Discussion concerning Higurashi, Umineko, Ciconia, Rose Guns Days, Higanbana, TRianThology, and all other 07th Expansion works.

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Previous thread: >>49558674

>>49616670 (OP)
transgender gem OP

>>49617393
Thanks, I was thinking of removing Umineko from the OP, but decided to leave it in considering the month and all.

>>49616670 (OP)
The greatest gift Satoko ever received was a kiss from her true love

>>49617436
Ouch! Yasufags btfo

>>49616670 (OP)
HBD

SatoKei SatoKunny

>>49617436
i swear, can we not do that shit again? jesus

This thread's continued existence makes me sad.

>>49625026
Is it sadder to let it die?

Everyone needs to let go, you can't keep clinging to something that doesn't even resemble the thing you love anymore.

>>49625393
I wanna smell that sock

MAGIC IS

MAGIC IS

MAGIC ISSSSSSSSSSSS

fake as shit. acoustics, surveillance, and voice to skull and psychological abuse. Any truth that can be arrived at only through torture probably isn't the truth

>>49625403
I can't move on

Rereading Meakashi, except for Rika, Satoko and K1 every single person murder Shion made was 100% justified and they all had it coming. Too bad Akane was left out of it.

>>49629091
TECHNICALLY, Rika was self-defense and K1 was only attempted murder.

>>49629091
you can't just 'except for' half of the kills shion made, might as well have just said "oryou and kiichirou deserved it"
also damn poor mion

>>49629101
You're right, AND Rika killed herself either way

>>49629113
Coward and traitorous viper, deserved it too

>>49628006
I can. Bye.

Ciconia update?

>>49629156
>You're right, AND Rika killed herself either way
I mean, because captures, tortures and then kills her in Watanagashi and she didn't feel like repeating that.

Also, Shion kills Mion -after- learning she had nothing to do with Satoshi's disappearance, so it's not justified at all.

wasn't Ryukishi supposed to be at some panel recently? did anyone ask about phase 2?

>>49633711
07th Expansion was in the recent "Villagers meeting in Shirakawa" event, but just to release that new Higurashi booklet. There was no Q&A.

......Nipah~

>>49633975
Wow Bern u look a bit different

>>49634157

>>49629091
She technically saved the whole village from Takano so Mion (Shion) is alright in my book.

>>49635135
Shion completely fucking Takano over by accident always makes me laugh

>>49636836
>>49636836
One of my favorite parts of the console arcs is that Connecting Fragments actually covers the Post-Meakashi stuff involving Takano.

I wish Killiu/craft drew more sextoko

I didn't know K1 played bingo

>>49637447
K1 will play anything if it means getting to sex sextoko

>>49636836
I love her tits so much it's unreal.

Recently finished my first playthrough of Higurashi about 6 months ago now, and started Umineko. Shion did nothing wrong.

>>49637695
This woman does things to my penis.

>>49637695
WTF why are Shion fans getting uppity all of a sudden

>>49637725
Uppity??

Are there nonWTC Ryukishi vns connected to the WTC series

>>49637695
>>49637752
evil is stored in the tits

>>49637924

The Kaidan to Odorou novel features a "Miyoko Tanashi" whose parents didn't die and she lived a normal life. It even got a manga adaptation, although it came before the reveal that "Miyoko Tanashi" was actually Miyo Takano's real name, so she didn't look like Takano in the manga (this is a later light novel cover)...

The Hotarubi no Tomoru Koro ni manga has a direct tie in with Umineko through a prologue short novel featuring Lambdadelta, in addition to reusing character designs and character name in one case from Higurashi in the story proper. The location where it takes place also had been briefly name dropped in the Higurashi VN once and even had some of its legends that matter to Hotarubi's plot referenced years before Hotarubi itself in a set of Higurashi Trading Card TIPS they released, that included extra TIPS that weren't in the Higurashi VN.

Higabana has one story heavily spinning around Umineko and the dangers of being lost in fantasy, although it treats Umineko as an in-universe work of fiction.

Trianthology reuses Umineko's entire "fragments as stories" set up and has characters similar looking to Beatrice, Shannon and Bern. I think Beatrice also gets named dropped early on, although not related to those characters.

>>49638094
Thank you anon

Does anyone remember Verokia Dragoon Story?

>>49637695
She killed Oryou by accident instead of torturing her, the hag deserved much worse.

>>49637311
that's a big ass for such a small frame

>>49637447
>>49637311
I didn't know that african negro's name is K1

>>49640043
Who le fuck is african neggro

>>49640141
the man touching Satoko in this picture >>49637311

>>49640273
That's not K1's name

>>49640273
That's the ojisan tan brown color. Kiliu only draws self insert ojisans.
Also, his art's been getting much better lately.

>>49640273
Satoko will go with any man that isn't K...

>>49641137
But Keiichi IS K.

>>49641192
Never even made out.

>>49641271
Making out is not generally how you define the self, the opposite is true actually.

>>49641297
If a trans man like Yasu can converse with himself and even state in red that one of his selves is dead, so can Troonppei make our with herself.

