Thread 215825817

But not Victoria 3.
Internationally speaking, of course.

same, didn't enjoy vic3 long enough to learn it
I don't know if i just had more patience to pick up complex mechanics when i was younger or if Vic 3 actually sucks

>>215825817 (OP)
Jobless Nigga

>>215825817 (OP)
somebody TEACH this /int/bro how to play victoria 3

>>215826739
Stop digging up the beach

>>215825817 (OP)
Never played it, in my country.

>>215826749
but it's the fastest way to get to you
my only crime is loving too much

>>215826739
build things people want to buy
pass liberal reforms because traditionalism cripples you.

>>215826803
>pass liberal reforms because traditionalism cripples you.
Specially if you play shitholes
Qajar Iran was pain in the ass
>>215826767
>but it's the fastest way to get to you
I'm not mouse I live on surface Σ(ಠ_ಠ)

>>215826803
can you help me with the mecha fiends in ninja gaiden 2 they're really starting to piss me off they

>>215826851
For the record I'm not the OP

>>215826465
I don't even know what it's going on. Everything is different.
>>215826730
If I'm jobless, then what are you when you replied?
>>215826739
>>215826767
Teach me.
>>215826803
>Play minor power
>Build that thing
>The entire economy crashes
>Some buildings like railways and universities are just money drains and generate no income
Now what???

>>215826886
>If I'm jobless, then what are you when you replied?
The it guy
I hate this place so fucking much

>>215826914
My condolences, Parsa.

>>215826928
⊂(•‿•⊂)*.

Is vic3 still shit or did they fix it?

>>215825817 (OP)
I've been playing since launch and I just got good like last week

Is it normal for these games to load so long

>>215826968
They fixed it so hard except for military, but it's fine.

>>215826968
Everything is changed.
If you want to trade you have to sign treaties or something with specific countries and they're always btichy about it. Warfare is still retarded.
I have no idea what's going on.
>>215826978
???
>>215826989
No but Swedes are incompetent so here we are.

I know how to play Vicky3, AMA

>>215827021
>If you want to trade you have to sign treaties or something with specific countries and they're always btichy about it
Only if your cunt is isolated

>>215827055
It's no longer like Vicky 2.
I'm confused.

>>215826968
it still needs a ton of work. Its playable now but there's still a lot to be desired.
Teleporting armies still haven't been fixed.

>>215827073
Bow it's kinda similar except for warfare. Who are you are playing with

>>215827070
I tried to play Lucca to have a minor power experience but nothing worked.

>>215827092
I've tried minor powers or less relevant states since big powers are both easy in terms of how many resources they have mod and overwhelming with their confusing problems at the start.

>>215827055
How do you play?

>>215827076
They dont teleport anymore byt they still ignore all enemy fleet if they are embarked and they dont have supply trains if they have a land connection to their HQ. Also a low supply still doesnt do much, russia can move one bazillion soldiers to Mexico and the USA cant do anything about it, and they will fight at full strength for months or even years even if the supply lines are choked

>>215827117
Start with Sardinia Piedmont unironically, it's small but they have a lot of natural resources and you need to use diplomacy to keep other italian countries happy, and even a bit of warfare when San Marco! Happens. The USA are cool too before hitting 1890, after that there is nothing to do

>>215827134
You just have to build construction sites and
>coal mines
>iron mines
>tool workshops
>sulfur mines
>paper factories (sulfite pump)
You also should put tariffs on goods you need to build so their price doesnt go up and the AI wont steal them from you.

Free trade sucks because the AI will rwze tens of thousands of goods from you, in my game with the USA they were importing like 15k engines and 20k steel from my USA market. This is fine in theory since I could keep up with production and pop growth but in reality you are cock blocked by the extreme lack of natural resources like rubber and oil (devs are retarded and dont play their game)

>>215827182
Also see this >>215826886
Every building I make even when considering my population and resources ends up as a money drain. Even when I upgrade its production methods. When I want to expand them the tooltip says it won't be profitable.
Trade center, universities, railway, electricity plants, and others are also just money drains.
What the hell is going on?

>>215827252
I set all my tariffs to zero and don't build anything except one of each manufacturing type and construction sector max

>>215827261
You are gonna need railways only when you are running out of infrastructure.
You also should check your market and see what goods are lacking in your market. Regarding construction, if you focus on the buildings needed to get more construction materials then this type of induatry autofeeds itself because you are spending money on tools etc bu you are producing those AND you are driving the price down so you can build more stuff.
The macrobuilder tells you what buildings will be profitable, if it's a consumer goods industry then above 1k it's worth to build imo.
If we are talking about heavy industry for building materials then you shoyld build those until the profits are 0 (break even)

>>215827315
Set your iron, coal, steel, glass tariffs to max. If you are not producing stuff like wood and cloth then set the tariffs to 0.
Imo subsidies for imports are not that useless whrn you have a serious shortage of goods and you are spending money directly to buying those goods. Otherwise they are just as useless as subsidies on exports.

