Thread 216194993

Honestly though what is America going to do?

nothing lol

>>216194993 (OP)
I think those tariffs and investments will do work though.
When a country invests into something it does work in the end. China invested into chips and now they can make chips when america banned them.
China has now banned rare earth metals so now Americans are investing into those refinement processes and will probably become good at that.

Both countries are just drifting far away from each other. I hope the knowledge keeps getting distributed around the world though so we all benefit.

>>216194993 (OP)
Also china is the rival of the EU not the rival of america.
America has no rival only vassals.

>>216195040
>I hope the knowledge keeps getting distributed around the world though so we all benefit
Lol

>>216195054
>Also china is the rival of the EU
No, only America is scizophrenic enough to want to fight china. Europe enemy is the yankees and russian faggotry. China can do whatever the fuck they want lol

>>216195054
>nominal US dollar fiat financial system transaction total
Lol
Lmao even

>>216195068
Everyone just adapts. It doesn't mean anything. Germans will just learn how to move forward the same as americans do with refining rare earth metals from scratch.

>>216195092
Give me a better way to calculate wealth and I'll concede the point.

>>216195068
China really is just a front for Russia now isn't it. Prior to 2016 people were calling it a US colony, now that they sidelined the US for Russian oil the US is acting like they're being offshore balanced. The main issue with Germany isn't hurr magnets from ding dong Mongolia, it's Russian natural gas and oil potentially dominating their market that's why the US bombed Nordstream which would have been declared the largest terrorist attack in history if it was any other country involved.

>>216194993 (OP)
Real question, why are Americans so desperate about China? Do they think is gonna launch a nuclear attack on them o algo?

autists always win sorry psychobros

>>216195137
They think it's a rival but they have no rivals.

i would see the entire world burn before a bunch of insects usurp US dominance
total
world
death

>>216195137
They invested a ton into China and sent over industrialists to develop it in the 90s and 2000s. Then Russia broke off from global finance and started throwing around its resources to tip the balance of geopolitics, once the US figured out it was a threat to the petrodollar they're trying to lock everything down. Russia also doesn't want the US to have influence in China because if the US gets too close they're fucked, because the US military is extremely scary if they're allowed to get too close.

CCP thread

>>216194993 (OP)
Cook our food in canola oil instead of sewage?

>>216195094
>Germans will just learn how to move forward the same as americans do
Germany can’t even move forward from using coal based power

>>216195092
Ahh, I was looking for this image somewhere. Saved

>>216194993 (OP)
we could easily deal with china, the issue is that everyone making decisions is in the pocket of israeli banking and business interests and those interests are making more money off of china's slave labor. China does not have unrestricted access to the ocean. if countries wanted to they could cripple the shit out of chinese trade with tariffs. Most countries are sick of china's shit, btw. Trump intentionally shat up the WTO over the chinese trade shit in 2019 and no one's even attempted to fix it and only like fucking iran and egypt have attempted to make a new WTO

>>216195137
America is successful because of its "ideology", that is their sacred cow that democracy specifically American-type democracy produces wealth and safety for a nation and nothing ever comes close to it. If China becomes stronger and richer it means you don't need democracy anymore. The entire EU is just theatrics to prove in a cringe way that the US style politics works because if a bunch of countries that used to wage war against each other can get along then democracy must be amazing. The US hegemony rests on several pillars: their army, their currency, their ethical/cultural superiority. If you take one out their empire crumbles. Should China be successful not only is their ethical high ground gone but a ton of countries will also ditch the Dollar. In that case the US will only have an oversized war machine that it can't feed anymore.

>>216195488
So we should ditch the dollar is what you're telling me

>>216195488
If China is communist why don't they have the zero unemployment policy of the USSR? I see all of the drawbacks of the USSR and none of the benefits. The US hegemony rests solely on peace, if it can't bring peace to MENA then it failed objectively. China has nothing to do with it.

>>216195522
Gold goes up more than dollars and stocks so yeah

>>216194993 (OP)
Idc if China runs the world desu.
if they rule they'll just sit on their pile of riches and not do anything because they have the mandate of heaven again or whatever.

