Thread 215773243

Ukrainian refugees speak finnish better than most Somalis and arabs who were born here

Somalis speak decent Finnish

>>215773243 (OP)
Ukies speak native tier eesti here for a long time. They even switched their names like we all did long ago. Some keep it for trad reasons. We have an option to have the name-name surnames.

>>215773243 (OP)
how come these guys assimilate but Ruskies act all uppity

>>215773628
I'm pretty sure that Russians assimilate well in Finland too.
The problem in your country is that you have bydlo who stayed after the dissolution of USSR.

>>215773666
why are poles such bydloids
they were supposed to be the civilized slavx folx

You're right, most ukie refugees here don't have much problem with integration.

Honorary ukro-finn.

>>215773695
Over half of our 100k "russian" population are just other finnic and ugric speaking people that immigrated here from the soviet union and then russia.

>>215773243 (OP)
how the fuck are arabs born in finland? arabia is like 3000km from finland

>>215774068
Jewish magic makes them born in Finland.

>>215773830
That's bullshit since the law of the Russian is that everyone is some kind of mutt. Yes, the ones who are 1/8 Ingrian Finnish(not other Finnic ethnic group except the Finnish Americans who moved to Karelia) could move here freely in the 90s but it's really absurd to think of them as anything but Russian since they act 100% Russian.

>sl*vs
>assimilating
Just because they say hello and goodbye in your native language means jack shit.
>5 years of hosting byeolorussian opposition
>they don't speak a single word of Lithuanian and threaten retarded separatism
>3 years of hosting Ukrainian refugees
>they go to r*ssian schools and are fully integrated with zigger culture
Just deport them like the shitskins they are

>>215773628
low IQ makes russians incapable of learning another language, it's a defining trait of fetal alcohol syndrome which most russian babies are born with, unfortunately

>>215773792
Probably because you live in a r*ssian region and speak r*ssian with them so you think they integrated lmao

>>215774209
>be in USSR
>unwillingly receive Russians and other nations of the USSR into your country
>finally free from USSR
>enter EUSSR
>unwillingly receive Ukrainians and other nations of the refugee states into your country

>>215774068
someone (You) decided to launch a war against Iraq

Well, if Ukrainians are so well assimilated to other eastern europe, we don't need to accept Ukrainian refugees here in Japan. three Ukrainians arrested this month but it seems we have to shut our mouth down about them because they are pathetic victims.

>>215774209
ones who go in baltic countries will never tell you that directly, but they choosed them just to not get bothered by learning any other language than russian

t. knower

>>215774344
Some of our retards in government are just as retarded like the "poles out pakis in" faggots in 1984 land. Rest assured measures are being taken due to popular demand and outrage, expect mass deportations of sl*vs and a ball clamp on visajeets in the following two years.

>>215773243 (OP)
No they don't. I haven't met a single ukrainian who could speak finnish while most somalians are fluent in finnish.
>>215773628
>>215774209
>Chihuahua barking
I hope you realize that you deserve everything that will happen to you in the future.
>>215774177
>since they act 100% Russian.
What does that even mean? Not committing rapes? Yea they do that unlike ukrainians

>>215774417
Not for long. If you have friends or relatives here tell them they have 9 months to pack their bags.

>>215774474
You proved my point, Russian. You have loyalty only to Russia.

>>215774516
they going to get their PR cards, and citizenship in 8 years and we both know it

why would anyone want to speak finnish

>>215774587
Only the doctors and IT's which is like 5%. The rest of you are getting a flight to donbass without a parachute.

>>215774607
Good luck trying to make it in Finland as anything but a junkie if you don't speak Finnish

>>215774550
You force your children to learn swedish and elect a swede who doesn't speak finnish to his children as president. I don't think russians are the ethnic group you should be concerned about

>>215773745
Poles are right though. If actually Ukraine is winning the war like leftists here say, they should go back to western non-warzone Ukraine at least. I don't get why they still stay here if Russia is occupying only small eastern part of their country.

>>215774607
It sounds interesting to me.

>>215774678
Ultranationalists aside would you go back to war thorn shithole even if the region is "safe"?

why does finland have somalis

>>215774361
we never launched wars against iraq
they launched wars against us all of which they lost

>>215774733
What a racist statement. They're not Somalis, they're Swedish.

