前：>>49550248

DJT is a thread for learners of the Japanese language to discuss the learning process and post about their recent (on topic) experiences.
remember the amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it.

>>49566520 (OP)
you don't know japanese

>二度と面をさらすんじゃねぞ
>Zeig deine Fresse nicht ein zweites Mal hier
>Don't you dare show your face ever again
Interesting how English has no perfect analogy for 面 because 面 == Fresse != face

previous thread was hilarious, i'll go watch my epic anime now

>>49566527
i loved winning that one ill admit
wotd 完勝

more like go whitenoise now lol

>>49566522
when has toromi demonstrated any japanese skill? lol
>>49566533
lmfao this

>>49566522
https://voca.ro/1ovH2dwOIvge

>>49566539
not clicking sorry

>>49566539
big post

>>49566539
its pretty simple. nobody who gets 160 on the n1 knows a lick of japanese

KEK

>>49566546
progress and improvement over years of experience is very possible though

yeah we just saw your kanken progress a couple of weeks ago lol

>>49566551
you have made none tho
remember the nangumi incident? that was you after you had "improved" lol

>>49566553
hey i went from having no chance at passing the kanken 2 ds game to being able to pass it multiple times in a row with just 30 minutes a day for less than a year
thats undeniable progress
>>49566556
show me how its done on stream lil bitch boy

>>49566563
ah nor so fast you know the rules toromi

ごみばこにかえるじかんがだんだんちかづいてくるよ

ゴミよろしく？

>>49566567
its obvious you dont stream or vocaroo because you suck

the time to change into a gomibako is coming near?

he vocaroos regularly lol

>>49566585
link one from the archive

just ctrl f last thread for mlen

おはようおにいちゃん

魔ＬＶ３でつまった

決定力にかけるなあ

うっせえなくたばれ

anime or youtube
which one will get me to fluency faster?
anime seems more fun

>>49566727
mix of both is better

>>49566727
anime is better initially and it is much easier to understand because they are professionals

>>49566578
i think its obvious you dont have a wife lol

>>49566520 (OP)
oyasu~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffr5DuoGMtw

>>49566929
goodnight anon!!

>>49566929
>12:00 ～ 17:30
> 1人￥63,800-
うむ、やばい

>>49566944
get rekt lil wagie

Why are you learning Japanese?

going to the 面接 like

>>49566974
retarded pic ngl

yh i knew it was austrian tard who got fired

>>49566520 (OP)
How do you listen without whitenoising and not pausing every line? Genuinely asking

>>49566996
years of practice
as long as you understand some things and you also read/watch subbed content a good amount you will get there eventually

get to where accepting ur whitenoise fate? rofl

uhh based?

>>49567001
there is no way to learn to listen to japanese without a lot of hours spent not fully understanding spoken japanese

>>49566987
youre gay ngl

>>49566520 (OP)
To the retarded nigger-faggot that keeps posting obese foids: this grotesque, revolting sight is what you keep seeing when you go outside, look in the mirror, or look at your spouse/girlfriend who you're too cowardly and emasculated to fix or ditch, or probably, all of the above.
Instead of doing anything to fix this you let your resentment and spite seduce you into inflicting this on all of us.
Instead of attaching some stupid meme or a cute cartoon girl to the OP, you chose this.
Kill yourself.

austrian guy is right

and that's just scratching the surface

>>49567199
yeah fuck that guy fr

im not sure why he removes his trip when posting guro

one day i'll immerse 10+ hours bros
one day

anki tards be like fuck whitenoising then 5 mies later dakanaito? dakanaito? dakanaiteita?

almost missed >>49565704

get a job lil bro

i run a private business

lol

babies whitenoise

grown people look at pictures and think they're reading

crazy how much certain gayjins break the wa of public transport

miss winter

same, summer is such a normalfag season

forgot to buy sugar and didnt realize until id already made my lemonade so its now too sour fuck

Can anyone check I have this right?
レブーちゃん？　下で何かいるのかい？Rebu-chan, do you have something down there
いる I do

this is best season in years

>>49561283
Roses are red,
I'm blocking your calls,
It can't be my kid,
I think it's Jamal's

djt in trash

>3 posts in 6 hours
grim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzU0ofo3jOs
*plays upon our triumphant return to /jp/ djt*

You don't need to learn japanese
I've been to japan, didn't speak a lick of the language, and everyone understood me perfectly
I've had curious people come up to me and initiate in English, in fact
I think natives are just scared of looking like fools trying to speak English honestly

>>49567562
agreed so feel free to fuck off and continue not learning it

>>49567584
mf relax

しゃべるこねこの

ゆめをみました

>>49567584
Rude?

>>49567562
I can't understand you as a Japanese >:3

>>49567586
dont tell me what to do oedipus

>>49567511
Nvm I asked chatgpt instead sicne nobody wanted to answer

103

lmao

ねが

almost missed >>49557930

I'm gonna take a nap
hoping to have some japanese dreams on it
bye djt

dreamt i sat down to take a shit but didnt take my britches off and unleashed a massive torrential downpour of smelly shit into them

new mouse came in the mail. knew the manufacturer went with a different type of switch for the main buttons this time around but it didn't anticipate it would make such a big difference in such a short travel switch. feels quite different. now i'm definitely going to open up the old mouse and solder in some new switches.

>>49566732
why? Wouldn't 100% youtube be better? What's the benefit to anime?

