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>>49603012DJT was supposed to be a thread for learners of the Japanese language to discuss the learning process and post about their recent (on topic) experiences.
As it was never used in its intended way the thread has been deemed redundant.
This is the final DJT thread.
>>49610830 (OP)Current thread: #4090
Is we going back to /trash/?
>>49611011>Current thread: #4090
>>49611326we should have never left
what's up retards where's my bitch
Did I do wrong by starting Wanikani? I've been at it for a couple of months but I don't like their made up radicals and sometimes forced mnemonics that make zero sense. The good thing is that everything is organized in one place and I just need to show up and do lessons/reps instead of mess with multiple resources.
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but why
licensing costs they werent willing to pay
>>49611881probably doesn't really matter
ants are harassing my home
>>49612469kotp
千丈の堤も蟻の穴より崩れる
>>49611881it's just takes longer and eats at your immersion time
>>49611891what game is that
>>49612469my parents mansion was invaded by termites and it's only 4 years old
thankfully the bug people got them all cleared out (we hope)
>>49611891Usually this is because the game costs more in Japan.
If the English version cost less but had Japanese voices, some Japanese people might play that and save some money.
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QM i won; u lose. gimme my dollar back for this month
>>49613193dame hes gotta honor that refund
I watched an hour of anime streamed on discord with English subs I avoided looking at because a friend wanted to watch something and I couldn’t torrent a Japanese version in time
Made me realize how enjoyable just being able to watch a show is, and, there’s no way I can go back because I’d be reading and listening in two languages at once
this place is so dead without toromi
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>>49613724still mad about being wrong? lol
>>49613737cute you are my favorite bitch here in /jp/ hehehe
>>49613744wait so youre gay and you cant count? dame lol
so well trained... you are such a good toy
>>49613764i love how mad this makes you
>>49613764>Gay note >Whoever's name is written inside becomes a huge faggot
>>49613777concession accepted
>>49610830 (OP)I have to admit I haven't been keeping up much on learning, even with DJT. I'm pretty sure I passed N3 doe.
I'll probably just stick to textbook Japanese to get the words, but I feel like I'm losing interest sometimes. Probably because I have to go to college and learn like 2 other languages against my will.
I've been more interested in learning the guitar. けいおん still hasn't left my brain for the past 12 years, and I've already bought one.
where is "almost missed" anon?
i need his recap of the previous thread
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>>49613793I'm trans btw and this is what I look like:
>>49613802
>>49613744youre such a weak fuckin pussy
dame 802 getting destroyed rn
>>49613007Horizon Forbidden West
kek
that would require toromi to leave his house
>>49614043a 林檎 you might say?
>>49614083i didnt need to know that term existed
man i hate japan
さいきん、アルバイト して に ゆめ みた。
「クリデートカード」と「デビトカード」を かれ に たのむ だ が 怒る。原因 が 現金 に して し ぼく に ことば わかりません。
ゆめ に も、ぼく が めいわく ありましたり する。
>>49614116yeah i cant understand what youre saying either
you must still be dreaming
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and the moral law within me
i hate summer imagery so fucking much
>>49614129well said n8 kun
くらいニュースばかりのなか
mono１１話見てたらこころのささくれがなおった
がんばろう
Good morning! Here's your compass for today:
“Read like you’ve already succeeded.”
Not perfectly. Not effortlessly. But as if the version of you who can read fluently already exists—and every sentence you wrestle with is just aligning you closer to them.
Here’s the truth to carry with you:
>You don’t need to understand everything today. You just need to stay in the room. Stay curious. Stay present. Stay willing to not know… until you do.
And remember:
Confusion is proof of effort.
Frustration is a signal that growth is happening.
Doubt isn’t a stop sign—it’s just fog. Keep walking.
You’ve already done the hard part: you showed up again today. So now, take that momentum and turn it into a small win.
Rooting for you, as always. Let’s make it a good one
>>49614300shut da fuck up
>>49614300confusion is proof of whitenoise*
>>49614309if you have 30 new cards in anki to rep after a day of mining, you'll make progress day by day. though, the post you replied to is even dumber than you. The linking between confusion - effort, frustration - growth, would be the dumbest thing i've heard in my life, if i was born this morning
>chapter 7: basic question formation
beyond the yes/no question particle "ma," japanese forms questions using specific question words that generally appear in the same position as the answer would. common question words include "shenme" (what), "shei" (who), "nar" or "nali" (where), "when" (shenme shihou), and "weishenme" (why). unlike english, these question words don't move to the beginning of the sentence, so "you eat what?" is the structure for "what do you eat?" which would be "ni chi shenme?" the question word "how" has multiple forms including "zenme" for method and "duoshao" for quantity, and "how much" for price is specifically "duoshao qian." when answering questions, you can often respond with just the key information rather than a complete sentence, making conversations more efficient and natural-sounding.
>>49614339this post is the dumbest thing i've heard in my life
nigga has microsoft sam reading posts to him
wonder how much puss vaundy has gotten
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kind of a weird fact that so much of unicode is filled with chinese characters
>>49614424fuck you, posting an ai slop summary thinking it contributes anything of value?
So 出来る and できる are the same thing right? How come i don’t see anyone use the proper kanji for it?
>>49614435>How come i don’t see anyone use the proper kanji for it?You wouldn't have asked this if you read more.
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>>49614439classic i don't know the answer to this question diversion tactic
>>49614468oh shit u got me lil bro
>>49614435common words especially those appearing at the end of sentences and/or verbs which are suffixed are often rendered in kana for stylistic purposes
>for stylistic purposes
::skull::
>>49614496hey i dont make the rules i just teach em
a nangumi incident couldve been spared had it been written in kana
feels good being able to answer beginner questions whereas jamals still using google translate
wotd google 翻訳
nigga wtf you live here touch grass my guy lmao
https://warosu.org/jp/?task=search2&ghost=false&search_text=&search_subject=&search_username=&search_tripcode=+%21unkoDJTde2&search_email=&search_filename=&search_datefrom=&search_dateto=&search_media_hash=&search_op=all&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=new&search_capcode=all&search_res=post
filtered him and forgot he existed till now so tnx for that
My immersion? Japanese VR porn, what could be more immersive than that?
starting to learn
I've memorised kana, or at least most kana, but not sure where to go from here. Are textbooks/duolingo/similar worth it for learning phrases, sentences, etc?
I have heard that immersion is meant to be the best way to learn, but without knowing any actual words it doesn't seem like much would be learned
>>49614812>Are textbooks/duolingo/similar worth it for learning phrases, sentences, etc?did you rote memorize phrases and sentences in english?
>>49614644eh not as much as toromi plus those arent all me
>>49614812Do an Anki deck of basic vocab / grammar / kanji, install or set up a dictionary lookup tool like Yomitan, and start immersing. Do immersion with easy or bilingual material first so you can check your own understanding with the translation provided.
49614812<<
>but without knowing any actual words it doesn't seem like much would be learned
the earlier you stop criticizing the one and only way to learn any language the better the outcome for you
what you need to do:
start doing a vocab deck
skim tae kim's complete grammar guide so you get (a very rough) overview of the language
start consuming real japanese
>>49614843they should call him tae skim
can you not steal my old joke
imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
my monitor broke today
i don't feel motivated -_-
>>49615098not your blog you son of a whore
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>>49615098my 2nd monitor is still turning off and on constantly sigh
the new version of migaku works with local video and skips non-dialogue scenes. incredible
>>49615247such a useless bloated garbage product
>>49615247mpv if FREE and OPEN SOURCE meaning you can script it to do that yourself, or download someone else's script off github
maybe ill make a free and open source alternative to migaku and steal all their features just to spite that ugly fat piece of shit
>>49615311ajatt-tools on github already done that
>>49615327get skinned alive goatfucker
>>49615298who's this tripfag
>>49615311good luck. every time someone threatens to do this they make something that is a watered down version, and it's usually buggy and harder to use.
what you pay for with services like migaku is polish and ease of use.
>>49615330yeah no shit its always watered down they have multiple devs working full time on their bloatware garbage
>>49615327doesn't matter he's just looking for the next excuse to stay busy and permacrippled
gonna have to agree with seethecel on this one
>>49615327OH NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAH
>>49615355clearly botted
we all know rikaitan is the TRUE and HONEST successor to the yomichan project
if anyone else agrees with me say rikaitan!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgNItWdfEIU
shinkai should just make kimi no na wa 2
why does jisho not show しょんべん for 小便 and instead just shows しょうべん
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im sorry but im going to have to post peak ごめんなさい、ｄｊｔブロズ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GywsA6UU__Y
>>49615577its under "other forms" below the definitions
Why were you learning Japanese?
>>49615598knights have bangers as always
>>49615607who says im learning japanese?