>>49641802
The point is not whether it's possible to make out with oneself, it's that doing it is not a prerequisite to be considered a singular identity in the first place.

War is good and war is kino.
Mr.Ryukishi, tear down these walls of peace.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIljdb6I_IA

Daily Satorika appreciation! new thread (i love going on tiktok comments and seeing everyone talking about satorika lol its genuinely popular with the newer fans)

>>49642571
Keeping it up right until the end of the month I see.

>>49642586
I think you're the one in the closet given how much you seem to hate their pairing :)

>>49642671
Blame Ryu if it's not canon, not me, I respect the trans month.

>>49642697
Satorika is canon why would I need to blame him

>>49642704
For making it not canon in the original VN and his authored sequels where Satoko has a child, and then making an interview to rub salt inside the wound.

>>49642723
There's the other authored sequels where Satorika is canon though, also the Gou drama play which he wrote, and in the interview where he supposedly "debunked" Satorika he said it could be interpreted as yuri and that their relationship is intimate

>>49642828
I meant the canon authored sequels and the interview that debunks SatoRika, sorry if I wasn't clear.

>>49642972
In terms of the series itself, Rei is just as canon as Gou and Sotsu so you can't use it as a point, however Ryukishi has shown to be trying to distance himself from Rei and has been making more and more content for Gou and Sotsu, It's definitely looking like Gou and Sotsu are the more canon ones, even from Ryukishi. And as I said the interview literally says it could be interpreted as yuri and that their relationship is intimate

>>49643035
Yeah, I mean SatoRika was debunked both in SotsuGou, Rei, and the interveiw.

>>49642828
Post your gou drama quote again I'll tell you why you're being retarded (again)

>>49643101
How was it debunked in SotsuGou it was literally the entire point there
>>49643225
Ryukishi literally wrote the entire drama himself and Satoko said "she already has Rika eternally" (in terms of love)

>>49633711
He will be at Animeexpo in a few days. I doubt we will get any positive news about phase2 though, considering people, as of right now, still care about russia/ukraine and the middle east shit

>>49643667
In SotsuGou there's clearly no romantic love or anything but friendship between the two.

>>49643670
There were wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Sudan when he wrote Higurashi.

>>49643827
Are you trolling or did u just watch it blind or biased

>>49643835
That's my line, it's clear that Sotsugou is about Satoko and Rika special friendship, seeing romantic love between them misses the point. The show is one giant friendzone.

>>49643841
bro...

Satoko fears this picture

>>49643667
You never read Umineko (let alone OG Higurashi) so you don't know this, but sotsu's whole reason for existence is to try and push Rika and Satoko towards being Bern and Lambda. Lambda has a one sided obsession with chasing Bern down as she travels between worlds, trying to fuck with her. We would call this the "golden truth": that sotsu's whole world is created simply to push those two into being different characters.
I don't know why you're holding up this stage play like it means something when it's just another hanger on of the sotsu world. Ryu is obsessed with connecting Higurashi and Umineko. And subsequently Ciconia with making Satoko be Vier and some spine in a tube.

>>49643893
>infobox
Why is this guy so obsessed with arguing something he like barely even cares about.

>>49643893

>>49643833
Yeah but he was sane and not a retarded pussy when he wrote Higu.

>>49644035
Classic OP cliche

>>49644008
Bern and Lambda are canonically romantically together, so I don't really know what you were going for there. Like, if they're being pushed towards being Bern and Lambda, then that means they're canonically together. Not sure what you were going for?? That helps out my argument more than anything.
Anyways the drama is important as Ryukishi wrote it entirely himself, over Rei which he simply supervised, it could be argued that it's literally more canon than the Rei manga (and would confirm Satorika even further)

>>49644079
Rei is a novel fandisk you total fucking moron.
Bern and Lambda's "romance" is literally tearing each other limb from limb. Compare that to the way she flirts with Will. There's a different way witches perceive the world. And the whole importance of Rika throwing off Bern's name was to do away with the moral-less witch way of looking at the world like numbers.

>>49644097
There is no way you are trying to argue that Bern and Lambda aren't in love with each other lmao.
At this point I think you just don't like lesbian pairings and won't let anything change your mind.
Seriously have you seen any of their interactions

>>49643934
i dont get it

>>49644122
I don't know how you'd prove love, but you're misunderstanding my argument like you always do, cause you're an autistic with a one track mind.
Rika and Satoko treat each other very differently in Higurashi than Bern and Lambda do in Umineko. The point of Sotsu in Ryukishi's dementia ridden mind was to forcibly bridge the gap. You keep holding up this one line from the drama as, what? Proof that your ship is sailing? I'm explaining to you it's a poor attempt to transform Satoko into Lambda, especially the "eternal" part.

Lambda acts nothing like Satoko(sotsu). She might resemble original Satoko, but she has nothing to do with that insane friend murderer in sotsu.
Rika throws off the Bernkastel name for a reason herself. So the whole thing is built on a flawed premise. That Rei Rika never happened.

If you haven't read Umineko, why are you here?? Aren't you worried about spoilers

>>49644155
I mean he thought Rei was a supervised manga, he's just an anime only here to argue about yuri.

