Thread 216660760

>LotR in spanish is just Mr. Rings
Do things get lost in translation iyc?

>>216660760 (OP)
SENOOOOOORRRRRR

>>216660760 (OP)
Did they not have a separate word for lords in medieval Spain?

>>216660760 (OP)
Doesn't senor mean lord as well?

>>216660811
Hidalgo

same here

>>216660831
Supposedly but I gotta imagine it loses some impact when it’s used for every chump on the street

Why not el ray?
Senor means king or lord?so they are calling Everyones king?

>>216660760 (OP)
Why is Spanish so fucking funny?

>>216660831
Yes. We use Señor as an alternative name for God.

>>216660871
Actually, we only call him "el señor".

>>216660871
It's context based. You might just be context insensitive, Mr. American.

>>216660760 (OP)
why did bilbo get on the ship with the elves in the last scene? i get that frodo was invited for his sacrifice but bilbo literally didnt do anything

>>216660760 (OP)
No, you are just a no sabo and don't get nuance.

>>216660760 (OP)
why is spanish so funny

>>216660871
>I gotta imagine
What about learning about languages from it's speakers and accepting you are just wrong?
Stop making this thread

>>216660900
>Senor means king
No

>>216660760 (OP)
here señor is used as lord, nobody uses señor outside of that it's a mexican thing to call everyone señor

>>216660760 (OP)
goofy ass clown language.

>>216660963
Everyone who carried the ring went off to the elven lands in the end. Even Sam eventually went there after his wife died.

>>216661156
Señaaaaar

>>216661156
Do you not have an equivalent to Mr/Ms in spain?

>>216660963
Bilbo had a better relationship with elves than his fellows hobbits. Also the ring was messing with his health.

>>216660900
>Why not el rey?
Because Sauron isn’t a king

>>216661203
Don/Doña, but señor is more usual.

>>216661196
Try speaking without latin/greek words for a week or STFU.
You'd be speaking a literal ooga booga language without normand/latin/greek influence.

>>216661203
yeah we use "caballero" which would be literally translated knight in english, for example if you go to a good restaurant they would you refer the man as caballero and the woman as dama generally

>>216661253
if an Ancient Greek saw you he'd ask what part of Africa are you from. if he saw me he'd kneel and ask for orders.

>>216660760 (OP)
I don't speak spanish, but it's close to the italian (Il Signore degli Anelli)
It's a literal word for word translation of The Lord of the Rings, i'm not sure what you think is being lost in translation

>>216660943
Which one wins?

>>216661241
>señor
everybody uses caballero instead of señor at least in Catalonia, you must be from Madrid

>>216661203
>Mr
As in the chief of a family or home it's Don
>Ms
Women keep their surname so there's no direct translation, you could say "la señora de Sánchez" (Sánchez being her husband's surname in this example) if you want to indicate who she's married to or just "Doña Rosa" (Rosa being her name in this example) if you don't need that

>>216660760 (OP)
>>216660843
was about to post this too
it's the english that are obsessed with lord and master shit, when in italian you don't need to call people sir or madam, it's just signore and signora

>>216661278
>Caballero

Neat. In older works of English, sometimes chevalier is used in lieu of knight

>>216660760 (OP)
I have never read lord of the rings. Am I missing out?

>>216661295
>if an Ancient Greek saw you he'd ask what part of Africa are you from.
You are implying greeks weren't literally inhabiting Africa as a normal thing, kek.
It takes a burger to go VGH Save EVROPA without knowing shit about it
>if he saw me he'd kneel and ask for orders.
They would dissect you, mouth breathing creatura

>>216661352
Book Jesus has some impressive shoulders. My money is on him.

>>216661500
>Am I missing out?
Yes

>>216661358
>caballero
Hello? Are you from the '60s?
>>216661500
Start with The hobbit. Trust me.

the saar of the rangs

did Aragon ever sexo Arwen?

>>216661156
>it's a mexican thing to call everyone señor
Maybe because the monarchy or the crown weren't really important, so neither were titles, as such the word adapted.

We use "señor" for old men in a formal way, but when you don't know that person for example to call a random old man on the street, and "Don" also formal but closer, for old men you already know.

>>216661646
are you southamerican? go to any resturant in Barcelona and the waiter (assuming he's Spanish) will always say "que le pongo caballero?"

>>216661358
So what would a Jedi Knight be, Caballero Jedi?

>>216661716
What does elf pussy feel like?

>do things get lost in translation iyc
Untangling the lore of Mega Man has been the most compelling ARG of my life.

>>216660917
>>216660943
kinda similar here, "Gospod" means God "Gospodin" means mister

>>216661358
>>216661646
Here caballero is used by police to address male civilians, this extended to hoodrats so you can tell if someone who sells stuff in the street or something like that did time in prison because they think it's educated to address someone as caballero, kek

>>216661742
yeah
>>216661755
police use it too here

>>216661748
a wizard does not concern himself with copulating

el don de las argollas

>>216661198
Even Gimli went there with Legolas and he didn't carry the ring

>>216660902
Those Dragon Ball Z tier lists caused me to laugh any time I see spanish

>>216660963
frodo only got on thanks to bilbo

>>216660760 (OP)
What should it be? El caudillo de los anillos?