>>216195040
>>216195068
if a company wants to sell anything in china they have to do some weird thing where they have to hire chinese government officials or something and those chinese guys steal all the tech and then start up their own company with the government's backing.
China also does a practice called "dumping" there are vids of obongo bitching about it back when he was president. Basically the chinese government via subsidies produces some product like rare earths, electric cars or solar panels and then sells them to foreign markets for less than they cost to make to intentionally kill any domestic manufacturers so china can have a monopoly on the industry

>>216195092
>>216195117
GNP makes more sense than GDP, we switched from GNP which only measures goods and services produced by citizens and permanent residents to GDP because it was more jewish. the shitpost meme is correct by the way. a lot of the US economy is fake and gay and based around moving fake numbers in spreadsheets. the fact you can make more money bankrupting EA or toys r us or red lobster or remington than running it correctly shows that the economy is fake

>>216195199
Why do you care? Nobody on planet earth gives a shit about the CCP, not even Chinks

>>216195530
>I see all of the drawbacks of the USSR and none of the benefits.
They're integrated in the global economy? They have far more influence than the USSR ever dreamed of, including over the US

>>216195094
>>216195223
germans might not have access to a mine

>>216195121
>>216195137
we've been seething about china destroying our industries for decades now. nafta and the off shoring of manufacturing to china (and h1bs and off shoring tech shit) has fucking raped the shit out of the economy because all the faggots in charge of US companies don't want to pay American wages when they can get a thirdy to work 72 hours a week for $24k a year.
We aren't worried about fighting china, we would body them in an actual war, same with russia. we're worried about them driving us into poverty

>China
>rising
All they do is copy the techs from US and claim as their own. China is a morally bankrupt country already suffering from economic stagnation and high unemployment

>>216195921
>we're worried about them driving us into poverty
Wonderful, now that's an actual answer

>>216194993 (OP)
AmericN gets retard and retard by leveling with nigger and Hispanic values
America was being operated along the values of WASP and WGP ( white German Protestant ) mainly

>>216195530
China is unironically fascist, we just don't call it fascist because fascist is a bad word because of hitler, but China literally achieved hitler and that italian guy's dream

>>216195921
>we would body them in an actual war
We can't even beat the Hotuhis lmao, you think we could beat Russia AND China?

>>216195991
>russia
yes
>china
no

We're going to collapse. That's what we're going to do. I'm stocking up on ramen, rice, beans, water, and 5.56. If I die, I die. I'm not letting some chuds take me alive.

Will the USA go crazy and press the button to bring the whole planet down with them if things don't go their way?

>>216194993 (OP)
the USA is still the innovation hub of the world, all our problems aside. some degree of reindustrialization is warranted but that is the number one thing we cannot jeopardize, we have a very privileged (non-woke sense) position in the world economy and that needs to be pushed further while it remains the case

>>216195991
>>216196026
both of them, absolutely. chinese boats are ass and they have no jets and they have no access to the oceans. go look at a map, you can literally blockade china via just land bases

>>216196048
>press the button to bring the whole planet down with them if things don't go their way
No, we'll just become the new Russians and constantly cope and seethe about everything without any sense of reflection.

>>216196031
>eating beans

>>216196084
>both of them, absolutely
You're fucking insane, no different than Russians who think they can take on all of NATO or Japs that believed WWII was winnable from their pov lol

>>216196068
The US has NEVER been the 'innovation hub' of anything, unless by innovation you mean new poisons to introduce into the food supply.
India has always been the innovation capital of the world. The US is nothing.

>>216196124
good morning sir

>>216196124
it would be giving this too post much respect to even call it out as bait

>>216196124
>The US has NEVER been the 'innovation hub' of anything
The U.S is why you have electricity, lightbulbs, computers, the internet, and airplanes.

>>216196173
>electricity
Invented in India, introduced to Europe through Greece.
>Lightbulbs
Invented in Great Britain, by an Indian.
>computers
Again the UK, invented again by an Indian.
>the Internet
Invented in France by an Indian led team.
>airplane
Invented in Brazil by an Indian.

The US has invented nothing.

>>216196118
have you ever bought anything that was made in china?
China has all of 3 air craft carriers, one of which was built by the fucking USSR around the same time as Chernobyl.
China is so concerned about their lack of ocean access they are doing some massive construction project in the Himalayas to gain access to a port in like bangladesh or something
>>216196124
good bait

>>216196026
Russia honestly is more of a military threat than China, they're the ones who made things like hypersonic missiles and are heavily innovating in drone warfare. Idk why people make fun of them because of Ukraine which gets the backing of both the EU and US R&D.