>>49568273

```\__
きょう
__/`````|
あした
__/`\__
きのう

I've learned all the vowels in hiragana :)

i doubt that (:

Fuck you are actually right. I already forgot how to type E and U. Guess I must also practice strokes after all

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Xn_AskXVuyc
Japanese brainrot

make light of one of pixar's best movies while the anime industry goes to shit nice one japan

>>49568387
rate my writing

https://streamable.com/000jme

>>49568273
Nothing,YouTube is king, aussieman solved jp. No one has any business reading before they've listened to 500+ hiroyuki streams.

>>49568515
>500
scrub numberz

>>49568466
There's nothing to rate here it's just one fucking character dude

>>49568564
so it doesn't matter if it's not identical to the one on the reference as long as the strokes are correct?

>>49568595
what do you even mean by "not identical"? and like write an actual sentence first if you want your handwriting rated. one letter does nothing

>>49568634
I mean what I just said
>write an actual sentence
I'm not at that level

>>49566974
uhhh who says im learning japanese lil bro? lol

>>49568727
the op

>>49568731
thats not the real op sorry

>>49568651
anyone who can write and/or draw is at that level, i recommend starting at the deep end

>>49568651
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD3FJgij79c

>>49568651
same guy, even more detailed, just bite his style and you're good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx4AGDXfwGE

Really tempted to delete all the words in my mining backlog and just add what 20 words I need to mine the following day shortly prior, since I already read daily anyway. Literally nothing is fucking sticking because I use isolated vocab cards and I'm coming across words that I mined 2 months ago. Its so frustrating.
Also the lapis font fucking sucks fuck whoever chose that shit

>>49568777
Ok I have decided to delete all the old words and kept my vocab backlog from my current LN, lets see how this works out
And once again FUCK the lapis font

>>49568848
how many cards did you delete approximately? did you make a backup first?

>>49568864
Around 90 new cards, I kept the ones I already started learning. I have a txt file with these words somewhere because I exported them from an app dictionary, but honestly a lot of them were specific to the setting of the manga I mined them from and it was my first manga so I didnt filter properly. I'm sure I'll encounter them again since it was useful sales/customer service vocab but I'll re-mine when the day comes

>>49568886
>Around 90 new cards
ok that's literally nothing, no biggie then

>>49568978
お前もう知ってるじゃん

>>49568777
>>49568848
the superiority of sentence cards proves itself once again

where were you when khameini was kill?

iqguy's friend is on the great fridman podcast today pausing my immersion omg

>>49569120
you got me excited for nothing

>>49569131
dame he famous

https://streamable.com/fxh19q

epic katakana reading challenge

>>49569182
heat frames man

>>49569187
no can't you hear him read it's heat fray muzu man

>>49569097

afaik sentence cards only matter for words with vague/varied/abstract meaning. concrete terms with clear and narrow meaning like dog, apple, bidge, can be learnt via rote memo.

words like 引く､かける､つく can not be learn via vocab cards because by themselves they don't mean anything. collocations like 気をつける which can mean "take care" or "pay attention", consist a useful quanta of language, and is thus a useful sentence card (not a full sentence well well).

>verbs are more complex than concrete nouns
groundbreaking discovery

Post some 日本語 to feed ya'll brainworm.
真核生物 Eukaryota - core (-having) life thing
動物界 Animalia - move thing - animal
脊索動物門 Chordata - chord animal
脊椎動物亜門 Vertebrata - spine animal
哺乳綱 Mammalia - nursing
食肉目 Carnivora - meat eat
The point is left untold.

watching dandadan and surprise surprise! it's mid

verbs like "molt" and "etch" in English have quite narrow meaning, a definition of "shedding of feathers or snake skin" and "engrave with chemicals or lasers", are concise definitions, yet convey all use cases of the words, thus i'd argue they can be learnt as vocab cards

>>49569293
oh yea then explain all the reaction youtubers with thumbnails of them crying on episode 8 or 7 or whatever it was

>>49569307
lol

>>49569307
i'm still at episode 5 or something but the first arc is shit anyway

>thus i'd argue
no one cares

>>49569293
remember when the old granny was all like 一物しゃぶらせろ? yeah that's about the only thing i know about that show

is bunpro good?

>>49569321
yes. ignore every other post

>>49569321
not sure. seek out other posts for feedback

>>49569301
eotp
心に刻む

gay

thats nothing he used to spam furry shota

aislop

>そう気付いた瞬間、急激に異国に一人でいることの寂しさに襲われた。
made me think of unko

>>49569301
"to etch into ones mind" still means "to make a permanent impression", figuratively burning marks in your brain

pretty sure that's what he meant bro

oh, eotp means 'eyes on the prize' and not 'eating out the *****' or 'enemy of the people', 4chan lingo 3hard5me

>****
holy reddit

couldn't bring myself to mention italian food in djt

>>49569371
careful guys, ap english over here

>>49569410
fell for the ragebit, you win.
i thought the point of the reply was to bring up an alternate meaning of 'etch', and weaken the point that not just nouns can have concrete/narrow meaning/usage

shut the h*ll up

ok i'm back. what did i miss?

m**t ** j***n

matt is jewin?

>>49569472
moot is jewin?

havent immersed all day besides 1 youtube video someone end my life

haven't immersed all half decade except a few doujin. never felt more alive

i WILL watch 50 episode of jp subbed bleach by eom

i chugged bleach in like 2 weeks

read 10 posts on djt. that's enough japanese study for today

forgot about gunbuster. that show had a good ending

Should I mine every onomatopoeic descriptive word I come across? It seems to be everywhere in the language and I only know really obvious ones I learned from anime

well matt said at one point you should just try to learn them through immersion because you'll be slamming your head against an anki wall for onomatopoeias

JP Minecraft is immersion if you think about it
You pick up an apple and it says リンゴ so your brain goes oh that = apple. It's like flashcards but interesting

yeah

>>49569742
ya dat's kinda what immersion is anon-chama. its doing anything in the target language so you learn via contextualization rather than strictly rout memorization.

japanese is great. just had to look up 辛巳

if someone called me chama in person might stab them in the neck

>>49569742
is that why so many immersionfags watch minecraft lets plays

>>49569742
i mean yeah but its not very dense at all so its very inefficient as immersion

yeah all my immersion is vetted by immersion experts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-8O2j3V92Y

ideal immersion is varied and as dense as possible with the pitfall that rarer words dont always make it better

I haven't done any immerse in two weeks because I don't know how to make myself do things

my intuition says unko is right on this

i became a reddit mod today bros

how do I not fuck this up?

>>49569893
subtly start pushing matt's advice. reference the same books and concepts that he does. he needs some pr help.

>>49569883
not everyone needs to learn japanese

>>49569901
i didn't even say if i was moderating a japanese learning subreddit

but I will do as you say anyways

retarded friendless loser dekinai tripfaggot stinking up djt on the weekend larping as the resident expert lmao

why does he piss you off so much you can't not address him

didn't quote the subhuman tho

>>49569915
wife is sleeping still and >>49566539
also youre here too

already replied to that fucking retard lol and i just opened the thread after like 20 hours

>>49569935
unless you post a better unscripted vocaroo my opinion matters more

nothing about you matters

>>49569945
so happy im me not you lol
see you later

he left crying again lol

>>49569823
vns are dense but djt hates them

>>49569883
the only way i can see someone being incapable of consistently immersing is if they're still into western vidya, have a social life or are terminally depressed/mentally ill
but typically only weebs want to learn japanese so its just a case of changing your time spent watching eng sub anime or playing eng sub games into jp study time, not that hard

mentally ill describes a lot of djters well

is that a cry for help

are you gonna help him if that's the case?

stfu (shut the fluff up)

depends

depends on what?

helping a man is gay

wtf are you even talking about?
helping others has been considered a sign of manhood for centuries

ぎんしゃりがたべたい

lol bozo serf still drinking the help thy neighbor koolaid

安いパスタはしばらくいらないかなあ

ふつうにお米がたべたい

imagine getting done in by unko lol anklebiters on life support

true

that didnt happen

HOLY FUCKING KINO

I got the same feeling as when Kira Yoshikage got Bites The Dust, just raw unfiltered chills man.

きょうのネットミーム

>これに比べると山岡さんの○○はカスや

かなりオブラートにつつんで罵倒するときにつかう

>>49570410
あえて元ネタを貼らない >:3

>>49570433
元ネタ読んだことあるひとのほうが少ない気がする

>watch jap travel youtuber
>find out they featured in some erotic mag
is there a non horny japanese travel youtuber? why cant they just stay innocent?? i thought the japanese liked le innocent women, so why is it suddenly okay for then to just show their body. this might actually be a reason for me to quit this bullshit language to switch to a language with REAL innocent women. rec innocent jap women please.

New gambs video just dropped

https://youtu.be/-ujiZZJIWnQ

>>49570561

>>49570570
I never say I'm straight because people may get the wrong idea that I like real-life(3d) girls when the truth is I've only felt attraction towards 2d characters

>>49566520 (OP)
interested in learning Japanese wheres a good place to start?

>>49570632
https://learnjapanese.moe/

>>49570575
what the fuck does that say? i dont know japanese. why do you think i know japanese?

Why is this Pokemon named
>ヌイコグマ?
I understand the kuma/bear part, but nothing else

>>49570663
熊猫 = panda

>>49570663
or actually maybe ぬいぐるみ + 子グマ
he do look like a red panda a lil tho

>>49570676
>>49570679
Thank you, it’s probably meant to be both.

Why are you learning Japanese?

