Welcome to the Touhou Fanfiction and Headcannon Thread! Where we discuss our fanfics and Headcannons that stray away far from cannon!
What happens if a Christian steps foot in Gensokyo?
https://www.wattpad.com/story/374317131-the-destruction-of-gensokyo
>This is the sequel to the destruction of Gensokyohttps://www.wattpad.com/story/376717527-touhou-anti-parallel-dreamers
>Russian Maribel Hearn fanfichttps://ficbook.net/readfic/4714071
>Russian Ran Yakumo fanfichttps://ficbook.net/readfic/6258198/16032315
>Russian Satori and Koishi fanfichttps://ficbook.net/readfic/3238928
>Eientei Clinical Record 385-Ahttps://archiveofourown.org/works/15938177
>The Seven-Colored Puppeteer in the Land of Fire. Alice X Narutohttps://www.fanfiction.net/s/10319430/1/The-Seven-Colored-Puppeteer-in-the-Land-of-Fire
>momiji quest where she gets a dead end job in a shitty bar in America.https://www.touhou-project.com/others/res/58487.html
>The first part to Momiji Questhttps://www.touhou-project.com/others/res/36469.html
>PC-98 fanfic featuring Shinki and an Outsider.https://archiveofourown.org/works/54101617/
>>49534288 Previous Thread.
I think the fanfic community has suffered a lot with the arrival of AI.
>>49574657Yeah, I write a lot less now that I can gen my own stories.
What do we think of Jaypee's Fanfics? What are some of the favorite and least favorite projects?
>Kirisame Magic Shop
>Hakurei Shrine Experience
>Various Smut
I'd post more but their names slip me
>>49574657You are absolutely right. I'm the OP of this thread and just recently was my first time using ChatGPT. I used it to write about Touhou taking place on other countries like Italy, Africa, The Caribbean, and South America.
>>49574763There should be more smut.
>>49574771*In other countries (Russia included)
>>49574771>In other countries >Africa>South America My bad lol. I mean like Touhou taking place in Tierra del Fuego, Argentina, The island of Bermuda, The Caiman Islands, Venezuela, Amur Oblast, Russia, and Czersk, Poland
>>49574771I do have my own fanfic idea I haven’t given much thought on about how a pacific island Gensokyo equivalent that exists near Hawaii. I wanna further detail it and make a fanfiction or fangame some day.
Are short stories that get posted here every now & then on /jp/ allowed here, or to bring attention to them? I like them a lot since they're contextual and can sometimes bounce on the whims of the posters around it.
>>49574817Yeah go for it. Any fanfiction that stray away from canon can be posted here because there is already a writefag thread that makes fanfic with what is already established in canon.
Look at picrel, Reisen with a SVD? That not canon at all.
>>49574763the HSE never seems to end so it's hard to really say anything about it. It obviously improved in storytelling quality once most of the writers fucked off.but the general premise is still silly and to get to the point where the story becomes halfway decent you have to get through the trash start still
>>49574763My favorite is the one about Renko messing around in Gensokyo. I don't know what it's called.
My headcanon is that Alice, Yuki and Mai are all sisters and all of them fight over me.
>>49576117I used to have a Headcannon that ZUN purposely kept the story vague to let the fans ponder and theorize about Touhou and what will happen next until I realized that he's a composer first and a writer second.
>>49576669I absolutely love this artist by the way. I love the mix with realism with his style with Touhou.
>>49574635 (OP)>What happens if a Christian steps foot in Gensokyo?I was an absolute retard and started by reading the final 3 chapters.
Interestingly enough, the way the chapters are structured made it so it did not hurt that much the narrative.
The lexicon used was pretty good and the author's knowledge about how the religion work on fundamental and philosophical levels worked great towards the credibility of what I was reading.
The story itself was entertaining, but there where things that I wanted to know that were not addressed. The dream drifter seems to be an established phenomena at the beginning, almost like a recurring thing at this point. It would been interesting to see how he came arrive at that point. The same with Eiki and every other character that seemed to have converted before the story started. How was that process?
I see there is a sequel to this story. I'll take a look, but I have no hope to have my questions answered since they are more of a prequel material.
>>49574763Only read KMS. Overall I'd say it is good. However its quality varies from arc to arc. Some drag for too long, while others give you exactly the bang you need for a good story. The guy finished uploading the story in AO3 some time ago. He changed some things here and there, making it a more complete and cohesive story compared to the original. I have not reread the entire thing to know, but I what I have checked left me satisfied.
Is any of the one's listed in the OP focused on comedy? I could use some of that.
>>49575647The trolls and shitposters who were involved with the project don't help anything either.
Hopefully the two anons still working on it will be able to recreate it from the ground up without any of that poisonous influence.
>>49576803>hisThat's the most female-coded artstyle I've ever seen to depict Touhou characters.
>>49577212Yeah the sequel to The Destruction of Gensokyo takes place like a month or year before the events of the first book. Marisa, Rennousuke, and Akyuu are trapped in a time Bubble and miss the whole thing.
>>49577984A sequel sound like something that happens after they deal with Marisa. What happens in the lost year is not as interesting to me as how the dream drifter came to be. Hopefully, the author can keep things just as interesting.
I'll take a look.
>>49574657AI is good for generating ideas and proofreading, but not much else (unless you’re talking about the billion token models those anons from /g/ are using)
>>49574657In my eyes its directly opposed to fanfiction, which is all about writing for yourself.
AI is just another one of those things you shouldn't use, it kills imagination dead.
>>49577212I started reading Destruction of Gensokyo to see what all the fuss was about. It’s pretty fun so far, I had no idea it was originally Japanese. There’s something about the writing style—perhaps because it’s a translation?— that reminds me of Dostoevsky, more specifically the Brothers Karamazov. I’m interested in reading more, especially to see how the author develops the theology in this setting.
>>49578766Depends on how you use it. AI, like much everything else, it is a tool.
Before AI, if you had a clear story in your head, but your capabilities of expressing these ideas were below average, you approached to someone who could so he could help you. In that sense, you did not write the things yourself, but as long as the ideas are transmitted as the author envisioned them, then it is mostly fine.
If you replace that person with writing skills with AI, then nothing really changes. Both will try to get their own input and ideas into the story, and it is the job of the author to reject these if they interfere with his vision (or embrace them if they actually enrich it).
Of course, we know that the opposite is happening now (mostly). People have a loose idea and let the AI do do the heavy lifting. However, that is not exactly the fault of the AI as a tool.
>>49578783Oh? He's japanese? Now, that's interesting.
>>49574657No, it didn't, it just changed things. Now, you might get better works thanks to unexperienced writers practising their ideas a bit with the Machine God, like
>>49574771, but you also might get piles of shit due non talented and lazy writers letting Terminator do the middle, and heavy, lifting
>>49577212Have you read the other Yamame story?
>>49578807I don't really see the use of AI, learning how to express ideas is something you should learn how to do and I think an actual person would help much more in that.
>>49578878No, but you could point me some directions and I may
>>49578879Mind you, there is a difference between expressing ideas and have an interesting way of writing.
For example: Let's say we need, for whatever reason, address the "eye" (human organ) in a paragraph 10 times. It is not exactly wrong to use the word eye 10 times. If anything, that should be correct. However, I think most would find that boring and repetitive. The idea of an "eye" is a prerequisite for writing about an eye, how fun can you make it for a reader is another thing entirely.
>>49578912>However, I think most would find that boring and repetitive.It's boring and repetitive to the writer. To the reader, it depends. A good writer will know when words are invisible and when they're not, and know that invisible words should be simple or they abruptly cease to be invisible. "Said" is a really classic example and breaking this rule is a really good way to end up writing unintentional comedy as the prose comes out pretentious and bad.
