y huele la hierba.
¿Me pregunto de lo que él busca?
Cuando ve un otro perro, comienza a menear la cola con alegría.
>Difícil
Vi que mi perrito estaba cansado, comencé a llevarlo a casa.
Cuando llegamos a casa, corrió en el casa y esperó que hicierale la cena.
"No soy tu esclavo, señor" le di, y le eché un cuenco de comida para perros, lo que comenzó a comerse antes de que todavía acabara.

>>215643869
Life got in the way so I couldn’t check back until now. Sorry! And thank you for the effortpost!

>>215661019
Harry Potter

Best iOS app for reading?

>>215665372
english is stupid ass language, of course you can use it without knowledge of grammar, and you have english content during your whole life

>>215662930
I don't think it's technically wrong, just not how it's usually said. I guess lieu is more like place. Lieu can be used to say "instead/in place of" or "takes place" or a physical space
Both can refer to a location, endroit is more commonly used. Lieu sounds more formal, but otherwise I don't know the rule

Я хoчy yчитьcя pyccкий, нo мнe нe нpaвитcя /лaиг/. Гдe я мoгy идти? Pэддит?

>>215603559 (OP)
I am looking for youtubers from ex-yu countries for inpoot but all I can find are the big normie ones who are aimed at 12 year olds with adhd. Does anyone have an interesting channel they can recommend?

>>215663912
No, they encourage it. They just suggest you get more audio input before getting into it.

>>215634705
μέγας ὁ ἐμὸς κύων
φιλέει φοιτάειν
ὁ κῆπος φίλτατός οἱ

ἔνθα καὶ ἔνθα τρέχει ἐν τῷ κήπῳ πόης ὀσφραινόμενος
ἐνθυμέομαι τί κοτε ζητέει
ὅταν ἄλλον κύν' ἴδῃ μακαρίως σαίνει

κεκμηῶτ' ἰδὼν τὸν κύν' ἦρξ' οἴκαδ' ἐλαύνειν
οἴκοι ἥκων εἴσω ἔθεε καὶ σφοδρῶς ἀναμιμνέεσκέν μ' ἵν' οἱ τὸ δεῖπνον παρασκευάζοιμι

French is a meme language

Languages suck ass. Language learning doesn't worth it.

>>215675929
Sounds like sour grapes cope to me. The fruit of language learning is every bit as juicy and sweet as it seems, you just have to: Do. The. Work.

we doin' the work in this thread

>>215675598
Just say
>c'est quoi

>>215603559 (OP)
Help me improve my pronunciation please.
Can you understand what am I saying?
Sorry for the bad mic
https://voca.ro/13tHdYGUpNhl

Anyone tried out online language tutoring for conversation? (italki, preply, etc)
I like the idea of paying a pretty woman to speak TL with me.

>>215676991
Italki is filled with babes.

>>215676880
I can't really tell what you're saying (singing really), half the time it doesn't even sound like English.

>>215676880
Щe cъм чecтeн: нe paзбpaх нищo.

>>215634705

meu cão é grande
Ele gosta de fazer passeios
o lugar favorito dele é o parque

No parque, corre em volta a cheirar a relva
O que será de que ele está a procurar?
Quando ele vir outro cão, começa a abanar a cauda alegremente

Ao ver que o meu cão estava cansado, levei-o para casa

Quando chegámos a casa, ele correu para dentro (inside/in the inside direction, rather than running within the inside of the house) e esperou com paciência por eu lhe fazer o jantar

Disse-lhe, "Não sou o seu escravo, Sr.," e lhe preparei uma tigela de comida de cão, de que ele começou a comer antes que eu acabasse de falar.

Hm, not bad this one.

"alegremente" was new to me, I had to look that up, because I was tempted to use "felizmente" but that's really more like "thankfully"

>>215676880
I think I understand perfectly
>Aim so tard ov bi hil
>Su prest ba io mai ciaiel dis firs
>And if iu af tu lif
>Ai uisc' dat iu giast lif
>Cos ior presen stil lingers hir
>And it un liv mi alon
>Dis un sin tu il
>Dis pen is gias tu uil
>Del gias so masc' de taim chenod ireis
>Uen iu craid ai uaip auei ol ior tirs
>Ai eld ior an tru ol dis irs
>Iu stil eho ohov mi a i a

>>215675598
i understand that's a fixed construction, but how did THAT of all possible ways to say that make it to standard? i couldn't imagine a more clunky way to do that in any language it's so giga ugly

>>215678889
Lmao

>>215678307
Spasibo

thread go up

I'm kind of sceptical about the usefulness of AI but for language learning and pasting sentences there for immediate analysis while you read your source material it's pretty damn good

>>215682045
if there's one thing language models should be useful for you would hope it would be languages

