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Anonymous No.49685657 >>49686007 >>49694889 >>49704960 >>49706307 >>49740970 >>49751841
/07/th Expansion Thread
Discussion concerning Higurashi, Umineko, Ciconia, Rose Guns Days, Higanbana, TRianThology, and all other 07th Expansion works.

β–Ί 07th Expansion links: https://rentry.co/07th-exp

Previous thread: >>49616670
Anonymous No.49686007
>>49685657 (OP)
>3dpd
real thread doko?
Anonymous No.49686057 >>49689097
RENA FIRST HIGU GIRL POSTED. THIS IS HER THREAD NOW
Anonymous No.49686059 >>49689097
another one of this kyutie cuz y not
Anonymous No.49686423 >>49686769
Anonymous No.49686769 >>49686902 >>49687053
>>49686423
Why am I on the ground?
Anonymous No.49686902
>>49686769
you tropped and fell
Anonymous No.49687053
>>49686769
You're taking a low angle shot cause it's cool
Anonymous No.49687265 >>49688216
The woman in the OP seems like she needs a steaming hot bath.
Anonymous No.49687447
DAILY SATORIKA APPRECIATION IN THE NEW THREAD!!
Anonymous No.49688216 >>49691035
>>49687265
This woman seems like she had her neovagina stitches undone the last time she had a shower.
Anonymous No.49689097
>>49686057
>>49686059
Rena is best girl!
Anonymous No.49691035 >>49691201
>>49688216
Even in Japan american politics take hold...
Anonymous No.49691201 >>49691423
>>49691035
Never compare American politics to Troonppei's neovagina, "please".
Anonymous No.49691234 >>49691245 >>49691449 >>49693732
am i safe now? can i spam rika finally
Anonymous No.49691245
>>49691234
Sup ryko
Anonymous No.49691423
>>49691201
I didn't compare them.
Anonymous No.49691449
>>49691234
No.
Anonymous No.49693604
Ryukishi is a lazy faggot
Anonymous No.49693732
>>49691234
You are free.
Anonymous No.49694889 >>49694896 >>49696239 >>49696268
>>49685657 (OP)
Happy birthday to my girls.
Anonymous No.49694896
>>49694889
happy birthday!
Anonymous No.49696239
>>49694889
HBD
Anonymous No.49696268 >>49696283 >>49696359
>>49694889
Ooishis cumdump
Anonymous No.49696283
>>49696268
But enough about Keiichi
Anonymous No.49696359
>>49696268
Troonppei mentioned
Anonymous No.49696682 >>49697100
Anonymous No.49696871
Does anyone know where I can get the original umineko nowadays in japanese?
Anonymous No.49697100 >>49699225 >>49699860
>>49696682
Who is she? Another Vier?
Anonymous No.49697795 >>49698722 >>49698834
Okay, no offense, but I am almost done with Higurashi and it feels like a shitty, chinky Twin Peaks. You have a quaint, small town filled with interesting characters and what appears to be a straightforward murder mystery but there turns out to be supernatural shit and secret deranged government research. Not saying they can't both exist but I am not impressed.
Anonymous No.49698424 >>49699899 >>49708867
Keiichi? Luckiest man in Hinamizawa.
Anonymous No.49698722 >>49701860
>>49697795
You're not impressed because of surface level appearances? I like comparing Higurashi and TP myself but it's all completely different, there's a group of kid main characters and no agent Cooper (no Akasaka is definately not Cooper), you learn to doubt the village itself as early as chapter 1 while in TP the town is strange but from day 1 always has it's own trustworthy and good element. TP goes into the surreal in a way that Higurashi never does. Higurashi hones in on little details in a way that TP doesn't (probably cause it's a written medium and can have you read articles for hours).

There's no way you're a Twin Peaks fan.
Anonymous No.49698834 >>49701860
>>49697795
You need to finish it to have a chance at really understanding what it's about, but I can tell you the point is not the mass virus plot.
If you're comparing it to Twin Peaks you need to really change your angle, because at no point is higurashi supposed to be about "the mystery".
Anonymous No.49699225
>>49697100
featherine
Anonymous No.49699860 >>49700193
>>49697100
Sheshart
Anonymous No.49699899 >>49708867
>>49698424
too sexo
Anonymous No.49700193
>>49699860
sheshart....where?
Anonymous No.49700587
Anonymous No.49701860 >>49702441
>>49698722
>>49698834
Focusing on the mystery or the ""horror"" elements of Higurashi means missing the point entirely.
Anonymous No.49702441 >>49710278 >>49712748
>>49701860
I don't think so, you can have a go at Higurashi as a full mystery fan and have fun. You can acknowledge the moral messages and motivations and all the other stuff while maintaining "focus" on the mystery. It's just Umi that gets weird about it's own genre at the end.
Anonymous No.49703053
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/132538450
Anonymous No.49704297 >>49704783 >>49706357 >>49719625
Umineko project or Witch hunt which is better?
Anonymous No.49704783
>>49704297
Anime
Anonymous No.49704960
>>49685657 (OP)
How'd you get a photo of me?
Anonymous No.49706307 >>49708822
>>49685657 (OP)
how can the solution of this generated "closed room mystery" still be less of a letdown than the canon solutions we got to Umineko closed rooms?
Anonymous No.49706357
>>49704297
I've only ever used witch hunt so IDK
Anonymous No.49706881
Anonymous No.49707420
@grok generate kiconia pt.2 make all the black ppl die
Anonymous No.49708822 >>49708991 >>49719653
>>49706307
Because people don't want to admit that Ryukishi was a massive hack fraud and that they wasted years of their lives on badly written franchises that pander to women.
Anonymous No.49708833 >>49708991
it's always the people who hate stuff the most who hang around the longest, huh
Anonymous No.49708867
>>49698424
>>49699899
The Maebara-Houjou clan will dominate the village
Anonymous No.49708991 >>49709916 >>49714303 >>49719653 >>49719851 >>49735247
>>49708822
>pander to women
How? I genuinely laugh at the retards who call it peak feminist writing, let's see
>Natsuhi
she murdered a child and a servant just because she couldn't bear children at the time, and she's form a high ranked family of priests. she always act like a delusional retard.
>Rosa
a child abuser and a literal whore, she actively went out of her way to neglect Maria instead of getting a babysitter? she's not smart to even get a proper business going
>Eva
a cutthroat piece of shit who was bitter to the very end, she's as bad as Kyrie
>Kyrie
a straight up yakuza figure, no better than her family
>Kumasawa
she's an accomplice and a piece of shit, only in it for the money
>Maria
an abused child with no real future even if she managed to survive
>Ange
pathetic
>Jessica
incompetent but arguably the most normal teenager out of the bunch
>Shanon/yasuda
a literal mentally deranged who actively formed romantic relationships with almost all the cousins
>the witches
all cruel bitches
>the servants
bitches
>the classmates
bitches