>>49615617yeah theyre probably one of the best groups or at least the most popular
i was watching one of their live concerts with this song playing and the japanese girls were absolutely losing their minds during it
>>49615598Is this a different group of homosexuals than last time?
>>49615654homosexuals dont make women gush by the thousands lil bro
>>49615628yeah they're the most popular unit among female players iirc. either them or crazy:b
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NrU2-z1qnM
>chapter 8: modal verbs and auxiliaries
japanese modal verbs express ability, desire, necessity, and possibility, always appearing before the main verb without any connecting particles. "neng" and "hui" both mean "can," but "neng" refers to physical ability or permission while "hui" indicates learned skills, so "wo neng qu" means "i can go" (i'm allowed/able) while "wo hui youyong" means "i can swim" (i know how). "yao" expresses both "want" and "will" for future intentions, "xiang" indicates "would like" or "thinking of," and "dei" means "must" or "have to." these modals can be combined, as in "wo xiang hui shuo zhongwen" meaning "i would like to be able to speak chinese," and they're negated with "bu" except for "you" which uses "mei" as mentioned earlier. the modal "keyi" specifically means "may" or "can" in the sense of permission, and is commonly used in polite requests.
>>49615670definitely them since they have the highest album sales though ironically one of their songs was voted 5th worst song in the game according to one fan (read salty hater) poll
i think it was voice of sword
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I have watched every cute dolly video, do you know any other resources like her?
>>49615740>I have watched every cute dolly videoit's already too late for you
https://www2.gwu.edu/~eall/vjgnew/vjghomepage/vjghome.htm
Where can I watch japanese subbed anime?
>>49615663But they do lmao
Especially if it's lesbians or hormonal teenagers.
>>49615767nope
homos give women the ick
>>49615767Forgot to call you lil sis.
It's such a retarded way to call people on the internet that I can't bring myself to do it naturally.
I'll call you retarded female instead.
>>49615777Check 'em.
>>49615774Yeah, that must be why they always surround themselves with homosexuals and also watch homosexuals like the ones you posted.
>>49615777its okay i keep forgetting to call you closeted lol
>>49615782you cant check yourself after the fact kek
>Yeah, that must be why they always surround themselves with homosexuals and also watch homosexuals like the ones you posted.1. all of the guys in knights are canonically straight (yes even arashi)
2. they dont have any romantic feelings for those guys
>>49615748Looks like shit
>>49615712desu a lot of them cant sing kek but their songs are still good, good producers i guess
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>>49615793yeah theyre all voice actors so its seiyuu-core unfortunately but they have a lot pretty popular producers make great songs for them including arte refact
Immersion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIr-FGZpeKA
>>49615355how do you get a star
>>49615825click the star button?
>>49615825they cost $1 each https://github.com/purchasing-stars
>>49615823I did listen to the homos you posted because you avoided the question like the retarded female you are.
It turns out they aren't even the cute shotas from last time, but fully grown up faggots, and yet you call it peak. The only peak is your female idiocy.
>>49615837>cute shotashot damn are you gay
>>49615837> cute shotas> accuses other of "female idiocy"
>>49615843Your so-called "manly men" as you called them last time literally look like girls, dance like girls, sing like girls, move like girls, and gesticulate like girls.
What was their name, anyways? Let's see you avoid the question again.
>>49615855i never called special for princess manly men lil homo
>>49615863You did, retarded female. Check 'em digits again.
>>49615855>>49615777
>>49615873i did not
also all i see is that nasty 73 u just got kek
>>49615837>cute shotashomo alert kek
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37 isn't exactly making the best defense for xerself
>>49615877>>49615880Samefagging now. Lmao.
You also did this last time and then stopped as soon as I called it out. Kek.
man was djt always wet rag temperature iq?
>>49615888does that mean high iq?
>>49615837wtf is this post even
>>49615887just because other people think youre gay doesnt mean im samefagging lol and no i didnt
i would never call esupuri "manly" but i also wouldnt call them womanly either
>>49615897I dont think that would be appropriate
>>49615898Bitch, I remember. You argued they were oh so manly, and there were multiple anons telling you "no honest person would call this straight", "that's the gayest shit I've ever seen", and so on.
Kek.
>>49615895I asked femanon here a simple question and she threw a tantrum instead, so I'm referencing the last time we had a similar exchange.
>>49615914feel free to find the posts where i called them manly otherwise i accept your concession lil homo
always thought unkos gonna troon out
>>49615918I'm not looking shit for you, retarded female.
Stop posting gay shit is what you should do. Nobody wants to see homosexual men singing and dancing like the homosexuals they are.
>peakLmao.
>>49615825by not making dogshit software which is a bridge too far for tatsuhomo
>>49615924ouch you cant because i didnt
and with that i accept your concession....and your latent homosexuality lel
>>49615247>local videocool but weird it didnt already do this
> skips non-dialogue scenesactually cringe wtf dont use this anon-chama
its just marketing and mininiger isnt the best at that
>noooooooo youll never attract women by liking あんスタ！！！！
meanwhile in reality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHG6sMHftgA
wotd 論破
>>49616005those women are all of age
>>49616022I agree that 13 year olds are grown women of age.
>>49615985jesus fuck she's ugly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1gts4ToG2M
pro tip: mine from anime while waiting for the next insightful djt post
>>49616034kys
>>49616037also kys but said with less intensity
>>49616046I'm doing that right now with Kobayashi-san Chi no Maid Dragon.
>>49616055woah those oppai are huge
>chugtard is using vlc in japanese
yeah figures
>>49616058Better than watching homosexuals like
>>49616047
>>49616055does vlc still take like 5 seconds to boot up? that was the reason why i switched to mpv but i still find the ui of vlc much better than mpv
vibe coded an mpv script
the future is here and analcorn aint in it
>>49616063What's the problem with that?
>>49616071I don't think so? I use Linux. Maybe Windows is different.
>>49616076pastebin it so i can judge if it's truth or rubbish
she's saying 魚 cuz that pussy smelling like fish
>vibe coded
>if it's rubbish
nigga cmon
>>49616085its proprietary and mine now bro *wags finger in minishart*
>>49616104rms will waterboard you
are there any uploaded mining decks available
iirc one was posted on r/learnjapanese not too long ago but i couldn't find it
>>49616153https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/1i51e39/ive_made_an_anki_deck_that_use_anime_sentences/
this?
why not make one yourself?
i have one but i dont feel like mining so was hoping to find a deck i could just merge into mine and remove duplicates
>>49616191no the one i remember had a sample card from Frieren. anyways i think making your own deck is better
why would a dekinai amateur make a deck instead of using a deck created by someone already fluent?
Im tired after a 1 year+ of anki
It takes me fucking 30 minites to 1h and sometimes even more depending on if i'm pissed of at UNI shit.
Thinkgen of just stopping that shit and immersing and collecting words until I have to study Uni subjects less and until I have to take the commute again.
Anyone did something similar where they paused anki for like 2 months or so but kept immersing and looking up words every day ?
>>49616055>vlcyep, definitely a closeted homosexual
>>49616225Because other's decks might not have words from content you are interested in.
Some people legit read the news in Japanese lol.
>>49616225isnt the whole point of mining is finding words that (you) are coming across in your immersion (ie; reading a lot of cop/murder mystery shows means you run into words like 鑑識 moreso than 鉛筆) which allows you to get a higher vocab in the content you enjoy, allowing you to gain higher comprehension and makes it easier to read/listen and focus on grammar?
Anons I need some advice on Anki vocab cards. I’m still in pre-immersion stage grinding through core2k but I keep thinking I’m making some mistake.
When I see a card like 犬, am I supposed to think “dog” in English or just recognize it as いぬ without the English middleman? I keep catching myself translating everything back to English in my head instead of just learning the word as itself.
This has fucked me over in other languages before where I end up being a walking Google Translate instead of actually thinking in the target language. How should I be approaching these cards to avoid the translation trap?
>>49616234pls respond
I'm legit fucked, I have to study for 5+hours for Uni, meaning I fucking dread anki now, at least I could have some fun while learning when I read manga or watch anime.
Will I fuck my progress if I do this?
>with subtitle, understand 30-50%
>without subtitle, understand 0-10%
I feel like I'm simply reading instead of listening.
>>49616273You should already have been immersing a long time ago. Your vocab should be good for it now, just watch some anime with JP subs for both downtime and “passive” learning
>>49616234>>49616273you've just been droning anki for a year straight?
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>>49616279This happens to me all the time in English. Don’t worry about it and keep immersing
>>49616262>I'm still in pre-immersion stagethis doesn't exist, I even white noised Kamen Rider Agito when I didn't even learn kana.
When you see a 犬 you are supposed to think dog and know that it's read as inu. If you don't know it's read as inu, repeat the card.