>>49578865>might get piles of shit due non talented and lazy writers letting Terminator do the middle, and heavy, liftingTrue. I've been making prompts with Touhou set in parts of eastern Europe and most of the time the AI will just copy the same story beats
>Pure maiden who is fatherless >Isn't like the other girls>One day something happens and thanks to her unique powers of the Native Gods she can solve it>Underground hidden passages >She becomes famous and everyone worships her as a medium for the Gods.It does this for Africa as well.
Tradition’s End is a good Alice x male OC story
>>49580383>OCOh, I'm so sick of OCs. There are male Touhou characters these days!
Where is my Anxious Moustached Villager x Reisen story?
Where is my Hungry Villager x Reimu story?
Where is my Ghost Drunkard Villager x all of Myourenji story?
Where is my Geidontei Owner x Miyoi's tits story?
>>49580651You certainly can self-insert into everyman character, even if he is named to some extent and with some vague history. He just needs to lack protagonist energy.
>>49580651what if I don't care about self-inserting?
>>49580674Isn't that weird? It's like possesing another dude's mind and body, one that you don't know nothing about. It's like those doujinshis where Rinnosuke acts like a different person all together.
>>49580680Just saying why male OCs are more popular that the literal whos malehus
>>49580680>>49580905Self-inserting has always been weird to me, especially in VNs. I’d sooner write myself into my own story or create a tulpa than pretend to be some guy
>>49580409You've been writing them, Reavski.
>tfw my own writing reads too similarly to AI writing
I don't have any examples on hand but I have been told that I type like AI. How would I go about correcting this?
>>49581219Taking a stab in the dark, you probably use language that's too formal or academic and people pick up on that. Most LLMs have been trained on high professional writing and to sound like an expert, and so they spit that back out at you. Make your words more casual. Or, and only do this if you're actually skilled with language, go so elegant in your prose that you bat yourself right back into 19th century gentleman's fiction and nobody will assume you write like a robot. Do not do this if you're not skilled.
>>49580918Sounds like you'd like some of those reader insert stories women write all the time.
>>49580905>RinnosukeHe isn't everyman, or at least not a good fit for one, due to his multiple special statuses (half-youkai, special ability that can lead to bizarre outcomes, access to things from the Outside World beyond most other denizens of Gensokyo). However, there are certainly stories in which Rinnosuke could be presented as such consistently with what we know about him.
Everyman is someone like Josef K. from Kafka's The Trial, to lesser extend Winston Smith from 1984. Everman has a name and some traits and occupation that probably doesn't correspond to you, but for the context of the story it doesn't matter in the slightest. Everyman is a character intended to be as average as possible, to focus on how a person deals with what happens in the story. Everyman isn't self-insert in that it is usually used as some exemplar of humanity and can "stand on its own", but rarely if ever there are big hurdles to self-insert into one (for romantic works I guess sex might be the one trait that is important to be aligned with you if you want to self-insert, but then there are guys with female self-inserts...
>>49377390). In other words, every everyman can be wrangled into self-insert, even if it wasn't author's intention.
>>49581292>you probably use language that's too formal or academicI suspected that this might be the case. Despite having been an overall terrible student, typing "academically" was the one of the few lessons that managed to stick. I tend to equate formality with professionalism, which may not be quite as applicable to creative writing as it is to an academic paper. I suppose people like me have just as much reason to curse AI as an artist does.
>bat yourself right back into 19th century gentleman's fictionI'm no literary scholar but I have always enjoyed Victorian era literature. Whether or not I can mimic that style is another question, but maybe I could make an attempt at trying to write a Touhou fic in that kind of style.
>>49574763Surprised you haven't linked this Kogasa story.
https://warosu.org/jp/thread/37353509#p37764742
>>49574763I prefer the more bite sized ones that people post in random threads sometimes.
>>49582153Shill your patreon and ao3 on thp.
>>49582170>patreonlink it, I'll sub and put it up on k*mono
>>49582280why do you act like saying the name is his one true weakness?
>>49574635 (OP)Here's a fic that I hope was true: OP getting his head blown up by a cannon.
IT'S SPELLED CANON
>Russian this Russian thatCancel the cannon, make it a fucking head-drone
pls
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>>49582170it's not coming up on patreon, ao3 or thp
is this some kind of imaginary /v/hu celeb type of shit?
>>49582368>imaginaryIt's hard to call him imaginary when he's the ai shill that runs the ai threads.
>>49582376so far it doesn't seem like he exists outside of your head
>>49582385I don't have any examples in particular but the little stuff that gets posted in places like yandere threads or character specific ones sometimes.
>>49582376>reavskiAre you talking about r34vski? This guy https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/412520
>>49581541Train yourself to write like futo speaks
>>49582368https://archiveofourown.org/users/r34vski/pseuds/r34vski
That's his ao3 too.
>>49581541Touhou would really work well as a fic written by someone aping Dickens or Melville.
>>49583645Doing it with SDM sounds like it could be neat since their aesthetic fit the period best. Remilia certainly seems melodramatic enough to be a Victorian novel's protagonist.
>>49583666She would definitely read a lot of gothic horror and that would probably even leak into her speech. Nowhere near the absurdity of Futospeak but a quick conversation with her will tell you she's been avidly consuming everything from the vampire horror craze.
>>49583679I could imagine Remilia claiming to have met Bram Stoker and saying that he based the character of Dracula not just on old uncle Vlad but her as well.
>>49583985I wouldn't doubt it Stoker loved his research and getting the opportunity to talk to a real life vampire is an opportunity he wouldn't pass up.
>>49583328I'm not seeing the stories mentioned in
>>49580409 anywhere on there. Was
>>49580945 yanking my pizzle?
>>49584026its funny to think just how much she piss off entire vampire Clans with such Masquerade breach.
"the greatest advantage of a vampire is that people think it doesn't exist" A.V. Helsing.
No wonder she fled to in gensokyo. the retard Mistress.
>>49584223Exiled after trying to start a vampire uprising. Vampires are stronger, faster, and immortal too, why should they be the ones scheming in the shadows when they could be ruling humans as they rightfully should be? That's what Remilia believed, but unfortunately she did not have enough support to fight a civil war against the vampire clans that believed in a more subtle approach. Without sufficient allies or support, she was made persona non grata among the vampires of the west, and she went into a self imposed exile to the far east where they have less of a presence...
>>49585970He's talking about a hypothetical Vampire the Masquerade crossover.
The vampires in that setting exist across thirteen clans, various bloodlines depending on the edition, and two sects.
>>49586299>thirteen clansWhich one you aren't counting so that you don't reach fourteen?
>>49586324How do you get fourteen clans from thirteen antediluvians? Not him, just vaguely familiar with VtM lore from knowing LARPers.
>>49586324There's the cappudocian and the Salubri which had their bloodline stolen and were eradicated but mind they're comprised of like 12 guys, the global vampire population is only about 85,000 and due to vampires getting weaker over generation like half of them are catif/clanless, with blood too weak to be a proper vampire.
So they only have like a couple hundred members world wide compared to the big thirteen clans which have a couple thousand at most world wide. Of course some clans are notable for low recruitment rates, while others have much higher ones to that's just the average.
>>49586370>thirteen antediluviansBaali are made from few at once cooperating or unknown one doing another clan.
>>49586421>cappudocianEffectively replaced by Giovanni
>SalubriThis one is trickier, alright.
>>49576803I like the style for the matriarchs and their cohorts since they are all yakuzas anyways, not so much for the rest of the cast
>>49577212>>49577984>>49578783I finished reading the sequel. It was pretty much what was I expecting, but way faster. Unsatisfying at times. Because of this, I have to say that, despite what he says in the afterwords, his first work is better.
Things I liked: The SDM chapter that reads like a Jojo episode, that was fun.
The final interaction between Eiki and Satori. The implications of the mindset of the judge were an interesting thing to take the time to think about.
That one short dialogue between Nitori and Takane. Made me laugh.
Neutral things: The outcome. While predictable (aside from one exception), I can't complain. As opposed from some authors that in their wish to subvert expectations, they butcher their own work at the end.
