Thread 216054884

what is your excuse for not having kids?

The less contact I have with humans the better.

>>216054884 (OP)
Look at that meat milkers

>>216054884 (OP)
I see people overseas living more comfortably than people working fulltime

>>216054884 (OP)
he can build a hut and live there, do this shit in europe and it's will be torn down by council in 0.5 seconds

also, european women would rather rent to death lofty apartment than live like this in their own

im incel

I make 80k a year and 70% of my income goes to rent and taxes

im ugly and poor

>>216054884 (OP)
The amount of unsuitable women in the country. Plus the law.

>>216054884 (OP)
this is the future of the world as only the poor and low IQ are having children

>>216055035
Lol TRVKE
I’m out, boomers and governments can rule the shitpile

>>216054947
she is a pornstar there is a video of her drinking milk from her boobs while fucking on xhamster

>>216056186
How the hell do people live like that

>>216054884 (OP)
how many dysgenic human waste children do you have?

>>216054884 (OP)
having kids is something stupids just do by accident. people who do it deliberately mostly wait till they're like 40

>>216054884 (OP)
I have no girlfriend, but also just find the whole process disturbing. Like you just have this baby growing inside a womans belly for nine months and she's just walking around going about her life with a giant belly with another person inside of it and then has to push it out of her vagina covered in slime.
The whole notion of gestation and birthing is some sort of alien horror.

>>216054884 (OP)
Brazil is a paradise

>>216054884 (OP)
If you produce a child in the third world it's functionally extra labor, you try to raise your kids for labor in the first world and society turns on you for 'child abuse'. Basically you need to let school and media do all of the parenting, otherwise your kid won't fit in with the others. A kid is a direct benefit for third worlders, but a glorified and expensive luxury pet in the first world. The fact that even this couple only has one kid and doesn't have their extended family running around tells me that even the third world has a high enough quality of life that they don't want to expand too far past their current means.

poor brown people are genuinely disgusting

>>216054884 (OP)
I only want to reproduce with a German chudette.

>>216056486
Yet people on xitter will unironically say "why won't white people have kids like in brown countries" as if the brown lifestyle is something to work towards.

>>216056296
What's her @

>>216056296
name?

>>216054884 (OP)
That's how the average brazilian lives. What a beautiful country.

>>216054884 (OP)
If I had a gf like that she'd be pregnant all the time

>>216055035
Meme. As an ukie you know that in Ukraine you can still self-build a house yet still you don't have many children

>>216054884 (OP)
I don't have a stable income and I refuse to live like your webm related, besides, my gf doesn't want to have kids right now or in the next 5 years

>>216056473
Or that they're being 'modernized'. They're as poor and shitty as ever, but now they get gay marriage and feminism. Best of all worlds.

>>216056768
This is why the Mexican birthrate has collapsed. You still are a bunch of beaners but now your women are le empowered sluts who don't want to just pop out kids for you. Man it sucks to be a beaner right now. At least in the past you could be pater familias and rule like a petty king in your hovel. Now you're a purse dog for some bimbo like a first world soiboi with his nintendo and his vasectomy

>>216054884 (OP)
this

>>216056738
i'm not in ukraine atm

Ukraine has different reasons to not have children and one of them IS A FUCKING 400 EURO WAGES, and other is their father can be kidnapped to the frontline to fight a war against never-ending horde of 21 century savages for a shithole donbass towns with 14000 pro-russian pensioners living there

i'd feel safer living on a volcano than in ukraine

>>216054884 (OP)
I am poor + I am a population collapse enthusiast.

>>216057601
There's a part in Malthus' population peak theory where he starts claiming things like 'damn wouldn't it be great if there was another black plague in a densely packed urban area, haha'.

>>216057469
>one of them IS A FUCKING 400 EURO WAGES
not a real reason, in Afghanistan they have 40 euro wages and still 8 kids per woman

living in Ireland you should already notice that it works the opposite way, the richer people are the less children they want

>, and other is their father can be kidnapped to the frontline
that's been a thing only since 2022 while Ukraine's demographic issues stem back to the 1990s

I see a lot of copes today. Why most dont have children is because women simply dont want to, they dont find most men attractive and worth the risk of suffering, i saw it happen irl, when she wants you and wants to secure your genes, she would do anything, puncture holes on preservatives, lie to you about their period, make you drunk, drug you and rape you, etc.

>>216056768
>She doesn't want kids
You're not attractive enough bro.

>>216056238
>Plus the law.
How does the law preclude your reproduction? Or are you thinking about the legal consequences of having kids you might later choose to abandon?

>>216054884 (OP)
I have two fine sons. I didn’t think I wanted kids, and was surprised to change my mind. I’m glad I did, but I would never pretend that it’s for everyone. If you’re not into it, or especially if you’re actively opposed to it, it’s a horrible idea. People who don’t want kids shouldn’t have kids.

>>216058009
I assume 'the law' being that she can then have him by the balls and if anything goes wrong take his kids and half his stuff

>>216054884 (OP)
Literally god punish me as the only incel in my country so there is not hope for me anymore though..