>>215774733
Russia. It's always Russia. They activated their agents within the Finnish government when Soviet Union was collapsing and dumped 5000 Soviet Somalis on us.

>>215774739
Israel doesn't start wars, she finishes it!

>>215774733
A bid for Nordic sea supremacy

>>215774653
that's a temporary issue since virtually all finns will either be dead from old age or past their 60s in just a few decades

>>215774802
Well yeah but once this place is filled with just somalis and arabs there'll no longer be even any reason for them to live there.

>>215774802
Demographic dooming is a huge issue but I think is overblown and might end up like the overpopulation dooming in the 60's which just lead to the explosion of shitskin subhuman populations not Europeans

>>215774833
*live here

>>215774607
If you live somewhere, knowing language is a must. Anyone who voluntarily choose to learn Finnish in the adult age, is a brave person, because i'm terrified of that language.

>>215774724
If no Ukrainian wants to go back to Ukraine, Zelensky should surrender.

>>215774894
Your brazen /pol/shit aside point me a finger to a normalgoy who would willingly go back to a war thorn shithole. A chunk of your compatriots went away to not get droned so your point is moot.

>>215774833
then they'll move

>>215774860
i think you're retarded. i think that there is no historical precedent of people not breeding and aging. i think that until recently the median age for our people was in the 20s. i think that it's fucking over.

>>215774889
it's not a must. i can go anywhere i want and just speak english and i've been doing that already

>>215774988
Whatever sanjeet

>>215773666
Poland took in over 1.5 million Ukrainian refugees. If anything this reinforces the point. If these were 1.5 million Somalis taken in at such short notice, the country would've already collapsed.

>>215774988
as a tourist, yes, but try to find any job without a language, not to say build a career and stable life

>>215775057
No knowledge of language here means toilet cleaning, retail and construction. Concerning the r*ssian question they know it well enough for work but refuse to speak it outside it.

>>215773243 (OP)
Remember this from the start of the war when I was studying and had to take the pleb bus:
>Ukrainian refugee; already owns a bus card, clearly one bought using own money. No fuss, and thanks the bus driver.
>Every single day Arabs and Africans try to get on bus for free, claim they have government gibs card but forgot it, start bickering with driver for 10 minutes, start screaming and claiming racism... I get to uni late.

>>215775008
do you realize that demographic collapse caused by an aging population cannot be reversed the same way demographic collapse caused by massive death can? just think about it for a second. you can loss half of your population, it's fine if everyone is 20 and can pump 8 kids per couple when it's needed. but what do you do when the average person is in his 60s, that the average keeps going up, and that the percentage of breeding age people keep diminishing? your group will inevitably dwindle down to ridiculously low numbers. good luck defending yourself from russia or greedy megacorps who want to turn your country into a trading zone or 10 billion young foreigners who want to take some of your shit then, unless you're some kind of ultra rich group. you're all wasting your time complaining about irrelevant shit when it's clear from the data the future for many groups in europe is to at best be absorbed by other larger european groups or at worse (current scenario) to eventually be replaced by non-whites.

>>215775021
wholesome and integration pilled

>>215775057
i'm an engineer and work as a contractor in automation (used to work for siemens before) and never had to talk the native language.i've been to nearly every single european country, you'll always find someone who speaks english.

>>215775011
about a half of population of Romania is gypsies but it isn't collapsed yet. It means gypsies are the best immigrants?

>>215775166
you have to go home sanjeet. The solution to that problem is not importing savages who will just make prices for everything go up, while reducing wages. Replacing said aging populations with 75IQ retards is not a legitimate solution.

>>215775166
I won't read your seething cry baby shit I am a staunch believer technology will take care of it and technocracy should be the norm on this continent. Why import streetshitting subhumans if the toilets clean themselves or the food delivers itself?

>>215775209
the concept of integration is even more cucked than its opposite. you're glad that he wants to mix with you and taint your group and would get mad over economic opportunists who only come here because of circumstances but stay among themselves, don't interact with the natives, and would immediatly leave if they could.

>>215775241
I thought Nippons were supposed to be intelligent... I'm not talking about total immigrant population. I'm talking about immigration over time. If it was just about numbers the results would be the same regardless if they were Ukrainians or Somalis, you fucking spastic.