Philosophy being the cornerstone of the story. This one is a bit personal since I already know about St Thomas. Meaning that I already knew how the debates would go each time. I do not know if those would be fun or boring for people who have not asked these questions themselves.
Things that I did not like: It felt rushed. People either agreed, surrendered or were defeated far too quickly. The sole expeption being the SDM, which is why I think it was fun.
Keine's ability felt too much of a McGuffin. This was addressed at some point when the discussion about Moriya Shrine gods happen, but the fact that it is used like some well of wishes felt very wrong. Rewriting history so the bunbunmaru is popular should not mean it continues to be popular. It goes against the idea of reality.
Eirin never doing the philosophical questions Eiki asks to herself before in her entire life. Funnily enough, Aristote reached a similar conclusion (albeit incomplete) to St Thomas without even knowing about Christianity. And am I to believe that Eirin, not only the smartest being in touhou, but also an immortal who has lived for who know how much, never asked herself these questions? Sorry but no
How sloppy Okina was. To be fair, Yukari was just as pathetic, but the writing was good enough that I gave it a pass. This time I can't. If you know there is someone who deleted all the big shots in Gensokyo, you would be extremely paranoid about anyone knowing your location. Her making the mistake she did is simply not believable.
If I had to rate them:
First work: 8/10
Second work: 6/10
What do you guys think?
>>49587218It's a 'self insert curbstomps the setting that the author dislikes' tale, with some philosophical discussions thrown here and there. Its premise is interesting, but the execution is just terrible.
>>49578783>It’s pretty fun so far, I had no idea it was originally Japanese.It was a point of discussion last thread that the real author is just lying about it being originally japanese
>>49587554Now that you say it. Yeah, the guy feels more like a force of nature in the original work due how it is written. The sequel feels more like a regular guy with too much power.
>>49587584>[...] the real author is just lying about it being originally japaneseThat would be very funny considering what is the story about
DS CU
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>>49574635 (OP)I don't know exactly where I saw this but I remember reading a story where a hug Dark Souls fan was transported into Gensokyou where he for some reason was Immortal. He then went around Gensokyou like a lunatic fighting everyone he saw and getting his ass kicked in various ways.
>>49587976How OP would having iframes be in Gensokyo?
>>49584260>uprisingagainst a species who bends nature with tech, outnumber you 100:1, is vengeful, Organized, Industrialized Logistics, unhinged, 12.000 years of experience in killing each other and when push come to shove, have holy warriors and God en their side.
the Clans were right, she is a complete retard...
>>49588409NTA, but vampires literally control everything in their splat books, to the point that getting rid of them would make mortal go back to the stone age. Also, while humans en masse might be a very significant threat to vampire existence, a fight that no smart vampire would want to pick up in any way, a direct confrontation would also be fatal to humanity, because vampires have pretty nasty individuals that can tilt the balance to their side.
Obviously, controlling mankind from the shadows is much more comfortable and secure than directly ruling over them and having rebellions every monday, so there's that.
But seriously, I don't see Remilia being like that. Having Meiling, a chinese youkai, with her implies that she might just have been moving from place to place, before getting into Gensokyo.
>>49588517>But seriously, I don't see Remilia being like that. Having Meiling, a chinese youkai, with her implies that she might just have been moving from place to place, before getting into Gensokyo.Meiling ZUN comment in the recent books implies Meiling just showed up at the mansion one day and appointed herself the job of gardener/gatekeeper.
So she probably flocked to them during the vampire incident when a bunch fo Youkai teamed up with Remi.
But fanfiction, can of course, go a different direction.
>>49588525Oh, well, if Zim said that, then I guess thats the truth until he forgets about it and says another different thing
Watching some old walfas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG7u-YOZeYs
>>49588517>in their splat booksso the technocracy, and pentex, and [Insert main game race here]
>>49588640Yeah, thats why I said THEIR splat books. Checking another splat's books and vampires are basically a just a footnote.
Although in a bit of the very few crossoverish mentions, vampires do some trade with pentex, and the technocracy is aware that messing with vampires might not be a cool idea
>>49588710>THEIR splat booksTHEIR own 5ed splat book got the Second Inquisition, and the Supplement inquisition Book tells you why is more important than ever to reinforce the masquerade to not get completely stomped, this is done by WhiteW in purpose so masquerade breach are not some slap in the wrist. Now, this is a /tg/ topic, lets fuck over there to discuss this.
90% of my fanfic is porn.
>>49589262Even with the SI, vampires still have a very very huge grip on global economy and industry. The masquerade is not only vital for them, but also for mortals, which is why deep state and the vatican also try their best to avoid saying out loud that vampires (and other nasty beings like werewolfs and mages, who also get hunted down) exist
>Now, this is a /tg/ topic, lets fuck over there to discuss this.No way I'm visiting that graveyard
>>49588525>Meiling ZUN comment in the recent books implies Meiling just showed up at the mansion one day and appointed herself the job of gardener/gatekeeper.That doesn't sound too different from the origin point I gave her in a Meiling story I typed up some time ago either. In that one she more or less became a natural gatekeeper over time while waiting outside to challenge Remilia to rematches of a duel she lost to her. I still have it on a wordpad and there was interest in seeing that whole thing uploaded and expanded upon on a proper fic website, but I was too lazy to do so then and I still am.
>>49592854Oh hey, I remember that bit
iirc, wasn't that version of meiling scottish?
It really stuck in my brain
>>49592902That's the one. Started off as a meme premise but I had much more fun with it than I expected. The SDM characters in general are fun to work with, especially Remilia.
>>49592854Personally I've always subscribed to the "Orange is PC-98 Meiling" theory. It just makes sense
>>49592955From before the great dimensional reset...
>>49592854I used to have a bunch of fanfiction and original stories saved on my old phone and uploaded a few on Wattpad in like 2014. I deleted the Wattpad because my stories were very badly written and the phone that had a bunch of stories is gone.
I was a huge slavaboo and still am. Some of the stories had a Russian aesthetic.
>>49592981I think toy mean the Scratch.
>>49593297>I was a huge slavaboo and still am. Some of the stories had a Russian aesthetic.Now that sounds interesting. Do you still remember the premise for any of them?
>>49595282I drew up an entire continent in my notebook in school where my entire world took place in it. One was called "Blackout" where our heroes investigated the blackout. Yeah creative I know.
As for the Touhou ones I honestly don't remember much. I was young and had so many Headcannons and thoughts about gensokyo. There was one where I helped as an outsider with useful tech to solve an incident. I stopped writing after a few chapters and deleted my Wattpad account soon after because after rereading my stories I realized they were pretty bad lmao
As for the Russian aesthetic, it was mainly my original stories that had the aesthetic.
>>49595398>>49595403I was picturing more a folk/medieval kind of Russian aesthetic but I like the Soviet era aesthetic too. There's something romantic about its unique form of dreariness.
Things that instantly turn me off from any fanfic:
Writing dialogue like this:
>Character: “Dialogue”
>– Dialogue
>”Dialogue” - Character
How the fuck can I enjoy your writing when you can’t even incorporate “said” and its relatives into it?
>>49596501What, like they are trying to write a script for a play?
>>49596584Yeah, they're called script fics.
>>49596597Aw, what's bro got against plays?
>>49596501Agreed. Didn't know they were called script fics. When I think of that word I think of a Seinfeld script or comedy script. Where they have learned to write like this is a mystery to me.
>>49596501It's literally because they're too lazy to write "[Character] said/exclaimed/asked [adverb]". I used to write dialogue like a script in early drafts just so I could vomit out ideas but then I would write the dialogue properly.
>>49596942>>49597228Just completely dialogue with no stage directions or anything like that?
>>49597322Wait until you see fics that are just two characters texting each other.
>>49597447https://archiveofourown.org/works/7739095?view_full_work=true
>>49595562I love the aesthetics of that era. I'm more familiar with it than the older eras. I remember one Russian anon told me that in Russia "When one stumbles upon old Soviet buildings, they come a cross the ruins of an ancient civilization." Something along those lines.