not a single female figure was show in good light, and the "trans figure" that Beatrice represent is of a literal second generation incest deformed baby and a fucked up mentally ill criminal.
yes it showed some of the struggles that women endured during that era, but the majority of female characters are psychopaths.

>>49708833
without hate/spite it cannot be seen
Anonymous No.49709916 >>49710102
>>49708991
The boys are just depicted retarded and pathetic, the femoids are evil but at least they are intelligent.
Anonymous No.49710102
>>49709916
then shouldn't troons praise chinese novels? in chinese writing the women are straight up psychopaths always scheming for only their benefit, men doesn't get to be competent unless they're the MC or the villain.

that being said, Kinzo is technically competent regardless of his delusions, Rudolf and Hideyoshi are somewhat okay, Genji would've been interesting if his compliance was explained a little bit further.
there's also Will, a perfect version of Battler.
Anonymous No.49710278
>>49702441
The people who do this will disregard Higurashi and won't get any enjoyment out of it.
>That one e-celeb faggot
Anonymous No.49712748
>>49702441
>and have fun
True you are greatly rewarded if you expect an actual mystery in Higurashi
Anonymous No.49713267 >>49713310 >>49713324 >>49713666 >>49713792
Place your bets on tomorrow's 07th announcement
>1. Another Higu manga spinoff
>2. Non WTC original VN
>3. Umi manga reprint
>4. Phase 2 (lol)
>5. Umineko Anime Remake (lmao)
Anonymous No.49713310
>>49713267
>6. fucking nothing
Anonymous No.49713324
>>49713267
7. RyΕ«kishi coming out
Anonymous No.49713666 >>49713914
>>49713267
Satoko will be deleted from all canon material.
Anonymous No.49713792
>>49713267
Umineko Gou, Beatrice will come out as trans and it will be revealed that it's connected with the spinal cords and that it's all a simulation that ange helped funded with the Ushiromiya wealth with the trick ending being canon.
Anonymous No.49713889
https://x.com/umineko_20th/status/1944773922001744194
Anonymous No.49713891 >>49714695
And what's this
Anonymous No.49713914 >>49714019 >>49714429 >>49766195
>>49713666
That would mean you have to delete Teppei, too, we can't have that, Satan.
Anonymous No.49714019
>>49713914
Kill yourself
Anonymous No.49714303
>>49708991
>without hate/spite it cannot be seen
Thank you for describe the true nature of Hackysi07.
Anonymous No.49714429 >>49723314
>>49713914
Bold of you to consider that Troonppei won't 41% herself is Satoko is alive.
Anonymous No.49714695 >>49715163 >>49715602 >>49716039 >>49716172 >>49720175
>>49713891
Umineko 20th anniversary twitter account, "Cafe Quadrillion". The name is not an actual cafe (?) apparently, just a reference to the "Kuwadorian".
Anonymous No.49715163 >>49716876
>>49714695
So Ryukishi is giving up writing and opening a cafe? Great.
Anonymous No.49715602
>>49714695
>Kuwadorian = Quadrillion
I feel like the dumbest gaijin ever.
Anonymous No.49716039
>>49714695
I've read enough of The Last Church to know where this is going...
Anonymous No.49716172
>>49714695
If a Japanese writer opens a cafe, he's a stupid, blind coward who hasn't recognized the obvious.
If there are already maid cafes in Spain, this in no way means that Spaniards have figured something out that the average Japanese child of man haven't.
Anonymous No.49716691
https://youtu.be/cXC6rasajmo?feature=shared
Anonymous No.49716876
>>49715163
a deconstruction of coffee, which means he personally comes and slams your face in a box of ungrinded coffee
he does this while crossdressing of course
Anonymous No.49716977 >>49717003 >>49717392 >>49744425
Anonymous No.49717003
>>49716977
Checked and
Anonymous No.49717344 >>49719846 >>49724210
oh so basically this is just edgy tiktoker thread, weird and pretty disappointing.
Anonymous No.49717392
>>49716977
raping erika
Anonymous No.49719534
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2wt-SlkAcU
Anonymous No.49719625
>>49704297
Neither. If you don't play vanilla you're reading fanfic
Anonymous No.49719653 >>49719830 >>49721034
>>49708822
>>49708991
I think it has a more universal appeal because it's more honest about the actual challenges women face in society.
If anything I'd say Ryukishi is very humanist. Umineko's "how" is less important than the "why", which is why it filters people because they're used to dogshit anime and mystery tropes where everything is whisked away with Sherlockisms without any regard to the health of the world the mysteries take place in.
Anonymous No.49719830
>>49719653
Anon
You're not allowed to praise Umineko in this thread
Anonymous No.49719846 >>49721550
>>49717344
Umineko is the OP pic, what did you expect
Anonymous No.49719851
>>49708991
>it's not good representation unless the women are heckin decent human beings
You're the mirror image of feminists.
Anonymous No.49720175
>>49714695
>Umineko 20th anniversary
That's still a while from now, isn't it?
Anonymous No.49721034
>>49719653
"Why" is extremely important in Sherlock's and Poirot's mysteries. In fact there's a certain Christie novel I absolutely love cause I actually guessed it based on the motive, figuring out the killer in that one was 90% motive.
I don't know what "health" of the world you're talking about but detectives are there to pick up the pieces of a tragedy that's already happened and piece it back together for justice. Famous detectives like Holmes show plenty of sympathy and care, but they can't restore what's lost. They can't do anything but find the truth, avenge the victim and protect who's left because they can't use magic to put people back together.
Anonymous No.49721550
>>49719846