>>215774739
as the brainworm, you are responsible for your amerigolems actions

>>215775249
i never said that solution to that problem was important savages. this is just common delirium from your kind. whenever birthrates are mentionned, you have to make a parallel to importations of non-whites, even if no one talked about it. because you are obsessed with it. nobody talked about solutions or replacing or bringing low IQ retards, i just said that it's an issue no matter how much you cry about it, and you immediatly started talking about shitskins. if this isn't mental illness idk what is. one can acknowledge that it is indeed a huge problem without immediatly saying that we need to import non-whites.

>>215775287
nobody talked about importing shitskins. literally nobody. moving the goalpost by mentionning immigration to avoid talking about a problem like that is more than cowardly, it's niggerdly. "my robots will fix those two more weeks". none of you will benefit from that even if it occurs, the corporations will be the owners and beneficiaries.

>>215775325
he's russian
>>215766595
>>215766623
>>215766743

>>215775325
Nobody cares about slavoslav refugees. You're so identical because only one poster with swedish flag are defending Ukrainian refugees so hard. You're not even posting in Sverigetråden because you're afraid of getting ignored or discriminated for being a refugee.

>>215775393
Spoken like a true streetshitting brown with a wall of text the size of your micropenis. Chill the fuck out sanjeet my nation survived astronomical genocide events, it will survive this one no prob.

>>215775436
So genuinely Why are russians like this?
We even have an russian immigrant in finland in this thread shitting on ukies lol.

>>215775474
Ask balkanoids living in G*rm-any. Same answer

>>215775350
you're the pajeet guestworker in france. If declining populations come up it instantly has a parallel to importing shitskins, because you're the quintessential archetype of that problem.

>>215775021
If it isn't bait then that anon is taking up vital blood transfusions that could have been given to people who actually need it for medical problems, and iron overload is a risk of multiple blood transfusions in a short period.

>>215775474
russia's strongest patriots love russia and hate the west, but they prefer to live in the west and would never, ever, ever willingly go back to russia

>>215775469
>barely more than a line of text
>"wall of text"
what?
>it survived x and y in the past
i explained to you that the context is unprecedented because back then the median age for europeans was in the 20s and that it has never been this high and keeps rising. you somehow get mad anyways

>>215775293
>taint your group
Not "taint", why would you use that term for good immigrants who wanti integrate?
>economic opportunists who only come here because of circumstances but stay among themselves, don't interact with the natives, and would immediatly leave if they could.
This is far worse than integration, those economic opportunists who self-segregate and refuse to integrate are conteibute much less to Finnish society as a whole.

>>215774676
Sweden and Finland have deep historic and cultural ties, we are brothers. Russia is a large mass of rape mutts who want to subsume and annex your country to have another buffer in case of WW3.

>>215775500
that doesn't really make sense since the birth rates were already low and going down even during the 20th century when the foreign population was non-existent. or how the birth rates are still very low in european countries with no non-europeans. and i don't live in france, i'm just currently working there. and i'm not indian but if you want to think i am i don't really care. if you're trying to imply that the problem is financial, i can just inform you that many european countries give significant financial benefits to couples that have kids and that doesn't increase the birth rates of natives.

>>215775463
two posts defending ukies, one of which is a dig at brown immigrants, somehow makes me a ukrainian?
>>215775474
All diasporas are like this. Sasha in Serbia, the russian in Japan, every single diaspora jeet poster.

>>215774733
Because of the (((EU))). East Euro and MENA immigration wasn't cutting it as far as destabilizing society goes, so they started sending in the cream of the crop when it comes to human bioweapons, the most subhuman and violent of all Africans: somalis.

>>215775585
because they're racial and cultural foreigners. a cultural assimilation can never be full, and since culture is a direct manifestation of genes, changing the genetic makeup of a group will eventually lead to a degradation of the native culture.

how is it far worse than integration since at least this would eventually lead to them leaving without mixing and meddling with native groups.

>>215775645
It's not the cause of the low birth rates, it is the symptom. Or the excuse for flooding your country with party pooper indians or other brown horrors. Nor is finances the cause, but it does exacerbate the greater problem, and as Denmark showed with its new study; immigration does cause higher financial pressure on the working class.