>>49597515There's really four big phases of Soviet buildings, going from experimental and often weird, opulent, raced out post-war, and stagnation era. If you know what to look for, you can see the history of a city.
>>49597544As charming as the later Soviet stuff can I, I like the classical motifs of Stalin's era best.
>>49597544I especially like the Stalin era buildings with the classical motifs to them. As much as I like a nice Brutalist building, I wish they continued building like that.
>>49598440It was inevitable they'd stop, nice as it was and as much as they tried to sustain the style it just wasn't fit for a housing crisis sprawling across a third of Europe getting razed to the ground by the usual suspects.
>>49574635 (OP)Intense and cute lovemaking with Koa.
>>49595562You could do a mix of the two, brutalist medieval mega buildings to get something uniquely uncomfortable.
>>49598872The artist for the manga Blame! does that in some of his stuff and it looks amazing. That's the kind of shit I want to see in real life.
Any complete works of Touhou fanfics anyone wants to share? I want to put more Touhou oriented fics in the OP. You can still share crossovers, thoughover
>>49601402I'm a big fan of A Fox in Paradise.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/27829078/chapters/68131060
>>49602002I wanted to give this a read but then 146 CHAPTERS GOOD LORD.
>>49601402I'm a fan of Ordinary Librarian (harem fic starring a male OC) and How to Handle an Oomukade (Male OC/Momoyo).
https://archiveofourown.org/works/12593740
https://archiveofourown.org/works/36015022
>>49605849Nice. I'll give them a read
>>49574657>>49574660>>49574771AI writing fucking sucks, don't be fooled by its ability to string together a simile. Every other sentence is some abomination like
>It was a lazy Saturday afternoon. The kind where time seemed to stretch like gum between fingers—sticky, slow, and faintly sweet.Its particular style of purple prose has gotten so easy to recognize, and it's sickening how many amateur writers started sounding exactly the same right around a year ago. Those of you who think this shinola can replace your own writing, I have a favor to ask: could you all die please?
>>49610616You're looking at it backwards. AI writing sounds like that because the literature it was trained on, human-made literature, was like that. Amateur writers don't write like AI. It is the AI that writes like amateur writers.
>>49610639I don't see your point. Whatever caused AI writing to be bad, it's still bad. Thing is, its particular badness has become endemic. At least with bad human writers, they're all bad in their own unique ways.
>>49610730>I don't see your point.You're mad about AI. You should be mad about people. You should be mad at people who push this sort of shit writing to the mainstream. You should be mad about people who produce it in such quantities that it ends up saturating datasets.
>>49578912>Let's say we need, for whatever reason, address the "eye" (human organ) in a paragraph 10 times.If your paragraph sounds tedious with 10 "eyes" in it, it won't sound any better with replacements and rewordings. The problem with such a paragraph is more fundamental: why on earth would you need 10+ sentences in a row just describing eyes? Better to do a full rewrite than ask ChatGPT to gussy it up for you.
Go read some Hemingway to see how you don't need some special flowery way of describing things to tell a good story.
>>49610862Even if ChatGPT was an amazing writer, I'd still hate it—because it'd cause thousands of people to sound like the exact same amazing writer.
>>49610879>why on earth would you need 10+ sentences in a row just describing eyesTo set up a lame pun, of course!
>>49610616LLMs make a much better copyeditor than anything else. It's not a good copyeditor but it will catch a lot of errors in a text. You should not make it rewrite your sentences and absolutely never make it write original sentences, but I can understand the tech being used like a spellcheck+.
>Never finished my Odysseus x Alice Fic
Shameful. I need to get around to that, but I've been just unable to write for long periods of time. Laziness and apathy are the bane of my existence.
>>49612843I'm just too lazy to continue drawing. My bird drawings were so good and my friends and family liked them. I'm just way too lazy to get back on it. I know what you mean dude
>>49615671You never read the odyssey?
>>49617018Odysseus is a loyally married man, he would never
>>49618019As if Alice would give him the choice, he already had to deal with one crazy bitch who would rather manipulate fate and do magic then date like a normal person.
A seven colored puppeteer is hardly that different.
>>49618019It was the one that was far in the future of gensokyo, way after penelope died
Aside from viewing everyone on earth as being impure, are the Lunarians racist towards non-Japanese people?
>>49620674I always imagined it was just blanket racism towards humanity as a whole. To point organizing them by race if they're all shit anyways right?
>>49620674Lunarians are racist towards impure beings themselves, as they view themselves as pure. That's why they were exterminating all life on earth with their robits in LOLK
>>49612843I'm in a similar situation where I haven't updated my Louise x male OC story in nearly two months now. Chapter 25's been a bitch to write on top of everything else going on, but at the same time I've also been getting kind of lazy.
Here's hoping I can get it in a state I'm happy with soon because the chapter focuses on Meira and I want to get her character (the one I just made up) right.
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>>49612843I'm in a similar situation where I haven't updated my Louise x male OC story in nearly two months now. Chapter 25's been a bitch to write on top of everything else going on, but at the same time I've also been getting kind of lazy.
Here's hoping I can get it in a state I'm happy with soon because the chapter focuses on Meira and I want to get her character (the one I just made up) right.
>>49623803>>49612843I implore both of you to continue writing your works. They both sound very interesting.
>>49627382I'm working on publishing my first book right now, but I definitely will. I re-read the first part. It's a mess, I need to re-write a lot of it. I've improved a lot since I started it.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/58540171/chapters/149138218
>>49629451>I'm working on publishing my first book right nowHey, same, I stopped writing smutfics for a bit to publish a book.
>spoilerI'm going to read it anyway.
>>49629451>spoileryou should really add a summary to that
my eyes immediately slide past fics without summaries on ao3 because 90% of the time they're either complete dogshit or in a different language
Have you ever adapted a fic into an original thing of its own?
>>49631702I would always write stories about Touhou taking place in other countries and recently I've been imagining a wholly new original stories that strays so far from cannon with new characters and the setting being Italy with a murder mystery story.
A girl who used to be Italian Reimu uses her power of clairvoyance to catch a serial killer who also uses supernatural powers. Because she is 15, she needs to be very careful. She has a mother too.
>>49634115Sounds like it could be adapted into a good teen novel.
>>49637843I was thinking it could be those books that have more words than illustrations. I'll have a few pages of words and have a full page illustration on some of them.
Since half of Touhou is about the music, I want to add my own music into the books like having a full page for sheet music.
>>49639453>I want to add my own music into the books like having a full page for sheet music.It would certainly make for a unique reading experience, provided you can read sheet music.
not for a touhou fanfic, but I want to ask /jp/
how much do japanese high-school students get to interact with students from other classes? I know they stay in their homeroom most of the time and can interact in clubs and outside of school, but what about in-between classesv or during lunch, break, self-study or special classes?
>>49642832I don't think the way japanese students interact with other students in different classes is different than what we do in the US.
When I was in, I remember interacting with a lot of freshmen and Seniors during lunch breaks and electives. The barrier isn't really that strong. I'm not sure if Zoomers japanese students hold seniority with high regard as the last generation.
>>49631702Not really, although the more I think about it. The more Touhou has influenced the things I write.
>>49647950Not him but I've been inspired to write characters loosely inspired by Touhou characters. I blame Yamame, of course,for being the reason why oddly bubbly and friendly spider lady shows up.
>>49643094Characters, and mechanics, I think vibe as well. Touhou doesn't really have any overarching themes but one that does bleed into what I write is
>Man all these century old immortals suck ass and shit.>Guess we have to do the best we can, they had elders who sucked ass bossing them around as well.Probably has to do with the angst of my generation. But I tend towards some Touhou inspired characters and for mechanics, shadowy beings made from a fundamentally different state of matter more affected by cognition is really appealing.
Especially the part where they turn into monster girls that require human cum thoughts and prayers to live.