>>216196194
>muh air craft carriers
Why do you think China has poured everything into their anti-ship missiles and drones?

>>216196230
because they realize they literally cannot attack the mainland US using anything other than nukes and they don't have unrestricted access to the ocean

>>216196297
>they literally cannot attack the mainland US
>he thinks China wants to attack and invade the mainland U.S like Red Dawn

reminder that the American economy is propped up by an AI bubble involving tech companies exchanging billions of dollars of "investments" between each other just to inflate each other's stock prices.

>>216196124
Kek you unironically had me in the first half buddy

>>216196314
they don't. they want to fuck the rest of the world economically

>>216196316
yeah no shit, every economy outside of like china and those thirdy sweat shop companies has been fake and gay since at least 2008, probably even earlier than 2008

>>216196316
I wonder how bad the economy will look like once the AI bubble finally pops. China is still reeling from their porpert bubble in 2021, but they seem to be recovering

>>216196316
>it's... le bubble!
I'm going to make so much money when it "pops" and all this fundamentally hyper valuable tech is on sale for a massive discount

did something happen?
why are shills so agitated all of a sudden

>>216196840
oh my GOD why do they have to be so obvious about it lmaoooooo

>>216197169
Yeah it's hilarious because here in the U.S everybody is arr rook same about Slavs except other Slavs lol.

>>216196476
>I'm going to make so much money when it "pops"
Normalfag Russians thought the same thing when the USSR collapsed

>>216195054
If I give you 20 dollars and you give me 20 dollars back, we just made the gdp 40 dollars richer.
GDP is absolutely useless, because countries realized they can just keep moving funds around to bullshit it.

>>216194993 (OP)
That.
>Becomes unlivable shithole
>everybody moves to China to ruin it instead
victory

>>216195054
The Euro is the reserve currency of the 21st century.

>>216195886
Oh yes, the rare earth mine in downtown stockholm

>>216195137
It's just mutt cope.

>>216197844
WARNING!!!!!

THIS POSTER IS A RUSSIAN REFUGEE!!!!

>>216197603
>>216197603
>>216197603

I'm just worried my country will side with the US because muh sunk cost fallacy and go down with their sinking ship. The whole point of staying neutral was so we could bail if things looked bad.

>>216197897
>RUSSIAN REFUGEE
Why Japan? Is he Ainu?

>>216197906
>Why Japan?
similar dick size

>>216197915
>Romania
kek all the alpha male memes make sense now...

>>216197926
romanians are based to, i would die for them <3

>>216197844
>being russian
>>216197837
I didn't make the map

>>216195951
Why do Americans have such a hard time understanding what fascism is?
Hitler and Mussolini didn't even have a shared dream for fascism.
There are no fascist states in the present world.

>>216198224
>Why do Americans have such a hard time understanding what fascism is?
Same reason we have a hard time grasping what communism is, we've been conditioned with decades of propaganda like linkrel painting anything other than the status quo as evil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxsNU7ZZAlU

>>216198224
fascism is a central planning based economy. china is also central planning based

He's America's Gorbachev

>>216198629
>Gorbachev
No, him and Biden are collectively our Brezhnev/Andropov

>>216198443
>fascism is a central planning based economy
You are reaching new levels of retardation not previously witnessed within an American creature.
Oskar Dirlewanger, the most infamous Waffen-SS child rapist who fought on the Eastern Front, wrote his doctoral thesis on a critique of planned economies before joining the NSDAP.

>>216198224
Fascism is when government is racist o algo.

>>216194993 (OP)
Oh no what am I going to do now that my main business partner is successful in doing business with me
This is a real head scratcher someone please find me an answer soon

>>216198929
This lol why do people assume China and USA will destroy each other? If anything they will team up

>>216198929
>my main business partner is successful in doing business with me
So are you fine with coexisting with them or do you want them to be destroyed or subverted?

>>216199001
>why do people assume China and USA will destroy each other
Americans and Chinese believing their own shitty propaganda mostly.
>they will team up
Never, the populace of neither country wants that and we both view each other with suspicion if not outright hostility. Just not to a militant or genocidal degree, which I also don't think will ever happen. The tension will simply ramp up until one side breaks, and the U.S is the more likely candidate.

>>216199001
>>216199011
Why would anything ever happen?
They may be educating their kids to hate us but their kids don't care and don't want to work to the point Xi is cowering before them.
What is China gonna do, overpower the Navy and land in California?
It would be a miracle and also an improvement on California.

