Thread 215701037

USA is proposing building a triumphal arch across from the Lincoln Memorial of Washington D.C.
What's the obsession with Romans?
It's not even from their continent.
At least build some cool Aztec skull pyramid or something...

>>215701037 (OP)
because they were influenced by Roman political systems and honestly Roman architecture is just cool and interesting

America is returning to its white roots, Gomez
Its over for all nonwhites

>>215701087
>influenced by Roman political system
Kek. Why do normies still believe this
America is ifluenced by French enlightenment, not Romanz

>>215701122
>America is ifluenced by French enlightenment
You are close

>>215701104
If it wasn't for oil, you bedoin niggas would be Mongolia tier.

I will never forgive Araps for destroying Egypt, North African Latin, Persia, Ferticke Crescent, and so on.

Arab culture was so primitive their calendar is dumb as fuck and shifts by over a week every year. And now all Muslims around the world copy their stupid customs.
And the Arabic script. It's such a horrible writing system. Very tragic that it replaced Coptic and Aramaic scripts

>>215701037 (OP)
modern day roman republic, nakamara-kun

>>215701122
the US is older than france, chinaman-kun
>>215701190
you know that guy's not arab right? he's an indian working as a slave. well at least one of them is. one of the saudi flags claimed to be an african working as a slave, but either way every saudi flag is some slave worker and not a saudi

>>215701037 (OP)
they wanna be italians so bad it's crazy

>>215701327
What does Italy have to do with Rome

>>215701477
Romans are Italians

>>215701294
>the US is older than france
The French existed before France.

>>215701265
Bloated, ineffectual and ready to collapse?

>>215701327
>>215701629
>>215701477
no we don't also romans weren't eyetalian
all the romans got killed and the population of the italian penisula was replaced by north africans and turks, just like greece and troy and cartiage and egypt

>>215701738
you literally live in an American colony
>>215701664
and? the US is older then france, the US predates the french revolution. we actually refused to pay our war debts because we said we wouldn't pay a king, we would only pay a republic and then when the french revolution happened we said we owed the (now dead) king, not the republic

>>215701190
>I will never forgive Araps for destroying Egypt, North African Latin, Persia, Ferticke Crescent, and so on.
>Arab culture was so primitive their calendar is dumb as fuck and shifts by over a week every year. And now all Muslims around the world copy their stupid customs.
>And the Arabic script. It's such a horrible writing system. Very tragic that it replaced Coptic and Aramaic scripts
Incredibly based araplar hater

>>215701800
The French enlightenment happened before the revolution.

>>215701783
Republican Romans were spanish/italian, you don't want to be haploraped

>>215701783
so were the original americans after ww2

>>215701037 (OP)
When the United States was founded there weren't many republics around, so, like the French, they used the Roman Republic as a symbol of virtue. You can find fashes in the House of Representatives.

>>215701037 (OP)
We did that Arch things well before the Americans but only to copy the French at the time.

>>215701836
french is gay. we shot the bongs because they tried to take our canons we stole to do terrorism with
>>215701869
nope. there's zero genetic relationship between romans and modern eyetalians

>>215701908
we still have white people

>>215701037 (OP)
triumphal arches are present everywhere in the west, I don't see what's so bad about americans doing it

>>215701037 (OP)
>its another we built a triumphal arch but not after a military victory episode
Only napoleon did this shit right.

>>215702227
worst is it's made by retarded cultureless trumpist chuds who are basically copying this style like a cargo cult

it's gonna look like complete ass

>>215701294
>>215701800
>France
Franks as a tribe were first attested in the 3rd century AD.
Battle of Tours was in 732
West Francia split in 843
meanwhile your separatist shithole appeared on the map in 1776

>>215702299
This kek
It's gonna be another failure like the birthday parade.

>>215702321
>like the birthday parade
ah, don't remind me. I wish I forgot about it completely

>>215702306
he goes by the logic that the french state as it currently exists in much more recent than the american government

it's just a gotcha, I don't think americans actually believe governments and constitutions entirely embody countries and that americans are an older people than the french

>>215702299
10 bucks trump is somewhere on the arc, my bet is washington on one side trump on the other.