the higurashi ones are equally as bad it's clearly just the same normalfags over and over. they take photos of their desecrated figures covered in glitter and stickers with the thread visable in the background. which is a shame considering you're destroying figures for basically a dumbass photo op that no one will ever care about, probably smoking around them too so now the figures are not only worthless but smell like a nigger on top of it. new waves of these dumbass kids get brought into the trend too and never fuck off. it's like this no matter what kind of board you go on too. i gave up ever thinking the old ways would come back. these stupid role players have ruined every fucking place online you can go to. seriously fuck off already and stay in your dumbass discord servers. bring back loli gore porn and gate keeping so these dumbasses can't even look at this place anymore. fucking idiots.no one is gonna care you use fucking 4chan when it's basically just instagram feed at this point
Anonymous No.49723314
>>49714429
Guess Keiichi will kill himself first, as he is the one that actually is trans since he crossdresses.
Anonymous No.49724210 >>49725077
>>49717344
He (Keiichi) crossdresses, but she (troonppei) transitions.
No boy can be a match for a true trans queen <3
Anonymous No.49724451 >>49728448 >>49728459 >>49728751 >>49733964 >>49741724
If Umineko happened 10-12 years earlier and within Higurashi's verse, would Satoko befriend Enje at St Lucia? As fellow loners failling to fit in.
Anonymous No.49725077 >>49725618
>>49724210
what
Anonymous No.49725618 >>49727336
>>49725077
Did I stutter?
Anonymous No.49726270
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1945742521252155788
Anonymous No.49727336 >>49727420
>>49725618
No, but you missed.
Anonymous No.49727420 >>49731466
>>49727336
Is this a convulted reference to the Hit or Miss viral marketing meme?
Anonymous No.49728135 >>49728168
i can't believe i got tricked into reading 4000 pages of a gay/trans romance...
Anonymous No.49728168 >>49731480
>>49728135
Ryukishi is the ultimate troll. I can't wait for Silent Hill f to come out. I'm expecting a good 8.5/10 game with multiple endings, the true ending being absolutely terrible and ruining the whole experience.
Anonymous No.49728331 >>49731498
Ryukishi should write 4000 pages of a Satoko x K1 slice of life
Anonymous No.49728448 >>49728878
>>49724451
Shion, Ange, and Satoko would bond over having the biggest tits at St. Lucia. Rika would be seething in the corner.
Anonymous No.49728459
>>49724451
Satoko was deliberately not fitting in.
Anonymous No.49728751 >>49728878
>>49724451
Satoko, Enje, sex with each other with maybe Shion joining in when they espace from St Lucia at night thanks to Shion's secret espace road while Rika watch from the corner happily.
Anonymous No.49728878
>>49728448
>>49728751
satoko-enje combo...
Anonymous No.49731296 >>49732989
Anonymous No.49731466 >>49731490
>>49727420
No.
Anonymous No.49731480
>>49728168
bet the f means faggot and it's about some gay people finding out their true gay feelings and doing gay shit
Anonymous No.49731490
>>49731466
"The very adorable thing about nip women is how petite they are. I walked by some tourists during the summer and I was 3 heads taller than the tallest girl that was walking with a couple of her friends.
It was hilarious, I started following them for a couple of blocks and one could see how afraid they were of this massive beast coming towards them at a brisk pace. I started panting after a while and I could swear I heard one of them whisper "hidoi" out loud. I was hurt, so I screamed "OI, ONNA" at the top of my lungs (my voice's volume has been measured before and it reached 118 decibels) and then I turned around and left.
I fapped when remembering the events afterwards."
I hate this general so much
Anonymous No.49731498
>>49728331
Old Ryukishi maybe, I don't trust modern Ryukishi when it comes to writing anything Satoko related in the slightest
Anonymous No.49731504 >>49731517
sat
Anonymous No.49731517 >>49731540
>>49731504
Angeltoko!
Anonymous No.49731540
>>49731517
8D
Anonymous No.49731708 >>49731788
Keiichi and Satoko sitting in a tree, K I S S I N G!
Anonymous No.49731788 >>49732301 >>49732310
>>49731708
So cute....
Anonymous No.49732301 >>49732310
>>49731788
... and so canon!
Anonymous No.49732310
>>49731788
>>49732301
Based!
Anonymous No.49732853 >>49732944 >>49733954 >>49736213
How would've things went if Rena asked Kasai for help with Rina and Teppei rather than killing them both herself? Would he have helped her?
Anonymous No.49732944
>>49732853
His car just hanging around in Hinamizawa was enough to get the police on him, Kasai would probably be limited in what he could do even if he wanted to.
He probably would've just given her some advice or a warning on the path she's going down, I imagine he'd tell the twins and they'd learn of the state Rena was in..
Anonymous No.49732989 >>49733653 >>49733964
>>49731296
Hanyuu watching Rika feasting on the spectacle that is sex between Enje and Satoko at St Lucia
Anonymous No.49733653 >>49744384
>>49732989
Ange belongs to "Mammon's" fingers. It's a proper catholic school. Houjo-san crushed herself with the chandelier, it was metal.
Anonymous No.49733954
>>49732853
Anonymous No.49733964
>>49724451
>>49732989
What is this, lesbo jealousy fanfic? I honestly think you are severely underestimating Ange's autism, and overselling Satoko's (though that's' that anime's fault of course)
Anonymous No.49735247 >>49735440 >>49735782
>>49708991
That Umineko women are shitty in realistic ways is why women like them. Back in the 60s/70s, Japanese feminists defended mothers who killed their children, and no, I'm not talking about abortion.
Anonymous No.49735440
>>49735247
But enough about the real reason of the plot of Ciconia, and why still defending Japan to be closed minded is a bad idea.
Anonymous No.49735782 >>49741837
>>49735247
I guess when you put it in perspective, the women in Umineko were slightly more competent and had way too much coverage, including the fact that the whole cast is imbalanced in the favor of women.