Ukranians have been pretty great here.

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/halland/66-procent-av-ukrainarna-i-sverige-har-fatt-jobb-gatt-valdigt-snabbt

>>215775630
Do brothers steal others territory, rape and murder it's population, force them to change their religion and give them new slave names and send them to die in endless wars and then murder them for refusing to abandon their culture?
>During the reign of Christina, Queen of Sweden, a proclamation by the Fryksdal Hundred assembly in 1646 called for the killing and the burning of houses of all those Finns who did not want to learn Swedish.[4] Reading books written in Finnish led in some cases to imprisonment still in the 18th century.[5]


>deep historic and cultural ties
Strange way to put it but okay lol

>>215775630
Honestly, what is wrong with Swedes? Don't you have enough situational awareness to figure out he's a Russian in Finland?

>>215775767
That would be VPN fags though. I'm talking about actual diasporas living in the countries of the flags they're posting under.

*smoooooch*

>>215775823
i find it curious how it's the only thing you care about though. do you somehow realize that even if we didn't have non-whites coming here, plummeting birth rates would be disastrous for plenty of other reasons? or is immigration the only thing you can think about? answer truthfully i'm not judging you. the financial cost of immigrants is. we've also had these studies about the financial costs of each group and even though we have a lot more than denmark and spend a lot more on public ressources, it was like 3,7% of all public expanses, whereas retirements made up 26% of it. am i even talking to people? does your work? has it ever worked?

save rvssia ;_;

>>215775984
I don't though. But a costly aging population is not solved by adopting more financial burdens and making the middle class who has to pay for it all even more strained.

>>215775767
Cut the crap you blithering idiot I know you fags astroturf this board using a hairy cock on a steamdeck software to change flags and want to pass it off as some rusnigger operation. This isn't plebbit no one is obliged to be in a cock sucking, hugboxing circlejerk with each other. You turned bants to pro-HIV or Burger King not us.

>>215776057
your strawberry hole flashes pink when you're upset

>>215776055
do you see how mentally ill you are? i'm serious, i don't mean that as an insult to get at you, i think that you are brain damaged and cannot communicate properly. why do you keep mentionning importing non-whites? why? who are you having a conversation with? you're responding to someone that has never been said ITT. no one here ever said "hey we need to bring in non-white replacement workers because of low birth rates" you told yourself that in your head then replied to me instead of replying to yourself. you are insane.

>>215774417
ХPЮКOЛД - yкpaинeц изнaчaльнo гoвopящий нa pyccкoм, нo пoддepживaющий eгo cиcтeмaтичecкoe yгнeтeниe.

Always must shame. Alltid skämmas. Aina häpeä.

>>215776100
I am surprised you waste so much time and resources on places that don't matter rather than shitting up xitter and goybook. The workings and reasons of your folly escape my mind.

>>215776239
want to milk your boy teat with my rough man hands

>>215776341
As you wish but you better wear a maid suit

>>215775984
>plummeting birth rates would be disastrous for plenty of other reasons? or is immigration the only thing you can think about?
Not that anon, but we have different definitions of disaster. In my opinion it is a disaster to have a society built on free trade, open borders and other neoliberal ideas, because it leads to a permanent and growing underclass (after all unemployment literally has to stay at 10% for the system to even work), all the while demonizing and antagonizing that underclass constantly (to remind the middle classes to keep in line and keep paying most of their income in various taxes so they can keep their cars and house mortgages). Meanwhile the elites laugh about all this, having successfully distracted the masses from the fact that 0.1% of the population own all the means of production and every actual lever of political power (no, it literally doesn't matter who you vote for in any liberal democracy).

4chan admins, I plead you to delete this thread. It's served it's purpose and is delving into a particular type of autism.

>>215776383
runkat upp gubbkuken i bollnäs pm

>>215776406
They don't care since 2023

>>215776138
even IF you are not a jeet. This rationale has been used by many Western politicians over the past 30 years to justify mass immigration, particularly in the last decade. If it has been one of the most contentious issues in recent years, it’s hardly something that can simply be ignored. Are people expected to focus on narrow niche topics you learned in social justice class, or on the broader debates shaping society? You know, the ones that are taking place daily among the people ruling our goddammed countries and the cause for so much unrest.