>>216662757
>>216660902

>>216660760 (OP)
Mr is literally a modernization of "my lord". Most languages didn't bother.
>signor et al.
>Herr (from Herzog)
>pan
>гocпoдин

>>216662717
>And the ship went out into the High Sea and passed on into the West, until at last on a night of rain Frodo smelled a sweet fragrance on the air and heard the sound of singing that came over the water. And then it seemed to him that as in his dream in the house of Bombadil, the grey rain-curtain turned all to silver glass and was rolled back, and he beheld white shores and beyond them a far green country under a swift sunrise.

>>216665049
Why are you making everyone retarded?

>>216660915
I can't read that.

>>216660963
Bilbo was an elf-friend and guarded the ring for many decades.

>>216661253
>Try speaking without latin/greek words for a week or STFU.
>You'd be speaking a literal ooga booga language without normand/latin/greek influence.
That's sort of the point of Tolkien tho

>>216660902
>>216662757
probably because you partially recognize their words, but not entirely

>>216665132
I like how the poster actually fits the title

>>216660760 (OP)
In Hebrew it's something like "Minister of the Rings", sounds weird but it works

>>216660760 (OP)
>Senior does anal
Wtf Spain

>>216662788
that's warlord

>>216667097
isn’t sauron a warlord?

>>216667215
you are a sauron

>>216661200
gemmy

>>216660943
we call him Sir

>>216667706
*Him

>>216661739
Can confirm it's the same in Andalucia

>>216661241
This is what OP is talking about, and I don’t get what’s so hard about this to grasp for the Spanish speakers itt. The title of the book isn’t supposed to be “some dude that has rings”. This is the kind of shit I point to when I say no one is ever as fluent as they are in their first language. I’ve met guys that have been here for 40 years and still fail to grasp basic English concepts a 5 year old would get. This is also why it’s child abuse not to teach your kid English first, else they end up retarded and irrelevant for life.

>>216660760 (OP)
they used an archaic word for lord or ruler here (vlastelin) which i suppose is fitting

>>216667871
but hes telling you señor is an accurate translation

>>216667097
Warlord is a much closer translation then “dat nigga wit da rangz” which is roughly the OP

>>216667917
I know that señor is accurate in that it’s used for “lord” (both medieval and biblical), I just found it funny that it’s also used very frequently as a standard form of address. “Lord” is very distinct from “mister.” The former, in its medieval sense, has connotations of domineering and oppression. You can even use it as a verb to express snootiness - “He’s such a prick. Just because he’s rich doesn’t mean he can lord it over everybody.”

>>216667917
And I’m telling you it’s not. If you truly speak both languages you know it’s not too. And I think the issue is you don’t know what lord means. In this case especially it’s implying mastery over the rings. Does senior do that? No, it does not.

>>216668083
>. In this case especially it’s implying mastery over the rings. Does senior do that? No, it does not.
yes it does

>>216668019
just go with this but it would sound like pic related>>216660839

>>216660760 (OP)
Here it was translated to 'The Archon of the Rings'.

>>216668110
It doesn’t tho. Why are you gaslighting me.

>>216668083
>>216668185
it does.

>>216668272
No. I know what I’m talking about, I taught English in Seville for 6 months before they fired me for being a drunk. I promise you it’s not a perfect translation

>>216668292
nah, it does. not a single person here has ever had an issue with it and understood it refers to "lord" right away. sounds like a you problem.

>>216668292
if you think the "don" in don quijote its because its "mr" quijote then you didnt learn much

>>216667871
they had to follow the translated title of the book which had already existed before the films

it's also a medieval fantasy so the choice of words might be purposefully old-fashioned to sound like some chivalric romance

>>216668316
I can watch a subbed anime and see no issues with it. And yet I promise there are errors and things lost in translation. That’s the whole crux of the problem isn’t it, you don’t notice the change.

>>216668347
don't know what to tell you dude, people didn't have an issue because we understood context. seems like you have an SSL problem and can't accept the fact that actual native speakers would point out otherwise.

>>216668323
“Taught” is a different word from “learn”. Soy el maestro así que aprende

>>216668389
pues te acabo de enseñar que estabas equivocado

>>216668323
>Dvque de Bejar, El Señor de Burguillos

>>216668446
But you didn’t THOUGH

>>216667871
"El" has implications in Spanish.
You are just a no sabo kid coping.
STFU

>>216668083
It does, you retard.

>>216660900
"Señor de" could be translated as a ruler of a region that might imply having some kind of nobility title, but that doesn't mean being a king.

>>216668185
Translate "enseñorearse" for me then, monolingual chicano RETARD

>>216660963
Wearing that ring at least once entitles you to a long journey with those pointy ear faggots

>>216668482
>>216669014
>>216669023
>>216669037

>>216668083
>In this case especially it’s implying mastery over the rings.
Well, the Spanish translation is correct then.

>>216661352
euro cuck vs psychopathic Mena bvll

>>216661500
The hobbit was easy to read, the LOTR is harder to swallow, Tolkien spends a good amount of time describing the word where the story happens.

>>216661754
Can u please stop speaking russian? Create your own language

>>216669095
He was a colossal globalist cuck though.
Imagine trusting his opinion.
Same as Sarmiento, another self hating faggot.