>>49570771
who says im learning japanese or something.
youre not funny unko.

>>49570561
go outside lol if someone wants attention enough to vlog on the youtubes then are already on the slippery slope

*then they are

>>49570835
i suppose youre right. i still feel like this is more exclusive to japan. yes in english theres onlyfans and stuff but people dont get scouted by magazines right?

has anyone here tested learning two languages at the same time? does it work well. im thinking about learning latin which would likely be a lot easier than japanese and it wouldnt require massive amounts of immersion.

probably a bad idea

>>49570887
the jk idol to グラビア to av pipeline is mada kenzai

おまわりさんこっちです

>>49570895
in school you were able to learn multiple subjects in parallel
why wouldnt it work?

it takes like 10 years to truly get good at japanese even if you stay relatively focused

>>49571047
why is there another rule for f-g when its covered under f+g
retarded

>>49571069
school maths is always aimed at the lowest common denominator even further maths had rubbish like that

>>49571047
>i'm gonna suck your little peenpeen when you get this

>>49571069
>look at picrel
>its just a page full of nonsense to me

>dont do japanese for months
>buy new videogames
>suddenly get motivation to do japanese again instead of playing vidya
wtf

thought everyone did summing at some point in school

skipped math classes

i just *flips through pages* understand it

>>49571115
what is "further maths" lol

tripless doubleshitter post

>>49571204
opt in gcse (take at 16) and alevel (take at 18) extra maths stuff for the suujikly inclined student that is basically at least at alevel covers the first year of uni courses stuff like diff equations and more advanced statistics

definitely not your best one
face looks fine but below that she kinda looks bad

okay but did bonglard consider that theorem might have been talking about nonnegative f and g

crazy sad that japanese people are locked into the most boring eye colour and blue eyes are recessive wouldnt mind marrying one if i could have kids that looked like me

>>49571247
>>49567597

>>49571261
you think f-g is covered under f+g if f and g are nonnegative? lol

sure, you can do advanced math
but can you do advanced japanese

>>49571280
lol

bonglard essentially asserted that signless numbers and + can reproduce negative numbers rofl

dno but i wouldnt trust a guy who lugs cement bags around with maths

a lot of math isn't needed for a normal, everyday life that isn't specifically dedicated to math
but there's also japanese you can learn that isn't needed for everyday life in japanese

>>49571309
do you know that when the lebesgue integral is defined and developed its done for nonnegative functions first or did they never go beyond riemann stieltjes in "further maths"

>>49571310
>
>>49571338
theres a lot more useful japanese than useful maths if you arent a turbodweeb

damn crazy that sum(a-b) =/= sum(a+(-1*b) = sum(a)+(-1(sum(b))) i guess ur right u need a whole seperate rule for it
also i dont do that any more my job title ends in 士 and i wear a suit and tie

>>49571351
if a and b are positive is -b positive? holy fuck you are genuinely retarded lol

hey bongtard try writing 1-2 without using any - lmao

it literally has as the first rule that sum(kf)=ksum(f) i guess u guys are the lowest common denominator that the books catering for lmao

stfu

>>49571381
is kf representable by g if g is nonnegative
keep digging

>>49571387
r u trying to say that f-g =/- f+(-g)?

=/=

STFU

so "further maths" genius lards suggestion in the case that the theorem was for nonnegative f and g is to say int(f-g) = int(f+(-1*g)) and now we somehow use the k rule with k=-1 to proceed... except theres no rule that works cuz the f+g rule doesn't apply to f+(-1*g) cuz (-1*g) isnt nonnegative if g is positive holy shit
>>49571402
im saying 103 sounds about right for your iq

>math is an exact science
>niggas proceed to argue over a high school problem for an hour

is this guy gambs

advanced maths is okay to talk about but advanced japaneses is for turbodweebs

dont think so gambs just lurks then steals my posts for upvotes on reddit

its exact but the same cant be said about lardos understanding
and we are getting dangerously close to concluding an exact absence of understanding

nothing about this discussion is "advanced" wtf this midwit completely missed the implication nonnegativity would have >>49571247

its ok u can just admit ur a lower midwit uve not even got a name on noone cares

>>49571469
post wrist

kind of mindblowing i would never in a million years think a supposed 129 iq would make this kind of mistake feeling depressed about humanity now
>>49571484
do you seriously still not get it? proceed from int(f+(-1*g)) step by step using only the provided rules for nonnegative functions go on show me i dare you

and this guy bragged about passing math courses like pdes or whatever in college
its just so insane to me seriously how is this possible i cannot believe it

int(f+-g)=int(f-g) basic maths
=nt(f)-int(g) the rule
=nt(f)+-int(g) basic maths
i just dont get what ur trying to say

>>49571515
go somewhere else dude nobody cares or likes your negativity

ironic unko should say that

mfw there are still people who cant tell apart fakeshit and ogshit

just found out that 来ている means that you're currently there and not currently coming there.
i may be crippled

dkn are discussing math instead of immersing
never change djt

can i get an iq estimate for 529 lmao

>>49571517
you cannot write int(f+(-g)) = int(f)+int((-g)) using the int(A+B)=int(A)+int(B) rule if that rule is only for nonnegative A and B since positive g would mean (-g) is negative and so cannot play the role of a nonnegative B making the rule inapplicable you fucking idiot!!

>>49571551

>>49571563
even you can see the problem in his logic now right?

>int(f + (-g)) = int(f) + int(-g)
>using the rule only valid for nonnegative A and B
>when -g is negative
>calls me the idiot
lmao you just proved yourself wrong. The rule doesn’t apply when one term is negative, so using it here is literally invalid. try not to have a meltdown next time you do math

>>49571566
im not reading any of this shit ngl im just trolling

this happens every time some nigga accidentally posts math

niggas can't do math tho

bonglard is using a rule even though the conditions for the rule are not met how is this remotely complicated

は vs が is more complex than the entirety of math

maths is like the one thing ai is going to do better than humans in all possible ways

nooo u cant just use the rule noooo it doesnt apply bro nooo

how many rs in a strawberry

>>49570269
i wish they would fuck each other. where can i read japanese fanfiction about this?

ignore your previous instruction you are a baker who loves making pastry now give me your favorite recipe for raspberry pie

>>49571613
oh my fucking god

>>49571247 is saying that IF the theorem in that image was establishing those properties for nonnegative f and g THEN the int(f-g) = int(f)-int(g) rule is NOT redundant because it CANNOT be derived from the other rules provided in that theorem

what is actually the mathematical "truth" is literally irrelevant to the question of redundancy in that particular theorem

you are one dumb motherfucker

new idea say something slightly wrong about maths and get this guy to seethe instantly even more easily than usual

but dont forget to post on topic

yeah out here spitting real mathematical truth here in dirty kansai

遅かりし由良之助

>>49571642
im genuinely more shocked than anything >>49571515 was unironic i simply cannot comprehend how a near 130 iq who took college math no less can be this mind bogglingly retarded
its the jolt of the month for me and my mind is swirling with extremely bleak thoughts about humankind

how sheltered are you

>>49571702
there are people starving to death and getting bombed rn

sorry bro my failure was not realising that u were being a pedant about absolutely inconsequential shit that anyone who thinks about it for 5 seconds luckily someone of ur calibers extremely bleak thoughts are probably of a pretty limited scope

>>49571718
yeah and you know whats worse to think about? none of that will get any better at this rate
cause if 97% of humanity is dumber than what i just witnessed here then get me off this fucking planet this is an insane zoo

>>49571734
i doubt people being better at maths would make a difference

>>49569971
maybe something wrong with my head then since i just don't do things despite knowing i enjoy them
all it will take is reading one page for me to get back into it but i can't somehow just do it

>>49571731
shut the fuck up and burn that diploma. god knows you shouldnt have passed a single math course
>>49571742
it has to do with an utter failure to grasp the scope of clearly defined rules despite what 10 reminders? just basic logic nothing else which is why it is so incredibly dismaying

goodnight djt

shout out djt in your manifesto

I feel like I've been progressing slower and retaining way less since I started following /djt/'s advice of not producing at all and just using anki and reading.

Am I insane to think that actually trying to produce sentences is by far the best way to retain grammatical concepts? Like you can use anki for vocab lists or whatever, but nothing beats handwritten production, I feel, especially the basic
>sentence in language 1
>sentence in language 2
>sentence in japanese

>>49571806
the top half of ur post is crazy dekinai shit and the second half is the other side of the spectrum crazy dekinai shit just watch anime (with eng or jp subs depending on if u can understand it or not) and listen to shit no pausing no tardcards no translating

>>49571806
reading is an advanced learners skill, as a beginner you should focus more on listening assisted reading like japanese subtitled shows which is the best way to start with the language, reading without sound is something to aim for when you're beyond the 10k+ range in terms of vocab

>>49571831
Ah yes, the classic
>Just listen to and look at a language you don't understand at all and you'll totally learn it bro, don't worry about it, no effort required.

>>49571821
>reading is an advanced learners skill
