Thread 216546952

Does your country?

>>216546952 (OP)
no, ours keeps getting more expensive somehow despite being "greener"

haha no

>>216547106
you did this to yourself

isn't just a fancy way to say that the monthly bill will be cheaper.. this like saying I sell u 19 apples but I am giving one for free...

>>216547106
Coalburning being more green than nuclear is Germany 2025 logic.

>>216547106
Well, nuclear isn't green at all, unlike coal.

>>216547106
this always makes me smile

>>216546952 (OP)
yes. not directly due to some lawmaker saying so, but because of the way the electricity marketplace is now. the market price for electricity changes by the hour, or more recently, every 15 minutes based on anticipated production and consumption. you can get an electricity contract, and many do, where your electricity price depends on said market price. every now and then, the price of electricity is negative. on the other hand, every now and then it's also expensive. it's a combination of green energy and the free market

>>216547312
we should've never gotten rid of literally half our energy infrastructure. no wonder household spending is shit, utilities is up, groceries are up, all consumer costs are up, industry can't perform and tries to outsource EVEN MORE?!!
getting rid of nuclear was so retarded it borders on malice.

>>216547222
coal is made from plants and is renewable. it's actually a long term growth prospect and uses the very earths gravity to make it dense fuel.
it's ancient solar power meeting basically geothermals. and unlike the Earth's heat or the sun you can bring coal anywhere and just burn it. it's also heating! isn't that insane. no wonder germany is the best country ijn the world. creating coal millions of years ago just so that Germany could wisely get rid of its nuclear energy! maybe God is German after all....

>>216548747
A large portion of Germany's gas, oil, and uranium came from Russia. If you look at the green movement in Europe within the context of Russia breaking off from the west it starts to make sense, they don't want energy dependency on Russia.

>>216548747
>borders on

>>216548747
It's so silly they fell for fearmongering about nuclear power because of Fukushima.

>>216548799
you're not making a lot of sense, the anti-nuclear movement in germany dates from the cold war, not even this side of the 21st century nevermind 2014

>>216546952 (OP)
it's probably during like noon to 3 or something when no one uses electricity

>>216547163
nah, it's saying you get free energy when the sun is peak shining which is when companies use energy, not people

>>216548866
likely is, or around noon either way, when solar power production is at maximum

That's so amazing. They have so much sunlit wasteland and so little people. Makes sense.

>>216548855
West Germany was also anti-Soviet and they still had no uranium. They got their oil from MENA during the Cold War, now that the middle east is a shitshow they try to go back to coal.

>>216548855
Interestingly I've read that the whole anti nuke movement apparently was a Soviet era psyop originally

>>216548929
then the wall came down and the political consensus was economic co-operation until 2014, most of which continued after then for example with nordstream 2. their energy policy was to strengthen importation of natural gas from russia indefinitely until hugs and rainbows would take over the energy production of germany. the reasoning for shutting down nuclear energy was that it was scary to people who paid more attention to the simpsons than to physics in school

>>216546952 (OP)
aussies can't stop winning bros

>>216549052
I think that wall had to come down around the time the contra affair and gulf war happened. Not sure if it was Germany opting for a temporary solution or Russia trying to make them more dependent on the resources, either way electricity alone doesn't power Germany heavy industry and nuclear could only go so far for them, especially with the bulk of uranium needing to be imported.

>>216549093
a form of energy production can only go as far as much of it you build

>>216549093
>and nuclear could only go so far for them
ah yes, grams of uranium vs tons of coal

>>216546952 (OP)
>the three hours: 2AM - 5AM

>>216549553
99% of uranium mined needs to be enriched. You don't extract fissile uranium from the ground and also nuclear alone can't fuel Germany's love of industry, at least not to the scale it would like.

>>216549578
>the hours when I have 2 TVs, 3 projectors, and 5 monitors up for my goon sesh

HOLY BASED

THANKS FOR SAVING ME HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS PER MONTH

>>216546952 (OP)
This continent is being wasted by convicts

>>216546952 (OP)
Mine did that too once

>>216546952 (OP)
Almost but the government sold the grid to private investors. So the "transfer fee" for electricity still has to be paid even if the price of electricity would be in the negative. Which means you still have to pay.

>>216550061
Fuck the Greens and fuck Kokoomus!! Why are we stuck with such useless fucking leaders?!

>>216546952 (OP)
yes

>>216546952 (OP)
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>>216546952 (OP)
>Greece
>free anything
lmao

>>216549578
The excess is because of solar. It will be in the middle of the day.

>>216547106
I'm not sure how it is in Germany but in Italy the problem are the exorbitant fees paid to the utility companies, the actual energy isn't that expensive.

>>216547129
Germany could not have won WW2 after Judea declared war on them so you're wrong.

>>216552424
I've got a solar array on my place, I just set up all the power-hungry stuff during the day anyway for the last few years-washing machines, dishwasher, farm pumps and stuff run through the day and just turn it off before the sun goes down. If there's one thing this hellhole has is a lot of fucking sunlight
Germany did a self-inflicted wound decommissioning its nuke generators though

>>216549597
Nuclear can literally replace every other source of power on earth rn and run for another 100 million years. It’s practically a renewable.

>>216547106
It's the same here, we have ideologues hellbent on renewables giving flimsy evidence for it being "cheaper" and any questioning of this you get labelled anti-science and whatnot

This retarded-ass granny is genuinely suspected of being a spy for Russia, and not just because she's fluent in their language. She basically sucked them off for all of her tenure and sabotaged her own country (and by extension the rest of Europe).

>>216555248
isn't it more like 100 years unless we figure out fusion

>>216555248
then why the fuck did you vote for a coalition of parties, who were opently campaigning for shutting down nuclear power plants? it wasn't a hidden agenda, that they only revealed once they came to power, they kept saying it for years and were proud of it, yet you still decided to vote for them.
why are germans such a fucking slave race?

>>216555617
no, it was genuine leftist retardation and germanic autism that led their country to an energy crisis.
you have to understand that germans have a fetish for authority and they eat up everything without question that comes from a position of authority, regardless of it's validity. and since these positions are now filled with liberal arts majors who don't know shit about practical science, german follow their retarded lead, because they are above them in the social pecking order and that's all that matters for krauts.

>>216546952 (OP)
No, ours keeps getting more expensive because despite our production being cheap and efficient our electricity prices are indexed to retarded markets such as >>216547106

My parents are getting solar and a battery installed
I think it's awesome, energy from the sun is very futuristic

>>216556020
>these positions are now filled with liberal arts majors

no, and she is a physicist.

AusGAWDS win yet again