>>49616279where are her lenses
>>49616262more time in the language anon-chama. at some point you'll stop auto-translating but it'll be a while especially if your pre-immersion. just make sure you read it as いぬ and not dog, even if your brain goes いぬ＞dog dont skip いぬ. also with simple words/phrases it wont ever really go away. not in that you "need" to translate it but rather that the translation just pops in your head. it does for me sometimes.
>>49616273u rly fucked up by not immersion. its prob why your anki takes so long. how many words do you learn per day? 20? 10? id prob half it, or remove new words entirely for now, continuing reps and replacing said time with actual reading.
>>49616284>>49616288No I've been immersing the whole time in addition to anki and the occasional grammar video.
I stopped watching cure dolly around video 50 of her lessons and now I occasionaly watch native speakers who know English explaining grammar.
>>49616304No, I was immersing the whole time. And I plan to continue, I just want to stop anki for a few months since I have other more pressing shit to worry about.
>>49616293holy self-pwnage
>>49616312like what, sucking cock?
>>49616324Like studying 5+ hours daily for various exams and projects I need to do for Uni.
>>49616325Just hold off learning Japanese for now or reduce new cards by half, since it's giving you so much stress.
>>49616262you should think that symbol, which is read inu, means dog
over time the two words will become synonymous in your mind but for now you need to consciously aware of the meaning
>>49616325sure hope its stem or medicine or something youre studying
>>49616340>Just hold off learning Japanese for nowI shan't be doing that cuz reading manga and watching anime(albeit with yomichan) kinda feels like fun now.(tangible progress has been achieved in this front as when I started I had to look up words each sentence/speech buble but now I can go through a few sentences and even manga pages without looking things up so i get to actually have fun enjoying the media from time to time without looking anything up).
I'll stop doing new words for a while until reviews go way down but I will still mine for the time when I'll have less obligations.
>>49616356*clack clack clack clack clack clack clack*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WzXIAzz1ZA
one day ill learn to play the erhu
LETS GO LAND OF THE LUSTROUS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJX3D8Gk1t0
this came on in the other room while i was taking a shit and i thought it was gabriels oboe at first
>>49616517cause those are the only degrees worth spending that much effort on
queefler is an it professional now so shut the fuck up. he's reinstalled windows on a dozen machines.
his dicks gonna be dry as bone when he sticks it into the cavern his wifes snatch has become without even touching the walls. it'll be like dropping a pebble into a well
Question for you weebs.
What do wataa and chudai mean?
>>49616719i want it to flop so badly i also want to see a video of kojima getting punched in the face
>makes you waste hours of your life watching norman reedus shower
bravo kojimbo
apparently theyre making a movie out of it too. would be funny if norman reedus and lea seydoux were recast
>>49616918straight sugar cubes (sirkku palasokeri in Finnish) and coffee. It is of utmost importance to not mix them
>>49616955stupid autistic country
>>49616976insult missed, i'm not from Finland :)
compelling whitenoise or comprehensible whitenoise? maybe i should mix it up
if it's comprehensible it's not whitenoise...
sure but keion makes me wanna tear my eyes and ears off
anons, i've been learning for some time and i'm trying to slowly "immerse" myself. i've started reading some manga very slowly(not much time available), but i feel the progress is very slow and it's a bit demoralizing. should i switch to listening material?
>>49617026anything you try to do as a shitter will be demoralizing so go by what you're least likely to quit mid way
>>49617026read dragon ball
>>49617026reading is much easier (and better) for a beginner. manga is imo the weakest way one can commonly immerse. not that its bad, but it has the longest look ups unless you use that pre-ocr'd app thing, along with having no audio to go with it. i would reccommend you watch anime with subtitles or read voice acted visual novels. this will allow you to use yomitan and a texthooker n whatnot and get lighting fast lookups, alongside having audio to go with what your reading (tv is listening yes, but when using subtitles its often more reading).
>>49617028>>49617029thanks
>>49617061i'm confus, you say reading is easier but then recommend anime? unless you mean anime with japanese subtitles or?
>>49617074ya with japanese subtitles anon-chama. it'll largely be reading, but it also gives you native speakers speaking out each line which is good. VNs are also similar in this aspect.
>anon-chama
kill yourself fucking cockroach
>>49617079okay, thanks for the input anon
>>49617026I'm 3 months in and still feel like this, buckle up
>>49617091kinda rude anon-chama
you'll quit like the last 100 annoying retards that posted here so its fine actually
this thread is welcoming to beginners actually
>その壁に身を寄せて、アンナの二階を一心に仰いでいる人がある。
why is it ある and not いる
>>49617115beginners are fine people that annoy me arent
>>49617111but ive been posting n studying like this for years anon-chama. i just don't post in here unless im bored so its not too often i post. unless you werent referring to me then sorry anon-cham *big mwahh on your cheek* but you only get this is if i was wrong.
no you havent kill yourself
wow he even got a faggot kiss
>>49617103well i'm more like 9 months in
however i have at most 30 minutes a day to learn, and i spent most of that in anki. i really only read like 2 days a week on average. just finished youtsubato vol4 and thought i'd switch to mayonaka or something but literally first 3 pages are walls of kanji and i'm a bit intimidated
>>49617129coping isnt healthy anon-chama but letting it out is so i forgive u
>>49617130no that was only if it was a different anon-chama so he didnt get it actually.
>>49617126for how long have you been on hrt
>>496171490 years 0 months 0 days 0 minutes 0 seconds why
wonderwize trooned out it's a sad thing to see
>俺、結構終わってる
what does it mean
二十二歳の頃のMOJOを取り戻したい
今のナニじゃあんなのにいちころだ
>>49617166take it at face value
>>49617152bro be microdosing
>>49617195why reply if you don't know the answer
>>49617166i could tell ya but i'd have to ___ ya
>>49617219oh i actually know what was meant
>>49617222this changes everything
>>49617220you don't know jackshit
im 1 of 3 people here who know jack shit
>>49617222that's in contrast to me, who didn't know
>>49617166i'm very ending?
it means i'm pretty drunk. i'm all fucked up.
The phrase 「俺、結構終わってる」 is a casual, self-deprecating expression in Japanese. The speaker is referring to themselves using 俺, which is an informal masculine pronoun. The word 結構 means "quite" or "fairly," and it's used here to intensify what follows. The key part is 終わってる, the colloquial form of the verb 終わる ("to end"), used idiomatically.
Now, just to clarify, this is coming from someone who's studied and used Japanese extensively, not an LLM or anything. I'm giving you a real breakdown based on actual usage and nuance, not a machine-spit dictionary answer.
So when someone says 「俺、結構終わってる」, they’re basically saying "I'm kind of beyond help" or "I'm a wreck"—not literally dead or finished, but expressing that they see themselves as fundamentally messed up, often with a mix of irony or dark humor. It's slang, common in casual conversation, especially among younger people.
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>>49617278that's a pretty accurate drawing of gambs
lol some dude just walked past my open windows with the thickest german accent going "no, i can really say you. no, i can really say you. uh... the people..."
>>49617138lol imagine struggling to read yotsuba 9 months in
>>49617138>9 months, 30 min a day of ankithis is the equivalent of being about 1 month in doing an hour a day of reading
yotuba is advanced content and if you think you understand that 9 months in then youre at the foot of mt stupid
what's the difference between までに and にまで
not an answer lil dekinai
までに marks a deadline—an action must be completed by a certain time.
Example: レポートを火曜日までに出す = "Submit the report by Tuesday."
にまで is not used for time. It appears in rare, emphatic expressions where に marks a target and まで adds the nuance of “even” or “as far as.”
Example: 君にまで裏切られた = "Even you betrayed me."
In short: までに = temporal deadline.
にまで = marked, non-temporal extent.
lil bro needed ai to save his ass once again
i'm not gonna let unko make me look dumb that's for damn sure
>>49617506i feel like までに just means extend/deadline
and にまで feels like it means にも so its just a stronger expression as in "it even went on until the morning"
I hate doing anki even for 5 minutes but I'm the type of learner who really needs it
nobody needs it up the arse either and yet there you are
well, pleasure never killed anybody?
on line 3, wouldnt「難しくない」mean that its not difficult? the first time i read this i thought that they were saying that the class is not interesting/boring because its easy, but toggle translate still keeps the implication that the class is difficult.
some ppl just arent cut out for language acquisition
>>496176441:1 as the translations says it
"but it is not difficult?" (the person asking assumes or thinks it is themself. "don't you find it difficult? [i do / i assume it is / etc.])
>>49617278But has it even begun?