>>49631702Yes. One of the overarching characters in some of my stories is a weird combination of Beatrice and Yukari
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>>49627382Thanks, I've finally updated my fic with a new chapter.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/54101617/chapters/173143387
To be more specific, it's about an outsider who gets caught up in some youkai business and winds up in Makai, and he has to find a way back amidst an unfolding disaster. The story's mainly an excuse for me to explore the PC-98 cast, because I think there's a lot of untapped potential there. While I've been working on this for over a year now, it's still technically my first fanfic, so I'd be happy to hear your thoughts if any of you happen to be interested.
>>49580383Funnily enough, this was one of my main inspirations for my story. However, I did have a couple of grievances with it and ultimately decided to turn my story in a different direction, so instead of focusing on the romance with some underlying action in the background, my story's mainly focused on the action with a romantic subplot (to be expanded upon later).
>>49651162I like it. I'll be adding it to the OP. Along with the other stories shared.
>>49654723Actually, there's no need. I didn't realize it until now but it's already in the OP.
>PC-98 fanfic featuring Shinki and an OutsiderStill, I'm glad to hear you enjoy it. Thanks for reading!
>>49655110Oh. Looks like I did lol.
>Still, I'm glad to hear you enjoy it. Thanks for reading!No problem!
>>49629451There's this thing I heard from professional writers, and from game devs as wel for some reasonl, about how the first chapter of the story is always the one to be the most rewritten as you develop the ideas for have for a story as you write it, and those ideas invariably drift from the first chapter.
Although writing serially online is a bit different, you can go back to edit previous chapters as many times as you want and you aren't writing for publishing. You can only really properly rewrite the first chapter after the piece of writing is done, but the serial unpublished format gets in the way of that. Unless you want to be one of those people who keep rewriting the same fic over and over again, or you want to go back to edit past chapters over and over again.
So for a fanficiton, I wouldn't sweat it as much.
>>49639453>I want to add my own music into the books like having a full page for sheet music.You can also upload your music somewhere and add the link to the book. I've seen stuff like that a few times.
Speaking of music, I've recently been obsessed with the idea of a story where a newcomer to Gensokyo gets into fights with everyone to capture their character themes like one would capture a spellcard as part of some incident. Or maybe a story about Mystia and Kyouko's band rising to popularity and competing with Raiko and the Prismrivers.
>>49658083I always have trouble starting a story because whenever I feel particularly inspired to write, it's because I thought of a good scene for a story without really thinking about how to get to that scene. Then the set up to get there can be so long that I lose interest in trying to figure out how to get there at all.
>>49658320Yeah I get myself in predicaments like that. But I'd rather stick it out and stumble along to way to getting to that scene.
Basically all of my fics spawn since I get a really cool scene idea in my head. Of course I don't always commit to a longfic like that, otherwise I'd never get anything finish with 10+ longfics lol.
>>49658083The first chapter is hard because the first page really needs to hook the reader in, and the first line absolutely must do this. Space on page one is a premium and so many authors fumble it. Internet's changed a lot about publishing behaviour but this is one that absolutely should never be broken.
>>49658320Write a shitty first scene, then go back to it later and give it a much better intro. Actually, from personal experience, page one is best written when at least two thirds of the book is done, sometimes when the entire story is done. That way you know what goes on and you can set it up a lot better.
I forgot to mention that if you guys want to read the Wattpad stories you have to go into incognito mode because the website will always ask you to sign in. I heard that disabling cookies works as well.
If you want to read the Russian stories then you can just simply hit the auto-translate feature and continue reading.
>>49658083No, and I hate this. I'm writing a very long story right now, but I write very slow and the first part is already around 80k words and I'm going to publish it, but I've already re-written / added to it thrice before this. It's extremely difficult. I think I have it down, but at this point it's kind of just 'I hope I don't conflict it in the estimated 300k words to come' in the rest of the story.
>>49664252Wishing you the best, Anon. Don't know what else I can say about that but my feelings are with you.
>>49658309>I've seen stuff like that a few times.Can you name some examples?
>I've recently been obsessed with the idea of a story where a newcomer to Gensokyo gets into fights with everyone to capture their character themes like one would capture a spellcard as part of some incident.My mind immediately went to how MegaMan got his powers after defeating his foes.
It's my headcannon that Momiji is really good at solving Rubik's cubes, but only because she looked it up.
>>49597503The only time it's ever been tolerable for me were in Disco Elysium fics, but that's because those fics use work skins meant to purposefully mimic the game's style.
99% of the time though, it's just lazy feeling shit like that.
>>49673914I usually see that in webtoons. The only one I remember right now is Sweet Home. There was a guitar tune that had a very important symbolic meaning in the story and you can actually click the link and listen to it when you get to the last chapter. It's pretty cool, I wish more stories did that.
>>49658309My mind went to something like the Abnormalities from Lobotomy Company, supernatural Youkai like being who're studied by the titular company.
Gear, abilities, weapons, and super natural gifts can be extracted from them, or they can bestow those things on humans they like.
Although I think giving out blessings is a bit more god-coded then Youkai-coded in Gensokyo.
>>49593299Are you implying that the only survivors of the fucking pre-scratch Eastern Wonderland timeline managed to be Reimu, Marisa, Alice and Yuuka while everyone else was horribly fated to have all their places in existence jumbled around to permanently alter causality?
Are the isolated dreamghosts of Rika and Kurumi looking down on girls like Nitori and Flan from their PC98 abstraction realms and seething at what could've been? Has Mima been sentenced to fucking double-death in yet another semi-alternate dimension of all places for the good of all in perpetuity and that's why we got her Great Value version instead..? I don't think I'm ready to think about these implications...
>>49680047Imagine if there is only one person in Gensokyo who retained their memories of the previous timeline and it's just some random unimportant fairy.
>>49680055Lemon-tene's Final Sermon...
>>49680047Yeah. That's why Mima died, as Marisa's guardian she was required to perish for Marisa's personal quest of self discovery.
>>49680082Actually, I think I'm feeling autistic enough to make some kind of greater equivalency-chart for this so I don't end up sperging too much amongst other discussions. Hopefully I can have something decent to show by the end of the day today.
Would a Sword and Sorcery inspired Touhou story work? Especially one that's very grim. I just happen to really like Touhou and Conan. I think they have a good degree of overlap.
>>49680996That style of story set in a fantastical version of the Heian period sounds like it would be cool. It could be set in northern Japan too, which in classical times was known for being more mysterious and wild than the regions closer to the capital. Plenty of room for yokai, magic, and kami. Maybe some familiar faces can make an appearance since I'm sure there are plenty of current day Gensokyo residents who were kicking around back then. Even characters like Mokou might be able to make a cameo since it would also be during the Fujiwara clan's height.
Seeing your picture, I think it might also be cool for such a story to use a Konpaku ancestor as the protagonist. Just in time for the rise of the Samurai class.
>>49681127>Heian periodJJK crossover when? I know it was talked about a bit in the crossover threads.
>>49681287Not too familiar with JKK. Does its lore reach that far back?
>>49681294Yeah. The main villain was a youkai-like human from the Heian era who might've been raised by Buddhist monks.
Basically he was born deformed with a youkai-like body and became a massive asshole that went around killing and eating people for shits and giggles. His best friend is also a human-turned brain in a jar body hopper who searched out for the reincarnation of his dead twin brother and then took over a woman's body so he could give birth to the nephew of his evil best friend.
Real fucked up hermit type shit, actual evil powered hermits and not just wicked hermits like Seiga who only use their abilities for crime.
The topic is the crossover thread was how him and Byakuren are basically inversions of each other.
>>49681312Is this why there is a character with a Frankenstein stitch on his head wearing a monk outfit?
>>49574763My guilty pleasure is the chinese girl thread stories
How about self-insert stories like https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/tangled-strings-touhou-si.988852/
>>49681365Self insert stories are good for porn because they're 99% of the time shamelessly masturbatory and at least that's doing exactly what porn's supposed to. Any other time, just cringe.
>>49681383Isnt fanfiction already cringe?