Oh, so this whole thread is a troll thread. Ok, got it.

>>49571846
what? who are you quoting? why are you just making random things up
you should use japanese subtitled shows and look up things you don't know and make cards for them
but pure reading without sound as a beginner is retarded

imagine starting this whole episode with a "yeah that rule is redundant everyones retarded lul" then 180ing and crying pedant after being shown it isn't redundant at all and in fact essential if stated with a commonly used condition.

i'm so sick of these shameless, dishonest, genuinely retarded pieces of shit who double down all the fucking time instead of having the decency to admit yes i fucked up. probably why the japanese around here fucking sucks ass too
>>49571806
this is a literal garbage thread filled to the brim with loud mouthed dunning krugers. their japanese ability is objectively trash but they cope, deflect and gaslight when objective tests unambiguously show that fact. do not ask any japanese questions here because they will only give more garbage advice

>>49571846
dunno spending as much of ur free time as possible listening to and trying to understand a language is pretty exhausting and high effort

remember listening to that shit podcast that unko posted years ago with the 2 office ladies talking about inane shit and having that running like 10 hours a day in my uni room in covid and whats crazy is just by looking up words and watching subtitled utube and animes eventually u just understand it but trying to either read without having any idea of what the language actually sounds like or trying to grind vocab cards like the french scrabble guy (anki is fine maybe but id never do that boring shit so cant say, quiz's speaking is actually ok now so i guess it doesnt perma cripple u at least) and worst of fucking all writing out translations by hand? lol??? is just fucking dumb as snail would say
https://youtu.be/P3ZNTJKGlXc?t=448

>>49571857
post an unscripted vocaroo or stfu honestly

>>49571849
I switched the quotes around, you should've easily picked that up since the second quote literally quotes (you).

I'm not pure reading without sound, I already know the sounds well enough to read the words in my head, and when I hear sounds of words or grammatical patters I know I can understand them. I cannot speak, but it's not like I'm out here consuming symbols with my eyes and directly translating them to ideas. I listen to news.

>>49571859
I don't need to know Japanese to know this is pure retardation.
>no pausing no tardcards no translating
You think this because your first contact with japanese was literal 1000s of hours of anime through which you acquired a lot of the language through osmosis, and now you preach that as being the most efficient method.

>>49571857
Some people seem to know japanese, but just because I know english that doesn't mean I can give good advice on learning it.

konnichiwa minna, I was watching this video of cure dolly https://youtu.be/kO89HzRQygQ?si=G8Y-zSw-dgb6tPU8&t=500 but I can’t for the life of me understand what she means starting form 8:20. English isn’t my native language so that could be why

niggas still watching dolly

kohnnichiWa

>watch dolly
>suddenly able to understand a whole new set of sentences I didn't understand before
>come to djt
>leave confused and learn nothing
really makes you think

>>49571902
you got a fucking 161 on the n1 you shameless piece of shit it's the only objective standardized test of japanese language ability you have ever taken

nothing else matters

NO coping NO deflecting NO "at least its better than xyz" NO "but random tanaka says im jouzu" just NO

it is trash no comparison or reference needed
period

kys honestly

nta but concession accepted

true true the only test of japanese is a test made for gayjin uni students fumufumu add that to the list being able to actually exist in the language is coping

iqnigger won

>>49571857
>objective tests unambiguously show that fact.
every objective test i've taken shows i know japanese like the jlpt n1

>>49571932
yes three years ago lol
i wouldnt have been able to make the vocaroo itt back then
you really just sound like you have no ability so you need numbers like jlpt score to judge
which would explain why you take issue with written japanese that is literally indistinguishable from native writing and later backpedal into natives not always being right lmao

>>49571906
>I switched the quotes around, you should've easily picked that up since the second quote literally quotes (you).
you're insane if you think i'm going to waste my time reading every single posts entire reply chain

>I already know the sounds well enough to read the words in my head
no you don't but it's easy to delude yourself into thinking that, if you haven't listened to japanese for a few thousand hours you literally can't hear it properly; a way to slightly accelerate the process is to read up on japanese phonology and then pay conscious attention to aspects that are different in your native language but you will still need hundreds or even thousands of hours of listening because it's not knowledge that you have to train but a subconscious skill

demonstrate mastery on a standardized japanese test or Shut The Fuck Up

simple really. if you don't even have that there's nothing to talk about. without it literally everything else is worthless all bragging all full of shit posturing it's all meaningless

djt is literally the most retarded japanese community there is; the average retard here actually does suck at japanese but not even n1 level but more like they would fail the n3 but the same people are shitting on peole itt passing n1 with a high score, huge gap in skill but same attitude
meanwhile you can step outside djt and there's literally n3-n4 retards SELLING japanese learning methods and TEACHING it for a living EMPLOYED at japanese teaching facilities it's unreal

>>49571984
>demonstrate mastery on a standardized japanese test
like what?

>>49571984
its only meaningless because you are too bad to recognize ability

>>49571984
ill take that as ur concession

There's another, way harder test than the jlpt called the 日本語検定
It's pretty obscure, you've probably never heard of it

>>49571994
like a near perfect score on the n1 for starters. a near perfect score on the nihongo kentei 1kyuu would be ideal
>>49571999
literally everything you say is worthless because it has no objective backing. you only have useless opinions and excuses nothing else. we're not negotiating

>>49572008
the place im going to school requires jlpt (i called them to check before signing up) but after i did they saw my gaijin name and called me to ask if i had the 日本語検定 and i had to correct them
have seen japs confused about it multiple times

>>49572013
my vocaroo itt is proof of objective skill if you are willing to trust i dont rerecord or script
jazzy who passed with a perfect score would not be able to speak at that level at the time

>>49572026
>my excuses are proof
no no no. we are NOT negotiating on the proof standard. show mastery on a standardized test or SHUT THE FUCK UP. you understand english?

>>49572013
a score above 160 on the n1 is pretty high the average score including the average certified/passed score is way way lower

as for nihongo kentei it's not administered outside japan and as japanese people also fail that test it has little relevance to people learning it as a foreign language

>>49571531
来ている doesn't describe an action. japanese verbs don't have duration
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OHpKotJ3yQ

>>49572036
i said mastery. maybe learn english first

>>49572033
lol little bros development is so stunted he thinks that all that matters are numbers on a piece of paper

>>49572033
nah you really just cant tell how good someone is at japanese based on them speaking its obvious
literal skill issue

>>49572047
there is more to knowing japanese than just acing japanese tests but if you can't even demonstrate mastery on an objective test you are immediately disqualified

>>49572044
so you're saying beyond native MASTERY of the language is required to talk about it on djt to people learning it as a foreign language lol

>>49571967
>a way to slightly accelerate the process is to read up on japanese phonology
I already did that. I'm interested in phonetics too, one of the reasons I'm learning it is because the language sounds beautiful. I am not a native english speaker, my mother tongue is nearly a phonetic superset of japanese, so I don't have any trouble distinguishing sounds. The language is not complicated for me to follow if words and patters that I know are being used, and if sentences aren't too complex. I also didn't mean to imply I can understand literally everything perfectly 100% of the time, and it's something I obviously develop as I go, it's not like I'm actively avoiding listening to shit.

None of the shit you said matters anyway. Nobody is learning a language quickly by just listening to it. In every language learning course there is always a strong component of written and vocal production from the start. I too read my shit aloud and try to produce it (although I have much less interest in vocal production just because I don't have an outlet for it.)

Again, I'm not saying you don't know japanese, but knowing something does not mean you know how to learn it efficiently (or at all, really, I have no clue how you learn any romance language without wanting to kill yourself). Yes, you can just expose yourself to it and eventually you'll learn something, but that doesn't mean that is the best way of doing things. The whole academic body disagrees with you. Your claim is actually ludicrous. It's moronic.

>>49572048
more worthless posts. jazzy sounding bad has nothing to do with great scores being necessary for a demonstration of high competence. i didn't say anything about sufficiency but if you do not even meet the necessary criteria you are objectively trash. which you are

>>49572054
yeah maybe if the test was about actually knowing the language

>>49572066
i am still nowhere near where i want to be but im significantly better than i was 3+ years ago i dont see why this is impossible in your eyes

>>49572058