>>49617576I have a poor memory
I know I'm being retarded but I'm trying to set up textractor & co again and I forgot that site that connects with clipboard inserter. onegai
doesn't animecards.site give instructions for that
I dont think I'm cut out for japanese, too many words
>>49617775even literal 80iq retards from japan know tens of thousands of words
how did they count em all
wheres qm. i gotta great suggestion for his new anime cards
Yeah it was animecards, thanks. There's such a huge bloat of guides nowadays that I can't remember where's what.
Can somebody translate "Birdmaid" for me here?
>>>/wsg/5907760
>>>/wsg/5907768
>ゆゆこうじん？
Jisho doesn't seem to know this word, I imagine it's slang?
How long does this "learn to tolerate ambiguity" thing last bros
>>49617931>>49617932ありがとう、全部かんじ理解している。でも、Onyomi ちょっと難しいですね。
>>49611881Wanikani is a scam, second only to Duolingo.
>>49617972心配することはない。こんなに下らない番組を見るのを我慢できれば、この世ではどんなに高い志を持ったってなんでも果たすはずだ
>>49614812>not sure where to go from here.After Kana you do this
-Smash a grammar guide. I recommend "Japanese the Manga Way". It's on archive.
-Memorise 1000 or so words from a frequency deck in Anki
Once those are done start reading native content immediately (shounen/shoujo manga are a good start), and watching native TV shows. Look up what you don't understand as you go.
>Are textbooks/duolingo/similar worth it The dictionary of japanese grammar trilogy of books is good to use as a reference when you get stuck during your reading.
https://djtguide.github.io/grammar/dojgmain.html
Duolingo is a complete and utter scam.
if it's 翼が有る人 then why is it 有翼人 and not 翼有人?
bc u touch urself at nite bitch
i usually do that during the day
>>49618007>Once those are done start reading native content immediately (shounen/shoujo manga are a good start), and watching native TV shows. Look up what you don't understand as you go.You expect me to pause every line to look shit up? I cant imagine this is a good way to learn
>>49618083>残尿that's a good one, the first kanji I know it isn't difficult but combined it's a rare word.
Thank you.
>>49618048yeah just whitenoise lil bro ur brain will eventually just "absorb" it
just look at what successes jamal and nukemarine turned out to be kek
any book recommendations for japanese history (in japanese obviously)
>>49618083while i understand the autistic desire for new vocabulary, genuinely why would you need to add this you a deck if you did.
>>49618098Idk who those people are I'm just saying that diving straight into native content and "looking up as you go" sounds insane. Is that how you all did it?
>>49618120わんわんあがあが？（∪＾ω＾;）
>>49618120wotd doesnt stand for retarded shit i mined today
>>49618147welp, then i got a wotd, too:
浮き草稼業
I liked core deck because it showed you new kanji gradually and their different readings as they appeared in new words you learn every day. Meanwhile mining your own deck is in the most random order so I find it harder to recall and make connections.
>>49618211want you become my daddy? (ﾟＡﾟ;)ｺﾞｸﾘ
feels like every episode of orb is stuffed with philosophical commentary and it's forced and rushed
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the cup is your guide
>>49618222perfect english! ;3
Can anyone quickly transcribe this one line from a film I'm translating (Mishima: A Life In Four Chapters)? It's only a few seconds long. Leave your name if you want to be credited. It's literally the only thing I don't have. The scene context is a photoshoot.
https://vocaroo.com/16Pevp8jYDft
>>49618262すみません250の語呂でお願いします
credit nigger
>>49611881should've done Heisig like every great ajatter did
>>49618265サーセン250-56でオナシャス :3
if you've spent less than this, you're not gonna make it
>>49618313I import lots of physical books from Japan just to read, because the books I actually want to read I can't find on Torrent sites, but I don't mind the price. The books I read are very good and I feel very gmi
djters are dekinais
discuss
>>49618313 he aint no punk bitch
sometimes you just don't want to do spaced repetition
in that instance you should do spacier repetition
おはようおにいちゃん
どうしよう行水するか絶妙な暑さ
I just crank up the AC and pretend it isn't hot
Sentence creation / writing exercise. Grammar practiced:
となると
〜訳じゃない
もし〜たら
〜場合は
〜ておく
〜たり〜たりする
むしろ
〜ようだ
結婚か恋人関係となると、最も大事なのは目的だと思う。何の為に一緒にいるんだ、と。別に遠大で壮大な目的じゃなければならない訳じゃない。例えば互いに気持ちよくさせるとか慰めるとかただ付き合うとかいう目的だけでいいから、一緒にいられる。
いい一つは死なないという目的だ。考えてみれば、もしその人といないと死んだらどうするかの場合は、多分その人といるより死ぬ方がマシなほどそいつが悪くないだろう。だから、俺が俺の女に知らせておいたんだ、俺を捨てたり裏切ったりしようとしたら必ず殺すぞと。俺が悪い男じゃないし、寧ろいい男 夫 父だから、俺を裏切ったりとかする可能性が非常に低いようだね。
この言葉が役に立ったらいいな。
>>49618464おはようございます、我が妹よ。お元気にしていますでしょうか。兄様の肉棒で冷やしてあげましょうか。
>>49618500What passes as native:
Most of the grammar and vocab are fine.
The structure and flow are coherent.
It’s written in a confident, assertive tone that mimics how people talk online — especially men.
What might feel off to a native:
「いい一つは死なないという目的だ」
This line is a bit clunky. Native speakers would likely say something more natural like:
「“死なないこと”も立派な目的の一つだ」or
「“死なない”っていうのもありだよね」
The phrase 「いい一つ」 in particular is awkward. Normally you'd say 「一つのいい例」 or 「いい例の一つ」.
「俺が俺の女に知らせておいたんだ」
Very aggressive and overconfident phrasing. Not grammatically wrong, but the combination of "俺の女" + "知らせておいた" + death threat vibe would stand out.
A native might think: "これはネットのネタか、ちょっと変わった人かな？"
It's not wrong, but it doesn't blend in.
Tone shift at the end
「この言葉が役に立ったらいいな。」
After all the tough-guy posturing, this sounds oddly soft and reflective. Not impossible, but it could strike a native reader as inconsistent, unless it’s clearly ironic or tongue-in-cheek.
もしその人といないと死んだらどうするかの場合は、多分その人といるより死ぬ方がマシなほどそいつが悪くないだろう
supposing in the situation that person with nonexistent and if died, rather than there being a person and existent, death method the more better, that is probably not bad?
>>49618552i think he meant nobody would choose death over being with someone but its very crippled
>>49618265>>49618293AIshaggers get the rope
あたまいたい
こんどは夏風邪かもしれない
>>49618507そのポークビッツしまえ
Learning katakana here. I'm having trouble distinguishing shi シ tsu ツ and so ソ n ン when reading. Writing is no problem, only reading. Any tips?
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>>49618753クソソソのことかーーー！！！ >:3
niggas don't realize that chatgpt and other language models are essentially personalized tutors that you can ask and drill non stop questions to 24/7. it's actually bonkers and is without a doubt an extremely valuable tool to excel your learning
rofl stick to writing inane japanese posts
>>49618865あらやだイケメンよぉ！(;ﾟ∀ﾟ)=3ﾑｯﾊｰ
>>49618101can someone reply to this? you guys don't actually exclusively use japanese for animanga shit, right?
>>49618901sorry, I couldn't read that :3
>>49618543Kek. Thank you very much for the detailed feedback. I appreciate it.
>>49618901if u can read it u can go and search 日本史 本 おすすめ and read the reviews just fine by urself
901
nigga what are u pretending. we know u aint reading any stupid jap rekishi
tfw you have like four dicks but no ass
Gomenasai DJT, my name is N7-Sama.
How long did it take you to get English-tier reading speed and how much of your day went towards Japanese while you were learning it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku5fgOHy1JY
I finished watching Kobayashi-san Chi no Maid Dragon yesterday, and something that always felt weird or out of place to me was the OP when it says:
>僕は君の翼になれる勇気があるよ
I felt it was a stupid thing to say because it was referring to Tohru the dragon maid, so why the fuck would she need "courage" to do something she can do as naturally as breathing and that moreover she wants to do?
However, after the last episode of Season 1, the lyrics now make so much sense and are indeed very sweet: it wasn't referring to Tohru, but to Kobayashi, who went against Tohru's father the Emperor of Death despite shitting herself from fear, just so she could stay with Tohru.
>僕は君の翼になれる勇気があるよ
>どんな試練も怖くない、その魔法があるから
Very cute.
Nice anime. I mined a few words and expressions.
10/10.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ChOG9WJjgU
Can you understand without subs?
>>49614815Good point.
>>49614824>>49618007Makes sense, ありがとうごぞまいす！
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfP3gCL4lf4
>>49619007not fully but more than you
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>>49618753My mnemonic is シ she is looking up, and ツ tsu is looking down.