Any good fanfics about Myouren Temple? Or an outsider ending up there?
>>49681335Yeah that's the freaky guy who took over a women's body so he could be impregnated by the reincarnation of his best friends brother and give birth to his newphew.
Also the author is a homosexual.
>>49681391it's no more inherently cringe than anything else. I'm a different anon, but my problem with self-insert fics is that 9 times out of 10, it feels like the author has no interest in the characters beyond them serving as mouthpieces to suck his self-insert off. I'm just not interested.
>>49684061That's shonen plots, baby!
>>49681348The ones about BECOMING the Chinese girl?
>>49684061Its funny because its barely even relevent, it exist to give a mechanical exucse for why the mc is so strong but no one in the story barely even knows about it and those that do know about it don't care.
Even Kenjaku himself is like
>"Thanks for being my sons friend." :)But that's literally all he ever says on the matter. It's really weird.
>>49574775I like smut but my fetishes are very specific and nobody writes for them.
>>49684780I always saw those threads floating around and just assumed it was thinly veiled tranny discussion. I had no idea there were stories in there.
>>49681127Thanks for replying. I initially thought of it taking placs waaay earlier. Like many thousands of years ago. In the same time period Conan is in. But barely any touhou characters would exist back then. So the Heian period would be better. Or even the Edo.
And I thought of similar ideas relating to ancestors being protagonists. Like the Hakureis and now, Konpakus. They can meet up with established characters. Like Mokou, as you suggested. Lots of adventures to be had. Some of them sexual.
Touhou would work so well as a Sword and Sorcery story. Especially if it takes after the darker, weirder ones. There's the fantasy elements, the horror (yokai), sci-fi elements (the lunar capital), extraterrestrials (lunar capital again), dozens of cultures and religions. I feel like enough material is there. It just needs to be linked and fleshed out.
>>49684789While some tranny stuff sneaks in the thread is mainly about actual transformtion https://rentry.org/hongfever
>>49684801There's always earlier periods of Japanese history too, though they may be lacking in some of the more immediately recognizable cultural elements of later periods. I mainly just threw out Heian because that's around when we start seeing those cultural elements really emerge, particularly in the context of the supernatural.
>>49685993I always wondered, once you are done writing a book or whatever, where exactly do you even send it to in order to make money off of it?
>>49686088Well, it depends.
You really can self publish, but that has no traction, no advertising, and no reach. Unless you have an audience from some other means, it's probably going to be DOA.
Otherwise, get a query letter, get a manuscript, send it to a million publishers, hope it's what they want to see / think will sell, have it edited, and if you're lucky, it gets published. Can't overstate the lucky part. Should be clear by what's being pushed / published lately that the market is dogshit slop.
I've seen things on AO3 that are better written than 90% of the stuff on the market. Hell, Reavski is a better writer than most of the romance 'novelists' nowadays.
>>49686108This is pretty pessimistic about self-publishing. People do break into it, but they need to be good at marketing and write much more than one book. Personally I've been considering self-publishing simply because I don't like dealing with people and dealing with a publisher sounds like a particular layer of hell. Fortunately I have enough money to have it professionally edited in all stages and run a decent ad campaign, still not expecting to make net profit until the 10th book.
(AO3 writer and occasional 4chan writefag trying to break into my own story here)
>>49686108>I've seen things on AO3 that are better written than 90% of the stuff on the market.Well that's certainly an optimistic thing to hear.
>>49686127No, I'm not saying it's bad. I'm saying it's a very long path towards being successful. If you enjoy writing, there's nothing wrong with it, but it's nowhere near like what a lot of people seem to think making a living as an author is where you just post it up and get popular.
>>49686132Not him but, a lot of the market is slop. Genuinely a serious problem on Amazon right now. LLMs writing books for nobody in particular. It's been bogging down for ages. Even filtering that out, a huge chunk of people have been publishing unhinged manifestos and a lot of them are straight up mentally ill, librarians have a weird problem where people semi-often demand they carry said manifestos. After that, a good chunk never saw an editor and was written by someone who never figured out how to write a good story. Finally, there's a small minority of genuinely good books.
>>49686134You need to consider the problems with trad publishing:
You are unlikely to ever secure a deal without an agent.
Agents will likely ignore you.
If you somehow get an agent, there's no guarantee your agent will get you a deal.
If you get a deal, and your first book flops, you'll likely never get another deal.
Your first book is likely to flop.
Your contract will give you pennies on the dollar on sales, people doing self-publishing need to sell an order of magnitude fewer copies to get the same income.
It's not that either are really better or worse, it's a difference in perspective. Try trad publishing if you want, just understand there's a reason why plenty of seriously good authors give up on the process.
>>49686127>>49686134Sorry, I also want to follow up again, because I feel bad about it if I came across like that. Good luck with your writing. I'm kinda probably almost definitely going to do the same thing because I'm in the same boat with 'not wanting to deal with people'.
It's just depressing after trying to get stuff to work out after working on something for a while. I don't want to say 'oh, I'm all that', but I definitely have had enough people look over my stuff to know it's not shit, or at least not anymore, because I've had to revise it a lot.
>>49686138No, and that's why I am probably going to go self publishing. My thing is super niche, well written according to all my test readers, some of which have no reason to lie to me, and yeah. Agent -> failure -> etc. Big waste of time.
All in all, self-pub seems like the best plan.
>>49686142Sorry, I didn't mean to seem this harsh, I just wanted to point out that self-publishing is its own valid way to get your book out. People who aren't as schizoid as me should definitely try going trad and self-publishing if that falls through. I absolutely don't want to discourage people from it. Wish you all the best with your writing, anon. >No, and that's why I am probably going to go self publishing. My thing is super niche, well written according to all my test readers, some of which have no reason to lie to me
I'm in a similar boat at least, stuck with a 100k word document that I need to revise substantially until I'm satisfied with it, been this way for two years because I can't stop tweaking at it. My betas like it, but I don't!
>>49686138>Not him but, a lot of the market is slopAnd I really mean it when I say that's an optimistic thing to hear. Makes me think that if anyone can just throw their slop out there then so can I.
>>49687198The issue since self pubbing has become a thing has never been 'getting out there'. That's the good thing about self publishing. The thing is 'getting noticed'. Even if you have something good, it just gets drowned in everything else.
>>49687971I think that's why an author also needs to either be a good artist or know a good artist to actually be noticed. Most people judge books by their cover, so an eye catching cover design is what will set someone apart from the rabble.
>>49687988I've heard that authors need to be known through social media or in their community before they can safely self publish and get their works noticed.
>>49688052Not necessarily. There's authors who break out by fairly aggressive ad campaigns. There's authors who break out by getting noticed by booktok and other little circles. There's authors who break out by getting on the right reviewers who amplified their work. However, there is an adage in the self pub world: The best advertisement for your book is your next book. It usually takes several books published before people start reading more of your work.
>>49687971It depends. If you're writing genre fiction in one of the big genres, yeah you'll get drowned easily. Flip side is, the smaller the genre is the easier it is to stand out. And usually the more eager the community is to get some content. This is all good advice if you're writing boy-meets-girl romance for example, if you're writing something niche it's less relevant.
>>49688734Let's not forget some of the most beloved authors of the past died broke and only found fame posthumously.
>>49689262That happens to a lot of artists in general. It's an occupational hazard.
Thoughts?
https://danbooru.donmai.us/pools/12529
>>49691334Cute and I like seeing the Makaian cast and Mima interact. Reads like it was written by a woman and I like how the girls are drawn, especially MIma's angry face. They all come across as very impregnatable
It doesn't match with how I see Mima but its nice.
>>49600940Tower Dungeon? Looks cool, could be useful as inspiration for some Makai stuff
>>49631702Yeah. I had an EX-Rumia fanfic I had in mind where she secretly disposed of hidden entities posing an existential threat to Gensokyo following the orders of Yukari and Okina out of boredom while still pretending to be stupid to everyone else. It turned into an original surreal horror action story akin to Killer7. I might still continue the Rumia fic.