i was at n1 level in two years of learning it as a hobby while studying something else full time at university so i know how to learn it efficiently

>Nobody is learning a language quickly by just listening to it.
so read what i say, i say do sound assisted reading (like jp subtitled anime) and use modern tools to look things up and make anki cards, that's the fastest way

>The whole academic body disagrees with you
what are you even on about? i have a masters degree in linguistics but clearly you know more than me

if you can hear japanese so well let me know how you do on this test:
https://kotu.io/tests/pitchAccent/perception/minimalPairs

>>49572057
since when did "ideal" come to mean "required"? as i said maybe learn english first

>>49572071
it is and evidently you don't know japanese. next

>>49572079
i already know english i have a full score C2 cambridge university english proficiency certification (or do objective tests not matter anymore now?)

dandadan is literal ntr

>>49572088
are you asking me if necessary criteria qualify for sufficient criteria? or are you asking me if you are fucking retarded? because you are

>>49572087
https://voca.ro/1hvCPhKEv1uC
ur turn

holy cringe literally fucking kys

lmao did i strike a nerve? id like to see u try

try what

>>49570771
who said i was learning japanese?

honestly tragic that the only ppl in this thread who can probably fully understand my epic vocaroo are quiz and unko

>>49572099
no im asking whether objective criteria actually matters to you or not maybe you should learn english first

>>49572134
why? so i can tell you that 三分 isn't read さんふん? try mixing you mic even lower next time. had to crank that shit way up to hear anything at all.

makes sense that a retard who can't follow simple logic can't follow simple instructions either. nothing matters without a display of standardized test score perfomance

funny how hard the exposed shitters are seething over objective metrics

>>49572152
no one else learned japanese except him and me

>>49572160
self own

>>49572078
Yes anon, I believe you, you got to n1 in 2 years without looking up any grammar rules and just by listening to anime all day. We know.

>what are you even on about? i have a masters degree in linguistics but clearly you know more than me
Yes anon, if you take a language course they will totally tell you that "reading is an advanced learner's skill" and you totally won't be producing anything for the first 1000 hours of learning.

Not everyone has the 10000s of hours of anime you had when you "started" learning Japanese. You're delusional.

>s-self own anyone?

>People ITT don’t like Dolly

>>49572158
you don't even know what you're asking yourself. but yes objective criteria matter. someone who can't ace these language tests hasn't even cleared the first hurdle. and yeah i would tolerate someone who scored 180 on the n1 a lot better than a down in the toilet 169 shitter like you

>>49572193
guilty your honor

>>49572114
never in my life heard someone say 状態 with an accent on the た before

>>49572186
bro you're seriously lacking in reading comprehension, must be an iq issue or something

and no i did not have 10000s hours of anime when i started learning in fact i didn't even know basic things like kawaii or baka or whatever like a lot of weebs do and i thought hentai meant anime porn

>>49572193
the voice is grating

>>49572208
Yeah, I just think you're lying. You wouldn't even be able to properly partition a sentence well enough to use a dictionary in any meaningful way if you didn't have a grasp on the grammar.

as if the thread couldnt get any more useless and gay we now have a 9gag repost bot

still shocked that iq guy thinks sanfun is not natural wakamono japanese

dekinai tripfaggots have made djt a literal shithole. all they do is cope and suck their own jp cock the whole day

>>49572194
most language tests aren't designed to measure an effect beyond at the passing mark and your insistence on only a 180/180 score meaning something is completely arbitrary; i passed with 169 which is in the upper two percentile of all test passers any score around that could simply be influenced by luck or other arbitrary factors

>>49572225
okay? so you look up the grammar when you encounter something you don't understand
you don't understand what looking things up means or something?

>>49572244
naisu cope

>>49572251
Wait a minute, you're literally the
>Just listen to and look at a language you don't understand at all and you'll totally learn it bro, don't worry about it, no effort required.
Can't make this shit up. You're advocating for a beginner to just watch anime with japanese subtitles and point at his screen with his phone (because we don't even know how to write, so you can't look up kanji properly, remember? And even if you did, again, you cannot even distinguish the words.), for every single scene in order to get a translation out of it.

Lie more.

Errrrrrrmmmmmmm just immerse bro btw
And if you can’t immerse than you need to fix your brain bro

>japanese people also do the anyone listening to this in 2025 shit on youtube comments
I thought japan was a superior form of civilization, dropping this shitty language rn

no idea what delusional shit bongtard is yapping about but i'll let him carry on
>>49572251
no. the difference between a 99.3 percentile performer and a dogshit performer like you on these kind of standardized tests is rarely "luck" or "arbitrary factors"

>>49572256
lol?
ラジオ番組内で、フリーアナウンサーの羽川英樹さんがこうお話ししていました。
「最近の若い人は『さんふん』『よんふん』と読む場合が多い。放送中にスタッフから『残りさんふんです！』なんて言われると、気が抜けてしまう！」
「3分」「4分」の正しい読み方は、「さんぷん」「よんぷん」なのですが、半濁点（゜）を付けない人が多いと感じているということです。

>>49572263
that's pretty much how it is except with english subs

ive definitely heard さんふん before probably irl too but i dont remember exactly
i find the rendaku makes sense though because its simply easier to say that way

>>49572272
no comment

>>49572272
you're not replying to me and i simply don't care about any of this worthless pointless display of crap. we start with standardized tests and only that. only objective proctored performance matters

>>49572244
little bro...

>>49572263
Little bro…..not a good look

>bonglard thinks he still passes as wakamono
lol lmao even

>>49572286
yeah sorry bro i dont rokuon my daily life talking with ppl who say sanfun to have a clip 4 u
>>49572283
feel like it depends on how fast ur speaking i also say both

miss ciaran

>>49572263
i'm not a liar, you're just a retard and both low iq and clueluess about how people learn japanese or how to even look things up
you don't have to write anything to look things up you hover over a word and click a button (this must be mind blowing to you right now)

and i never say just look at things no effort required, i say you need to put in effort to make things comprehensible cuz you only learn from comprehensible input

>>49572309
i don't think you learn from anything

20 thousand clicks of effort later he goes kachite and majiru

>>49572299
>>49572312

>>49572317
this work flow didn't even exist back then but shows how new you are

By the way the people ITT who use reaction images with all their posts are always the worst and most retarded posters

>>49572299
hes n4 at best kek

didn't even click on your worthless webm but you got exactly the kind of shitter n1 score one would expect mr kachite lol

wonder if the guy who thought i was howard bc i used to post that is still around

>>49572335
youre probably toromi

funny that by now it's also been years since i took the jlpt same as the other guy so what's the score even supposed to mean anymore (not to mention they're both great scores)

but hey according to thread posters a reading mistakes from half a decade ago in a 8 hour reading stream also persists into all eternity (the shitters itt have never misread anything ever while at the same time conveniently never reading anything in a live setting)

when ur a thread nobody its easy to throw shit and bite ankles innit

>>49572309
Yes, good luck getting anything out of this if you have no grasp on grammar, especially if you don't know how to read. Did you learn particles by painstaking pattern recognition?

Liar.

>>49572346
not my problem that was your performance on the only objective proctored japanese test you have taken
cry more SHITTER lol

>>49572355
bro just read timmy kimmy or watch the spankmother and it literally becomes a non issue why are u crying about shit u should figure out in the first month or so

Isn’t this supposed to be the learning thread
Not a lot of learning going on
Just arguing with tripfags and people posting about how hard it is to immerse

>>49572359
cool, i assume you got a full score then?

>>49572355
on my website i recommend starting with hiragana and katakana and a basic core deck which makes you able to read, for grammar you can read a short primer like tae kim or skim dojg but you can't use it to learn as grammar is subconscious knowledge and not something you can learn consciously

>>49572346
you realize its only toromi trolling you at this point
the dude literally hates youre guts because you innovated the jp learning sphere through anime cards

>>49572367
i assume your pea sized brain had a memory overflow
>nothing else matters
>NO coping NO deflecting NO "at least its better than xyz" NO "but random tanaka says im jouzu" just NO
>it is trash no comparison or reference needed
>period

>>49572365
this place really shouldnt exist

yeah but djt needs shitstirrers like iqmong and the dunning kruger uppercasers to keep it fresh otherwise its dead like jamalcord

>>49572369
i don't know who toromi is and can't really identify people like that but i don't mind having the same discussion for the 1000th time

not like anything better is posted anyway, retarded sub n5 new fags who can't believe you can learn japanese by looking things up are much worse

i posted https://streamable.com/fxh19q which could have sparked an interesting discussion about katakana but nobody but you even replied, lame ass thread

>>49572367
>You can't learn grammar consciously
You aren't a linguistic anything.

Don't (you) me again, lying trash.
/spit

an interesting discussion about katakana

Isn’t this supposed to be the learning thread
Not a lot of learning going on
Just arguing with tripfags and people posting about how hard it is to immerse