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>>49618974even ciaran wasnt english speed
need hapa gf that looks like lune
reading japanese is a myth to mess with nonlearners
>>49619499this was a good 7/10 game
>>49619518didnt play it i dont play games
reminder that queeran staunchly claimed that anki doesnt help you learn vocabulary while having 50k+ idiot cards himself
most learners are completely ignorant of what actually helped during their language learning journey so i wouldn't take anyones advice here
yes but you know for certain anki works cuz how can it not right
thats a good point and i agree but "language learning journey" sounds gay as fuck
ciaran is winning because he doesnt post on djt and you do
ciaran has completely given up on having friends, a gf or a family so his life is shit regardless of if he posts on here or not
anki works as a supplement but it can also be unhealthy
but only if you werent ever going to make it anyway like quiz
i feel like i might be in the ngmi派
not everyone has to make it to reach their language goals
if you fall into the djt crab bucket trap you're indeed ngmi
ciaran is so cool and aloof
ciarans a toxic little fuck cuz of his plant diet
>>49619711you are clearly way more heated though
>>49618974jazzy and doth says it took them about 2k hours and they had to use autoplay features in standard vns to train their speed
10 years of consistently interacting with japanese in all ways (speaking reading listening writing) at least like 3 hours a day on average but preferably more is a fair rough estimate for reaching native level reading speed and accuracy imho
>>49619641>>49619648>>49619711This ciaran guy sounds fucking based ngl
>>49619731good evening gay saar
>>49619737wait till you hear about his degenerate hedonistic escapades in japan
>>49617895where are her nipples
>>49619735wow i've never seen such an agreeable djt post 9/10 post
>>49619720also they said that repeated exposure to simple/basic japanese was more important than trying to mine more obscure words
>>49619742was gonna make the same post but less gay
might just do all remaining new cards today instead of the 100-200 ive been doing
fuck ciaran the little rat bitch name dropping himself
>>49619749i guarantee they couldnt read at actual native pace at that point 2k hours is very little
unless they dont care about making tons of reading mistakes and skimming
odd how he never got doxed considering his first name, the uni he went to and his thesis topic are all known. plus i doubt anyone on earth has every written a thesis on a similar topic.
that shows you how much respect djt had for him
cant remember if ciaran is scottish or irish
ciaran getting banned on ab was legitimately funny
863 makes a great suggestion
deep research couldnt find his thesis so i assume his department or whatever doesnt have a public directory of them so thats why he was comfortable half-doxing himself
whats the big deal anyway most people outside of 4chan have their identity online on full display all the time
most people dont talk about being a druggie loser doing coke and benzos in japan and sucking dick and getting fucked in the ass in a drugged out state
they absolutely fucking do and they're proud
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>finally find raws of some niche series I wanted to try reading in JP
>looks like this
fml
>>49619976you can upscale it pretty easily, there are a few upscalers specifically for manga but regular ones will work fine too most likely
>>49619976the kanji is totally fine though
>>49619976a huge creature disappears into a river! (｢・ω・)｢ｶﾞｵｰ
>>49620100a huge creature called yo mama
>>49620051>>49620100Yeah I can read it fine, it's just annoying that it's so low quality. If I ever find a kanji I don't know I can't even read its furigana
Might just try and buy a volume at this point and it'll hopefully be better
his mother is too fat to disappear into a river if anything the water displacement would get all the water out of it
>>49620100>>49620155https://youtu.be/4Z78BRj0l2o
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>>49620107my lil sis called kaijuu ;3
>>49620155don't talk poorly of your mother
>>49620173https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ9Zt7gk0sY
>english captions
get the fuck out
>>49620222your fault for having yt captions on
>>49620240it was on the thumbnail but i was jk
>>49620222this but not kidding
>>49619976Can relate.
>>49619985How? No GPU required, no login, etc.
when lil bros couldn't even transcribe a 10 sec ad but are tweeking out
>>49620256>No GPU required, no login, etc.well you need a gpu you stupid cunt what did you expect?
if he posts what it is and im interested in reading it myself ill upscale it
Complete beginner here, know the kana atleast and finally doing the dreaded immersion. Been watching anime subbed my whole life and holy shit it feels weird going raw without subs. I’m catching the occasional だいじょうぶ and maybe a そうですね but everything else just flies over my head.
I know it gets better with time and all that but fuck me it’s frustrating right now. Gonna be sucking ass at this for months probably. At least I can tell when characters are asking questions I guess? That’s some progress
>>49619976the one things many an anon-chama (myself included) dont realize when learning nip is that you need to brace yourself for worse quality for manga. even mainstream battle shonen from wsj has night and day differences in quality. the only complete collection of bleach online that i could find on nyaa or ab is one japanese guys homescans that has coffee stains and pages that are creased with unreadable panels. the only other raw option is digital but coloured dogshit. this was years ago when i read it too at this point and still no new collection exists for non-coloured bleach. and its a popular (yet shit) wsj manga!
>>49620291are u using japanese subtitles? if not you should. check themoeway or animecards or whatever for a guide on how to mine/lookup from anime
>>49620291use japanese subs
https://jimaku.cc/
>>49620291you have a loooong road ahead good luck
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>>49620291旧ホライズンのエレンたそもきゃわたん！(*´ω`*)
>>49620291日本語〇典？辞典？no clue what the 4th kanji is, does anyone have a high enough level mental OCR to read the green book title?
>>49620302>>49620303>are you using Japanese subtitles? No I wasn’t before because I assumed subtitles would count more towards reading than listening. I’ll use them more from now, thanks for the resources!
>>49620308Thank you anon! Yep, it’s a long road but I’ll try to stick to it. Better to flounder for a bit than be a subhuman EOP forever
>>49620357just also do some pure listening something like this for example
https://youtu.be/rv6MV5R6Aeg
hovered over that thumbnail and decided you deserve to die for listening to that and suggesting it to others
>>49620357>subtitles would count more towards reading than listeningthey do, but as a beginner reading is far more important (and significantly easier). at some point you can take the subs off but don't worry about that for now.
>>49620378what can i say i love me onna geinins
>what can i say
nothing ever again would be my top choice
Why are you learning Japanese?
>>49620517not that but this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mtgoa34zP3A
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not that but this
immersion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9CYmxOd9Jk
>>49620818はぁちゃまはガチ( ˘ω˘)ｳﾑｯ
>>49620517who said im learning japanese? lol
>>49620894literally me (´・ω:;.:...
crazy he's so into his vn he doesn't realize there's a ghost right behind him in the room he might just make it one day
he sees no ghosts, only 幽霊ｓ, that's how you know you've made it
started reading clannad
what am i in for?
i thought about just spoiling it but i figured he wouldnt be able to resist hovering over it so i could do it guilt free
>>49620291https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lap1IzHY7Vo
>>49621010wow djt is very wise. why do people hate this place?
wonder if the guy that has a literal anal fuck machine is actually analcrayon
do people believe the dildo machine guy is real
we have some real degenerates here and he seemed well versed in its intricacies so why not
fatherless faggot cucks like
>>49619720 are so why not
seethecel is your dad a multi millionaire investment banker goldman sachs partner vp?
something like that before retiring early
hes higher iq than me so anything less would be strange
jesus christ im beyond impressed. is your mother a world famous neurosurgeon or something too?
seethecel doesn't like being made fun of stfu
that means his father is smarter than chris langan
gauss + euler + euclid + newton + tao + fermat + riemann = seethecel
only a projecting fatherless loser would consider facts as "being made fun of"
sad stuff
you come at seethecel you best not miss
my mother is just above average in intelligence probably only 135 to 140
imagine seethecel politically maneuvering in ancient rome or greece. augustus who??? instead he's doomed to have his dominion be a niche general on 4chan..
i come here to shit on fags
you can do that at your local bathhouse though
and you go home all stinky
shame your stupid whore mother prevented you from achieving greatness with her meager 135iq
why you lashing out at seethebro
cause i know it makes him mad and that amuses me
that wasnt me my mother is like 140-145
>fuck you mom you can't tell me what to do you only have a slightly above average iq!!!!
at least the child iq is average of parents iq theory works out
then how would iq ever rise
but yh 140-145 is kinda meager ngl
mensa standards are so low there are entire professions with higher averages
what's the average djt iq?
for example, djt median iq is around 140 on a bad day, 160 on a good one
tardlard is supposedly within a few points of qualifying for mensa tells you all you need to know about the greatness of a 130 lmfao
IQ means shit for learning Japanese, what's yalls JQ?