>>49644166
Yeh but why though. Like why would you not just go read/watch Umi first before posting here.

>>49644170
One of those nuclear autists we get. He's been arguing for weeks at this point. Obsessed with making yuri canon, and only that point.
Look, here he is trying to argue that it's more canon because of popularity on (english) twitter
>>49568768

>>49644143
I don't really see how Bern and Lambda and the fact that you THINK that it's a "poor attempt at bridging the gap" change the fact that Satorika is basically canon? Whether Sotsu was just for "bridging the gap" doesn't mean that the interactions between Satoko and Rika aren't clearly intended to be interpreted as romantic there. They aren't mutually exclusive

>>49644136
I was trying to make a "squash" joke

Shipping is cringe

>>49644203
What's even more cringe is these autists somehow trying to argue that THE MAIN MOST POPULAR ANIME representing Higurashi that clearly shows Satoko and Rika to be romantic is "not canon" or "just friendship". It's not even shipping it's literally just canon information.

>>49644184
Sure I think it's low quality. Just like everyone else who's read the VN.
But you can't argue against that other than making cowardly jabs like "you THINK" as if that's any argument.
At any rate she's changed into a different character.
So at this point it's LambdaRika. And a one sided decleration at that.
It's shown as a one sided chasing love. They fucked up turning Rika into Bern, so she can't even reciprocate the toxic obsession with verbal abuse of her own.

>>49644215
"The wise man does not repeat." -Antiquital poet

>>49644230
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>49644227
it's not LambdaRika it's SatoRika. It's still Satoko, canonically, at the end of the day. Is "LambdaRika" your new cope?
Also how is it "one sided" lol. You act like it's Satoko doing EVERYTHING like she's forcing Rika or something but Rika clearly loves her back as well, you would know if you actually watched Sotsu and Gou without being clearly biased and thinking they "were intended to be friends"

Don't care
Satokei won

>>49644255
That's Lambda though, were you not paying attention? She was called Vier as well.
Satoko is trapped in her own body.
You would get it if you read Umi.

>>49644264
Also that braindead portrayal of Rika being a powerless lovesick sap was corrected in the canon manga.

So we can say it's a one-sided LambdaRika obsession.

>>49644274
>canon manga
The canon manga? The one that still confirms SatoRika? LOL thanks retard

>>49644284
I keep telling you but you won't listen. I know it's confusing because of the ages but that pic is before the one I posted. Satoko turns into Lambda because she has a one sided jealousy. And Rika springs the trap to catch her after they go back to her childhood.
Lambda thwarted. Good end full of potential.

>>49644317
"Lambda thwarted" The manga still ends with Satorika. What are you on about
Again I think this is just your bias and denial influencing how you see the bond between them.

>>49644335
Dude that's just a Mei card.
You've run out of argumentation. All this bluster is just you trying to cover for the embarrassment of knowing like a quarter of the story, not reading any VN material. You'd realize the bond they have is stomped over if it's put together by force (murder and terror), and not by choice(what led to the St.Lucia jealousy and stupidity, which should've just been talked out if it were a good and faithful story).

>>49644353
There's no real argumentation necessary, it's already canon anyways, all this is unnecessary. Going through so many hoops just to say "they were just friends" "its actually just Lambda" "it's LambdaRika actually" "it's one sided"...
Just look at it the way it is, man. It's just canon, let's not kid ourselves anymore.
>The bond they have is stomped over if it's put together by force
Still canon, man, still canon.

Any arc that wasn't 100% written by R07 is trash. Any adaptation (except for Umistation) is trash.
Higurashi CH1-8 and Umineko CH1-8 are the only sources of full canon reliability. The rest is fanfiction.

>>49644284
Man what a fucking stupid story.
Glad the manga turned things around eventually.

>>49644373
With help of the greatest ship. Friendship!

>>49644373
Look at the rest of the manga
>>49644382
Keep telling yourself that it's "just friendship", it won't really change anything.

>>49644387
Yuributa retard, I'm saying the bonds of the club are friendship. Look at the image I posted at least. That's the true beauty of Higurashi.

>>49644403
Of course it is.
I don't really see how a Rena and Rika panel is related to Satorika, though.
Sure friendship is the main theme, but in Satoko and Rika's case it goes further than that. Romance

>>49644412
Cause canonically loving friendship beat one sided yandere romance obviously.

>>49644369
It's literally Lambda though. Eua calls her Vier.

>>49644416
..Romance is above friendship, though. They aren't mutually exclusive either..
are you trolling? have you gone insane?

>>49644436
Stop trying to cope.
Your yandere Lambda romance canonically lost to friendship.

>>49644448
Friendship between the club and romantic Satorika are both themes in Meguri, I don't really know what you mean. Again it's not one or the other. Do you think that friends can't start dating each other or something..?

>>49644458
>it's a theme! cope
Your yandere romance lost canonically to friendship. So we can say that canonically, the "theme" of romance is based in the moral that romantic yandere obsession isn't actually healthy.
Even when Ryu copes about it he calls it "gunk" in Satoko's heart. (her heart alone by the way)
So let's evolve the discussion to reflect this. The themes of the manga sotsu are: friendship triumphs and unhealthy romance.