>>215702176
cope, you were all replaced by mexicans and negroes
everyone knows this

>>215702227
>>215702299
it's to celebrate kicking the bongolians out, tranny
>>215702306
cool, france was founded after the US and germany was founded in like 1949, you tranny

>>215702385
we through off or monarch before you fags did
>>215702393
would be meg based
>>215702398
you are thinking of Rome and naples

>>215702385
>I don't think americans actually believe governments and constitutions entirely embody countries
They actually do. Think about it. What’s an American? Julio Deshawn O’Hara is American because a piece of paper says so. There’s no notion of the American people beyond a bunch of Jewish paperwork. They genuinely don’t understand what makes countries like France proper nations and the French its own people.

>>215702483
nope

>>215702456
You don't build an arc to celebrate a victory 250 years later chud. Its for the victorious troops to march under not their larping distaint cousins.

>>215701294
France is 1225 years old

>>215702538
yup
>>215702485
half of all germans are of turkish descent and the other half are russian rape babies. the french soccer team is black and paris is famous for being algerian and african

>>215702722
nope

>>215702722
Acting retarded isn’t how you troll people, anon.

>>215702649
founded in 1958. even if you want to go with the the first french republic that was 1792
>>215702734
yup
>>215702738
what about losing back to back world wars?

>>215701190
Based

>>215702541
don't you mean their great great great great grandsons? I assume spain has no arcs because spain has never won a war

>>215702754
>founded in 1958. even if you want to go with the the first french republic that was 1792
Charlemagne founded France. governments are not the nation.

>>215702786
Charlemagne was already heir to the Kingdom of the Franks when he was born. He founded the HRE.

>>215702818
So it was founded by Pippin? That makes it even older by another 100 years methinks

>>215702786
>we WAZ Kangz en rolandz een sheeet

>>215702754
so france and french people didn't exist before 1792?
who was the sun king, and what country did he rule? what ethnicity was richelieu? descartes? du bellay? knight bayard?

>>215702891
see>>215702890

>>215702754
nope

>>215702783(You)
Bait but I'll bite, the reason I hate people doing arches wrongly is because there's one in Barcelona that was made for the Universal Exposition.

>>215702872
Its founding date is murky because the Franks were one of the tribes invading the Roman Empire. Their supposed first (tribal) king is Clovis, who led the invasion in the early 6th century.

>>215702891
he's retarded and has never ever picked up a book or been to a museum in his life. He reeks of /his/

Only arch americans need tbqh (designed by a Finn btw)

>>215702918
you're not actually believing this do you? descartes wasn't french then and it's basically antiquity

Its absolutely disappointing that Americans actually developed their own 100% unique architecture- Art Deco- only to abandon it and insist on Romelarp slop for government buildings. Big time fumble.

>>215703207
Art deco isn't particularly American, in fact it was very worldly

>>215701087
>they were influenced by Roman political systems
not influenced, they literally copied everything from them and eventually became the roman empire of our time.

>>215703477
The so called declination period of the Roman Empire lasted longer than the USA has existed.

>>215701294
>the US is older than france

>>215702786
>>215702818
>>215702872
>>215702992

>Carolingian
>HRE

This isn't the /his/ board but since you've mentioned it...

Was it concluded why did the comes (counts/earls), the marquises/margraves(?), the palace mayors (palatii maiores), the provincial bailiffs (reeves/aldermans) took the side of the Carolingians over the Merovingians?

What did the Carlomans promised the magnates & palace officeholders to do such a drastic turnaround?
Not the sanitized consensus. It's the political power assessment-based consensus that I want to be informed.

>>215702924
yup
>>215702927
>Universal Exposition
>mars not invited
spaniords in charge of naming

>>215703025
>t. ranny
>>215703116
the give her the dick guy? he's from pornhub

>>215703477
we don't have the double consulate thing and former presidents don't become governors
>>215703552
first republic was 1792.
Lafayette founded the US before he had a country

>>215703926
nope

>>215701037 (OP)
That's cool, I hope they do it.