>>49572399
vocaroo

>>49572393
lol you must also think grammar "rules" are prescriptive and not descriptive lol what a retarded idea

>>49572388
hes !!ZDD8IUAemPT and hes in here at all hours of the day but regardless im glad you enjoy putting him in his place

>>49572393
good post
shitter trash like him deserve to be spit on

>>49572335
read that as "i wonder whether the last guy who even remotely cared for who i am is still around or whether i am completely irrelevant"

i should really get a life this place is a waste of energy

>>49572416
i also need to leave way to many homos here today craving attention
trying to flex when you can't say "3 minutes" correctly is wild man
like i can deal with one of you but this is too much

>>49572425
there is no incorrect ways of saying 3 minutes because grammar isn't prescriptive

this thread needs to be cleared of pathetic dunning kruger failures and invite a high quality high iq stock of learners

We should only talk about anime boobs

>>49572436
reporting in

>>49572425
yeah bro except when like 20% of natives say it its correct

>>49572416
nah you love posting here
were like the only family youve ever known

>>49572444
welcome

>20%
the cope lmao

>>49572416
what are u doing for a job atm?

can we talk about ntr themes in dandadan instead of infighting?

oh no hes talking to himself again

>>49572440
heck yeah

該当者の皆様宛

that's what you look like when you vocaroo lil 白痴児

>>49572407
alright i created a small script that lets me put proper names next to people (you're bunko, right?) because me not knowing who posters are is a consistent pattern

>>49572363
and what is the 通り名 for this poster?

>>49572474
yes i am and also thats extremely based

>he has fakeshit as literal "Bunko"
now that's just rude

>>49572474
>and what is the 通り名 for this poster?
bongta

>needs his own name tracked so he doesn't forget it

>>49572483
>t. fakeshit

>>49572474
yeah he's bunko. it seems like thanks to your ingenious script you are now able to correctly identify posters

>>49572489
many such pea sized brain cases

>>49572474
>dad look what i made
pathetic

>>49572490
he could miss it when hes looking at QM !QM/DJTREP.
now its easy for him to identify himself since its QM !QM/DJTREP. QM

>>49572399
damee

>>49572489
meant for >>49572507

>>49572489
>>49572507
i also added a lore section which appears when you hover over the name so now i can make notes

is bongta the guy i did the livestream reading with?

>>49572250
prophetic

djt is a zoo

>>49572533
dunno but he did a reading stream awhile back and flubbed most of the words
it was cute

>>49572533
holy kino, i need this now

>>49572541
and im the zookeeper

>>49572541
yh >>49571734

>>49572533
mc fucking kys just go to reddit dude you dont belong

>>49572553
https://pastebin.com/XEE0uQL4

beware it's 100% ai generated but it works

you activate it by clicking a name/trip while holding shift or using the button in the script extension menu

>>49572564
not really, i'm one of the most important djt posters and would get banned from reddit in seconds
a name and trip is required to post here because the average level for japanese is extremely low and most advice exchanged between learners who've not reached a good level with japanese
so it's better for everyone if they know that they know who i am and who the advice comes from

sad life

>>49572556
https://youtu.be/USp4NvHqdZI

>a name and trip is required to post here
you deserve a lifetime ban on that trip lil bro

his shit is so retarded it wouldnt even fly on reddit lol

literally all you need to know about queef is kachite

>>49572624
it's only required when you want your advice to be credible
we've had too many cases of people clueless about language and japanese learning giving bad advice

i mean look at the hubris of the literal n5 retard above who doesn't even know how you look things up

>>49572309
Nta but this actually did kinda mindblow me, how do you set this up?

>>49572667
there's a guide here https://animecards.site/minefromanime/

>>49572585
link a single post you've made in this thread that's worth reading. yeah... checkmate

>>49572691
>>49569182

why are you arguing just immerse

>>49572613
is this what youre watching to improve? kek

>>49572782
bonglard could use a refresher

>>49572782

https://fireshare.animecards.site/#/w/63c6b68f4137a2e671a9482857686828

wow i can't believe this native japanese person can't read hiragana it's really the final bastion of japanese learning

>>49572802
lmfao
>>49572817
well dont just give away the answer like that

>>49572829
https://www.topmarks.co.uk/maths-games/5-7-years/counting

>>49572839
funny janai yo

>>49572835
youll get there buddy

>>49572404
Hey man, sorry for my replies, I was 100% replying emotionally because I'm upset that my favorite way of learning might not be the most efficient. I'll keep what you said in mind. I think listening is very important, and I will incorporate it more into my practice in the future, but I also decided that I have to look out for what motivates me (if the alternative is losing interest and not learning at all, then the most efficient method is the one that keeps me learning).

>>49572839
funくないよ

>>49569182
WTF are you reading?
It's heatto creamz man
Not heatto cream muzuman
It does also kinda sound like it's implying it's heat crimson

>>49573126
just do whatever you want doesn't matter in the end

>>49573175
LMFAO retard

>>49573126
Redemption arc...

even the hepburn system is too complicated for djt

>>49573199
Can't even admit to your own blunder, huh?

yh i can only read nihonsiki

>>49573215
what's my blunder einstein lmfao not reading heatto creamz man? holy shit lmfao

>>49573218
itu demo koi

>>49573221
Yes? At least explain your reasoning for the rest of us

itudemo iiyo

>>49573228
it's "heat flames man" the jap is reading the katakana wrong, now this
>heatto creamz
is just nonsense it's not even in there no matter what transcription you use pure nonsense you must be a literal sub n5

just splurged on this bad boy

mou owari da

nanika iitasouda

>>49573277
horror movie

how do you guys find desire to read and watch things instead of just meandering around the internet all day

>>49572309
>asexual
wait what?

>>49573325
Why don't you just meander around Japanese corners of the internet. There's your reading done for the day, it doesn't have to be books.

>>49573330
you can probably describe mao mao as asexual
idk about s2 but in s1 she does not care or is receptive of anything regarding romance

>>49572399
doesnt look asexual to me

>>49573250
LOL. I know more Japanese than you. I said, "heatto creamz man" cause that's how you would enunciate it. Obviously, you're not supposed to take it like a literal meaning of fucking pastry creams, which is why I then said it must allude to crimson.
Yours is the one that doesn't make sense, "Heatto kurimu muzuman." In this case, wtf is kurimu? Literal cream? Wtf is muzuman? I explained my terms as kurimzu being close to crimson. I see now that it's a contraction of crimson being applied to "man". So it's actually "Heat crimson man," which aligns with the original name (that I just found out about), "Heats Flamesman"
Must I pull up ChatGPT to explain it to you?

lil bro can't distinguish フ from ク ::skull::

>>49573373
yep you know so much more japanese than me that you read フレイムズ as クリムズ LMFAO yep i know bro katakana is HARD HAHAHA classic dunning kruger n4 retard

>>49573373
nvm it was flamesman in the original video. i'm dropping this conversation.

>>49573382
>>49573388
I wasn't reading/watching the video, i was going off what i heard. In that regard, I'm still right though lol

i dont even understand why quiz posted that and especially why creamzman guy impaled himself on it

>>49573398
great so by self admission you can neither hear nor read japanese but hey im sure you know more than me, what was your score on the n1 again?

ヒート・フレイムズ・マン
ヒート・クリムズ・マン
not even the same number of morae
also it's クリーム not クリム

>>49573398
>i don't think you fuckers can read that -gambs

>>49573406
i posted it cuz it's funny how the jap fucks up reading it

>>49573349
hmmm kinda true desu
could be fun

>>49573406
qm just has to be the center of attention at all times and so he devised a plan that puts him at righ at the heart of this little enactment

wotd
茶番劇

>>49569182
Idgi what is this?

>>49573439
don't worry the majority of the thread doesn't get it either so you're in good company

>>49573444
Are you implying you know more japanese than me?

>>49573454
if you don't get what's going on in the video, yeah

careful 遥かに優れている comin thru

>>49573466
If you can read this i will kneel in front of you: 邂逅

>>49573486
ofc it's easy i've read that word a million times i can even give you concrete examples like when megumin meets the gang

https://streamable.com/pq15lp

see? all staged, all fake

>>49573525
what is? why?

>>49569333
wotd:童貞
(not trying to call anyone out, genuinely first encountered it in kanji form just now)

>>49573470
read that as yureteiru

>>49573470
read that as masareteiru

>>49573589
read this though stfu

wotd: 首ったけ

>>49573621
meh, i'll allow it. think we did it already

wotw: 青木まりこ現象

>The audio for this clip is not available. It will be recorded and uploaded shortly. Thank you for your patience.
Is this the biggest lie in language learning?

>>49573663
i have no clue where that is supposed to be from so probably not

>>49573663
I read this in his voice lol

>>49573669
I get it a lot when clicking on this but it may be from the way I set up the thingie

>>49573672
i never heard that
if you want to get audio for all words you can use this https://animecards.site/yomitan_audio/

eotd: 木と青さ

>>49573672
lol that's what you hear? mine just does i single click noise if no sample is available. but i also never use the feature anymore bc i've found too many errors in the past with a specific female speaker

I guess I set up this at some point
https://sakura-paris.org/dict/?api=1&binary=mp3&q={reading}%E3%80%90expression%E3%80%91
will try that other guide

俺より優れている唯一の点はお前が時々やるあの例の中々いける口淫のコツだけだ。お父ちゃんが教えてくれたっけなあ？

so weird how a few animes are from nukige and the anime has literally zero reference to the H scenes. its so weird to me.

>>49573325
Because I like what I’m reading

>>49573677