>>49644467
and let's come back to this again:
regardless of whether you think the romance is "unhealthy", it's still made canon by the manga. It's still SatoRika, even if you think it's "unhealthy".
It didn't "lose", it's still there lol. All the way to the end

>>49644481
I accept your concession that the romance is an unhealthy obsession. If we think of it broadly as a theme, the "theme" unhealthy romance didn't disappear so it didn't lose, this is your argument. God how sad you've become. Congratulations. You've proved that the unhealthy obsessive love sticks around as a theme to the end.
>>49644263
Now please post more and cleanse the thread.

>>49644512
And congratulations to you, you have also admitted that the love is canon and stays until the end. Glad we have come to an agreement, at last. SatoRika wins forever, the unarguable pairing.

SatoRika sucks and it's just the schizophrenia of female posters

>>49644521
*lambdarika

>>49644537
Who cares, it's Satoko regardless. You are grasping at straws with your "LambdaRika" cope it's just worrying.
>>49644532
Nah you just don't like lesbian pairings lol.

>>49644545
It's obvious that a female is behind these posts and therefore your opinion is automatically incorrect, go back to the kitchen

>>49644545
Cope anime only. You fell for Vier/Lambda's trickery.

>>49644553
If it's really a yuributa woman she probably spends too much time in the kitchen if you get me

>>49644532
>>49644553
>Female

Satoko has stated to be in love with K1, and Rika has stated to be in love with Akasaka. That shipping is ooc and makes no sense.
Ryu07 doesn't know shit about Higurashi.

>>49645289
Rika just has some crushes on Akasaka and K1. She gets jealous of Rena in Rei but will ship when it's SatoKei.

>>49646901
Immediate sex, next question

>>49647614

Sipping my morning coffee reading the SatoRika schizos arguing about nothing knowing in my heart that Shion did nothing wrong and is best girl and nothing else matters

>>49647851
>open thread
>see it's still the same ironic shipfags arguing as always
>close thread
it's a simple life

>>49647863
Wouldn't want it any other way

daily satorika appreciation

>>49647923
she's thinking about satoko..

>>49647962
How thoughtful. She's always thinking about her friends.

>>49647976
It was this or the hot sauce

>>49648012

Kanon's black fingernails.

>>49647976
her girlfriend*

>>49648355
Buddy... just cause she kissed Hanyuu in the OP doesn't mean her greatgreatgreat grandma is like that

>>49648380
talking about satoko

>>49648471
I think you're confused. That's Hanyuu!

>>49648631
not funny

>>49648757
Your desperation is funny.

Rika really owns all the hearts in Hinamizawa.

I think after Silent Hill F Ryukishi will announce phase 1 is re-releasing with voice acting.

>>49648311
he's so fashionable

>>49649934
Honestly, it might be beneficial at this point to "refresh" Phase 1 like that before trying to release Phase 2, so people might actually give a shit.

>>49650866
Not just beneficial, it's a requirement. A phase 2 drop 6+ years later needs some buildup around it if he doesn't want Ciconia to flop harder the second time. (not that I believe a release is ever coming)

>>49650950
Surely the gacha and anime merch made enough money that he doesn't need to worry so much about the VN cost if Ciconia is a passion project. What sucked up the bulk of Ciconia 1's budget anyways? Music?

https://youtu.be/ghNw4xj36jo?si=0w3OfFwvSwOkhpGY

Were the edgy red eyes and evil smile that doesn't go well with her mood even necessary? Those visuals aren't even needed in order to show the change on her character, just a serious expression that isn't usual on her and the voice is more than enough.
I hate GouSotsu so fucking much.

>>49651783
It's never really made sense. It turns off and on for no reason, plus Bernkastel has pretty empty eyes, emphasizing her mystery and over some demon or mystic nature.

I think the gacha actually takes the eyes and uses them to symbolize a specific kind of "outbreak" syndrome which everyone can get. If I'm remembering right.

>>49651855
I remember completely wrong, it's yellow eyes for "dark awakening"

>>49651881
card crusher

>>49647851
Your morning coffee is wasted reading any argument that takes place here. I just skim through the thread every few days to look at the images.

daily satorika appreciation (canon!)

>>49652780

>>49652466
I know, but it's fun

>>49653059
Sorry but trans month is no more.

>>49651783
The witch eyes were thrown in there in order to make the gun cliffhanger's meaning very obvious when Satoko suddenly shows them. Yes, she's a looper with a hidden personality like Rika.

>>49651881
Mei really didn't want to touch on the witch eyes for some reason. They used them for Satoko and Rika variations but no one else. They made Natsumi a looper who even gets a "Witch" personality split scene like Satoko's (although by the end even witch Natsumi is helping the main cast) and yet no red eyes sprite or official card for her (Kito En's guest art for one of the card drew her with something very similar looking to Witch eyes though, but the sprites didn't acknowledge it and the card is officially just a 'True Syndrome outbreak" one).

>>49651195
Well, Ciconia had a much more complex effect scripts than Umineko, which was handled by an outside director/programmer.