>>216058009
>people who don't want kids shouldn't have kids
Agree, but there's no socially neutral take on it. I do think if men choose to have kids later in life, like 40-50 late, then overpopulation wouldn't threaten to ruin everyone's quality of life. You could have the conservatard natalist everyone is forced to breed society just by age gating.

Terrible women, feminist laws, socialist country
Just connect the dots

>>216056605
>>216056614
https://xhamster.com/videos/i-fuck-my-step-moms-busty-when-shes-in-the-house-xhnyk4b

>>216058241
>If you want others to have kids you have to be a conservative bro
Who is gonna pay for your pension or look after you when you're old and barely can do anything?

>>216058009
The law criminalises making babies with the women I'm actually attracted to

>>216054884 (OP)
they would be considered rich in india

>>216054884 (OP)
gorda

>>216058368
>Pensions
Just save money. What country has stable employment anymore? You act like old hermits are something that don't exist, neighbor's like 80 and lives alone. I'm sure someone will have kids if they want them, but it's clearly not needed with unemployment rising everywhere.

>>216058491
My man i know those 80 y.o hermits, they live a dignified life, but they suffer a lot. Being alone when you can barely do crap, Is really hard.

>>216058392
>The law criminalises making babies with the women I'm actually attracted to
If you’re talking about women who are legally still children, I don’t think it’s the childbearing that is specifically against the law. You’re just not allowed to sleep with them.

And I suppose I would add pedophiles to the list of people who shouldn’t have children. Even if they’re not a danger to their own kids, they’re a prospective threat to their children’s peers.

>And yeah I know there’s some distinction between adults who are sexually fixated on adolescents and those who are sexually obsessed with smaller kids, but I don’t care. Neither is a good candidate for parenthood.

>>216054884 (OP)
>what is your excuse for not having kids?
I'm not a sociopath.

>>216054884 (OP)
>let me bring a child into an impoverished childhood without any kind of capital required to lead an easy life in an increasingly competitive labour market

>>216056400
Sperg tier. (You) came into existence the same way.

>>216058355
thanks lol

>>216058355
sovl overload
always better than any studio porn

>>216054884 (OP)
because the ideal household is 2 working adults with no kids

>>216059675
>>216059086
its been in my favourites for years used to be on pornhub before the purge

>>216054884 (OP)
Sexo is the only entertainment for people who live like this

>>216054884 (OP)
i don't have a sister to knock up

>>216054884 (OP)
Making more thirdies should be a crime

>>216058241
>I do think if men choose to have kids later in life, like 40-50 late, then overpopulation wouldn't threaten to ruin everyone's quality of life.

The extent to which overpopulation is a real problem has been the subject of fierce and unresolved debate since the idea was first contemplated. Localized patterns like high fertility rates in some of the lowest-resource environments, and increasingly large populations of expensive geriatrics in areas with declining births are real things, and sometimes problematic, but there really isn’t a definitive answer as to whether the planet has, or ever will have, “too many people.” The best macrodemographic models suggest that the human population will probably peak around 10 billion and then decline, but whether that’s higher than the planet’s carrying capacity can’t be definitively answered. Depending on the variables you want to analyze, it may have been too many three millennia ago, or there is room for billions more. And of course the damage humanity wreaks upon the planet has as much to do with what people do as it does with how many we are.

Oh, and there are some negative correlations between paternal age and health outcomes for children (kids of older fathers experience higher rates of schizophrenia, leukemia and other blood cancers, maybe the dreaded autism, a few others), but nothing indisputable.

I personally think at least slightly older reproduction is a good idea, for both men and women, just because it usually allows for better-resourced families, and gives some couples more time to enjoy a childfree, dual-income lifestyle (my wife and I had been married for six years before we had kids, during which time we traveled, made money, bought a home, and grew out of most of our hedonistic impulses). But there limits to how late it can be safely pushed, obviously, and if a man with a younger woman waits too long, he’s going to miss out on active participation in a lot of his kids’ lives.

>>216060076
this!

>>216060125
yeah we should only produce firstie incel freaks like the ones in this board instead, way better service to the human race

>>216058355
>uk cuck law prevents me from watching
Yeesh

>>216061323
just download opera and click the build in vpn

My grandfather was a shitty father causing my father to be an even worse father causing me to become a horrible father, im planning to break the cycle and not fuck over my future kids by having them in the first place.

>>216054884 (OP)
I want the kid to have a good life, and not grow up in poverty like I did. I also don't want to have them grow up in the US, but that's more of a me issue at this point.

>>216061462
Then move

I have kids. I have a house and a mortgage too. I've basically sacrificed my entire previous life for this. My work days are in practice 13 hours long and when i get home it's straight to another 3-4 hours of house chores since both of us have to have full time jobs to afford this. Currently spending my few moments of me-time on blogposting like a retard. I don't have any regrets. But realistically this is what you have to look forward to for at least the first 5-10 years. I recommend living close to other family members

>>216060017
they have a computer.

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