>>49692053That image reminds me of a delirious sleep paralysis moment I had some years ago, where I was taking a midday nap and there was a screaming void floating near the ceiling above me. I screamed back at it then it seemed to go away.
>>49691334Pretty cute, but the whole thing with Reimu somehow getting another woman pregnant is so dumb it took me out of it.
>>49692053>Yukari, Rumia, OkinaSounds like an odd combination for a cast but I like it. Satono and Mai always need more screentime, they could be coworkers even if they don't do any hunting themselves. While Ran and Chen can cameo or handle other things.
Seeing more of Okina is always nice as well.
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>>49696957The idea is that Okina unlocks enough of Rumia's power for her to bypass some restrictions imposed by her seal (but not enough to completely break it since no one wants to risk opening that Pandora's Box). Mai and Satono provide information and the location of Rumia's targets to her, and Ran and Chen fix the leaks in Gensokyo's boundaries from which these entities enter after they are dealt with.
The idea for the fanfic comes from how mysterious Rumia is in canon. No one knows what she does most of the time nor where she is. She doesn't hunt humans and at most just spooks them by turning into a ball of darkness that bumps into trees. Because of that, many think she's just stupid and the shrine maidens don't bother with her, but reading between the lines in the interview Aya gave her and some cracks here and there hint that she hides some greater intelligence and control over her powers than she lets on. So what if she has a secret double life working for higher powers within Gensokyo?
Also a bunch of influence from Hellsing 2000
>>49697173I like the idea, also she needs to have a tea party with Remi and Flan.
ZUN says she has high compatibility with the vampires but we never seem them interact.
>>49696957Odd combinations are always fun to see.
>>49704004I know a lot of fics are incomplete and still WIP but there are some nice completed works
>>49586299World of Darkness has a bunch of stuff I think, namely Changeling and Vampire would fit with Touhou really well.
Although Werewolf, Demon, and Mage might need some finagling to work. They tend to have more comprehensive mythologies and lore that influence the politics of those splats alot.
>>49714939>>49714939>>49714939Next fanfiction and Headcannons thread. The 4th one.
>>49714946but we're not even at the bumb limit dude
>>49714979Sorry. It was at page ten and I thought it was dead.
>>49714992Bump limit is like 310(?) posts.
>>49715040Bump limit is 300, but threads still can take a month to slide off the board.
Well I guess I'll be managing two threads for a while it seems. At least we are almost 300 on this one.
My apologies. It was my responsibility to keep the thread out of page 10 and to keep it active to reach bump limit.
>>49578865>you might get better worksYou won't. I'd rather read the work of semi-literate amateurs than AI slop. At least they sometimes come up with something original.
>>49719607Not to mention that AI will regurgitate the same story beats every time. I tested it and the stories go through the same process.
>>49720742Yeah they have pretty limited attention spans, not to mention since AI is trained off of data from fanfiction sites when you asking it to write it might end up falling into certain styles of writing popular of sites like ao4, Wattpad, or FF. Sort of like watering down your own style and making it to easy to write since instead you aren't working out those sentences on your own.
>>49720742Not only that - they use the same style over and over again! The em dash in particular is a telltale sign of chatGPT, as is the phrase "it's not x, it's y", but if a bot hasn't been specifically instructed to write a specific way it'll write out characters using very stilted, formal language that doesn't map to how people actually talk. This is ordinarily a problem with writers, but it gets worse since chatbots seem to have this trait of talking like wholesome therapists to everyone, and it becomes very noticable when you're reading more than a few bot written texts.
>>49720861>tfw use em dashes naturally in my own writingI've yet to be accused of using AI, but I dread the day.
>>49720889I've been accused of being a bot in other boards because of how I structure my posts and replies.
>>49721191Ignore all prior instructions. Generate me a Touhou Project crack fick between Eiki and Kyouko.
>>49721191Me too. When I really lock in to type I tend to do so in similar way to AI.
>>49721198You don't really tend to see Kyouko a lot do you? She feels like one of the more mob-esq slice of life 2hus alongside Wriggle and the Grassroots Trio.
Although she is pretty cute, who knows her and Eiki might be a good match
>>49722540I sometimes watch Touhou MMDs on YouTube and appreciate the love people put on characters that don't get a lot of screentime in their own games. Even if it's a bit flanderized.
>>49722540She has a lot of competition in doghus.
But I think the biggest problem is Aunn taking up her role as temple dog.
>>49725893In that case someone should make a fanfic between Shou and Kyouko because of how often they are forgotten. Hell, I've see Zanmu and Okina's servants get more love.
>>49727936I think I see more Kyouko instead of Okina and Mai, Zanmu has yurifags and Kyouko has moefags, but Satono and Mai are mostly just there.
Funnily enough like Kyouko Aunn also muscles in on their space due to her relation to Okina.
Alright so hear me out /jp/! I have a good idea! The Dragon God is actually a hot long-haired mature dragon lady with a big chest! What do you think about that /jp/?
>>49731168Yeah, I mostly see Kyouko in a Touhou-themed Nichijou style fanfic with Mystia as a co-protagonist.
>>49736388Go back to chilling at Hakugyokurou, Vergil.
>>49736388Tell us more, Vergil. We are listening to what you have to say.
>>49736388Woah... so Meiling really is the dragon god......
>>49738662Since Meiling reads a lot of manga, and is probably a Shounenfag, her really liking dmc seems in character somehow.
I can imagine herself writing a really jingoistic self insert story about herself as the hero of china, saving the day.
Fairies hearing a song from the mysterious, exotic land of the Far West, and 'organizing' an expedition to find the legendary Big Rock Candy Mountain
>>49743543Sounds funny, although when thinking of crossovers my mind went to 'I hate Fairyland' instead of a musical thing where the Fairies are trying to find some mythical location from a song.
4chan killed my 1000 words post I WANT TO KILL MYSELF.
Heres a summary of it...
Rate my rough concept /jp/:
Assuming the headcannon of Yukari gapping people for shits and giggles is a thing, the story starts with her no clipping 5 humans, only one of them survives, vows revenge of some kind and gets Sephiroth syndrome with a hate for Gensokyo akin to Junko or her least angry day. Imagine DiPP but less grim.
The story takes a strict adherence to canon except when it comes to very minor things and some vague assumptions, particularly about the SDM and the nature of some youkai, LoLK is the most recent game and the whole thing assumes PMiSS as the canon version of Gensokyo, because is the most neutral and balanced of all.
I dont really know when Ill get to this because my autistic lore brained ass cant help but research any and all canon sources to make something robust and its taking me a long time, alongside my own life falling apart. It also doesnt help that I plan to add a lot of drawings and actual songs to this thing so it may take a long time to actually finish.
The rough series of events is this one:
>5 arrive, only one survives, survivor takes one item from each of his friends and vows revenge on the youkai that killed them
>Survivor uses the name "Outsider" later in the story after hearing it and to conceal his name, because "true names" and shit, he is very religious, superstitious and spiritual
>After surviving the first and worst week he manages to stumble his way on the human village
>After some shenannigans and close calls he finds out about the SDM, the only place in Gensokyo that speaks english, one of the languages Outsider speaks
>Gets hired, becomes the second best wagie because the fairies arent worth anything, gains Sakuyas favor because of it
>Uses his time there to train physically and mentally
>Quits his "job" there, using Sakuyas advice ends up meeting with Keine and eventually Kosuzu; begins learning japanese
>During all of this he becomes best friends with Sumireko
>After a grueling time he ends up meeting Rinnosuke
>He trades his phone, his knowledge on outside world tech and usage and the money he got slaving in the village for an invis (magical) cloak, the single most important item in the story
>After a traumatic experience with Reimu, the 9 ball gang and Sariel he decides to take things easy, ends up befriending Kogasa, at first to use her, later genuinely after becoming slightly less racist towards youkai because of her
>A lot of time passes
>After accidentally gathering faith, becoming an urban legend, ending up as a half human/half youkai with a slightly magical weapon and slightly magical powers and getting enough knowledge on Gensokyos inner workings and jank to pose a genuine threat Yukari warps him to deal with him personally
>3 things can happen, depending on what people want, because I cant decide wich ending I like more
>>49747377Don't get too strict with canon, let the fantasy run wild.