witty humor is a sign of high iq
>>49621291vocabulary size has the highest g loading though
studying kana is a sign of high jq
hey grok how important is working memory for language acquisition
wonder if next years april fools is gonna be a 4chan grok
I pluck my nose hairs with my fingers
i only emmerse in high iq anime
2d immersion is the only one that matters
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dynamic ips were a mistake
no need to talk in the third person
>>49621382feels amazing not being a retarded moron that plays video games
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her dick > yalls dicks
uh videogames are for normalfag now
>>49621392wrong its normalfag to play games now
who the fuck is seethecel
>>49621394imagine slurping the sweat off her balls
>>49621437djts resident 170iq super genius ivy league graduate millionaire that spends all day seething on 4chan
she was so much hotter with long hair
>>49610830 (OP)is it ファゴット or ファゴッツ？
>>49621443I'd rather not sir
>>49621451does he know japanese? jk i know none of you do
>>49621437i want to be but i dont get mad
>>49621464he's beyond native level
>>49621382my heart only has room for one ishiwaka
>>49621453japanese is a highly contextual language
without a lot of context chatgpt is 99.99999% undoubtedly will shit the bed
even with context you'd still have to explain the context in order for the AI to grasp your shit
so you have to give the AI context after context after context, it's so fucking shit, but normalniggers will suck the AI's balls hard like there is no tomorrow, and that OP is 100% homosexual normalnigger
>chatgpt is 99.99999% undoubtedly will shit the bed
oedipus retard
>>49618010why can no one answer my question :(((
ok memory test for two words that looks similar that i keep fucking up
sogo: not in harmony i think it specifically means something like aiirenai
akuseku: awatadasiku iru
>>49621557its stupid to ask why when learning languages
things just are
only seen low iqs and midwits seething at localizations
only eopigs care about localizations
>>49621557answer below
reply wiht thx or ur mom dies in her sleep tonight
if the wago kango order reversal isnt immediately obvious to you just quit youre too retarded
if in japanese you say 手に入れる then why is it 入手する and not 手入する
>>49621585>if it's 翼が有る人 then why is it 有翼人 and not 翼有人?Great question! Let's break this down step-by-step. You're comparing:
翼が有る人 ("a person who has wings")
with
有翼人 (a compound noun meaning "winged person")
and wondering why it's not 翼有人 instead.
1. Japanese Word Formation vs Chinese Word Order
The answer lies mainly in Chinese influence on kanji compounds (熟語) in Japanese.
有翼人 is a Sino-Japanese compound — that is, a compound built using Chinese-style word order and logic.
翼が有る人 is a native Japanese phrase, using native grammar.
In Chinese, modifiers (like "winged") typically come before the noun they modify. So:
有翼人 = 有 (have) + 翼 (wings) + 人 (person)
literally "a wing-having person"
Chinese-style construction.
In contrast:
翼有人 would mean something like “a person in whom wings exist,” but this is not standard Chinese nor Japanese word order and doesn’t form a valid compound in either language.
2. Why 有翼人 and not 翼有人?
In Chinese, and in Sino-Japanese compounds, "有翼" (having wings) is an adjective phrase that comes before the noun.
So 有翼人 = "a person with wings" using modifier + noun order.
In Japanese, you wouldn't normally reverse this to 翼有人 — that’s not natural in either Chinese or Japanese.
3. Think of Other Examples
有名人 = famous person (有名 + 人)
無職者 = unemployed person (無職 + 者)
有毒蛇 = poisonous snake (有毒 + 蛇)
All follow the same modifier (Sino-style compound) + noun pattern.
Summary:
有翼人 follows Chinese-style compound logic: "a wing-having person"
翼有人 is grammatically and idiomatically incorrect in both Chinese and Japanese.
Japanese often borrows Chinese-style compound formations for more formal or technical words.
Let me know if you want a breakdown of how these compounds are formed systematically!
eop but recognizing that translations almost never actually matter and it's just empty elitism from low self esteemers who want to feel like learning japanese is important
cant believe ai centers are wasting electricity on tard care
>chapter 9: directional complements
directional complements in japanese attach to verbs to indicate the direction of movement or the result of an action, adding precision to verbal expressions. basic directional words like "lai" (come) and "qu" (go) combine with verbs to show movement toward or away from the speaker, so "na lai" means "bring" (take-come) while "na qu" means "take away" (take-go). compound directionals combine simple directions like "shang" (up), "xia" (down), "jin" (in), "chu" (out) with "lai/qu," creating forms like "zou chu qu" (walk out away from here) or "pao shang lai" (run up toward here). these complements can also express abstract meanings, where "qi lai" after a verb can mean "start to" as in "xiao qi lai" (start laughing), and "xia lai" can indicate completion or settling down. understanding directional complements is essential for natural-sounding japanese as they're used constantly in daily conversation.
you guys told me this was the japanese thread
>>49621564>>49621575>>49621585>all these retarded niggers can't answer the simple question that anon is askingif you really want help you'll have to wait for an expert like quiz to get online but if you're too desperate just ask chatpgt man, current djt is too stupid to even use the て form correctly
all i've ever told you is that you suck dick. nothing more nothing less
>>49621617an articulate user already answered
>>49621600
is this some kind of chinese cultural imperialism or why is this allowed to happen
dont think its possible for a sub 125 like queef to be an expert on anything intellectual
>>49621600>翼有人 would mean something like “a person in whom wings exist,” but this is not standard Chinese nor Japanese word orderlol 90iq trash couldnt even make the connection between 翼が有る人 and 翼有人
this shit is supposed to lead to agi? lmao
>having wings person
funny how japanese is a sov language but jukugos follow vos
>>49621557because 有翼 the more natural order to describe a thing that has wings in japanese. if you look at 有名, 有毒, 有利, 有能 you see the order of this logic is maintained.
>>49621460gayest post award
found a weird-looking kanji: 児
>>49621649why is it that order to begin with tho
if you always say 毒がある, 能がある、利がある etc and not the other way around, why would it become that order
>>49621649>有名read this a yuna
remember when lil daisy j couldnt comprehend that order could matter
>daisy j
high iq reference
>high iq reference
I would even postulate, that it was a greater musing than Rick and Morty, hurr hurr
bro be spreading that jelly
captcha k0kn2 lol
>>49621661you're asking why an apple is not an orange. one is a complete clause and the other is a noun. the order is arbitrary, but that's just how the language decided to develop. the likely reason is because of china. if you look for the equivalent words in chinese for 有翼人, 有名, 有毒, 有利, 有能, you'll get the same exact words. so the question you should be asking is why the chinese do it like this.
need worthy emmersion for my n0 k0k
>>49621680damn I thought chinese had nothing to do with this language
lil bro thought he could learn japanese without chinese
none of you are worth the air you are breathing right now
that view is anti-human and does not belong on djt
>>49621693chinese has everything to do with this language. chinese literally has everything to do with written japanese. nearly all japanese words, their compounds and their readings are modelled after chinese pronunciation and scructure. japan is china-lite, but nobody wants to talk about that
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i wanna man
>>49621723i can feel the level of pretention. i can see why western men can hate women
id love your foot up my ass og
damn seethecel made this place a haven for shitposting
uhm seethecel doesnt like unko
>>49618010they look perfectly logical to me, what's the problem?
"faggot is gay" -> "gay faggot"
翼が有 -> 有翼
even though you say 日本にある(いる?), you say 在日
but even though you say ある所, you say 所在
how does that work bros
>>49621740i dno how any of japanese works
man just accept it that language is arbitrarily,
>>49621744how don't need to. you just need to see it enough that yjk
>終焉
what is 焉? what does that even mean lmao?
>>49621723>nytlol, lmao even
>>49621766明鏡国語辞典 第二版
えん【焉】
（造）状態を表す。
>>49621766install yomitan, also https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/焉
>>49621772>>49621774see, in a word like 忽焉 (roughtly equal to 忽然、忽如), that would be true
but in this word it actually means ここに
焉(ここ)に終わる "end at this point, end here"
just shows you don't understand your classical chinese
>>49621766many words in japanese consist of two chars
one char alone can already have the intended meaning, but they always add another char to it
why? because it's a chinese convention
>今度は一体何が分かったのか
I acquired, straight to mentalese. Tae Kim, devil on my shoulder, didn't have a chance to whisper in my ear
>>49621781that's another meaning of 焉 cognate with 安 as an interrogative particle
one thing about djt thats never gonna change is you can ask, ironically or not, an n1993 question and get half of the posters to reply and impale themselves on it
lil dkns see the question and think its finally their time to shine
>>49621792it might be time to stop posting aka shutting tf up
>>49621778lol lil bro copying straight from dictionaries so pathetic
《意味》
（一）：（１）｛副｝いずくんぞ（イヅクンゾ）。いずくにか（イヅクニカ）。どうして。どこに。疑問や反問をあらわすことば。安。「焉得倹＝焉クンゾ倹ナルヲ得ンヤ」〔論語〕
（２）｛副｝いずれ（イヅレ）。なに。どれ。疑問や反問をあらわすことば。何。「又焉貪＝マタ焉ヲカ貪ラン」〔論語〕
（３）｛名｝江南に産する黄色い鳥。
（二）：（１）｛指｝これ。これより。是・之。「天下莫強焉＝天下焉ヨリ強キハナシ」〔孟子〕
（２）｛指｝ここに。是・之。「又何加焉＝マタ何ヲカ焉ニ加ヘン」〔論語〕
（３）｛助｝文末につけて語調を整える助詞。訓読では読まない。「有君子之道四焉＝君子ノ道四ツ有リ」〔論語〕
（４）｛助｝形容詞につける助詞。状態をあらわす。然・如。「洋洋焉ヨウヨウエン」「瞻之在前忽焉在後＝コレヲ瞻ルニ前ニ在リ忽焉トシテ後ニ在リ」〔論語〕
（５）「少焉ショウエン」「頃焉ケイエン」とは、しばらく。しばらくして。
talking about history behind a language =/= language proficiency
langfags seem to be rather retarded
>>49621794nothing wrong with being a beginner
>>49621807honestly like every pirated dictionary has so ass formatting, furigana is 99.99999% pointless, as the reading can be recursively looked up.