>>215703978
nice goalpost moving attempt but france existed long before the revolution

>>215703999
ye
>>215704041
nope, that's why we refused to pay our revolutionary war debt

>>215701037 (OP)
When is Trump going to name himself as Son of Jupiter, make Capitolianism the official religion and make Classical Latin the official language of Tertia Roma (USA)?

>>215704007
So much for the national debt, we're wasting it on thirdie displays of cargo cult worship. I mean, of course Trump will put his face up there, that's why he's bothering with this plan in the first place

>>215704207
nuh uh

>>215703948
kek

>>215701037 (OP)
Cause Roma rules your bitch ass, while you were living in mud huts Romans were building the greatest civilization ever

>>215704371
better this than on ebt
>>215704507
ye

>>215704851
>better a plaster and plywood semicircle than feeding my fellow Americans
I am surrounded by idiots

>>215701037 (OP)
>nooo you cant build that we should use that money to feed and house illegal guatemalans!!!!
>do you know who else built monuments? HITLER!!!!!

>>215704851
nope

>>215701104
Vgh, our roman ancestors...

>>215705388
>poors
>American
pick uno
>>215705748
yup

>>215705905
Cincinnatus

>>215705910
nope

>>215703286
it originated from France and spread pretty much all across the world, but the American art deco skyscrapers were unique

>>215701037 (OP)
always funny seeing mutts larp as romans kek
you are not even european

>>215707356
romanians aren't yuros, you are mena

>>215701037 (OP)
whose triumph? which general is being given the triumphal parade? what american general was hailed imperator?
or is it just an arch

>>215701327
shut up lombard barbarian

>>215701037 (OP)
because all European law and the democratic system is based on roman law and democracy. also empires love to create a connection to some mystified ancient past of their people to justify oppression of their subjects as inferior people

>>215707477
ameritard go do smth about your disgusting government instead of shitting up this board with your christofascist views

>>215703477
They really didn't. They copied the larp and baseline law parts of the republic but the US system has nothing to do with the Roman one, its all based on Enlightenment shit.

56 percent Muttoids wewuzing, being copycats.
That arch would be built with fake wood.

>>215701664
lmao
prior to louis xiv france was composed of franks, gauls, burgundians, occitans, parisians, normans, bretons and basques. the frenchman is a newer concept than the windmill and the flush toilet, and a far newer concept than france

>>215707686
it will be built out of rebar and concrete and will stand unperishing for decades, chud

>>215701037 (OP)
you retards act like it hasnt been the ruling fashion of the elites to larp as romans for 2000+ years now
brits dressed up as romans too and we're descended from them
if anything it's being trad and shiieett

>>215707459
250th anniversary of the declaration
>>215707609
>>215707657
the US government isn't oppressing anyone you literal tranny

>>215707686
90% of your country is turkish and the other 10% is russian
maybe spend more time winning wars and less time crying about American buildings.
Invent AC

>>215707781
Lmao, no it wont.

>>215703477
Not really. The US doesn't have a system where candidates are forced to hold different administrative public offices and rise through the ranks to then be elected president for only 1 term every 10 years, in which they don't even govern fully because half of the time the other consul held fasces making it really a 6 month term, politicians also get a salary unlike roman ones.
The romans also had the biggest social program in history until the creation of the modern welfare state, giving free food and sometimes land to the poorest citizens, many politicians would also give massive public donations to the citizenry both in life and in death. They also created of massive free public infrastructure projects that would grant the people acces to clean water in the cities free of charge, or massive baths and gyms that were also free of use.
That all sounds very anti-american if you ask me.

>>215701037 (OP)
Because Americans are Europeans, and European civilization originates from Greece and Rome

>>215707866
thats not a triumph, not in the roman sense. triumphal arches commemorate military victories, conquests in particular. we haven't had any big ones recently. we could maybe build one posthumously for washington or zachary taylor or pershing or macarthur... but the romans didnt do posthumous triumphs

Our cunt was bvilt by roman larpers… were retvrning to tradition o algo

obsessed

>>215703477
lol
>>215701087
>because they were influenced by Roman political systems
Literally the entire western hemisphere and western Europe were influenced in some way by the former roman empire, starting with the alphabet.