I don't think any man got the same attention and flashbacks beside Kinzo himself, and Battler is a child without much background to explore. Will is mostly Battler 2.0 and a vehicle for exposition.
>Genji, Gohda, Hideyoshi, Rudolf, Nanjo, Krauss
didn't have much going on besides Krauss being a literal cryptobro.

In the end it was Ange's story and her closure, and was a shitty closure at that. Battler was still alive and nothing was done with it other than a huge disappointment.
Anonymous No.49736213 >>49736267 >>49736270 >>49737239
>>49732853
Redeeming Rina on GouSotsu would've worked if the whole scheme with Teppei was presented as nothing but a delusion, and she was honestly a good woman but Rena got a L5 schizo attack that made her imagine everything.
Instead of Rina turning good out of nowhere like it happened.
Anonymous No.49736267 >>49736360
>>49736213
>what if good characters were evil and bad characters were good?
Top 07th Expansion writer applicant
Anonymous No.49736270 >>49736360
>>49736213
>Redeeming Rina on GouSotsu would've worked by changing absolutely everything about her character
lol get off the computer Hackukishi
Anonymous No.49736360
>>49736267
>>49736270
Those 2 things are exactly what happened on Gou
Anonymous No.49737239 >>49737663
>>49736213
Trying to redeem Rina was probably worse than Teppei, she tried to murder Rena for getting in the way of bleeding her dad dry. At least Teppei never tried to kill the Hojo kids, not that physical abuse is much better.
Anonymous No.49737663
>>49737239
Why would they kill the hen with golden eggs?
Anonymous No.49740342 >>49740699
Anonymous No.49740699
>>49740342
smugka
Anonymous No.49740970 >>49741225
>>49685657 (OP)
Anonymous No.49741225
>>49740970
LMAO
Anonymous No.49741724 >>49744407
>>49724451
Nah, Satoko was deliberately closing herself and avoiding getting tied to anything there. Note she didn't befriend the girl who was sympathetic to her in the special class either.
Anonymous No.49741837
>>49735782
>In the end it was Ange's story and her closure, and was a shitty closure at that. Battler was still alive and nothing was done with it other than a huge disappointment.
Battler and Ange meeting again was closure for Battler, not the other way around. Ange for the most part had already moved on and lived her own life for decades before meeting him again.
Anonymous No.49742269 >>49742527
can I get a QRD for how the japanese fans responded to the episodes as they got released?
I missed the shitshow, why does everybody say japan hated the final episodes while the west loved them more?
Anonymous No.49742527 >>49742638
>>49742269
Usoda becomes a meme overnight
Tomitake furasshu!
Anonymous No.49742638 >>49742754 >>49742965 >>49744137
>>49742527
Did japanese like the Shkanontrice reveal at all?
Anonymous No.49742754
>>49742638
Most of them checked out after ep 6 so I'm guessing no
Anonymous No.49742965 >>49743085
>>49742638
Not a Japanese fan, but from what I know, this artist dropped Umineko after ep 6 revealed that Shannon and Kanon weren't actually separate people.
Anonymous No.49743085 >>49743101 >>49743500
>>49742965
Really? nobody cared abot Yasu/Shannon/Kanon gender being vague?
Ironically KinzoXBeatrice/chick is the only real Beatrice ship lmao
Anonymous No.49743101
>>49743085
I think some people were pretty mad, calling it homoshit, etc.
Anonymous No.49743470
Anonymous No.49743500 >>49744164 >>49744185
>>49743085
In general they were angry at episodes 7 and 8 not making the answer completely explicit. Any issues about Beatrice's true gender were very small compared to the overall backlash about the truth not being unveiled.
Anonymous No.49744137 >>49744994 >>49745071 >>49747790
>>49742638
>Did japanese like the Shkanontrice reveal at all?
Forget Beatrice's biological/birth gender being kept vague. I stopped liking Yasu and all of her personalities once they revealed that he (she?) went crazy because of a silly promise (joke) Battler made, and then triggered the Rokkenjima disaster. Her motivations were so stupid. Thank goodness for Erika and Lambda's existence, because by the end of the story, those two were definitely the girls I would've joined if given a choice. Trick master race all the way.
Anonymous No.49744164 >>49747193
>>49743500
And I imagine critics being caricatured as mindless goats eating a story they don't understand didn't help
Anonymous No.49744185 >>49744927
>>49743500
IIRC, just the episodes Erika was involved with were more or less answered... In the Ep 8 manga, not the visual novels.

