Thread 215877165

>>215877165 (OP)
stop uploading my picture

Is it strange I went three months without getting banned? I usually average at less than a month.

Guys, how useful is Fusha/MSA in everyday life, like lets say that I, as a foreigner, try to use it in speaking, would it be really that funny/awkward? Some books say that for the Arabic people it's very strange if anyone speaks Fusha/MSA, but other books say that actually in case of foregners it's rather strange when they try to communicate in dialects, as if speaking Fusha was a default option expected from foreigners. Can anyone answer it?

يمكن ارجع انشر هنا. السرفر خرب من يوم خلوا صلاحيات عند واحد فلسطز. تخيل يمسح الرسايل لما نسب الله او ننشر ميم تزطيط صلعم كيك كسم فلسطين

>>215878418
It depends on where/who, as in where are you going to try speaking MSA or with who. Gulf countries are fine, they can speak and understand MSA. Rest of the middle east also understand MSA but they will answer you in dialect. Nafri apes can barely speak proper Arabic so they're a lost cause, your best bet is learning MSA and unfortunately live among them. For your question
> I, as a foreigner, try to use it in speaking, would it be really that funny/awkward?
no, you're a foreigner after all

>>215879902
Shukran! That basically answers all my questions.

>>215879972
No problem anon, where are you planning to go if you don't mind me asking? Or are you just learning it to talk with the shawarma guy

Is this a thing in general in various countries or just in little villages in Morocco?

>There’s a mosque at the center of each village in the High Atlas, and locals can spot and identify each village from a distance by locating its corresponding minaret. The mosques aren’t just used for the call to prayer; during our time in Amssakrou, there was an announcement from the mosque loudspeaker that the men would be gathering to harvest the walnuts at nine tomorrow morning, and if they did not want to participate in the harvest, they would have to pay a fine of 200 dirham. ($54.46)

>>215880018
I'm simply interested in the language itself. It's quite fascinating, I mean the way it works. Pure educational reasons. Also, I've read an English translation of Muqaddima and it blew my mind that someone wrote something like that in the XIV century. Truly a masterpiece of proto-sociology so it would be great to be able to read it, in like ten years, in original.

>>215880153
Arabic literature is really slept on. Both the creative and science works.
>It's quite fascinating, I mean the way it works.
I agree on that, it looks quite chaotic on the outside but it works. The only hard part is understanding moroccans and algerians, otherwise we more or less understand eachother and at worst, use the MSA word

>>215880103
أحا النفارقة عندهم dugnad ء

>>215880103
mosques used to be community centers back in the day but current rulers discouraged this by various ways.

>>215880842
I think the fact that Islam is a shitty religion have something to do with it. Plus industrialization and the grow of cities gave us places far more important and beneficial than mosques.

Mosque is a just a place where submissive machinists bend over in doggy style then act better than each other after the mass self-humiliation ritual (prayer).
>Ummm alhamdulillah about this act of submission we just did, but brother I have to amr bil ma'roof and tell you that, you need to work on your bend over brother! You need to show more ass to allah!

>>215881309
*masochists
Damn this auto suggestions bar. It ruined my joke.

>>215880153
> it blew my mind that someone wrote something like that in the XIV century
Me learning Roman soldiers were throwing around puns

Btw Yahool is a faggot

Imagine being something worse than a Pali. Being a half Pali half Ta'usi kek.

Pisslamic prayer sounds like a faggot prophet's idea of a joke. Seems Momo invented this bend over part after getting Zutted in the desert kek.

>>215881524
No homophobia in my general chud

>>215881539
Fine, but I ain't eating your ass bro.

>>215881580
>I ain't eating your a-ACK!
EAT IT NIGGA NOM NOM NOM

Ummmm milky Aisha milk

Average day for Egyptian conscripts: https://www.newarab.com/news/egypt-blast-kills-soldiers-military-base-amid-media-blackout

>>215881615
That's not what comes to my mind when gayness is the subject :3

Fuck, I guess I'm going to Kut to buy next season clothes -_-

>>215881786
LC Waikiki?

>>215881631
personally i think arabs should skip the pan arap colors on their flags and just have a flag with a white background and a huge pillar of smoke
it'd fit the diversity of the region so much better

>>215881803
Yeah

>>215881817
>Arabs
>Afghanistan
Never change muttbros. Maps are bad for you mmkay?

>>215881856
We got a shitton in erbil
They ok but I wanna see mango has in store next I go out to buy shi

>>215881865
>says the racially confused cuntoid that called themselves the "united arab republic" and larped about uniting the araps despite being racially being non arabs
if anything i think it's the egyptsies that have the racial inferiority complex or possibly imposter syndrome

>>215881947
>mango
Their clothes seem a bit bold. While brands like Waikiki seem casual but classy.