As for the music, even though it had much less bgms than Umineko, and even went back to using free ones like Higurashi, all Ciconia tracks were made to order by R07, created specifically for the scenes where he wanted to use them, while previously he just took various tracks from the composers and then figured out where they'd be used.

>>49654096
satorika is forever though

>>49655150
Satoko married Kimiyoshi in canon though.
I think that ship is already at the bottom of the sea.

>>49656041
Holy fuck

>>49656041
Keiichi is so lucky...

>>49655662
K1miyoshi*

>>49655662
R07 from the start said Reiwa was just a random fragment.

The manga performed badly and Natsumi Kei used to complain on twitter about the lack of reprints.

It's also co-owned by Square-Enix, which puts a licensing issue on top of it all.

Basically, that's a fragment destined to oblivion.

>>49651195
>>49654844
Apocalypsis Ciconia (both versions) is worth every penny.

>>49654820
>when Satoko suddenly shows them
Thing that could've also be done by just showing her with an unnatural evil/serious face, hell just her taking a gun out of there would be enough to show that something isn't right with her. Without needing to give them the edgy sharingan.

>Kimiyoshi
>three families, deserved
>Rika
>three families, deserved
>Oryou
>three families, evil hag, deserved
>Satoko
>whinny brat, deserved
>K1
>annoying brat, deserved
>Mion
>lying snake, deserved

when they blush

daily satorika appreciation!!! huge win recently!!! in the new higurashi story WRITTEN BY RYUKISHI he's still going with the gou sotsu narrative!! even more proof that SatoRika is canon, literally even coming from Ryukishi. wonder what random bs that one guy in this thread will pull to somehow try and debunk this one lol. Satorika ftw forever canon
https://07th-expansion.net/event/sonminsyukai/20250622watanagashi.pdf

Sotsugou is anti-SatoRika pilled (the interview confirms it).

>>49659016
No the interview says its a yuri

>>49659383
It's time to let it go, anon

>>49659016
The show itself confirms it (she was trying to resist the insane yandere witch lambda inside her)
(the yuritranny cannot argue against this because he hasn't even read Umineko)

>>49659443
look 3 posts above!
>>49658225
why let it go when we literally just got new satorika content from ryukishi yesterday??

>>49659479
Doesn't mean that Satoko doesn't love Rika eitherway. Even ryukishi is saying that, again look at >>49658225

>>49658225
Bro you're 9 days late
>>49611024
Why are you so desperate

>>49659481
It's SotsuGou therefore peak anti-SatoRika.

>>49659821
next level cope...

>>49659883
Let it go.

>>49655150
Imagine being a new dude to higurashi, finishing the VN and Anime and thinking maybe the last part you haven't watched yet wasnt as bad as you were told, only to come to 4chan to see half a entire fucking thread talking about what equates to shipping wars and your favorite character getting reduced to force pairing for a person that, to me, seemed to never had any romantic feelings in any part of it. Was it really that bad that this is all I see anymore? A desperate person yelling that a ship that couldn't really exist must exist canonically because of a thing that my freinds told me was, by the larger part of the community, deemed non-canon for character assassination?
All your pedantic shit has only reinforced what ive heard from others and I can feel myself never want to see anything about it ever again
SatoMion feels more real then whatever your drivel is.

>>49660106
satomion...
anyways it doesnt matter if you or your friends think it's "non-canon" as it IS canon... you should accept that. why does a lesbian pairing bother you so much, hmm?

>>49659889
Let your cope go and accept Sotsu and Gou are the most official continuation Higurashi currently has and will have

>>49660106
Have you read Umineko? There are witches that are engaged in a nasty guro heavy romance where the blonde is obsessively chasing Bernkastel.

Basically at it's heart sotsu is attempting to create an origin story for the witches. That's why it feels so out of character. It's plot first, character last.

And the guy who's obsessed with this pairing is pretty new. He's been arguing for like a month now, but he has literally no arguments. When confronted with Lambda's existence he has no idea who she really was. Before him the yuri shit was pretty much not talked about cause it's just boring window dressing for the witches.

>>49660265
About Lambda, it doesn't really matter because the CHARACTER IS STILL SATOKO. and SATOKO STILL LOVES RIKA REGARDLESS
It's literally a non-issue, it's just cope you have overblown. Lmao "LambdaRika"

>>49660265
Honestly I just got done with Higurashi and was thinking about moving to Umineko but haven't jumped the gap yet because of not watching the last bit of Higurashi. So I thought skimming to see if maybe I was misinformed about the last anime was a good thing, and I learned heartily that they were right, if it caused this stuff then I gotta say, it ain't worth watching till I get to after Umineko or whatever would be the stopping point.
Because it really is sad to see this is how it is

>>49660230
Yes. I, anon mcshmee, looking at satomion, a lesbian pairing, am a rabidly homophobic anon who went into a mostly girl dominated series not liking lesbian pairings instead of the obvious thing of seeing a good character warped into something they are not getting paired with someone who had not a single inkling of interest in a relationship with the character. It couldnt be the obvious thing, it has to be that I hate lesbains.
Even i, a new person with zero context in Umineko, can see your full of shit and any conversation with you is conversing with a fuckwit who has no argument aside from mudslinging.