>>215682045
Heh that's exactly what I do

上げ

I only understand like 20% of inpoot

>>215603559 (OP)
Diaspora learning armenian, what are the best resources

>How to choose a language? Which languages to learn?
1. Native language, parents' language
2. International language
3. Language of an important neighbour or partner of your country
4. Culturally important or interesting language
5. A language similar to your native language or just easy to learn
So for an American, it will be something like that:
>English, Spanish
>English, power gap, French, Spanish
>English, French, Spanish, Arab, Chinese
>British English, French, Japanese, Italian maybe
>British English, Dutch, Italian, French, Swedish
For a Pole
>Polish
>English, power gap, French, Spanish
>German, power gap, French, power gap, rest of the EU + English + Russian
>English, German, French, Italian, Spanish, Russian
>Czech, Italian, Croatian, Russian, Spanish etc.

i'm annoyed that google did away with region-specific URLs. using google.co.jp for typing in japanese and finding learning material was my method for years.
yes I know I can change my language preferences but that's a pain in the ass and I don't want to do it for my regular uses. it was much nicer having a jp specific tab or something

>>215688177
you can probably do that with a firefox container tab

>>215688799
i didn't even know that was a thing. thanks anon

I want to point out a fact to all language learners

Use music, listen to songs. They are repetitive, easy to learn.

>>215689401
People always say this but I think it's kind of bullshit because music makes it too hard to hear what the lyrics are, and a lot of the time they're using weird words or phrases that would sound super weird in a normal conversation.

>>215689401
Oh and also most songs are only about 4 minutes long, that isn't much unless you really listen to a lot of music

>>215687867
learn more basic vocab and grammar
you have to ankigoon before you get to the peppa pig

>>215682045
I use it for defining online slang but it's iffy at best

>>215682045
AI can't into dialects, a person who speaks a language can have an understanding of dialects

Uyghur be like:
ok this is the Arabic-based alphabet that we currently use and was invented in 1982
we are going to call it "kona yeziq" which means old alphabet

ok this is the Latin alphabet that we used from 1965 to 1982 and is no longer official or used anywhere and was based off Soviet latinisation and pinyin
we are going to call it the “yengi yeziq" which means new alphabet

???????

>>215690059
back to /balt/ schizo

>>215689515
if you're just passively listening to music it's not very effective, but if you're actively learning and memorizing the lyrics its a pretty good way of acquiring vocab. vocab learned from songs tend to stick, especially if its emotionally charged music that you enjoy.

>page 10
unbereevaber
bump

>Spanish subjunctive
What's the good approach? I've only began and it seems like it should have a textbook of its own ffs. I learned basic grammar and some words so i can understand people's bios on interpals and wherever people 'exchange' languages online. But subjunctive is intimidating af.

Btw, this vid is massively helpful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWB0qBv1g2U
Wish there were more vids like that for specifics or every other language

There is a difference between the nouns दादी (matern) and नानी(patern side) but Duolingo does not elaborates if you must translate it to be matern or patern since English does not concern on stablish to different noun to this concept.

This language supports the patriarchy in a bad way

Continuum participle :

रहा = male singular
रहे = male plural
रहे = male honorific
रहे = gender neutral plural
रही = female singular
रही = female plural
रही = female honorific
रही = female coloquial

easy
>facile

My dog is big.
>Mon chien est grand

He likes to go for walks.
>Il aiem aller pour marchers?

His favorite place is the park.
>il place prefere est le parc

mediem
>moyen

At the park, he runs around sniffing the grass.
>Au parc, il coure ....idk the rest

I wonder what he's looking for?
>je"wonder" qu'est-ce que cherche-il pour?


When he sees another dog, he starts to wag his tail happily.
>Quand il vois un autre chien, il connence...idk the rest am so sry :(

>>215694248
मेरा कूत्ता बढ़ा है।

>>215637367
What app is that anon?

Big word

Everybody now assumes I'm fluent in German but I still can't read even a bit of it.

>>215695721
Reading it is the easiest part. What's the trouble there?

>>215695796
I don't know the words dude. They look alien. It's not like that in French or Spanish.

>>215695796
reading "ch" as some kind of weird breathing sound and not a "k" sound is brutal

i picked up playing the guitar alongside language learning. employing the input method there too. that's to say, i listen to a lot of guitar music and will do so for another 1200-ish hours before i start outputting, so i won't mess up my playing in an early stage.

>>215695927
that sound exists in both languages of your country, it's not that strange

>>215695963
It doesn't exist in English though.

>>215695963
I thought it was only in Scottish accent English or something. but I had no idea it was in French

>>215695986
it does. in a couple words. the most prominent example is "human," which is commonly pronounced /ˈçju̟mən/

>>215695998
in french it exists in many varieties of the french spoken in france, including parisian. i don't speak french myself, but an example that comes to mind is the word "petit"
check the pronunciations in this wiktionary article, quite some of them feature it
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/petit?useskin=vector#French

>>215696005
Think that's the same as the Swedish sj sound, except sharper. Sj is less constricted.

