Thread 215718802

>capital of california isn't los angeles
>nor is it san francisco
>nor is it san diego
>nor is it oakland
>nor is it san jose

>>215718802 (OP)
This is by design. Frequently in the American system less important cities/areas are made the capital because it allows you to build an administrative district without concerning yourself with any other interest group. Like if the capital of the US was New York, for example, the whole thing would be a shitshow and we wouldn't have things like the national mall or all of our government buildings in walking distance from one another.

>>215718802 (OP)
>>capital of canada isn't toronto
>>nor is it quebec
>>nor is it montreal
>>nor is it vancouver
>>nor is it edmonton

>>215718802 (OP)

In fully two-thirds of the United States, the state capital is not the state's largest city. This wise and correct practice has multiple positive aspect. First, it confuses and enrages people from certain other countries, Australia, places like those. Second, the intentional establishment of the capital outside of the big city is a check on the big city's cultural and economic power. There exists another important pole of power elsewhere-state power, and it ain't in New York City, Chicago, LA, etc (major exceptions include Atlanta and Phoenix).

The most adorable state capital is Montpelier, Vermont, which has a population of like 10,000 or something.

>>215718802 (OP)
sacramento was the 2nd biggest city at the time and it had facilities they could use for the capital
the largest city, san fran, was a rough port not suitable for government
san jose was a temporary capital but nobody liked it so they moved

Which random English town would be the capital of Britain, if it was like other Anglo countries?

Do people really think Oakland could be the capital

>capital of Florida isn't Miami
>nor is it Orlando
>nor is it Tampa
>nor is it Jacksonville
>nor is it Palm beach
>nor is it Disneyland

>>215718936

Interestingly, the capital does not have its own special "capital district", separate from the other states (or provinces, in this case). In terms of political geography, Ottawa is situated entirely within Ontario. That said, they have a few different types of county-level government, and in the Ottawa area, all local government is run entirely by the city-county municipality, with no other subdivisions above or below it. It is an "independent city", like some others within Ontario, but all are fully a part of Ontario, notwithstanding Ottawa's additional role as the national capital.

In other words, the national capital is not separated from the country's first-order administrative divisions, with its own special territory and local government. However, it is run locally as one of several "independent cities", this one just happens to run the whole country too.

>>215719099

I've always felt that plucky Bournemouth is equal to the task.

>>215718802 (OP)
That would be retarded

>>215719099
They'd build a new capital in the Midlands and name it Brittaniccester (pronounced "Brister")

>>215719099
Colchester was the original capital of Roman Britain, before London surpassed it

After the Anglo-Saxons established England, Winchester was their capital whilst London remained the largest and most well-connected city

Sacramento is better than most cities in the state, only problem is the interstate they put on the waterfront but liberals will probably demolish it in my lifetime.

Sacramento is SF without the rich people, LA without the wannabe spic gangsters, and san diego without the coast. It's also far away from oakland and does not get oakland's black people as stockton does.

>>215719099
probably some ton between londun and birmingham

>>215719104
Martinez used to be the capital and Martinez is a shithole.

>>215718802 (OP)
>capital of USA isn't New York
>nor is it san francisco
>nor is it Las Vegas

>>215719652
why should san francisco be the capital of anything

>>215719891
it's the capital of crime and homelessness

>>215720028
both of those go to oakland
oakland's homeless population is larger than it's public school population

>>215718802 (OP)
>the capital of Mexico's isnt peepee
>nor is it poopoo
>nor is it puupuu

>>215720070
>is a part of san francisco bay area

>>215720104
SF and Oakland are in different counties/fiefdoms that do not work with each other. Oakland isn't accountable to SF and vice versa. In this way, black people can steal all the want from SF and just drive home to Oakland who explicitly does not prosecute theft anymore because it is racist. And when SF picks up mentally unwell unhoused people, they place them on BART and send them to their new home under the MacArthur Maze.

So, these are two separate kingdoms in the same way it is anywhere else. King Lurie doesn't care what Queen Lee thinks, and does not need to.

>>215720230
do i look like i gaf about some past-its-prime mutt shitholes on the other side of the globe that much?