>>215881631
Is there any website where Egyptian kids may download government approved textbooks? I'm interested in history textbooks. For some reason I see "403 Forbidden" when I try to enter your Ministry of Education's website.

>>215882097
Bold?

>>215882158
This particular one? Not so much bald. But it's not something I would wear for a "formal" event, and by formal they mean something casual but presentable. This one is more like something I would wear to go hangout with friends. But in general, Mango tends to be a bit bold.

>>215882382
Nigga just get yourself a bespoke suit then. Ion wanna see another Arab nigga in them plastic bag looking suits that don’t fit anyway.

>>215881203
which religion do you think is not shitty?
>Plus industrialization and the grow of cities gave us places far more important and beneficial than mosques.
explain further

>>215882445
Nigga I ain't talking about suits. I'm talking about something like this.

>>215882577
if anything i think islam is fine
it was the retarded reactionary political movements of the 20th century that fuarked the middle east

>>215882577
>which religion do you think is not shitty?
Anyone
>explain further
Ok, so people in the past didn't have much going on in their lives. Go herd your goats in the morning, go the mosque, go have lunch at home, go the mosque, go have dinner, go the mosque, ect. But now you have much more activities and places to go than the old boring mosque. Cafe, restaurant, video games club, disco, bar, gentlemen clubs, ect ect.

>>215882722
>Cafe
they smoked too, didn't they?
>restaurant
they had feasts
>disco
they had dancing women
>bar
they had bars
>gentlemen clubs
idk what those are
so you get the video games point.
back in the day, they trained with swords, bows, and spears for war, crafted bows, hunted, dueled with poetry and snuck to meet their beloveds.
>Anyone
so all religions are not shitty except Islam? how so?
>>215882666
the eternal anglo fucked it up. and Arabs' stupidity for siding with them after seeing what happened to the Mughal Empire.

>>215882130
It would be weirder if it actually worked

>>215881995
0.1/10 you made me reply

>>215883113
and yet you reply because you know im right

>>215883015
come on there was no 'india' before the british raj
it was britian that simultaneously put the country under a single political authority and then gave them an identity on the premise of them having a common enemy
the opposite thing happened in india as it did with turkey
also i think it's a bit delusional to think that if britian never wouldve come around the whole arab world would still be united under the turks and there wouldnt have been the arab revolts
but that wasnt what i was talking about
the islamic world instead of embracing the modern world more kinda rejected it then doubled down and grew more dogmatic
which has never worked for any country ever but even the chinese did the same mistake though it took a different form
but outwardly it ended up in these retarded countries like egypt, iran, iraq, etc
i genuinely think a lot of the characteristics that we associate with islam or modern day sunniism today didnt really exist or existed to a lesser extent and was morphed through this search for identity that happened in the 20th century
actually india is a great example for this because you really didnt see the level of hatred between hindus/muslims under the mughals even though the rulers were muslims you didnt really see wars or repression on religious grounds
that developed much later when british ideas got infused into the country

hello my brown frens

>>215883594
Salão aleikum

>>215883772
walaikum salam
(is it right?)

>>215879902
>Nafri apes can barely speak proper Arabic
you literally just making shit up, to sound learned
people in the gulf are more confused about MSA than the people in Morocco
especially the Saudis that watch live MSA streams on tiktok, most of them always express confussion when we talk in MSA, instead of a gulf dialect.
While here we are forced from school to learn it and grew up on MSA cartoons for years.

>>215883812
Sim

>>215883867
eba!

سالون عليكم

>>215880103
Back in my grandparents village men would spend like one hour before after the Friday prayers near the mosque, not really trading or anything as a socialization ground where you basically meet the entire village at once especially if it's during summer and someone who lives abroad or far away in another city (you can't make up excuses for the mosque or excuses to not see people so it's a chance to meet others)
Often they bring huge plates of couscous but it's mostly kids who gather around these, adults usually meet later since they also hold weddings and funerals (not the burying but the whole ritual sit-down where people gather to read Quran and remember the person) during friday evenings later on
There's a reason why after the end of the protectorate and even during the protectorate authorities rushed to seize the monopoly over jumuah khutba, it's the ground zero of most revolts and civil unrest we've had on this land up until contemporary times. Even the rif protests started after Zefzafi stopped (? Or giving his speech after i dont remember) a khutba
Another place is the barber shops which is why they're all required to hang up royal emblems/portraits as a weird token of not being rebels since it's also ground for mouth to ear organization for grander things

>>215883594
why are brazilians so cruel and oppress the ummah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mal%C3%AA_revolt

>>215884102
the empire oppressed christian rebellions either
it's just politics

>>215883074
Ups, I thought they maybe have blocked other countries. An official website like that not working properly is a bit strange.