I interpret that move as a sign of Ryukishi backpedaling on his decision to keep every episode's mysteries from being unveiled.
Anonymous No.49744384
>>49733653
Mammon isn't real. Satoko and Rika exists.
Anonymous No.49744407 >>49744927
>>49741724
Are you referring to Manga Satoko or Anime Satoko?
Anonymous No.49744425 >>49744994 >>49746706
>>49716977
Umineko aged poorly when you realize that Kinzo is pretty much the Japanese Epstein β€” private island and rape included β€” with Beatrice complicating the situation in Rokkenjima by unveiling the bomb mechanism that blows up everything and everyone, including a little girl. And somehow, we are supposed to find the idea of the Golden Land romantic. Hell, EP8 straight up thinks that even freaking Japanese Epstein deserves a happy ending.

When you really think about it, Erika is right for wanting to find out the truth behind this mess and not endorsing the fantasy crap, nor deluding herself into thinking that this tale deserves a magical and happy interpretation. Kinzo, his offspring, and employees were fucking lunatics, and everyone who refuses to see them for what they were supports the idea of rape and incest acts not coming into light.
Anonymous No.49744563
Anonymous No.49744927 >>49745153 >>49746071
>>49744407
Anime Satoko was explicitly dismissive of St.Lucia and just waiting for Rika to get bored too.

Manga Satoko wasn't prickly like that, but once things started falling apart everything she could think about was just returning things to how they were in the past. So, effectively it's the same issue, just portraying her in a more likeable light.

>>49744185
Episode 7 of the manga basically answers all previous episodes with some extra text and iamges Will's scene where he destroys illusions gets.

Episode 8 manga then reveals the actual real world backstory and truth of the incident. Also includes scenes that frame the entire series (like most events being portrayed as Ange's dream after she falls on the protective net, or whole set up for Episode 1 with Beatrice awakening in the Golden Land after killing herself and then meeting a Battler that was "empty" who is then filled in with Episode 1 memories as the game starts, which is why it feels like Meta-Battler is pulled from Episode 1 specifically even though that isn't even the real world)

I think Umineko's popularity in Japan was always going to fall apart though. Not revealing the truth was just the last fuse for complaints, but in general the change of direction of the quesiton arcs, dropping the idea of Battler leaving back for his family and focusing on understanding Beatrice just didn't resonate with VN readers at the time at all. Its popularity already was falling through episodes 5/6. People loved Beatrice as a villain, not a weak victim.
Anonymous No.49744994
>>49744137
>Her motivations were so stupid
this, Battler's sin doesn't make a goddamn sense to warrant such stupidity.
Should've been Yasu planing the murders and Battler surprise presence would throw a wrench in the plan, that the adults can have an advantage in a proper confrontation with Yasu. But instead we got a defeatist Yasu who gave up everything and died.

>>49744425
I find it stupidly funny how Beatrice simps ignore the fact that they are a mutilated incest abomination who tried to have a romantic relationship with all of the cousins, Maria and Ange excluded out of the mercy of age alone. Hell, it even recontextualise Shannon X George relationship because Yasu is the actual predator, but redditors keep bashing on George alone.
Anonymous No.49745071 >>49745153 >>49747275
>>49744137
Dude, where I live some schizo killed a retailer over a melon he didn't want to pay for yesterday
not that Yasu's motivations make any more sense, but people irl kill over the dumbest shit
Anonymous No.49745153 >>49745449
>>49744927
That's so lame, I think everything fell off after Battler stopped being the POV character practically when Bern controlled him. Gamemaster Battler is just not the same, nor blank weak beatrice. Chickatrice mimicking Beatrice also does not count.

I guess Ciconia was also received poorly too? how did R07 land work as the writer of Silent Hill F then? not that the franchise had any good writing most of the time.