>>215701037 (OP)
They will mess it up by using wood and cardboad also the mexicans will build it not americans

>>215701037 (OP)
If they had any taste they would do something cool for once and have it painted like the ancient romans did, instead of just plain white stone

>>215701037 (OP)
We are the new Rome. Also Rome got mutted even before they blanda upp’d with the Sabines. It was on the border between Latium and Etruria so there were plenty of influences and people coming from both sides.

>>215702227
and Franco :)

>>215708011
>pershing
Lol
>macarthur
Lmao even.

>>215703477
>Roman Empire of our time

Except they just bomb, kill droves of civilians and destroy places and don't even bother to build aqueducts, roads and theaters like the Romans did

Fascist states tend to use roman symbols

Greeks larped as Phoenecians, Romans larped as Greeks, America larps are Romans, this is just how it works. And it does kind of work. You at least partially become the former great power you desire to match. There are objectively a lot of similarities between America/Rome not just in our founding structure/aesthetics but even our history now.

>>215709293

.... America built the most incredible road system of our time though. At least be a little objective.

>>215701037 (OP)
why would they do that when we haven’t had a military triumph in 80 years?

>>215707439
>el goblino lecturing who's euro and who's not

>>215707609
>common law
>roman

>>215709378
>America built the most incredible road system of our time though
It didn't tho. A few highways mean nothing when the rest of the roadnetwork is patchy and crumbling.

>>215709415
The arch its for the friends we made along the way

>>215709415
Consolation prize for all the military losses in the past 80 years

>>215709545

>A few highways

You have 0 clue what you are talking about. We became car crazy because of how easy it was to get around on the interstate system.

>>215701037 (OP)
it amazes subhuman non whites like >>215701087 who can't distinguish between roman architecture and whatever concrete/pre-fab/cardboard shit mutts will put up

>>215709415
A victory for Israel is a victory for the US of A *eagle scream*

>NOOOOOOOO DON'T ASPIRE FOR BEAUTY AND GLORY
>BUILD ANOTHER SOUL CRUSHING BRUTALIST MONUMENT TO NIGGERS

why are marxies like this

>>215701037 (OP)
vgh… the fent arch

>>215707686
>That arch would be built with fake wood.
haha

>>215704207
sounds like you owe then
pay denbts.

>>215703060
>A city named after a French King but its most iconic landmark was designed by a Finn

St Louis is weird. Also, St Louis mentioned :)

>>215707686
>t. non-white turkmutt

>>215709434
>tf
>tp
average american is less mutted than you finngol

>>215701037 (OP)
Why are Japanese larping as China? Your entire existance is just bootleg Chinese culture. Go back to cram school, stupid Jap monkey.

>>215701037 (OP)
because they have no culture so they have to adopt others

>>215709968
>i-it's not highways, it's interstate superduper highways!!!
Ah yes. And you also have running water, an AC and cook on a grill. Nobody else has those.

Get fucking real.

>>215713979
Finns are actually not mutted enough, thanks for proving my point, ogro es americas

>>215710176
Building triumphal arch when you've not earned one is exactly what marxists would do.

What war is this celebrating, we win jack shit. Also the Lincoln Memorial's facing the wrong way

>>215714901
the war against woke

>>215714795
Say whatever you want about Soviets but you can't say that they didn't earn this

>>215707439

Drop the VPN HIVan.

>>215714795

>going from colonial backwater afterthought to the world's far and away superpower in 250 years

Is an obvious triumph you grumpy little nigger

>>215715216

>country literally implodes due to bankruptcy from building it

lmfao!

>>215701294
>the US is older than france, chinaman-kun
That is a very bold statement that

>>215701122
French copied and bastardized us.
Our political heritage comes from Cromwell English Civil War puritanism which took inspiration from the Book of Judges and the Roman Republic.

>>215715302
You sound awful lot like a marxist there...

>>215715355
No, that would be this PoS

>>215701037 (OP)
that's based
>>215702227
Napoleon built his after the victory at Austerlitz
>>215708902
>de la victoria
>not after a victory

>>215717749
>>215717685

you are one sour grapes little turd lmao

>>215701629
actually they are Finns

>>215701037 (OP)
Good. Sweden celebrated 500 years two years ago but the only thing we did was a little ceremony with the king, SAD!