>>49660304
Yeah I recommend watching shitsugou after everything good like Umi, Higanbana and all that. It sours you on the world. The forced yuri is just one tiny part of it. Satoko literally re-does Tatarigoroshi, except this time she rolls around in the dirt and PRETENDS to be abused by Teppei whom she befriends. It's utter madness, she laughs at her own abuse which was treated with such importance and care by Ryukishi originally.
And then read the manga for a pallet cleanser, since the mangaka changed the ending at the last moment to make it way more in character.

>>49660462
I like how you call Meguri a "palate cleanser" despite it still having canon SatoRika something you seem to hate so much.
Maybe it's simply because you don't like Sotsu and Gou and less about actual SatoRika. You'll accept it soon enough.

>>49658134
holy fucking based anon....

>>49660499
>Maybe it's simply because you don't like Sotsu and Gou and less about actual SatoRika
Finally you utter fucking moron. You realize you've been making up a strawman to attack me this whole time.
Sotsugou is utter out of character trash and you loving it means you don't actually give a damn about Rika or Satoko's characters. You're literally just like smashing the blue and yellow figurines together to make them smooch. If you care at all about "satorika" you'd hate sotsu as well for what it did to them.
Case in point you keep posting this
>>49644284
but totally ignore what that evil evil scene is actually about
>>49644373

>>49660563
Putting aside how we both feel about Sotsu and Gou, since it's clear that it's a sensitive topic for you, we can still conclude that SatoRika is canon beyond a doubt, I'm glad we could agree on that. I still think the manga is a better alternative and I'm glad it changed course to satisfy the fans who hate on Sotsu and Gou while still letting Satoko and Rika be together.
I have no idea why you were so insistent that they "weren't canon" even not looking at Sotsu and Gou, especially with the whole "friendship" shit, but it seems like you finally understand. SatoRika is indeed forever.

>>49660577
There were like three people arguing with you, your problem is you're too stupid to understand that maybe you're arguing with different people at different times on different subjects.
I never once cared about what's canon. I only care about quality and character.
On that subject I don't think you actually understand why turning Satoko into a friend betraying evil killer is such a horrific idea. Or having her possessed by a witch version of herself. Or having her witness Rika's past and her hidden personality and thinking "okay whatever"

I don't think you're an actual satorika fan. Explain to me why you're down for Satoko to witness Rika's alternate personality, and her hidden loops, and not give a shit. By all rights that should be a huge moment of reflection and realization. It should change the way she sees Rika completely. They should confront each other about it. But you don't care. You're clearly a fake satorika fan.

>>49660577
Also, the whole catalyst for this retarded story is Rika becoming obsessed with St.Lucia (for plot reasons) and then ignoring Satoko while she's there. Rika after Matsuribayashi would never ever do that. That's anti satorika, it makes her cold towards Satoko for the sake of plot. This ill conceived ship would be better off without sotsu's entire premise.

>>49660651
I just like 2 cute girls being in love with each other. Satoko and Rika are just that.
>>49660674
>"putting aside sotsu and gou"
>brings up sotsu
There is nothing that can be done.

>>49660683
>ctrl f putting aside sotsu and gou
>1 hit
You're having arguments inside your own head at this point.

>>49660757
nvm I see what you said.
You can't put aside sotsu while talking about sotsu though stop being such a slippery snake.

>>49660683
Nice thumbnail fake fan.

Anime only should shut up and listen to VN readers.
At least satokeifag read Tatari like 20 times. Every day I gain more respect for him.

>>49660763
Retard.
Anyways, I wasn't talking about Sotsu here >>49660577 I was speaking about it in general. I literally just said SatoRika is canon even without needing Sotsu and Gou. That's all, Sotsu wasn't brought up.

>>49660787
animeonly fake fan you wouldn't even know anything outside of sotsu so I don't know why you try to talk outside it.

>>49660802
>i can't cope with satorika being canon so i'll call you a fake fan
Tough

>>49660805
You're a fake fan cause you thought Rei the VN epilogue was a fucking non Ryukishi manga. The epilogue that sets up the difference between a witch's morality and a human's morality (very important for how sotsu fucked up your ship) You're obsessed with a ship you don't know the first thing about, posting shipping thumbnails you're probably frantically searching for on google.
That's why you're a fake fan.
Read the VN

which one has a more devoted fanbase? higurashi or umineko

>>49660822
Higurashi cause Umineko automatically lost 70% of fans when chapter 8 released.

>>49660822
umineko's fanbase is more devoted, but smaller
that is not necessarily a good thing

I'm reading Umineko 7 and I'm kind of confused
Since Shannon/Kanon is the baby from 19 years ago and that baby is constantly referred to as a male baby I'm fine with accepting that they're biologically male.
My question though is, why would Genji trans him after the accident? Wouldn't that just make Kinzo want to rape him more if he ever ended up looking like his Beatrice?
Was it done as a test by Genji to see whether his friend would rape his own "daughter" a second time? Seems kind of messed up to fuck up the mutilated kid's life even more by raising them as their opposite sex just for your own curiosity.