>>215827376
Your export* tariffs to max

>>215827337
Is this some sort of info or chart on what chains of buildings feed each other and create a steady cycle of production and consumption?
Also, what are the profitable buildings regardless of population and resources? I remember you could just spam liquor factories in Vicky 2.

>>215827337
Also for the early tech, you got to beeline the condensing pump, water boilers and nitroglicerine because they will greatly boost your heavy mining industry. Steel tools and steel industry tech are aslo important. You need to research railways right before you are gonna run out of infrastructure (which sould be soon if yoy are ramping up construction capacity)

>>215827424
Check your government expenses and your construction sector's needs. The UI is probably the best part of Victoria 3 so you have all the informations there.
Dont worry about all the other bullding types until you deem your construction output sufficient

And before mass-switching to advanced production methods be sure to have at least a few industries producing the required goods.
For example before switching your 100 mines to nitroglycerine build 1-2 sulfur mines, 1-2 fertilizer plants and 1-2 explosive factories

>>215827424
>Also, what are the profitable buildings regardless of population and resources? I remember you could just spam liquor factories in Vicky 2.
It depends on your market. Clothes, groceries, furniture are all good stuff to improve your pop needs and life. At the beginning most of your population will be firt poor so they wont be able to afford luxury stuff, but by endgame even your laborers shoyld be able to afford a car.

>>215827484
>>215827544
https://chatgpt.com/s/t_68edffa8f9188191b3fa0930dc3a7fbd
I've gave your advice to chat gpt to make a sheet out of them or something so I can have it at hand. Is this good?

>>215828068
Kinda but dont be so autistic about it, you have to check what you need to do and build. The only thing you REALLY have to do is focusing on your construction sector early on. Also free trade wont wreck your economy, but it's still better to be able to tariff shit so protectionism is the best law imo, and ot's hiatorical too since free trade wasnt really a thing until Reagan in the 70s.

>>215828216
Cheers, Italia bro.
I'll try to crash Lucca's economy with no survivors following your guide.
Thanks for the help.

>>215827252
I thought free trade is OP. I always use Laissez-faire and Free Trade to build up my industry quickly. For example in my recent Kraków -> Poland I managed to pass Germany in GDP in like 15 years after formation thanks to mostly massive tools and later cars exports

>>215828216
Oh I forgot, you should really use the infrastructure and social mobility decrees. If you use them in smaller countries like piedmont or belgium they will really give you a boost.
Of course I mean tha if you are playing Sardinia-Piedmont you are only gonna use those decrees on the Piedmont region, not fucking Sardinia or Nizza, capeesh? And use the remaining authority to slap authoritarians and prop up lolbertarians.
Anotger tip, coubtries like S-P dont start with a healthcare law, which actually is VERY GOOD because if you research pharmaceutical early on (after you researcged all the important producyion trchs) you will be able to pass public healthcare with ease eince the religious will back it up.
Publich healthcare is the strongest institution you can have yogether with public education. The third most important institution is the organized police force, the local police force institution will boost the landholders and you dont want that.
In general dont be retarded and do what you need to do, dont be strict about thibgs. The only thing you REALLY have to do is boost construction as the first thing

>>215828373
Capiche.
One love, my brother.

>>215828361
Poland is small, by 1900 my USA had 2 billion GDP and 200 milliom pops and growing. When you reach this size the lack of oil and rubber will start to be annoying, and even your internal market will face shortages becaise the AI is too retarded to produce thing for itself.

In a few years my humongous construction sector bossted China's gdp by 50%, half of China GDP was owned by my pops. So you have to start a bit of imperialism and force as many countries as you can to give you investment rights because the AI wont really build enough

>>215828464
To be honest countries like USA are super easy mode, you don't have to do anything other than build construction sectors and materials to get to billions of GDP
And you can get massive population by just stacking - mortality and + birthrate modifiers, don't even need immigration

>>215827376
>>215827415
Okay I'll think about it

>>215828530
That's true for every single country. They all play the same, even cannibals from the kongo

I know how to play CK3 and EU4 but Vic3 and HOI4 are too complex for me.