>>215884163
no it works
i tried it from my american ip and it was blocked
connected to egyptian vpn and the website loaded fine (but hilariously it's a pretty shit site and their youtube channel was still being shot in like 360p lol)

>>215884163
why you need them, just use these
https://archive.org/details/booksbylanguage_arabic
https://dlib.nyu.edu/aco/browse-by-category/

also you are too nice for a pole in /mena/, are you using VPN or a Migrant?

>>215884223
he's Sudanese diaspora but never learned his native tongue and has a funny identity crisis

>>215884223
Thanks.

And nope, I'm purely Polish (Sarmatian).

ويل لكل همزة لمزة الذي جمع مالا و عدده يحسب ان ماله اخلده

>>215883580
>come on there was no 'india' before the british raj
i did not mention India. there was the Mughal Empire.
the brits tricked the rulers in that area of the world to fight amongst themselves then came up on top. it was stupid of the arabs to think that the eternal anglo wouldn't betray them.
>also i think it's a bit delusional to think that if britian never wouldve come around the whole arab world would still be united under the turks and there wouldnt have been the arab revolts
it would've been a federation of some sort since empire titles are now expired.
>the islamic world instead of embracing the modern world more kinda rejected it then doubled down and grew more dogmatic
explain further.
britain supported the first king of saudi arabia and he had his army of "extremists" that won his throne for him.
he later backstabbed them when he had enough british power btw.
the west supported extremists from the get go to keep the region unstable.
>but outwardly it ended up in these retarded countries like egypt, iran, iraq,
all of them had western powers destabilizing them. nothing religion related.
>a lot of the characteristics that we associate with islam or modern day sunniism
which characteristics are those?
>india is a great example for this because you really didnt see the level of hatred between hindus/muslims under the mughals even though the rulers were muslims you didnt really see wars or repression on religious grounds
>that developed much later when british ideas got infused into the country
again, westerners supporting "extremists" to keep the region unstable to divide and conquer.
i call them "extremists" because they're not even taking their religious texts seriously.
it is explicitly forbidden to kill any muslim yet ISIS killed muslim civilians all the damn time.

خطيبهم الذي يخطب لهم ويدعو لهم يوم الجمعة كافرٌ يُقتل، ولا يُستتاب، وتحرم عليه زوجته، ولا يرث ولا يورث، وماله فيء للمسلمين... وأحكامه كلها أحكام الكفر، فإن تاب قبل أن يُعزل، إظهاراً للندم، ولم يكن أخذ دعوة القوم قُبلت توبته، وإن كان بعد العزل أو بشيء منعه لم تُقبل، ومن صلى وراءه خوفا أعاد الظهر أربعا، ثم لا يقيم إذا أمكنه الخروج، ولا عذر له بكثرة عيال ولا غيره

عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ قَالَ لَعَنَ اللَّهُ الْوَاشِمَاتِ وَالْمُوتَشِمَاتِ وَالْمُتَنَمِّصَاتِ وَالْمُتَفَلِّجَاتِ لِلْحُسْنِ الْمُغَيِّرَاتِ خَلْقَ اللَّهِ . فَبَلَغَ ذَلِكَ امْرَأَةً مِنْ بَنِى أَسَدٍ يُقَالُ لَهَا أُمُّ يَعْقُوبَ ، فَجَاءَتْ فَقَالَتْ إِنَّهُ بَلَغَنِي أَنَّكَ لَعَنْتَ كَيْتَ وَكَيْتَ . فَقَالَ وَمَا لِي لاَ أَلْعَنُ مَنْ لَعَنَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ – صلى الله عليه وسلم – وَمَنْ هُوَ فِى كِتَابِ اللَّهِ فَقَالَتْ لَقَدْ قَرَأْتُ مَا بَيْنَ اللَّوْحَيْنِ فَمَا وَجَدْتُ فِيهِ مَا تَقُولُ . قَالَ لَئِنْ كُنْتِ قَرَأْتِيهِ لَقَدْ وَجَدْتِيهِ ، أَمَا قَرَأْتِ ( وَمَا آتَاكُمُ الرَّسُولُ فَخُذُوهُ وَمَا نَهَاكُمْ عَنْهُ فَانْتَهُوا ) . قَالَتْ بَلَى . قَالَ فَإِنَّهُ قَدْ نَهَى عَنْهُ . قَالَتْ فَإِنِّي أَرَى أَهْلَكَ يَفْعَلُونَهُ . قَالَ فَاذْهَبِي فَانْظُرِي . فَذَهَبَتْ فَنَظَرَتْ فَلَمْ تَرَ مِنْ حَاجَتِهَا شَيْئًا ، فَقَالَ لَوْ كَانَتْ كَذَلِكَ مَا جَامَعَتْنَا) . وفي البخاري أن (أَسْمَاءَ قَالَتْ سَأَلَتِ امْرَأَةٌ النَّبِيَّ – صلى الله عليه وسلم – فَقَالَتْ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ إِنَّ ابْنَتِي أَصَابَتْهَا الْحَصْبَةُ ، فَامَّرَقَ شَعَرُهَا ، وَإِنِّي زَوَّجْتُهَا أَفَأَصِلُ فِيهِ فَقَالَ « لَعَنَ اللَّهُ الْوَاصِلَةَ وَالْمَوْصُولَةَ