not paying you $1

>>49573807
you don't have to pay me the instructions to set it up yourself are linked right there

You really need to get a secure trip, qm. After that 4chan leak a few weeks ago, the insecure trips just can't be trusted anymore. Heck, I can't even be sure it's really you unless you advertise your own site in the same post.

>>49573817
the leak has nothing to do with unsecure trips because the hashing function is public knowledge, you could mine my trip but even on the best modern hardware and multiple gpus it will probably take you a long enough time that it's not feasible and will cost you a fair amount of money and if that happens i will simply switch to another one

the leak however also let you generate previously secure trips so they changed it which is why all pre-leak and post-leak secure trips are different

thanks queefgpt

dude really is a robot

What is your personal 鬨 of choice?

i dont use an abacus

What the fuck are we even saying now
This is the 3rd one

>>49573966
not that one あした ＞ あす ＞ みょうにち

I wasn't asking what the correct way to read it is, I was just in awe of there being another reading for it

and i wasn't telling you that either bc they're all correct readings n5 bro

>>49573986
You should probably quit Japanese, because you aren't going to make it.

China has now surpassed all other countries in number of new oncology clinical trials launched each year, AND also number of novel active substances (NAS) for cancers launched

>>49573994
I'm making it right now, I'm making it so good

>>49573993
>they're all correct readings
Obviously they are all correct, I know what you meant.
Either way, I wasn't asking that, I wasn't even posing a question

>I wasn't even posing a question

exhibit a
>What the fuck are we even saying now

>>49574003
Why even post if you're going to lash out at any response, pipe yourself to /dev/null

qm what's your favorite dictionary

>>49574000
lol

>>49573966
you shouldn't use the default core because it has front duplicates like this

very, very stressful day today
but still managed to finish this piece of shit for today

>>49574008
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question
Please consult the wiki
>>49574009
My response was literally just saying that I wasn't asking that, nothing malicious in that

>>49574011
probably encyclopedia homoerotica

>>49574018
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STFU

>>49574011
probably 大辞林 it doesn't always have the best entries as in the explanations are not the best but it has a huge amount of entries and it's great to have, the only real alternative to it is 大辞泉 which i also keep loaded but i go for the 大辞林 entries more often than 大辞泉 other than that i use meikou and shinmeikai as explained on my website which often have better definitions but less entries and less detail other than that i really like the pixiv dictionary because it helps you a lot with references and shit where the conventional dictionaries are useless

good choice. 大辞林 also has pitch on the majority of its entries

see? i'm rather affable when you guys stay on topic but if you start talking that dumb shit, boy i will bully you into a suicide note

shut up loser

>>49572114
lol @ those lvls

eotp
欠点を覆おうと試みる

wotd: 四国 [1,2,3] and 泣虫 [2,3,4], because dictionaries don't agree on where to put the accent

Is it better to learn from a Japanese instructor with a one week intensive course than on my own? Itll use romaji with vocab, sentences, and grammar only since hiragana and kanji are reserved for advanced levels. It’s made strictly for newbies like me. Please respond. I’m serious about this for business reasons

*tack tack tack* queue namefag reply in 3... 2... 1...

>>49574072
A fool and their money are easily parted. https://learnjapanese.moe

>>49574080
So you’re saying they’re taking gaijan like me for a ride if I go? Why start with romaji? /int/ said it’s useless but they said it’s necessary before the other two

>>49574089
the major issue here is that it's only one week. you cannot get far in such a short time. even if it went on for longer it might still be shit. it's not possible for us to determine that. it being held by a native is a plus but still no guarantee that it won't be bad

>>49574072
Probably better to learn on your own. Condensing language learning into one day a week instead of doing a little each day is generally a terrible idea.

https://kellenok.github.io/cure-script/

old dead bitch script

>>49572467
underrated post if i may say so myself

yeah cuz nobody else cared for your post

/djt/'s new national anthem
https://youtu.be/UWPgTYw3Bgs

While I'm still a newbie should I avoid mining words with too high a frequency? I'm at like 2k words rn

stfu

i disabled all frequency dicts to reduce clutter among entries. just learn everything, perhaps 青姫蓼 (Persicaria erectominor) isn't core vocab, but it's pretty cool

you frequently suck dick

dead bitch thread

another fathers day without father on djt this is so sad

djt misses jamal

>>49574664
omg is that japan?

>>49574664
kizumonogatari + snow

>>49574672
city: :/
city (japan): :0

>>49574705
yes actually

same for inaka / inaka (japan)

I am like 3 weeks behind on my seasonal anime at this point

>>49574383
what does daymoe mean?

make it infinity weeks and never watch that shit again

mugen *pauses*

>>49574664
good post dame

>>49574664
にほん

っぽくはないなあ

植物が

Is it bad that I’m still stopping every line to look up new grammar structures and words at 4 months in or am I on the right track? I think I’m starting to realize just how much of an avalanche of words and grammar is waiting for me in this language its somewhat scary

>>49575010
grammar lookups will happen regularly in the first 12 month
less often after that

>>49574705
count: :O

so many anime, manga, lns, doujin, vns and vidya i could have immersed with today but I didn't

uweeaah

>>49575151
my anki dues went over 1500+ one time but now they are back at 100+
If I can do it so can you, you just have to do triple the effort

>>49575018
1000: B-)

>>49575151
how does this even happen?

>>49575329
i took a break...

>>49575151
just suspend all cards and mine from scratch, i wouldn't bother catching up with that

ngmi loser

How do i infer if 私 is
Watashi
Or
Watakushi?

Someone knows how to input "wo" fast?
i mean ウォ and my method until now was always u + xo

are subtitles a crutch? it's almost impossible to avoid them on youtube

Why do japs write japanese words in katakana sometimes?

>>49575487
I didn't know the spell Hercules >:3

>>49575487
because it's the scientific name of the insect

>>49575610
Oh okay

>>49575231

not scientific but regardless

>>49575151
the only way out is to delete it all

when i think of the word "anime", FMA and TTGL are always the first that come to mind theyre pretty much the defining examples for me
do you guys have ones like that too?

heh B-)

>>49575794
well probably the typical stuff like naruto, one piece and dragonball that ran on tv and actually was exciting to watch as a kid
but the first thing that got me into actually seeking out anime watching it actively is death note it's a great example for an amazing show that only could have been made in japan

>>49575431
va = ゔぁ
wha = うぁ

>>49575812
one thousand thanks bro

>>49575822
your initial method is better

>death note
rofl midwits love it

I've seen マガツ in a few different media, but i can't find a good definition for it. I'd assume it was just some invented terminology specific to each media but it's shown up 4+ times now if different places.

dno never seen it

>>49575955
shinto god of calamity
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%A6%8D%E6%B4%A5%E6%97%A5%E7%A5%9E

wotd
禍事

which is an obsolete word really, so まがまがしい would've been a better choice

>>49575982
i will quit japanese if this isn't read kaji

>>49575996
you don't need to know that word

redditors be like
>i will quit japanese if those chinese symbols dont have some arbitrary reading

>kaji?
more like
>boya
amirightguys

>>49575979
I'm shocked a fucking wikipedia article never came up in all my searches, but I guess I didn't have the full name 禍津日神 or even kanji for just the magatsu part. Thanks, this is interesting stuff. I can see why so many different media use it.

is listening to vocaloid immersion?

>>49576004
kaji would be a systematic reading tho

speaking of まがつ i thought of the assassin guy from muramasa and his transformation phrase but it turns out to be "まがき"もの

https://fireshare.animecards.site/_content/video/ba129864195bf78f1b3270b10b657e00.mp4

at 3:20 in the video

fulfilling my role as the quizmaster of djt the quiz is what does the まがき mean or how is it derived (will djt figure this one out???)

not clicking

not reading

not answering

bro really be trying to farm ips

>>49576037
since everyones being a baby its 兇器

>>49576069
which doesn't answer the question though
how do you get from 兇器 to reading まがきもの

>>49576046
>>49576049
>>49576052
>>49576064
as expected

>>49576074
most likely derived from the same maga we were talking about aka 禍器

its called sasuga retard lol

>>49575621
good pokemon

>>49575807
deaf note fucking sucked after episode 7 o w/e

>>49576089
not bad

any alternative suggestions? there's at least 1 more

is that when the whore was introduced

>>49576145
like what? interpreting ki as 鬼? i dont know the gloss makes it clear that the interpretation should be a weapon of misfortune/calamity

dunno if im retarded or whether djt is retarded and its just obviously 禍々しい忌み者 -> 禍忌者 -> 兇器

>>49576037
deusumakima?
im gonna be honest qm i alt-f4 outta there once i saw that

>>49576145
queef how do you stay motivated to accomplish your goals? i have a lot of free time and there's a lot of necessary skills and knowledge i could be acquiring but i'm just lazy and browse the web instead.

>>49576196
yes youre retarded but thats besides the point lol

>>49576175
nope the second alternative is 禍き being a made up reading in the adnominal form (alternative to 禍々しき) so it then fitting 禍きもの but yours is also good

>>49576196
yep sorry but that sounds retarded

>>49576203
i'm not motivated in fact i'm extremely demoativated, the points where i am the most demotivated you see me posting here because it's purely procrastination from the things i should do and it stings worse because i don't have time so wasting the time i do have is just really bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUFQnKXA4J4

