Thread 215947150

>have more miles of navigable river than the rest of the world combined
>never invent the wheel
>get conquered and bodied

What use are wheels when you dont have draft animals to move them?

>>215947227
They had llamas and alpacas THOUGH

The wheel isnt that useful to be honest

It's not even that important for agriculture

>>215947150 (OP)
The advent of the gun was a major happening, though bows are fucking frightening too (watch the opening of The Revenant). Howitzer, Maxim, and Colt are very fearsome men. Gods will bow to them.

>>215947256
They also had bison, which are now also partly domesticated. That whole no animals thing is a cope.

>>215947227
They could have skipped that part and invented cars and trains

>>215947277
Based retard

>>215947150 (OP)
>Never invent the wheel

That's a fake news. They had wheels. Just no pack animal. A real insult is that they had the ability to work iron but never even attempted to at scale.

>>215947343
>A real insult is that they had the ability to work iron but never even attempted to at scale
What's even funnier is they had a copper age before the Old world then just sorta forgot about it and never advanced past cold hammered copper stuff kek

>>215947150 (OP)
heya heya heya heya

>>215947343
Even Africans (or at least Bantus) developed sophisticated metallurgy. Native North Americans were disappointments all around.

>>215947256
op's pic is not andean, retard

>>215947926
radiocarbondating proves its old but there's still debate if there were external influences

>>215947926
They actually had metallurgy. They just barely ever used it for more than ornaments and in very rare cases tools. Confounding really. The Aztec literally valued gold less than jade. They made a bunch of meme bronze and gold shit regularly.

>>215947150 (OP)
They had a pretty good thing going before white man came. They were perfectly content with what they had. The forests and the rivers were rich and full of non-polluted game, fish and edible plants. All of this for free, since they had no concept of money either. Sure, living like this doesn't encourage/nurture advances in technology, but still... I fucking envy them just for that "no concept of money" part alone. Almost makes me wanna trade with them, since I've come to hate money so much. It was a simple, relatively easy living on THEIR terms alone, and not somebody else's.

For of all sad words of tongue or pen, The saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

>>215948253
There were probably superior to your potatoheaded kind before RussGODs and Swedes civilized you

It was pathetic how they got conquered. Oh well.

>>215947926
They had a copper age and copper mines but it fizzled out by the time Europeans arrived. There's abandoned mines in places like Michigan left over from that era.

>>215948335
The powder powered rifle was kind of a hard thing to overcome. And during the early times they trusted the whites too much. Even taught them survival in the local wilderness.

>>215948284
they were superior to indians in every way

>>215948335
It'd be like us trying to fight off interstellar aliens during a zombie apocalypse. Of course they got fucked.

>>215948284
Bitch, we had Kalevala back in those days.

>>215948405
Ojibwes and Finnish-Americans have concluded that they're about the same.

>>215947150 (OP)
Have more miles of niggable river

>>215948393
They could have made every trade about getting more guns and knowledge but they prioritized drinking firewater instead. Look at what Japan did when the ships arrived, they industrialized REAL FAST

>>215948432
no, I'm saying literally every group ever, injuns, finns, ect were and are superior to dot indians

>>215948423
>WE HAD...
>a book
Every culture has mythology.

>>215948211
there's nothing confounding about it. you're just some nigger who thinks every human society will have the same preferences, ideas and impulses.
people like you make me sick quite frankly.

>>215948457
How the fuck were they supposed to pull off a Japan? They were a series of different tribes, not some sort of united force. You're schizo.

>>215948457
>they industrialized REAL FAST
they closed off trade for 300 years and only industrialized in the late 1800s when they were forced by the US

>>215948393
>And during the early times they trusted the whites too much
You’ve seen too many Disney movies. The early settlements of the 13 Colonies saw many long and protracted brutal wars between us and the chugs

>>215948500
Japan was also a collection of fueding warlords called Shogun.

I don't think they had to nationalize from sea to shining sea but the four civilized tribes should have teamed together and make a new nation state.

>>215948519
That close off strategy failed and they industrialized after. My point remains.

>>215948539
>the four civilized tribes should have teamed together and make a new nation state.

Wasn't this prevented by their own feuds, where some tribes started to ally themselves with the French, and some with the British? Obviously the major tribes never were the best of friends.

>>215948606
>Wasn't this prevented by their own feuds, where some tribes started to ally themselves with the French, and some with the British? Obviously the major tribes never were the best of friends.

Why ally with the white man over your own red skinned brothers? They let old world attitudes leave them defenseless against the wh*toid invasion.

>>215948539
Indians in North America alone comprise 57 different completely unrelated language families

Real life isn't like a video game, and in the real world there is no "level up" skill tree or some shit that our brain's nowadays are accustomed to. Our teaching of how a societies evolved has failed us. It's actually really fucking miraculous a lot of shit happened/was discovered in the Old World and managed to diffuse, and that the New World had their own shit. And vice versa. Their situations are not comparable

Also the Americas are gigantic and a lot of the people living in there were pretty different and never came into contact with another

>>215948639
Foolish pride makes you do stupid shit. What else is new?

>>215947150 (OP)
i do not condone mass immigration, but i'm still appalled by how quickly white nationalists turn the entire basis of their ideology from nativism into imperialism whenever they're talking about the colonization of the americas. like
>vae victis, bitch!
and all that.
it's so disingenuous… and characteristically jewish for some reason.

maybe the left was right. the (zionist) jews learned from the white man, not controlling the west or anything.

>>215947150 (OP)
>nooo you have to live in civilisation!
>you have to pay taxes and work for elites who hate you!
seriously, why am i supposed to hate these guys? they lived life as it was meant to be lived.