I was extremely checked out when the tranny demons appeared with that awful voice acting, such an awful bloated cast. I guess you only really need Ronove and Virgilia, the stack and chiester sisters are so bad most of the time.
It's kinda trash that the only competent version of Battler is Will, and not Battler himself.

>>49745071
I've seen people who killed for less, but more often than not the kill is immediate, or the killer is a drug addict so logic doesn't factor anymore.
I could not say the same about a painfully planned massacre tho, people do not plan such murders over pity stuff, most of the time.
Anonymous No.49745449
>>49745153
>how did R07 land work as the writer of Silent Hill F then? not that the franchise had any good writing most of the time.
Gerokasu did well enough in Japan to get a sequel. Also, Gou did revive Higurashi's mainstream popularity in Japan even if by the end of Sotsu many fans disliked it. We're still getting new -Sotsu-, specifically, branded merchandising years after the show ended (although it's mostly merch that could exist without the show at all aside from using the Akio Watanabe designs).
Anonymous No.49745686 >>49747277
He should have included giant robots in Ciconia rather than Gauntlets if he wanted to go sci-fi.
Anonymous No.49746071
>>49744927
>and focusing on understanding Beatrice just didn't resonate with VN readers at the time at all.
Even after all these years, his sudden shift into a total simp still doesn't make any sense.
Anonymous No.49746706
>>49744425
I agree when it comes to Anime Satoko;
Manga Satoko though, I think she would give a chance to Enje, they share some tragedies (like dead parents) after all.
Anonymous No.49746722
Kuma-chan sure is ruthless
Anonymous No.49746849 >>49747743 >>49757029
Beato: Without love, it cannot be seen!

Erika: If love can lead to someone not wanting to expose the crimes of criminals like Jeffrey Epstein and The Monster of Amstetten, then I would rather be heartless. Sure, I was a bitch for ruining Maria's illusion, but at least I canonically wasn't planning to involve her in a mass suicide bombing, along with my 3 incestuous partners. Because of you, Maria's soul is stuck now in the same place as Kinzo's and yours, and somehow we are supposed to believe that this is a good thing.

The exposure of truth sometimes results in tragedy. However, no matter how tragic the truth may be, it would be an even greater tragedy to avert one's eyes from it.
Anonymous No.49747193
>>49744164
If only you know how bad this thing with the goats is gonna to bite in the ass to Hackysi07 very soon anon...
Anonymous No.49747275
>>49745071
Yeah, but would you read a eight-part billion-hour VN portraying melon schizo as a romantic hero and victim?
Anonymous No.49747277
>>49745686
that would've made the evangelion aping too obvious
Anonymous No.49747540
Anonymous No.49747719 >>49747731 >>49751721
Jeez, the threads are lower than before Ciconia's announcement, with way less interesting posts...
What happened?
Anonymous No.49747731
>>49747719
Gou
Anonymous No.49747743 >>49749323
>>49746849
I feel sympathy for Ryu's magic, I really do.
BUT if a tree falls in the woods and nobody hears it, it still fell. The world still exists outside your sight, just like the future and the past exist outside your immediate observation.
The truth lives alone, and there is only ONE TRUTH.
Anonymous No.49747790 >>49747806
>>49744137
>they revealed that he (she?) went crazy because of a silly promise (joke) Battler made
The whole finding out you're an incest rape baby raised as the wrong gender thing might have played a part too, not sure.
Anonymous No.49747806 >>49748135
>>49747790
You heard it right, folks. Anon is saying that being confused about your biological gender is enough justification to form an incestuous harem before committing mass suicide/murder, children included. Trans representation done right.
Anonymous No.49748029 >>49748093
Yeah if I found out that I had a bazillion dollars and could do whatever I want and that the person I was obsessing over is actually my cousin nephew I think I'd probably just move on with my life but I guess that's because I'm not a retarded tranny living in a gook's self-jerkoff fantasy
Anonymous No.49748093
>>49748029
If someone offered to give you 1 billion dollars, but they hack your cock off and you can never have surgery to fix it, are you taking that deal? Now imagine that they didn't give you a choice, and they live in your house from now on.
Anonymous No.49748135 >>49748310
>>49747806
Where did I say anything about justification? There's no justification for mass murder, but it's not true that Yasu went crazy because of Battler's promise.
Anonymous No.49748310
>>49748135
>there's no justification for mass murder
You just reminded me of Ryukishi's absolutely psycho retard "happy" ending for his (Lucia's) Rewrite route.
Anonymous No.49749323
>>49747743
>The truth lives alone, and there is only ONE TRUTH.
This just reminded me that when writing Detective Conan references, he changes his tagline from "There's always only one Truth!" to "there are always two truths!". Erika is portrayed as a big Detective Conan fan, but you'd think that version would run against her beliefs.
Anonymous No.49751721
>>49747719
Is that really a bad thing?
If you want content, play the Layton crossover game and post theories while playing.
https://youtu.be/fiJ7JwwlG6o
Anonymous No.49751841
>>49685657 (OP)
You guys didn't tell me Ozzy's wife was a Battler cosplayer.
Anonymous No.49752199
fucking my plapmeat (ange)
Anonymous No.49753301
Anonymous No.49753872 >>49756358
Anonymous No.49753914
Anonymous No.49755092 >>49755281
Do you know Oyashiro-sama?
Anonymous No.49755281
>>49755092
Yes Hinamizawa!
Anonymous No.49755784
Hinamizawa-chan is so kyute
Anonymous No.49756358
>>49753872
My favorite gay couple
Anonymous No.49757029 >>49757137
>>49746849
>but at least I canonically wasn't planning to involve her in a mass suicide bombing
Erika is a bitch for being a literal criminal and decapitating 6 people, including Maria, then finishing the Epitaph on her own.
Erika is a fucking retard and a criminal.
Anonymous No.49757137
>>49757029
>decapitating 6 people, including Maria, then finishing the Epitaph on her own.
What a legend.
Anonymous No.49759228 >>49760737 >>49760989
https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=-mLkwPnhPaw9pxyT&v=LbgQaNxNduE