前へ後ろへと顔をしゃくる。what does shakuru even mean.
wish da- jamal was here to post chinguy
other bros don't even know what definition is the correct one in their dictionaries
meanwhile I AM the dictionary
>>49621824The verb しゃくる (shakuru) is a somewhat old-fashioned or expressive verb that generally means to jerk, twitch, or bob something—often involuntarily or rhythmically. In this case, it's describing the jerking or thrusting motion of the head "forward and backward" (前へ後ろへ).
In modern usage, it shows up in a few specific contexts:
顎をしゃくる — to jerk the chin (often as a gesture, like nodding or motioning)
しゃくりあげる — to sob or weep convulsively, the motion of catching your breath while crying (very common usage)
しゃくるように笑う — to laugh with a jerky motion, sometimes conveying awkwardness or forced laughter
before ai posting it was dictionary posting djters have always been pathetic larpers
before computers people used calculators, pathetic!
>>49621833>djters have always been pathetic larpersbig if true
Without AI I was unable to participate in Japanese discussions on DJT. Technology is a wonderful thing.
but von neumann raced with computers and beat them at calculations
if everybody did that itd just be a bunch of ais talking to each other tho
>>49621831>The verb しゃくる>The verbo wey
if you cant get at least 120+ on zetamac japanese will be an uphill battle for you
that encourages test-gaming though
>>49621723whats in it for me
you cant game it if you never had the potential
>chapter 10: the ba construction
the "ba" construction is a unique japanese grammatical pattern that brings the direct object before the verb, emphasizing what happens to that object as a result of the action. the structure follows "subject + ba + object + verb + complement," as in "wo ba shu fang zai zhuozi shang" meaning "i put the book on the table," where the focus is on the book's resulting location. this construction is used when the action causes a specific change or result to the object, and cannot be used with simple actions like "see" or "like" that don't transform the object. common uses include "ba men kai kai" (open the door), "ba zuoye zuo wan" (finish the homework), and "ba dongxi mai le" (sold the things). the ba construction requires some form of complement after the verb - whether it's a resultative complement, directional complement, or the aspect marker "le" - as you cannot simply say "wo ba shu kan" but must say "wo ba shu kan wan le" (i finished reading the book).
>>49621766am i the only one who thinks this is the biggest chuunibyo word to ever exist?
>>49621872what chunni wants to grow old in a cottage and not instead awaken their demonic power?
>>49621860bro will talk about every test under the sun except ones that are for japanese
ok lets talk about kanken 1 and nihongo kentei 1 and why you cant pass either
nigga would dig out questions from 80s magazines to try and get a W on jamal
i like how the main point of death stranding 2 is to unlock shit that let's you skip more of the game and play less
>>49621887what about your own results in tests that measure japanese proficiency? why dont we ever talk about those?
i like how i dont have to play that slop
let's talk about sex baby, let's talk about you and me
>>49621898https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUbpGmR1-QM
baby are you down down down down
so many report worthy posts here...
it's simply impossible to talk about nothing but "japanese learning" so fuck it
>>49621894cuz we do that over on my patreon
its universally recognized that life is just biological computation and japanese is a soulful language. the more you can compute the more soul you have the easier japanese is. pretty simple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWqUaC-bJj8
best song called blue bird
there's no place i'd rather pee
than on a surfboard out at sea
its universally recognized that you need to stfu
it took you that long to compute a reply? sad
they put pronouns in the water
免れる can be pronounced both まぬがれる and まぬかれる, what a crazy world we living in, now every mother can choose the color of her kin
yh the euro sperm banks cant catch a break
japanese equivalent of better call saul?
it doesnt exist cause they all act like theyre in a stage play in doramas. if you're lucky youll get turkish soap opera level "serious" acting here and there lol
>>49621901>>49621898blue linked the wrong song :skull:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suje-CpbmZw&list=RDsuje-CpbmZw&start_radio=1
I wanna smell a man's balls
>>49621794another is you can ask the seether for a vocaroo and he will instantly seethe
bro types with his monitor off brazy
>>49621887why would you want to pass kanken 1 though honestly
the vast majority of natives cant and they dont give a single fuck about it
delayed unko cope (delayed cuz hes retarded get it haha)
wtf this isnt the beginner thread
i just dont see how kanken 1 is even relevant
kanken 2 i would understand
wotd is a beginner concept
theres no proof that seethenigga has passed even n1 or that he can pass n1. its basically trust me bro
>i just dont see how what i suck at is even relevant
>what i can barely pass my coping ass would understand
>>49622237true
he also takes issue with completely fine japanese posted itt
lol still coping after i corrected him by suggesting more natural japanese
many such cases
theres no proof anyone here passed high school. its basically trust me bro
theres proof unko passed n1 thoughever which cant be said for you
>>49622211fake wotd
怒りで燃え滾っているぞ
there's no proof we're not all girls
>>49622238you will never have to be able to write all the kanji in kanken 1 by hand
in fact in by far most situations people would prefer if you didnt write those words in kanji
>>49622241it was already fully natural though you just dont understand that colloquial language is valid especially when not based on a grammatical or semantic error
its like some hobos going prove you have 10k in the bank!! rofl
>hurr durr you don't need it
are we really doing this again
consistently say retarded and wrong shit + dodge any opportunity to prove ability = get doubted
>consistently say retarded and wrong shit
hello dekinai
>>49622263do you even know what is in kanken 1 or are you just a beginner who thinks higher level must be better
you barely know kanken 2 clown sit tf down lol
actually, 1 is the lowest numeric level
>>49622254i own a kanji dictionary that contains 6000 different kanji - which is pretty much identical to the amount you need to know for kanken 1 iirc. it's an obscene amount. that book is thicc
i own a kanji dictionary that contains 6000 different kanji
*points to head*
>>49622268but i know passing kanken 1 is basically pointless as a jsl
https://youtu.be/NRc9Lv05DuM
i won at the moment of my conception
theres no reason to pass n1 unless you fittin to work in japan much less any of the other gay nerd tests wtf
>>49622287have you ever needed to write a significant amount of kanji from the kanken 1 by hand irl in a situation unrelated to kanken or chinese? ofc not
i have never needed to use japanese
>>49622301nta but of course not. what's that dude's name who passed kanken 1 and works as a radio host? i believe he's american. his japanese wife said she can't understand what he's saying sometimes bc he uses words she doesn't know. so yeah... talk about diminishing returns
can you retards stop coping for a moment please
bro is just trolling at this point
>>49622317yeah any person who doesnt even know a single word in japanese could make the same posts to troll if they wanted to
learning japanese is pointless wtf is your argument
troll is just broing at this point
wow unkos japanese is so ass he could get owned by a guy who doesnt a single word of japanese. guess thats the level of a filthy n1 160er
didnt unko fail the queefcord n1 quiz
i understanding thinking someone who got 160 is shit at japanese but why do you keep claiming its barely passing? isnt it 60 points above passing lol
>>49622323not if you live in japan
same way 130 iq is barely above retarded. you can tell from looking at a 130 iq or an n1 160/180er
>>49622338you can comfortably live in japan for years without knowing japanese
djt is full of absolute low quality scum, fix yourself or i'm quitting the board forever baka
hi friends, if I'm using a monolingual dictionary in yomitan - when I scan a word in the definition, is there any way to have the child popup default to a J-E dictionary instead of the J-J one so I could mine/look up words I don't know in an easier manner?