>>215776383
Oh great. ung vänstern is here.

>>215773745
You can fuck off back to your shit country as well.

>>215776383
you sound like a faggot and should kill yourself.

>>215776536
>even if blablabla i've been mindbroken by previous encounters so now i can only see these previous encounters
Kek what a fucking faggot hahaha. At least you just admitted that you are indeed mentally ill and can't have a normal conversation with people. Kill yourself.

!!! HUGE HAPPENING !!!

low iq white refugees on welfare speak better finnish than low iq non-white refugees

LET`S IMPORT MORE !!!

why is Mikkaaa Criiiingggjaaaaloooorrrd like this?

>>215773345
What is this name switching nonsense?

>>215773243 (OP)
now you can go die in ukraine

>>215774653
Why would anyone want to live in Finland

>>215776683
You're a subhuman immigrant who thinks it’s off-limits to bring up a point of contention about the topic you brought up. The only reward you deserve is the Leopold II pedicure before being deported at the end of a rope.

>>215776920
Some like boring.

>>215773345
For a second I thought you were talking about bongs, then I remembered the thing about learning your language and remembered the Finn was talking about ukrainians....

>>215776593
>>215776683
Think further left if anything. You faggots can keep fighting your culture wars, obsessing about what you vote for, none of that shit will matter in the end.

>>215773830
>Over half of our 100k "russian" population are just other finnic and ugric speaking people that immigrated here
>>215774177
>That's bullshit

Majority of our Russians came from Karelia, ingria, etc. They once spoke like we did.

>>215776958
vill pilla ditt hål, mjölka din pojkspene med mina grova gubbnävar, dricka din pojkyoghurt

>>215776958
>the only two subhumans to reply to it start replying to ghosts one after the other
>i'm an immigrant because i noticed that and told him that he was insane
>he now starts getting uppity and shares his power tripping fantasies
Can only imagine how pathetic your life is retard.

>>215776820
We all switched names at one point. Surnames with two words in it have been localized.

>>215777039
it will matter because while i allow myself to waste my time talking to pariahs and losers here i also have a great job and a kid and plan to have more while you're all older than me and have no alternative to the hypothetical yapping you do all day here (and you fags don't even do it for fun, you do it because you're attention starved). suicide.

Lmao

>>215777121
I recognize your arrogant and aggressive posting style. As I recall you admitted to being brown before

>>215777121
>because while i allow myself to waste my time talking to pariahs and losers here i also have a great job and a kid and plan to have more
I'm going to assume you're not lying (because that would be really pathetic, lol) but we both know there's a good reason that you do waste your time here, which is that in the back of your mind you know that western society as it stands now is totally unsustainable. You know that on your way to your "great job" one day you might find your car on fire, your wife raped by niggers or your child beaten up and robbed, and that no matter what politician you vote for you can't change that. So you come here to escape reality and convince yourself that its just "losers" and "pariahs" saying this. Good luck with that.

>>215777057
You're an immigrant because you said as much, and you inevitably ended up with the smug mockery the average indian poster on this board would. It is only occam's razor to assume you're a likeminded subhuman. You can lash out as much as you like, but ultimately a flying monkey is all you will be to every single white face you will ever meet..

>>215776173
вoт вooбщe, ecли бы мы мoгли мeнять языки кaк micro sd кapтy в мoзгe, я бы пoeхaл нa кyбy и нa пepвoм пoпaвшeмcя pынкe пoмeнял C2 ypoвeнь pyccкoгo нa C2 ypoвeнь иcпaнcкoгo.

Mнe твoй язык ничeгo в жизни кpoмe пpoблeм нe дaл.

>>215779476
>Tвoй
Этo TBOЙ язык, мaня, ты нa нём гoвopишь, пишeшь и дyмaeшь. Дaжe нe бepя вo внимaниe caпиp-yopфa, пpocтo пo oпpeдeлeнию этo чacть идeнтичнocти.

All the Ukie refugees I've met here spoke german reasonably well to very well, after a few months to maybe 2 years of stay here. Not a single one wasn't at least fluent enough tonot communicate properly.
Why are mudslimes unable to do this?