Keiichi's VA voicing the promo for Koppa.
Anonymous No.49760587 >>49761980
Where the fuck do I even find these gikyokus
Anonymous No.49760737 >>49761249 >>49761367 >>49761650 >>49762123
>>49759228
I like how every story R07 wrote after the original higu visual novels involving Keiichi just makes him out to be a fucking cuck loser who has to watch every single woman he's ever liked in his life get fucked by other men.
Anonymous No.49760989 >>49761254 >>49763915
>>49759228
Oh yeah, how is the cheap knockoff of "Rascal Does Not Dream of Bunny Girl Senpai" by Hackysi07 nowdays?
Anonymous No.49761041
Anonymous No.49761186 >>49763800
Anonymous No.49761249
>>49760737
I seriously don't understand what his issue is with him, like if you looked at the works before ciconia and Gou Keiichi was still a somewhat respectable character and still portrayed in a heroic harem like light. Is this just his way at getting back at the fans who like Higurashi?
Anonymous No.49761254 >>49763915
>>49760989
It's shit and has an entire chapter where the Not!Keiichi has to watch as the bunny girl Mion knock off gets her ass and tits groped by this pervy old man at a hostess club while also cross dressing and getting aroused
Anonymous No.49761367
>>49760737
>I like how every story R07 wrote after the original higu visual novels involving Keiichi just makes him out to be a fucking cuck loser
You can say that the world has broken the
boyΒ΄s baseball bat (because letΒ΄s face it, that shit isnΒ΄t a sword).
Anonymous No.49761650
>>49760737
That never happened.
Anonymous No.49761980
>>49760587
https://motton106.booth.pm/
Anonymous No.49762123 >>49763018
>>49760737
Higurashi may be the series where you gotta apply death of the author the most. Every single thing Ryushiki made after it ended, especially Rei and Gou now, completely shits on the original story, the characters, and all they meant.
He made my favorite series of all time, but I hate his guts so fucking much.
Anonymous No.49763018
>>49762123
I have to gain money with the modern young shitty audience of wannabe center of the universe, please understandu!
-Hackysi07
Anonymous No.49763800
>>49761186
Man it's not fair. Who gives a shit about the rest of Ciconia, Grave Mole deserve to have their story told
Anonymous No.49763915 >>49763923 >>49765488 >>49765555 >>49765603 >>49765799
>>49760989
I'm really not the type of person to see NTR in everything. But that manga convinced me that Ryukishi has a new NTR fetish.
>>49761254
Anonymous No.49763923 >>49763934 >>49765488
>>49763915
Anonymous No.49763934 >>49763943 >>49765488
>>49763923
Anonymous No.49763943 >>49765488
>>49763934
Anonymous No.49765488
>>49763915
>>49763923
>>49763934
>>49763943
>People still believe that Hackysi07 writes good
>He latest work puts a over-obvius twist for a shitty short manga
Why is "inhumane and ilegal" to punish people like Ryukishi07 in this shit world again?
Anonymous No.49765555 >>49767449
>>49763915
Between this, and what he said about "how much violence and blood Silent Hill F is going to have," I think the hack believes himself to be the only "savior" who can defeat the ideology of political correctness or some shit like that...
(Spoilers: He will clearly fail because the only real solution there will be is to subjugate them with violence, and not do bad writting works that no one will care about)
Anonymous No.49765603 >>49766188
>>49763915
Cannot wait for Ryukishi07 "brillant" writting to "evolve" into this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5rqhwZxwHo
Anonymous No.49765799 >>49765808 >>49765814 >>49765838
>>49763915
After seeing how Satoko was treated these past few years it's safe to say he loves making her NTR bait
Anonymous No.49765808 >>49765819 >>49765875 >>49766036
>>49765799
This really shouldn't be surprising
Ryukishi took the lazy way out and basically said EVERYONE GROWS UP AND BECOMES THEIR MOMS
including Satoko. She inherited the slutty cheating whore genes
Anonymous No.49765814 >>49765819
>>49765799
i was gonna say something but then i remembered the whole tataridamashi/tatariakashi shit with K1 and realized that no you're right he really did pull that shit
Anonymous No.49765819 >>49765839 >>49765845 >>49765881 >>49766047
>>49765808
>>49765814
>Every other club member spouse gets page or nothing at all explaining who they are or just ignored
>Satokos husband is expanded upon and becomes one of the major characters of the story
>multiple scenes of them being sweet and loving to each other
I would seriously kill myself if I was a Satokofag let alone a Satokeifag
Anonymous No.49765838 >>49765853
>>49765799
Ryukishi has said he would want to have Satoko as a wife, has every new Higurashi work just been him exploring his fetish?
Anonymous No.49765839
>>49765819
tell that to sperg
Anonymous No.49765845 >>49765863 >>49765915
>>49765819
i'm not even referring to that, sotsugou all by itself had:
>oh hey satoko's getting all blushy with him, this is different
>wait she's sneaking off with him