>>216199035
I view Chinese men with indifference or mutual respect for working hard and I view Chinese women with the desire to put my penis in them

>>216198898
you live in a retarded country that keeps doing gay dances instead of passing laws and you gave up your guns like a tranny
china is fascist they have a central planned economy based on corporate government partnerships
the dumbest American is smarter than the smartest new zealander

>>216198929
>>216199001
trade with china has fucked our economy

>>216199146
Yeah because we did non-unilateral free trade with them
The tariffs are correct
Also the US used to get most of its government funding from tariffs, and run no deficit

>>216194993 (OP)
Tariffs are doing massive damage to the chinese economy albeit. Despite all their best efforts to move away from their position as the cheap manufacturer of happy meal toys, that's still where they're at.

I'm going to corner a Chinese woman and tickle her until she pees as revenge for China ripping us off in trade.
Then I'm going to marry her as a threat not to do it again.

>>216199177
>Yeah because we did non-unilateral free trade with them
No you didn't.
>the US used to get most of its government funding from tariffs, and run no deficit
Because US government spending 100 years ago was a fraction what it was today. Try funding your government soending using tariffs today, you'll bleed your own consumers dry.

>>216199228
Yes we did.
I don't want to try funding my fat retard wasteful government today, I want to balkanize.

>>216199125
I could rape you before you even get a single shot off from your penis compensation device so your post is null and void.
We are an Indo-Chinese colony so we're the expert on this matter.
The only American smarter than the smartest Kiwi is George Floyd (police be upon him).

>>216199181
>cheap manufacturer of happy meal toys,
And cars, and computers, and batteries, and engines, and ships(50% of all ships manufactured worldwide ), and pharmacuetical inputs, etc.

>>216199181
>Tariffs are doing massive damage to the chinese economy albeit
No they aren't, pic related.

>>216199109
>I view Chinese
I'm not talking about ethnic Chinese who've been in the U.S for some time and are basically honorary Whites, I'm talking about Chinese people in China. We just plain don't like each other very much whenever we interact with each other.
>>216199084
>their kids don't care and don't want to work to the point
How is the U.S any different in this regard?
>overpower the Navy and land in California
You DUMB FUCKING COLD WAR BOOMER NIGGER, China doesn't have to "overpower the navy and land in California" to get what it wants (Taiwan). All it has to do is overpower the "navy and land" in Okinawa and Taiwan, which every Pentagon strategist and war gamer has noted results consistently in the U.S getting raped.

>>216199177
correct
>>216199228
china had tariffs and barriers to their market while we let them dump garbage in our market

>>216199250
>gunless homo is upset about guns and calls them penis devices
they did a study and it turns out all gun owners have big penises and anti gunners, like you, had micro dicks

>>216199332
the chinese navy is too incompetent to take taiwan

>rise of china
LOL

>>216199447
I read that study. They defined the anti gunner micro dick as 10 inches of pure meat but the biggest gun owner penis was measured at 3 inches while on the most potent Viagra from a PLA factory in mainland China (imports are illegal).

>>216199472
>the Japanese navy is too incompetent to take Port Arthur

>>216199628
nope, they said gun owner cock was a solid 10 inches and anti gunner cock was 1 inch and nonAmerican anti gunner cock was half an inch
>>216199664
austalians are a cowardly group of homosexuals

what happened to the chinafag that spammed death pics anyway

>>216194993 (OP)
It's faustian, in a way. Americans would rather commit a collective suicide before they can suffer a humiliating loss.

>>216195054
China is actually a mucher larger economy than the US and EU in real terms measured by PPP.

GDP is a fraudulent metric that overestimates printed money changing hands back and forth.

Real economies produce things of value. What does the US produce? When is the last time you saw anything "made in the USA"?

The US produces nothing but US dollars which it floods the system with.

>>216199823
>I don't understand the economy so it's fake
god people like you need to be flown to china

>>216195137
It's a struggle for global hegemony. China is winning due to size and smarter policies. If the US loses its status as global hegemon, they lose lots of leverage which currently translates into serious economical advantages. They'll lose that and suffer greatly.
It's roughly comparable to the British fear of Germany's rise before the world wars.

>>216196192
Shut the fuck up, you smelly shitskin sub-human.