I'm tired of hearing that EP8 is le bad

Takanobros, was it fair?

>>49661144
The general idea, even if there was no gender change, is that his/her sex organs were just mutilated by the fall (or even from birth due to the 2nd generation incest). If there was a gender change afterwards, it's just because it's how Nanjo managed to put them back together in a way that would raise least amount of suspicions.

And Umineko 7 itself talks about how referencing the baby as male is done just for convenience, since it's how the previous forgery in ep5 treated it, and there are other forgeries where it was female too.

Although the fact R07 didn't even bother writing a full chapter with a clearly female Yaso, just noting it's a possibility, does make it lean heavier on the male side and like he just wanted to avoid backlash.

>>49661260
>Ryukishi outright says Lambda's face doesn't resemble Takano's in spite of sharing similar colors for hair and eyes.

And I mean in an interview before Episode 4 was out, not something modern.

>Tons of people still draw Lambda with Takano's face and some even change her bangs to match Takano's (giving her that long loose bang in the middle)

>>49661144
people forget genji and kumasawa were evil
they enabled kinzo while he raped his teenaged daughter
at least they seemed to atone for it by letting yasu bomb them all (if she had gotten the chance to)

>>49644512
It's crazy how much this ship drives that Yuritroon insane lmao especially since it's cute and canon!

>>49661377
He's the kind of cancer that is created when you watch gou sotsu only, nothing else. No wonder he doesn't even know about anything that happens in Tatari.

>>49660757
>You're having arguments inside your own head at this point.
Tell me something that the actual shit fanbase of WTC isn´t at this point, besides pointless shipping "battles"...

>>49661144
Not worries, ep 7 is when everything goes down hill due to how bad Hackysi07 is in regards of doing world/universe/lore building.

>>49658134
Don't forget she killed Shion, too.
She really is a hero.

>>49662421
mion

>>49660243
This, but it's an anti-SatoRika masterpiece.

During this scene how much of it was Shion's HS and how much was real? For example she didn't know about Takano and Tomitake dying so Mion had to be the one who told her, but don't think she either had her serious Sonozaki heir voice, or grab her by the collar.

>>49663652
Yeah, I generally assume it was like Keiichi's situation. Voice/Tone are off, but what she's saying is real.

Satoko and even Shion herself see illusions, but I think the first R07 had the viewer outright watching from the main perspective entire fake scenes due to Hinamizawa syndrome was in the Onisarashi manga Before that, in the VN proper, at least when it's the characters' point of view, it's always just enhanced reality.

>>49661144
>Seems kind of messed up to fuck up the mutilated kid's life even more by raising them as their opposite sex just for your own curiosity
That's probably the most realistic part of the whole situation. Ryukishi was very ahead of his time if you really think about it.
>>49663652
It's a console CG so I wouldn't take it too seriously and focus more on the actual written descriptions. I think the amount of paranoia and delusion it would take to make you think you are physically being grabbed by the collar would leave you basically incapable of operating.

daily satorika appreciation

>>49663543
You are a retard if you think Gou and Sotsu are "anti SatoRika" or you have watched it with your eyes closed

>>49664566
Let it go anon

>>49661144
>and that baby is constantly referred to as a male baby I'm fine with accepting that they're biologically male.
When does that happen?

>>49661144

>>49664813
This is painfully ESL, you guys need better material to copy and paste in place of your own words.

>>49664895
Not recognising the work of italianon really shows how this general's population has changed.

>>49666898
>jobs

>>49665421
You mean it's lost it's samefags
Reminder that guy was molested as a child so loli is his weak point.

>>49667768
his much more hilarious weakpoint is that he CANNOT stop seeing feminine men and assuming they're women, as far as i see it any logic behind his 'thesis' beyond wanting to fuck kanon went out the window when he started trying to push that the SMTV protag was a girl

>>49668920
chad

>>49668920
stacy <3

Fair point y'all

>>49671243
Typical bunch of nothing writted by someone who only cares about getting paid.

>>49671243
I fondly remember deleting Takano from the game files to win

>>49671243
>want to believe this is some shitpost
>look up article title
>it's real
GOUGE THE HEAD AND KILL

fumofumo

Would a playlist looping between worldend (babypiano) and goldenslaughterer on the car stereo during a long drive be effective in sending a message to my abortion-indifferent blonde friend?

There’s a wedding coming up. I’ll be driving down for three hours, and an old friend (who made me read the manga for Umineko) will be joining me. I don't want to cause a fight, and she isn't the type to either, but since she said it was just a procedure and would do it again, I just want to make a quiet appeal. Is this plan good or is it too stupid?

>>49673193
xdddd

>>49628001
While that sort of magic is interesting, an interesting answer to that school of magic is to give equal power to all involved or cause nuclear Armageddon trying. When a select few humans try to act like gods, raise all humanity that are willing to participate to that same level. Becoming their own gods. Let them fight it out, join forces, conquer, or live in peace as their own masters. If there is any love hidden, it may be revealed before the apocalypse or before humanity ascends to the next stage of evolution.

First time I notice her calling out for Hanyuu while being in pain and about to die when fighting Shion, really sad

Where can I find a full set of the backgrounds used in the Alchemist Umineko? Is it on the OneDrive?