>>215696076
i think they are quite similar, yeah, but definitely not the same. i think nothing is *quite* like the swedish one kek

>>215696094
Swedish one is kinda like if you try to imitate howling wind, though that might be a shitty explanation. Just slightly constricted at the back.

>>215695986
Exists in russian as "х" the poor thing that get transliterrated into "kh"...
>>215696076
>>215696094
German sound
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_velar_fricative
Swedish sound
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sj-sound
Reference chart
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA_consonant_chart_with_audio

>>215696022
ahh interesting, I can hear it

>>215696199
even better: the sound occurs unambiguously in the exact same instances where russian does something else peculiar: it's whenever г meets к, like in the words мягкий and лёгкий. here, г becomes [ç~xʲ], and the vowels become all funky and sound like ä and ö respectively.
https://forvo.com/word/%D0%BC%D1%8F%D0%B3%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9/#ru
https://forvo.com/word/%D0%BB%D1%91%D0%B3%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9/#ru
very interesting stuff

>>215693737
>I learned basic grammar and some words
I think that's too advanced for a beginner. I recommend learning more vocabulary and the verbs in infinitive(green) first . Then the most basic form of present, past and future (red circles). Then the blue circles, and the rest after. Don't even learn the ones crossed, almost no one uses them.

If you still want to brute force subjunctive maybe try translating these examples until you get them right
https://www.ejemplos.co/ejemplos-del-modo-subjuntivo/
I used deepL to translate them into English and it was pretty accurate imo

I'm not a Spanish teacher so take this with a grain of salt.

>>215696770
btw, how frequently used are the individual subjunctive tenses? are they really all in use? because i have rarely encountered them in writing yet

>>215695013
Compact script thoughbeit

they are so creative with coming up with ways to spell russian in latin, assuming this reads дpyгoe нaлeвo

>>215691616
Sure, I believe that, but how many songs do you have to study before you learn enough vocab?
This has "set your phone to your TL" energy.

>>215696828
Not 100% sure but
Presente: really common
Pretérito imperfecto: common
Pretérito pluscuamperfecto: common
Pretérito perfecto: rare
Futuro imperfecto: really really rare (fuck. I circled it by mistake over pretérito imperfecto)
Futuro perfecto: literally no one uses it

>>215699148
i actually did the math once and I believe it's around 200 songs until youve encountered most of the high frequency words

>>215700016
I have trouble even finding 10 songs that I like in my TL, but I realize that that issue is on my end.

>>215699148
>"set your phone to your TL" energy
That works too though

>>215701728
Well it depends how much you use your phone. If you use a lot of apps that automatically change the language based on your phone's setting, and you're the type of person to spend a lot of time on those apps then sure, that's definitely viable.
I don't use my phone much at all, except for listening to podcasts but those can be in any language regardless of the phone's setting.

>>215702732
Change it on the computer too

>>215695927
That is not brutal and also exists in a shitload of languages

Germans should just get rid of the Ü and consistently use Y for the same phoneme, which they already do in words derived from Greek, like Pyramide. Then they can use the ü key on the keyboard for something actually useful.

>but what about words like Yacht and Yoga where ze Y makes ze "J" sound in German?
Easy, just write those as Jacht and Joga.

>but what about ze tradition?
That argument was thrown out of the window when Germans permitted their government to go through with its language reforms 20+ years ago.

>>215704850
What about the other umlauts?

>>215704868
ä and ö are actually useful, there is no other character in German to write those sounds.
Ü on the other hand is superfluous because we already have Y.

>>215704850
Mynchen
>>215704962
Ä is just e, you can't convince me otherwise.

>>215704962
Actually, there are two useless letters that can be repurposed for ä and ö: q and x.
Q is only used with Qu and can be replaced with kw in most cases
X can be replaced with ks or cks

>>215705015
In gutbyrgerlichen Fyrstenhäusern ybernachten um jyngliche Mynchnerinnen zu verfyhren

Honestly I do hear most Germans pronouncing E and Ä differently, but they have their roles reversed from how they're described in textbooks. They pronounce Erdbeere as Ärdbääre and Anhänger as Anhenger.

>>215705428
>Fyrstenhäusern
Fyrstenhqusern

saved from page 10

Time for the daily session. Everyone posting here does a daily session, right?

>>215708098
>he's not immersing fulltime

>>215708098
At the very least I listen to the radio

>>215675598
Ich sollte Sterntau-Tal auf Französisch spielen. Vor einigen Jahren habe ich das auf Deutsch getan. Meiner Meinung nach ist es eines der besten Spiele was Sprachenlernen angeht. Schwer zu übertreffen in diesem Bereich. Die Pokemon-Reihe fällt mir ein aber ansonsten nichts anderes.

Good news my fellow Duochads

How do i into palatalized consonants?

>>215715611
I don't understand the lore behind this nigga. He has zero game, yet he knocked up a bitch at least once?

>>215715626
tongue position makes it happen

>>215715626
think of a "nya" type sound instead of "na", but the "y" is more merged with the "n"

page nine

what's up my fellow fake polyglots