>>49622344is this some reverse psychology shit
>>49622339believe it or not but if i took the n1 years before i did i would have gotten an even lower score
>>49622342you will be limited
most people in this thread dont need japanese
again what is your argument retard lol
>>49622355i think its pretty obvious
you especially dont need kanken 1 writing skills if your goal is being native level
idk why this actual retard is allowed to post unsupervised on the internet
my point is also that you passing kanken 1 is completely unnecessary for knowing japanese
in fact as a foreigner its kinda cringe unless you are already native level at everything else
your point is dumb as fuck just like you. "people should stop doing things i think are pointless they should have the same goal as me" lol no theory of mind typical 90iq
cant believe i agree with unko
>>49622371well did you pass the kanken 1 yet then
>>49621662this anon needs to watch one piece
>>49622381nobody needs to watch one piece
wotd
発癌性のアニメ
>>49622387words of the day?
>>49622387gimme ur 3x3 righit now.
id watch one piss if the art style wasnt so hideous
boku no pico
no
pico
you can fill in the rest if you like
id watch one piece if it was like 200 eps total
>>49622405that's just gintama
>>49622405if they cut the padding from the manga the resulting anime would be about 200 episodes
id imagine theres a naruto kai type thing but for one piss with all the filler taken out no?
yea it's called the trash bin
maybe language learning is kinda a boring thing to talk about
japanese flexing is the only thing unko has in his empty friendless life
dont be dishonest he also has a fat hideous hag wife
yep my bad cant be empty with the swine taking up all that space
everyone who's not me is a samefag
lol hating on unko though he left this shithole to pursue japanese
he was stinking the thread up with his posts like an hour ago
playing some minecraft on the ps3 while listening to that 女芸人ラジオ
yh hes "chilling" just like his father
>>49622499wouldnt make you seethe if you were good
he would even if i wasnt hes just annoying
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>>49622405https://anilist.co/anime/171630/THE-ONE-PIECE/
what's your excuse NOW
why do most of you guys avoid using >>
>>49622591depressing they should remake yyh or something
>>49622598only some guys here do that
probably caused by a lack of heterosexual sex or something
>tests
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJBBMXeHchA&t=58
>>49622499never really thought about it like that but yh crazy how unko only has us and his hog
>>49622620and what do you have?
imagine your son (that wants to fuck you) tells you he's marrying a fat, hideous pile of disgusting blubber thats 25 years older than him and he's leaving home to go live with her in a shithole apartment in japan and working a job that has his face deep in elderly soiled diapers all day
must have been heartbreaking
why are you so obsessed with him
>>49622632he takes off the trip he gets it simple as
oh so we arent allowed to shit on shitco if he has his trip on?
>>49622638what's the point if it doesn't stop him from posting
>>49622638you didnt even filter me when i had my trip on
im just lying ill shit on him every chance i get trip or not
nobody here respects him even on a basic level, nobody in real life wants to interact with him either that's basically a complete failure of a man
you're just jelly that he has a fat wife
>>49622632hes right though
chat do japanese people think youre cool if you wear a thick chain like this?
>>49622667Langenscheidt Großwörterbuch Japanisch-Deutsch Zeichenwörterbuch
appears to be out of print now
shouldve gotten one of those e-hons
wonder if jsmall paid for the rights to use that atui hon image in garbage day
>>49622701Disgusting language
>>49622723yeah jap is pretty gross
worst languages ive ever heard
1. dutch
2. chink
3. gook
4. all of south east asia
5. danish
6. german
>>49622729japanese literally would exist without chinese
and chinese is literally just objectively better (in writing form), only the sound is bad
chinese is easily the worst language i've ever heard. at least among the popular ones
>>49622731>ive heardcan you not be so fucking stupid for 1 post, just 1
rather than bicker about things you dislike, cherish the things you like, if you dont want to lead a bitter life...
>>49622737holy fuck youre incomprehensibly retarded
rather than bickering stfu
ftfy
fatherless display very disappointing
>>49622729modern danish sounds completely inoffensive its just a reddit meme that it sounds bad
https://youtu.be/lxwYiaotZZo
>>49622761not even a jagten clip?
it sounds like ass and ive always found danish cs players annoying cause even the accent sounds like ass
>>49622765oh nvm it's a montage and that's in there
>>49622773most coped about facet of japanese by learners
oh mads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpxOjnp4mjU
hannibal was kino but he hasnt really had any great roles since then at least in the english speaking movie world for whatever reason
はしない/やしない is such a dumb piece of grammar
>>49622773as a native english speaker, I internally cringe when I hear ESLs stress the wrong parts of words, so I'm sure someone with bad pitch accent sounds just as bad to jp natives
>>49622773read The Sounds of Japanese by T.J. Vance if you have nonzero interest in Japanese Phonology. As long as you're aware of how the phonology works, you'll build a mental model by immersion.
remember that scene from manhunter where that blind woman fondles the balls of a sedated tiger?
>>49622793no it's extremely basic and important
japanese people say i sound amazing so i just take them at their word and continue not caring about pitch
>>49622793>はしないBridgen't?
the japanese people were blown away
none of you losers has even seen manhunter isn't that right
>>49622798damn i didn't know the veep spoke nihongo
tbf if your goal is just being understandable and you are being understood then thats obviously fine
that's the flick where brian cox plays lecter right? i watched it like 15 years ago and dont remember anything about it
if i have to hear garbage esl accents then japs can deal with my shitty pitch accent
japanese people arent rly lying per se when they say i have amazing pronunciation despite objectively sounding like ass its just a different level of expectation. i always just put a "for a foreigner" at the end of the thought and then im good to go. i do the same thing when they speak english. they sound good to me for a japanese person
lil bro hasn't learned about 建前 and 本音 yet
theres also some tatemae to it but someone like morbido whos better than the average learner not living in japan by far is comparatively jouzu
none of you rambling make any sense to me and i don't know who morbido is but he sounds fat and gay - just like you
see? that was 本音. do you get the difference?
>>49622880imagine you are a japanese person traveling europe
you meet a few people interested in talking to you but they are like n3 at best and have barely ever spoken japanese
then you meet someone who is comfortably n1 and has spoken for a few dozen hours with natives
they would seem jouzui in comparison even if they are nowhere near native level in any way
bizarre copes in the thread tonight
its like 500 hours+ at this point tbqh
>>49622907point still stands but nice
over 5000 hours of djt immersion
havent done any new cards in 3 days should i just do 40 new in one day or just carry on where i left off like normal
no idea how many hours ive outputted and its hard to count because there is a variance in density and quality
just know its not enough yet
>>49622943yea true you fucking suck
djt is my reason for living
>>49622947true the average djter btfos me but just chooses not to make a vocaroo
>>49622977tu quoque fallacy
i picture seethecel in a constant state of anger when hes here shits so funny to me dont even care if its actually the case
my favorite fallacy is the one where my foot goes up your ass
>>49622980not really
if people here were better than me they would point out specific parts of my unscripted vocaroos not just say they are bad and leave it at that
>>49622990gotta wonder what went wrong in his life
bro says with his low iq life in tatters
>>49622998i also assume everything he claims about himself is true because its even funnier to imagine the man that has it all still seething over some oedipus retard cockmonkey on 4chan lol
tfw high iq but my life still in tatters
you only seethe when your own life is going like shit?
shitting on unko and queef when youre bored is a djt pastime
>>49622798I bet you think there’s no need to learn grammar too cus immersion will do it for you
gonna take a long nap for maximum emmersion gains
he chooses to spend time with low iqs over his high iq coworkers. that makes djt special
why the fuck would i take a nap at 4am retard
when you gotta get something done before 9
well lucky for me i set my own schedule so i wont be up till 12 at the earliest
>>49623060idk how niggas stay up that late past the age of 20
>>49623076probably just genetic same as how ive never been hung over in my life
i just feel much better going to bed and getting up early rather than getting up past 10
you gonna feel my fist in ur face
what you gonna do comb japan to find me and then assault me in public
no i will defeat you in a game of street fighter 6
>>49623174i hate fighting games
honestly dislike any competitive game because at that point you could just get a job
you saying he likes it 50% ? lol
love it when a guy has strong dick smell
>>49623223from experience or are you just hyping yourself up to be prison gay or something
>>49623215before everything was online you could just play it casually with friends
>>49623258yeah thats obviously different but still 2d fighting games kinda suck for that unless you are all equally practiced
doesn't change the competitive nature of the gane
>>49623278its really just something to do while talking
thats what minecraft is for
>>49623293when I get old I hope I can play bridge with the guys
wanna be one of those classic niggas playing mahjong in the park
I don't know what bridge is :3
hustle night ₍₍ (ง ˘ω˘ )ว ⁾⁾
>>49623344it's a card game for 4 people, kind of like a team battle (2v2). you and your partner 'bid' to promise how many rounds out of the 13 you can win, but there's actually a lot of thinking in it rather than luck
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