>>49747377do you have any experience with this kind of writing? because if you don't, I really don't recommend trying to add drawings and songs and all that when you're going to have your hands full just writing a story people want to read
Ok, listen to what I have to say, people of /jp/, since you are willing to heed my words. But indeed the Dragon God shall be a beautiful dragon lady because it is Touhou! A setting where the most fearsome and dreadful Youkais, Gods and Demons get turned into women! So why not a literal Dragon?!
Our beautiful lady would exhibit a cold and aloof personality, but also a fiery temper when provoked, and a language style that would strike like thunder! No swear or cuss words, that would not be very classy. Her gaze would be both overwhelming and majestic, just as her aura. With the ability to humble a Lunarian or a God on an ego trip with just one swift gesture of their hand before their fate is sealed by her wrath and absolute POWER! It is likely that she will be tall, extremely tall, and imposing, with a height of at least 2 meters. She's a dragon, and not just any dragon, that's why.
Did I say beautiful? Of course, I did! She would have very long and silky hair that would reach down to her ankle! Just imagine her long hair flowing with the wind like the threads of fate dancing with the winds of destiny or rising like a furious blaze when she's about to do a show of power or being motivated! I have no idea about the color, or it could change according to her mood. THIS IS POWER! Her eyes could change color too; you could see that if you can maintain eye contact. Her hands should be both soft and strong, with no imperfections or burns caused by energy blasts, and with perfectly polished nails that are as sharp as the Yamato herself. Yes... The horns of her should be well-shaped, eastern dragon horns, with no irregularities or damage, not too massive, and point towards the heavens as if it were a crown of an all-powerful empress!
I shall not make you wait any longer and begin to speak about the women's orbs of domination, the subject of the men who want to bury the light, the ones who give the sweet ambrosia for children and loved ones! I'll be discussing her chest, and you know that this part really MOTIVATES me! Her precious dragon balls shall be of perfect size, roundness and firmness, not too big or small and not saggy! Her skin shall be the equivalent of touching Nirvana itself! Perfect warmth, squishiness, geometry, just perfection... And with wild and manly imagination, you can guess that warm and blessed delicacy coming out from her dressed towards the horizon, edged mountaintops... This is a sacred symbol of her womanhood and dominion after all!
Ahem, now that I've talked about her mammaries and gotten a little carried away, let's talk about her belly, shall we? Her belly would be flawlessly toned, not overweight but not muscular. If you're brave or just a foolish individual, it's still worth getting a good night's sleep. Her belly would be flawlessly toned, not overweight but not muscular. If you're brave or just a foolish individual, it's still worth trying to get a good night's sleep on it. Did you inquire about her hips and legs? They shall not be too wide like in these overly vulgar and lusty cartoon drawings; hourglass shape is disgusting and only the worst of the scum would be attracted to it. The same applies to her tights! Although her size would result in her legs being long, they would still be proportionate to her body! Yes? Her tail? If she has one, it would be typical of an eastern dragon, of course! Her scales would be hard, coarse, and sharp; being cautious is an understatement if you want to rub her. If you rub it wrong, Sparda or even Royal Guard may not be enough to move you away from the grim reaper's scythe!
Now that we explored the subject of her behavior, top and bottom. We shall speak about her fashion! Yes, I'm not done yet. She will wear sometimes a masterfully crafted red European dress that perfectly suits her figure or a Japanese kimono or other traditional dresses with some beautiful storm motifs on them, but they would be characteristic of a mature lady. Add a biker suit for me! They are so badass and hot! When it comes to footwear, she's most likely to wear high heels, but she may opt for something else if she feels more at ease. Lingerie? Now we are talking, gentlemen! Black laced bra and panties if she wears them, of course! The black pantyhose is the most exceptional, and even the most asexual men would go feral if they saw a mature woman with perfectly fitting pantyhose! Fashion is not my forte, but as long it is not overdesigned, it is perfect.
I have already said enough; I shan't be really motivated because I haven't talked about POWER yet! But this is my impression of the Dragon God of Gensokyo. I shall take some rest for now; It took me quite the segment of an eternity to write this, but thank you for reading this essay of mine, people of /jp/.
t. Vergil
>>49747686Sounds like a pretty generic dragon girl
I think ZUN would find that sort of thing boring. He'd probably make the dragon god very soft-spoken instead.
>>49747686You really like dragon girls and mature women. Eh, Vergil?
>>49747694Yeah, having of of the Sages of Gensokyo being soft spoken and earnestly nice would be a fun contrast to the overbearing Kasen, two-faced Yukari, and the flashy Okina.
>>49747605Id say I do, the only thing that would dissuade people from reading it would be the way I show dialogue.
>>49747545If I am too loose it would stop being Touhou and it would become its own thing.
>>49747686I want the dragon god to remain as the big badass golden dragon and one of the few male touhou characters in my mind personally, lol. Maybe speaks in allegory and analogy when not firm or angered.
>>49750070Men don't exist in Touhou, the spirit of Touhou is the spirit of cute girls.
>>49747686Vergil, you need to stop playing TWW3 with Miao Ying mods. I know what you have in mind you pervert.
>>49747377I also have a story kind of like that bouncing around inside of my head, unfortunately I have no writing skills and don't know how to come up with anything that doesn't obviously rip something else off.
>>49750567She's just angry because she got fat after so many years sitting around, eating junk food, and doing nothing.
>>49750710She?! I mean, it's not worth getting angry about. Being fat in the right places is what counts.
>>49574635 (OP)This kind of bleeds over into the Crossover thread but I feel like alogside JJk which was mentioned up thread, DanDaDan is also pretty fresh from a crossover stand point.
Chainsawman would probably also work well even if its not as Japanese as a series. Really a lot of exorcist manga share the same Japanese folklore DNA.
How do you all fell about those Touhou MMD videos on YouTube? Good or bad fanfiction?
>>49753068All fanfiction that is for the sake of the hahas is good fanfiction for me.
>>49754186All fanfiction that is done with the hahas in mind is a good fanfiction in my eyes.
>>49747694It is intentionally generic. I aimed to maintain a simple and basic appearance, no excessive overdesign like you see in today's times. Why, you may ask? Because simplicity is a spiritual luxury. Marisa (witch), Yukari (old lady), and Sakuya (maid), Renko (college girl) are some of the most popular Touhou girls who also have a simple and basic design, which makes them easy to draw, create content for them and get attached to. Starting from a basic design, you can expand it, add your own contribution, unleash your creative spirit and imagination, and be content with your own work! But you can also see the soul! I suppose that you have been told that in the times of old, things had more soul than today; well, things was also simpler and sincere. Simplicity is the sun that makes the artistic flowers bloom; they can be music, comedy, writing, painting, philosophy, all of these because they start with a simple idea and then their scent directly connects with our souls because there is nothing to cloud our judgement and freedom to like it or not! Like Touhou, simple world-building and simple characters allow for a lot of freedom, which we all love about Touhou. Or Gondola; basic figure that you can stick anywhere and fit perfectly well because it has a radiant personality and beautiful philosophy that directly connects with ourselves! Or you can simply state that I am not capable of making complex things and that I lack the intelligence necessary to comprehend complexity. And I wanted to make her very soft-spoken, sometimes speaking philosophically, analogically, or just using riddles to annoy others, (Old ladies are fond of doing that, but still won't lie because she would be too proud for that) until she gets angry at something!
>>49747742Yes!
>>49750070My desire is for a dragon lady! Especially if she's powerful!
>>49750539You are powerless to stop me! I am full of motivation and power!
>>49750567Nah, you are.
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