>>215718802 (OP)
Only shitholes make their biggest/most important city their capital

>>215718802 (OP)
Technically speaking the original capital for Alta California was San Diego in 1769 when it was the only city in the territory. Then it switched to Monterey and officially remained there for most of the Spanish and Mexican periods. Unofficially a few governors of Alta California governed from Santa Barbara, but the territorial senate always remained in Monterey. Sonoma served as provisional capital of the Republic of California for three weeks during the Mexican-American War until Monterey was captured. After that the capital moved to San Jose, then to Vallejo for a year, then to Benicia for a year, then finally to Sacramento. Vallejo and Benicia were chosen because State Senator Mariano Guadalupe Vallejo had founded both cities. The capital had to be moved to Sacramento because it was the only way to process all the land claims for the gold panning and later mining. It remains there because its a central enough location and no one wants to move to Stockton.

>>215720312
you are in a thread discussing such places
so, yes

>>215720230
Idc, the entire Bay Area is full of homosexuals who move to other parts of California and screw those places up too. The entire place should be turned into a parking lot and only Orange County residents deserve voting rights.

The other reason why Los Angeles isn't the capital is that the city was considered to be irrelevant for most of its history. It was founded in 1781 as a stopover point between Mission San Gabriel and Mission San Fernando. It was named El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles, Town of Our Lady Queen of the Angels. An asistencia sub-mission was built in 1784 but fell apart and had to be rebuilt in 1814. The main reason the settlement was irrelevant was that is was 14 miles inland from the nearest beach and about 20 miles inland from what would become its harbor.

Los Angeles only really becomes relevant after 1892 when oil was discovered under the city. Sustained growth began after 1913 with the completion of Mulholland's Los Angeles Aqueduct. Then Hollywood was built and everything else.

>>215718802 (OP)
>>215718936

>capital of canada isn't vancouver
>nor is it montreal
>nor is it calgary
>nor is it edmonton

>>215718802 (OP)
Capital cities are just a place for boring government employees to live. We like to keep them isolated from the important cities.

>>215718802 (OP)
>Sacramento
I also just know

>>215718802 (OP)
the only cool american city names are the spanish one, such as sacramento, san francisco, los angeles.

>>215718936
Lemme guess without googlin
New England or Newfoundland

>>215719430
Sacramento is a fucking shithole full of homeless people, last time I went there I saw someone sucking dick behind a popeyes, likely for drugs

>>215718802 (OP)
>capital of PA isnt philadelphia
>it isnt even allentown

>>215719346
>Brittaniccester (pronounced "Brister")
sovl

rangeban indogs

>>215723970
>nor Bethlehem
>nor York
Harrisburg, right?

>>215718802 (OP)
>>215719116
both tallahassee and sacramento were important cities in their time, things change, history change

>>215724374
history no change, only people change

>>215719652
it's jerusalem

>>215724523
history change, what was important will no longer be

>>215724374
tallahasee has good women at least

>>215718802 (OP)
>the capital of wales isn't rhyl
>nor is it ebbw vale
>nor is it merthyr tydfil
>nor is it ystradgynlais
>nor is it llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

I would like to visit San Fran one day but I feel like you need to be a richfag to even enjoy it otherwise deal with hordes of homeless. Only US states I've been to are Florida and Maryland to get to DC.

>>215720909
>The capital had to be moved to Sacramento because it was the only way to process all the land claims for the gold panning and later mining

I think the reason it was moved there was to get away from brown influence from Mexico and yellow influence from San Francisco. In Sacramento everyday could be white boy day.

>>215719652
It's Tel Aviv actually.

>>215723970
I only hear hate for Philly from anyone from Pennyslvannia.

>>215724753
rich or poor you walk by the same junkies

>>215724753
just don't park near golden gate or presidio, you will get your windows smashed

>>215724821
>walk
I thought Americans don't walk in California, rather it's just driving hell.

>>215724855
Homeless?

>>215724783
Nice rare VPN

>>215718802 (OP)
>capital of Buenos Aires province isn't Buenos Aires city

>>215724904
crime

>>215724944
Not a VPN.

>>215724776
The major Chinese migration didn't happen until after Sacramento was chosen as the capital. Even then there were Chinese all over California. Sonoma County was about 1/3 Chinese in about the 1880s before they all moved to San Francisco.

>>215724904
everyone drives in LA, no one drives in san francisco. the rest of the bay yes

>>215720167
It's more efficient to centralized everything in one big city, economies of scale and whatnot.

>>215724904
san francisco used to be very "walkable" (and quite beautiful). I don't know what it's like now, though.