يخرج رجل يقال له السفياني في عمق دمشق وعامة من يتبعه من كلب فيقتل حتى يبقر بطون النساء ويقتل الصبيان، فتجمع لهم قيس فيقتلها حتى لا يمنع ذنب تلعة، ويخرج رجل من أهل بيتي في الحرة فيبلغ السفياني فيبعث إليه جندا من جنده فيهزمهم، فيسير إليه السفياني بمن معه حتى إذا صار ببيداء من الأرض خسف بهم فلا ينجو منهم إلا المخبر عنهم
https://www.arabnews.com/node/2618966/middle-east

>>215885997
>>215885742
>>215885514
bros yapping

لا يظهر القائم حتى يكون أمور الصبيان وتضييع حقوق الرحمان ويتغنى بالقرآن بالتطريب والألحان فإذا قتلت ملوك بني العباس أولي العمى/ الغمار والالتباس أصحاب الرمي عن الأقواس بوجوه كالتراس وخربت البصرة، وظهرت العشرة، (هناك يقوم القائم من ولد الحسين). قال سلمان قلت وما العشرة يا أمير المؤمنين؟ قال منها: خروج الزنج وظهور الفتنة/ الفتن، ووقايع بالعراق، وفتن الآفاق، والزلازل العظيمة، مقعدة مقيمة، ويظهر الحندر والديلم بالعقيق والصيلم، وولاية القصاح بعقب الفم/ قم الجناح وظهور آيات مقتربات / مفتريات في النواحي والجنابات، وعمران الفسطاط بعين القرب والأقباط، ويخرج الحائك الطويل بأرض مصر والنيل،

قال سلمان فقلت: وما الحائك الطويل؟ قال: رجل صعلوك ليس من أبناء الملوك، تظهر له معادن الذهب، ويساعده العجم والعرب، ويأتي له من كل شئ حتى يلي الحسن/ الحسنا ويكون في زمانه العظائم والعجائب، وإذا سار بالعرب إلى الشام وداس بالبرذون أرحام السيل بين جيشه، وداس جبل الأردن واللكام، وطار الناس من غشيته، وطار السيل من جيشه، ووصل جبل القاعوس في جيشه، فيجري به بعض الأمور فيسرع الأسلاف ولا يهنيه طعام ولا شراب حتى يعاود بأيلون مصر وكثرة الآراء والظنون ولا تعجز العجوز، وشيد القصور وعمر جبل الملعون وبرقت برقة فردت واتصل الأشرار بين عين الشمس وحلوان، وسمع من الأشرار الاذان فصعقت صاعقة برقة وأخرى ببلخ والبرقة وقاتل الاعراب البوادي، وجرت السفياني خيله وجند الجنود وبند البنود، هناك

يأتيه أمر الله بغتة لغلبة الأوباش وتعيش المعاش، وتنتقص الأطراف ويكثر الاختلاف، وتخالفه طليعة بعين طرطوس وبقاصية أفريقية، هناك تقبل رايات مغربية أو مشرقية فأعلنوا الفتنة في البرية، يا لها من وقعات طاحنات من النبل والاكمات وقعات ذات رسون ومنابت اللون بعمران بني حام بالقمار الادغام وتأويل العين بالفسطاط من التربت من غير العرب والأقباط بأدبجة الديباج ونطحة النطاح بأحراث المقابر ودروس المعابر وتأديب المسكوب على السن المنصوب باقصاح رأس العلم والعمل في الحرب بغلبة بني الأصفر على الانعار وقع المقدار فما يغني الحذر. هناك تضطرب الشام وتنتصب الاعلام وتنتقص التمام وسد غصن الشجرة الملعونة الطاغية فهنالك ذل شامل وعقل ذاهل وختل قابل ونبل ناصل حتى تغلب الظلمة على النور وتبقى الأمور من أكثر الشرور، هنالك يقوم المهدي من ولد الحسين لا ابن مثله لا ابن، فيزيل الردى ويميت الفتن وتتدارس الركبتين (كذا) هناك يقضي لأهل الدين بالدين. قال سلمان ثم انضجع ووضع يده تحت رأسه يقول: شعار الرهبانية القناعة