>>215948775
You aren't. The common stereotype was they were noble and honorable in their own ways; a worthy opponent or a valuable ally. It wasn't until white nationalism became the default for American conservative zoomer men when Trump started to shit on everyone's cerebral cortext that the hate started

>>215948865
Everyone who actually lived near chugs has had nothing but contempt for them for centuries, Pablo

>>215947150 (OP)
>euros annihilated the mongoloids with most ANE ancestry
lol
it’s too bad the northern injuns have just experienced full civilizational collapse that lead them to abandon their settled urban centers om contrast to southern american cousins. Still though they had no chance especially agaisnt eurasian diseases.
>>215948715
it’s a real blackpill

>>215948897
I guess that last sentence really resonated with you, huh?

I mean we've all read Last of the Mohicans, Hiawatha, etc, etc..well probably not you, but people who actually read shit lol.

>>215947420
Didn’t they not have much access to tin or something to make bronze
Copper is pretty useless by itself

>>215947150 (OP)
They had medicine wheels though

>>215948639
go back 2 reservation

>>215948960
>I mean we've all read Last of the Mohicans
You mean a literal work of fiction? Are you unironically from Reddit?

>>215948715
>>215948950
mass immigration is bad, colonialization is based

>>215948865
what's it like being a homosexual?

>>215948989
ster·e·o·type
/ˈsterēəˌtīp/
noun
1.a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing.

They never taught you what a "Stereotype" was in whatever country you bounced in from? You have to go back. The "Noble Savage" is a very common stereotype in Americana folklore.

>>215949006
immigration isn't bad, but some groups of people are

>>215949006
ultimately there is no difference no matter how much you want to argue semantics when the result is a new population uprooting the former and reducing them into submission or nonexistence

>>215948969
could be, there aren't any currently operating tin mines in the US and I think in the past they were in like the dakotas and alaska. doesn't bongistan have a super accessible tin mine?

>>215948462
>you're just some nigger who thinks every human society will have the same preferences, ideas and impulses.

Literally every other group decided to use metal en masse as soon as they figured it out. Even other natives like the Purepecha

>>215949033
>people
>>215949062
there is a difference. importing thidies is bad. conquering thirdies and taking shit shit is based

>>215948462
>Ancient Mexican Tony Robbins

>>215947256
Have you tried to move a cart over a mountain? Even the cannons used by the Spanish during the conquest of the Inca empire were smaller ones transported on soldier's backs or pack animals

>>215948423
>VGH, THE SAMPO...

>>215948284
The natives in Alaska wiped out an entire Russian settlement like 200 years ago and the Russians are STILL mad about it and want to reconquer Alaska to get back at them kek

>>215949106
I live in thw mountains and decided to bring a little wagon on one of my hikes like a fucking retard once. Just straight up left it after a half mile and came back in my sisters SUV to grab it later.

>>215948211
Love of gold is a fairly indo-aryan phenomena desu, that spread into India, Europe, the Middle-East via diffusion. Egyptians and the Chinese rarely coveted it if I recall correctly

>>215949211
>Love of gold is a fairly indo-aryan phenomena desu, that spread into India, Europe, the Middle-East via diffusion

I blame the Dutch

>>215949211
what did they use for money?

>>215949067
That's not what you were arguing, disingenuous kuck.

>>215949256
Wampums

>>215949106
>Even the cannons used by the Spanish during the conquest of the Inca empire were smaller ones transported on soldier's backs or pack animals
so why didn't the indians do that then?

>>215949311
I think you think me and the other burgerflag are the same person

No one has mentioned that the American Indian had absolutely no taste for work, even less than the negro. The colonists wrote about how the Indian could not be forced to work the land by any means, he would rather be killed.

People are acting like they got conquered or wiped out, that's not what happened at all. They just chose to always live on the frontier of the colonies. They could not find it in themselves to pick one piece of land and hunker down and isolate. They couldn't resist the urge to live right beside the colonies so they could raid and pillage and scalp and trade and interact, and they were willing to be pushed a little bit farther back over and over and over again until all the land was taken

HEYA HEYA HEYA HEYA

WANDEEEEERIIIIING ON HORIZON ROAAAAAAD

FOLLOWIIIIIIING THE TRAIL OF TEEEEAAAARS

ONCE

WE WERE HEEEEEEEERE

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>>215950556
based neet
>the injuns are too lazy to enslave

>>215947281
Just found out Howitzer is not a surname.

>>215950556
cant blame them for not wanting to break their back for the jews

>>215950643
To what extent work ethics are abused is actually an interesting question. Authors have to deal with publishers. Artists have to deal with galleries. The middleman always takes a cut. Without the middleman, you don't get anything. With how things are, after mass scale global events, and othet developmental historical events people are born into, the best they can do is just try to get along with the system. If you don't, other jackals are waiting to stab you in the back, and take your place as Goy King (or to become a Goy King, if you tried not to be that).

>>215950643
Sounds like a good way to go extinct.

>>215947256
>THOUGH

>>215950643
I kneel...

>>215950909
>If you don't, other jackals are waiting to stab you in the back, and take your place as Goy King (or to become a Goy King, if you tried not to be that).
There's a silverlining to this though. Stupidity is always profitable. Certain groups have the advantage over its use, but the everyday man, with some luck in circumstance, can slowly learn to also use Stupidity to his advantage. If people are unwilling to stop and think, and just want to be Stupid, then, eventually, you can say: "Good".

>>215950619
John Houfnice

>>215952440
Mario Pizza