>>215725017
Does San Francisco have a functioning metro system like DC? I quite liked it there when I went in 2012.

>>215725152
I've heard of its beauty but it's a shame crime and homeless have ruined it. Truly the downfall of the great american city.

>>215718802 (OP)
>Capital of Brazil isn't Brazilpolis

>>215724981
Whoa nice

>>215724981
I tried to build a race track in you are country in Workers & Resources: Soviet Republic but it didn't work thank you for reading my blog

>>215725218
never played it

>>215719240
Actually, Ottawa is part of something called the National Capital Region, which also includes a Quebec city called Gatineau. It's not quite an administrative district, but they're sometimes treated as the same city in federal politics.

>>215725188
what do you know about cable cars, dawg?

>>215718802 (OP)
that's intentional.
A lot of states and countries put their capitals in centralized locations outside of the major city so they won't be seen as favoring one specific city (see like australia or DC) or to generate industry in a new part of the country, see like south korea, egypt and brazil are all unsuccessfully trying to move their capital cities because they don't want the entire fucking country living in Seoul, Cairo and rio

>>215718873
NYC wasn't a major port when they did that. NYC was just small hat banking and philly was the main port, they offered to put the capital near virginia to get the southern state to pay off the nothern states debts and then NYC became THE major atlantic port in the early 1800s because they dug a canal that went from nyc to the great lakes which meant NYC has access to all the mid west cities

>>215718977
the fucked up thing though is that post renyalds v sims the scotus banned senate style legislatures for the states and said everything had to be pop based which means every state with a major city might as well only be the major city because none of the smaller towns or cities have any representation in the state government, see ny or chicago

>>215719027
>from certain other countries, Australia, places like those.
australia's capital is some random town in the middle of nowhere that no one lives in. it's like their 10th biggest city

>>215719104
oakland used to not be a shithole but LA and SD are way better ports because their harbors are much deeper. I think there are parts of the SF bay you could theoretically walk across without drowning

>>215719116
miami's only like 100 years old. Florida is like a fake state like cancoon mexico where we just terraformed all the swamps into vacation areas in the last 100 years

>>215719652
we tricked the southerners into paying off northern debt by giving them the capital. also DC is literally built on a swam. like it was literally a malaria infested garbage land before DC was built

>>215720104
they're on the opposite sides of the bay and they sent all the blacks to oakland
>>215720312
your entire country is famous for cleaning toilets to escape poland. your most famous person was french

>>215726339
still is

>>215720360
>that flag
>that post
buenos aries

>>215724783
everyone hates philly but PA is weird so like it has 2 major cities, philly and pittsburg and everyone else in the state is really republican and fucking hates both of those cities. philly is east coast and the rest of the state is like rust belt midwest

>>215724904
you can walk in SF, it's more like a yuro city
>>215725089
he removed the bongs from our nation

>>215726379
Always a US flag on these retarded posts. Yes, you FAS mongoloid, that's the joke

>>215726551
your president looks like the hobbit, you lost a war to sheep on an island you live and you are $20 billy in debt
don't call anyone else retarded, troon

>>215726290

It's a compromise that they hate. In my experience, Australians in particular find the whole notion of a regional capital which isn't also the largest city to be incomprehensible, despite their Canberra compromise. All five of the larger state capitals there are also at the same time the top five most populous cities in the country. And then little capital Hobart out in Tasmania is its own state's largest city, behind various Second Cities on the mainland.

>>215726600
>Shit I don't care about enthusiast
Tell mommy you need to go to the bathroom before you shit yourself

>>215726600

We are not in a position to criticize anyone else for being in debt, especially the very small amount that you just cited. Please don't embarass yourself.

>>215726661
trump is literally giving the argies money so they don't starve
>>215726658
the falklands are literally on your money, you gay retard
>>215726645
that's because there aren't many cities in Australia. Australia is like one of those small yuro countries stretched over a huge island with a desert in the middle

>>215723970
It must be Scranton, then

>>215726600
hey buddy don't go trashin my boy milei in here

>>215727405
why would I give healthcare to illegals?

>>215718936
Ottawa is nearly double the size of Quebec
>>215719099
Liverpool if the decision was made before Irish independence. Now, with the centre not pulled onto the west coast, probably Leeds, York or Derby.
>>215726186
Brasilia has existed for decades and Rio is smaller than Sao Paulo.