>>49674172
Specifically looking for the background used here. It's not on the wiki either here
https://07th-expansion.fandom.com/wiki/Purgatorio
or here
https://07th-expansion.fandom.com/wiki/Meta-World/Backgrounds#Console_

>>49671243
tbf how the fuck else are you gonna explain higurashi to a normie reading gamesradar

>>49661279
Lambda didn't resemble adult Takano as much but she was pretty close to child Takano.

>>49674275
I guess kids don't watch Twin Peaks anymore.

>>49674275
"Normies" don't play DDLC.

>>49674935
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKgNdM1jPe0&ab_channel=jacksepticeye

>>49674245
The butterflies are a secondary effect over the BG. It's not a BG of its own. Magic isn't real, y'know?

>>49676394
Yes, I wasn't talking about the effect but the BG of the Purgatorio tea room with the door in the centre rather than the other BG with the table, which you have posted. This was just the first image I found of it on a search. If I could find a clean image of the BG I wouldn't be asking this.

>>49676427
here you go, little man

>>49676513
Thank you.

>>49675039
I know what DDLC is, why are you linking to a let's play?

>>49674829
that one requires you to not have focus issues

>>49676709
he owned you epically by taking what you said extremely literally, as if "normies" do let's plays
what a dummyyyy

daily satorika appreciation :)

leave >>>/vg/530155350
alone

thanks

>>49678822
anon we're so dead at this point you've just gotta accept the call is coming from inside the house

Cute? Yes.
Canon? Very much so!

1. Both the narrator and the characters remark on how Kanon is weak/unmasculine/looks younger than he is, while Shannon is not ugly or androgynous and the fake tits are the only un-feminine thing about her.
2. Yasu designed Kanon after Battler didn't return to the family gathering. She couldn't see the boy she liked anymore, so she made up an imaginary one. If a male Yasu had created Kanon to "return" to his birth gender, he would have followed a different dynamic. When Battler returned, Kanon took a subordinate role. Because he wasn't needed anymore.
3. Kanon looks like an FtM transgender's idea of a boy. This is very subjective, but I think some will still agree. Also, Shannon is the one who takes all the abuse from Natsuhi, Kanon is the one who cheers her up. Shannon is Yasu's "real self", Kanon is a form of Yasu's "ideal self" (like Beatrice also is). If Yasu had been born male, it would be the other way around; Yasu would feel comfortable being Kanon but would desire to be more like Shannon.
4. Yasu, Shannon and especially Beatrice are written like women. The whole game where she's playing hard to get and trying to make Battler remember his promise instead of telling him is a very woman-like thing to do. Again, subjective.
5. Why would a male baby, who would not have ended up looking like Beatrice 1 and 2, need to be hidden from Kinzo? At no point does he display any homosexual tendencies.
6. The whole "body who is unable to love" theme reads, TO ME, like a reference to the mutilation itself and not to Yasu being the wrong sex to pair up with Battler.

>>49679019
this is canon actually hope this helps!

>>49679274
...is that a reddit filename?

>>49679145
Sayo grew up hating her face. It's in the script that she disliked mirrors. She IS ugly without makeup (something Kumasawa-sensei could teach like magic).

A body unable to love is unable to love. Male or female. A lesser touched on aspect of Yasu's character is how desperately he wants to fuck Jessica but can't.

>>49679019
Blessed kakera
>>49679274
Cursed kakera

>>49679019
K1 is such a happy cuck raising Mr. Kimiyoshi's daughter!

>>49679924
This, except in canon the other way around.

>>49661216
Episode 8 is good. Episode 7 is bad. Simple as

>>49680120
They're both great.

>>49679019
Baby sakiko is so kyute she's gonna be such a good older sister to Keitarou!

>almost got the best possible ending on Meakashi
Fuck Takano that seething bitch.

>>49680120
They're both shit

>>49680754
what is that, the alternate console shit?

>>49680960
Bad end where K1 figures out Shion's pretending to be Mion before she kills them, and she ends up ripping her throat due to L5

>satorika
don't give a shit. gimme hot shmion on shmion action.

>>49681600

>>49681600

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6tuXpfHQls

>>49682429
At the end of the stream, Beako teased a new announcement on twitter, July 15 (Battler's birthday).

Did I hallucinate that there was more to Higanbana than the first and second night? I have no idea what I might be thinking about

>>49683868
Chances are I was thinking of Higanbana - Extra Credit , which has like 2 new stories.

>>49683868
>>49683952

There was "The Inhuman Teacher", a short story, then scripts for 4 cast parties R07 ended up not implementing in 1stnight, and a recent new story he wrote for a fan anthology, "Marie's Utopia".

The "Extra Credit" fan translation converts them to VN format.

https://airdrakis.itch.io/higanbana-no-saku-yoru-ni-extra-credit

>>49683402
is it finally happening?

>>49622985
do what?

>>49625026
Who made this?

>>49633711
It was just SH.

>>49632203
No.

>>49685648
I love this person's stuff, the style imitation is near-perfect

>>49688527
Who is that?

shion?