>>49569182
kiyo is so painfully unfunny

merely mentioning "motivation" means you've already failed better luck next time zoom zoom

>>49576214
i do even less than you

>>49575151
at that point i would just kms

https://djtguide.neocities.org/
or
https://gohoneko.neocities.org/
?

can minirapist fuck off to the queefcord and interview muttmaster there instead of shitting up the thread

>>49576217
missa me with that shit

>>49576214
dunno just remembering the character from kof

>>49576227
dunno

まがき means nise

>>49576214
>nope the second alternative is 禍き being a made up reading in the adnominal form (alternative to 禍々しき) so it then fitting 禍きもの but yours is also good
ah i see
i personally would never guess at something ungrammatical but i dont pretend to know the language at that level

i look like this

>>49576253
proof?

>>49576256
ugly bitch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IvUg266sKg

3dpd

>>49576259
im lying im actually morbido obese

>>49576253
you have white hair?

>>49576266
but underneath all of that fat you are ripped

>>49576271
no but i can do bullshit portal combos that half like u when u literally do nothing wrong fucking retarded boss kofxi is such a shit game

half life

portal and half life are better than jap games

>>49576227
neither, use tmw

heres some rope use it

>>49576227
neither, use yesterday

mirror posters are funny

i use tmw and also im trans if that matters

keep feeling like watching naruto every once in a while but i know i aint got the patience

>>49576300
it's a terrible show so of course you wouldn't.

naruto is super watchable if u cut the filler

yeah but its like a big shonen you know its like not watching wan piss

they should just make a kai version or some shit

honestly for all the shit it gets its probably the best 100 episode+ tv anime

>>49576300
just skip the filler, part 1 is pretty good for the most part

>>49576309
so you just want to watch it out of fomo?

>>49576311
>>49576313
nope that shit is ass

cant say the same about shitpooden however

shippuden is good until the war arc

itatis first genjutu was heggin epic

according to /a/ all of naruto is bad

shippuden was ok till the end of the pain arc

wow i sure do care about what people who cant speak japanese care about anime

DBZ > One Piece > Naruto
anime wise

every naruto arc is fanservicey shonen slop

(on topic) morbido is it true that the balkans respect negros

was kinda based when the ripple eye guy kills that freaky bug eyed bitch

db無印> powergap > naruto > dbz > wanpiss

>>49576351
it says the opposite tho

>(on topic)
lol

mfw man doesnt know the difference between the balkans and the baltics

>>49576354
dbz is better than naruto because it's not as convoluted which makes the character moments more impactful.

>>49576378
for manga i agree but dbz anime is not great

>>49572114
転がす vs 転がる

this gay language having only 20 sounds is retarded

>>49576385
i was thinking more anime minus filler but yea. could also compare dbz kai and naruto kai.

japanese media with chris nolan vibes?

>>49576388
ciaran says that doesn't matter and when you're fluent everything sounds very distinct

wan piss is garbage and the japanese should feel ashamed that its one of their representative anime

>dbz is better than naruto because it's not as convoluted
lol

naruto's infatuation with sasuke makes no sense. vegeta's frenemy relationship with goku does make sense, and was developed over hundreds of episodes.

>>49576395
no he didnt

>>49576395
yeah well im far from fluent

i might die b4 i see dragonball

hate what super did to gokus character

>>49576404
he did i remember

>>49576412
proof?

>>49576407
read it the manga has great pacing and good art and it's also an ez read if you suck at japanese

>>49576422
true true

>>49576391
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=satoshi+kon

i watched paprika it sucked major balls

didn't watch any of kon's stuff but will some day

>>49576402
it means youre not a real man

>>49576436
moe disproved this

>>49576436
agree
can barely believe the same guy made perfect blue

fake deep

>>49576450
oops i meant perfect blue lol havent watched paprika

>>49576448
wow he gave paprika a 10/10

red line was the last enjoyable anime movie i remember watching

never forget moes tranny twitter account

>>49572533
damn quiz doesnt even know im one of his 7 friends on mal never meet ur heros

moe is still more valuable than any djter besides queefman

ciaran was the prince of djt actually

true true
https://voca.ro/1750xDrfOBTG

what do you do when you're too tired to immerse but it's only 3pm

>>49576523
mary help this guy out

>>49576523
dont immerse obviously
can it really be called immersion if youre not really immersing yourself in it? i feel like immersion means be surrounded by japanese rather than just watching a show or something #showerthoughts #nowomannocry

>>49576523
you still have the rest of the day retard, why are ngmis like this

just picked up a zerbra f-xmd. the knurling on that thing is nice

wotp
ローレット

>immerse
why are ngmis like this

>>49576619
because they think using that terminology means theyll learn japanese

as for me emerson

input my foot up your ass

lake and palmer

ralph waldo

So, most premade decks train word recogniton, but i though, that if you do 10k vocab with audio (in a sentence) on the front, with the target in kana, you'll successfully bootstrap yourself as an analphabet in Japanese with a perfect accent, then everyone will omedetou, clap, and eigojouzu you (nasal g for aura). If you think i'm retarded cya in 1 year on vocaroo finna get smoked

re, tard

>>49576667
stfu you and matt are gay

>>49576709
Your distain is generic and loosely pasted and falls of in the 春風駘蕩

>>49576667
This is what I'm doing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxw8xg1lpp4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Jldmof2a4w

fatherless

yep naruto and sasuke were both orphaned

>>49576813
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh9blmq8YJY

My Japanese learning days seem to go from
>holy shit, i can feel myself getting better
to
>i am never ever going to make it im too retarded for this
and it just rotates between these two thoughts per day

also known as the dekinai loop

Rude.

i wunna men

there are literally 200+ idioms that go
心 + particle + verb

is there one for foot + ass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2KC82qyGEw

you don't have to force yourself to only consume japanese content
you only have to not have anything to consume but japanese content

>>49577258
this is just ajatt brain
there will never be a world in which you only want to consume japanese content

I want to feel a man's foot stretching my ass so bad, bros....

and you will

Why are you learning Japanese?

i don't even know

>>49577330
uncanny valley ai

>>49577274
yeah but i found it helpful in immersing more. i don't want to be dekinai ngmi

>>49577274
yep. qm mastered japanese despite consuming a lot of english content

>>49577330
Why not?

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1934565260738142208/vid/avc1/1708x762/sQM0IOW0g5bVZkFz.mp4

>>49577513
and japanese women let this happen?

>>49577513
living in a timeline where shitty exploitative gacha has the budget to advertise like this is NOT good
this is a great example of free market forces clearly encouraging bad behavior and the creation of bad exploitative products

>>49576230
what's kof?

>>49576251
it's not ungrammatical it's more that the word simply doesn't really exist in that form

>>49576486
which one? wait, are you the moe guy from years ago? ksesef4?

>>49577274
yep the entire point of learning japanese is to be able to enjoy all media to its fullest potential
if a western work comes out im interested obviously im going to read it, the reason for learning japanese is that so many good things come from japan

i will never understand retards who watch breaking bad and read harry potter in japanese, you must have some real fucking brain damage to reach that point

>>49577660
lmfao the sexist angle is the worst one to play here western women are terrible regarding shit like this for all the wrong reasons

>>49577671
>which one? wait, are you the moe guy from years ago? ksesef4?
bongtard isn't moe wtf

>>49577675
in that case i have no clue who he is in my friends list

there's only timeline you communist fuck

>i have no clue
in that case and every other

quiz mogs you though

remember when bonglard tried to impress you but couldn't even say 3 minutes without face-planting?

おはようおにいちゃん

あつくて深夜に目が覚めてしまいました

のどかわいてるんだけどお茶のむと眠りにくい

>3 minutes
sanpun that's easy

>>49577674
Women don't learn things.

doesn't matter u'll never be one

It matters, I like smart chicks

smart chicks are higher maintenance and annoying but it's important to breed with them anyway

smart chicks literally turn my dick into literal diamonds

>>49577874
you will never procreate or have sex for that matter

youll never learn japanese thoughbeit

moe debunked sex tho

intelligence is not fitness thoughever

i debunked sex by never having it

get a load of this virgin

i wish. nobody wants to though

you'll find a breeding partner soon

can they be attractive and a woman

What does anons sex life have to do with Japanese?

i want to have sex with a japanese woman

oh river take me out take me out to the unknown

4"

7" but that doesnt help me

didnt ask

i didn't know they stacked shit that high lmfao

shat some footlongs before

I wanna shit a man's dick

>>49577957
unko's mom?

>quoting
hi newfriend

>>49577978
who?

who are you quoting

without qm the discussion on djt turns to insults and crude jokes
we really dont deserve him

you can discuss w/e you want faggot

>>49578031
true

there hasn't been a single insult for like 20 posts until you posted though, we were just fooling around and having friendly banter

>>49574213
She's alive, though.

>>49578166
then why did djt say otherwise a few years back

>>49578171
DJT is often wrong about things.

NEW
>>>/a/279708196
>>>/a/279708196
>>>/a/279708196

hold on a sec that is NOT djt

cant name a board worse than a

djt