>and everyone's even acknowledging it
>she's taking him home??
>BAM teppei bait and switch fuck you
>*one season later*
>she's actually getting close to teppei now??
>then what was that scene in tatari about?
>well i guess maybe he got defensive of satoko?
>wait why's she having a war with herself over killing teppei
>wait he's already dead??
>then who hit k1?
>SATOKO?????
>the story outright showed me something completely false???
all by itself it pulls a shift from 'bad timing stopped her from expressing her feelings' to 'she never gave two shits about him and actively beat the shit out of him herself'
Anonymous No.49765853
>>49765838
Reiwa literally ends with all the girls fucking the main villain while Keiichi listens outside, if he were to make Umineko today every girl would have a body count in the hundreds
Anonymous No.49765863 >>49765871
>>49765845
That scene completely ruined SotsuGou for me, I'm not even a Satokofag but I know Satoko would never do something like this let alone just walk away from Satoshi after finding him. Without a doubt one of the most vile hatefilled things Ryukishi has ever written towards his fans
Anonymous No.49765871
>>49765863
For me it was that story someone posted of her raping some drug dealer for his gun just because it felt like something Ryukishi would write these days
Anonymous No.49765875 >>49766038
>>49765808
>She inherited the slutty cheating whore genes
>only had 1 kid
That's how you know Reiwa isn't canon
Anonymous No.49765881 >>49766053
>>49765819
Satokei was always a massive stretch compared to Keirena and Keimion, both of which had way more hints throughout the story, so it's not surprising Ryukishi didn't have it in mind.
Anonymous No.49765888 >>49765900
when the fuck did this thread get so active
Anonymous No.49765889 >>49765903 >>49765909 >>49765918 >>49765924 >>49765985
>Shipfags in this thread
Rena canonically rimmed her husbands hairy asshole before letting him cum inside her raw
She doesn't love Keiichi nor is she capable of romantic relationships due to her mental illness
Anonymous No.49765900
>>49765888
Sextoko was posted
Anonymous No.49765903
>>49765889
Fuck off with that Reiwa shit that was so fucking lazy
>LMAO RENA GOT DIVORCED BECAUSE USODA!!
>HER KID ALSO SAYS USODA EVERY FIVE SECONDS!!
Anonymous No.49765909
>>49765889
I really wish Rena's husband wasn't shown, I remember feeling sick to my stomach seeing him and knowing that Rena had a kid with the guy.
Anonymous No.49765915 >>49770543
>>49765845
>the story outright showed me something completely false???
They did this in the original VN you know back in Tsumihoroboshi
>Rena going full schizo
>Sees the van and thinks it's a death squad
>Story shows us they're actually just gardeners
>They were actually a death squad the whole time
It's a shitty writing trope but they got it from the source
Anonymous No.49765918
>>49765889
rape this Rena
Anonymous No.49765924 >>49765930 >>49765973
>>49765889
Reiwa was so based in making shipfags suffer
>NO KEIICHI WOULD MARRY RENA
>NO HE WOULDN'T HE'D MARRY SATOKO
>YOU'RE BOTH WRONG IT'S MION HE LOVES
>All 3 girls fuck random dudes and forget about Keiichi
Based Ryukishi
Anonymous No.49765929 >>49765938 >>49765996 >>49766007
ah fuck the actual cucks showed up
Anonymous No.49765930 >>49765954 >>49770550
>>49765924
You forgot the part where it's heavily implied Keiichi married Chie
Gigabased
Anonymous No.49765938
>>49765929
Not being a shipfag doesn't make you a cuck, I want to fuck these whores myself
Anonymous No.49765951 >>49765960 >>49765965 >>49766030
Seems you all need to be reminded
Anonymous No.49765954 >>49765962 >>49765966 >>49765972
>>49765930
Anon Chie would be in her 80's by the time of Reiwa
Anonymous No.49765960
>>49765951
only one that didn't get cucked (because R07 didn't give a shit either way)
Anonymous No.49765962
>>49765954
didn't stop macron
Anonymous No.49765965
>>49765951
Anyone is better than mion.
Anonymous No.49765966
>>49765954
and? japanese women look the same for like 60 years, they don't hit the wall at 30 like westerners
Anonymous No.49765972
>>49765954
I figured she was mid or late 20s, so might only be a decade older than the club. that's not a crazy difference.
Anonymous No.49765973 >>49765985
>>49765924
Sauce?
Anonymous No.49765985 >>49766092 >>49766158 >>49766195
>>49765889
Would (You) kiss Rena after she got done sucking and rimming her husband if it meant she would become your wife irl?
>>49765973
Hero Neisan
Anonymous No.49765996
>>49765929
"ah fuck the actual consumers of When They Cry who are pretend progesives in any part of the internet and sick sexual fustrated "people" in 4chan showed up", more like it.
Anonymous No.49766007
>>49765929
When you make nothing but NTR bait for the past 6 years you shouldn't be surprised when your fans become cucks
Anonymous No.49766023
The more I hear about the extra Higurashi material, the more grateful I am that I chose to read the VN only. This is insane.
Anonymous No.49766030
>>49765951
this was only temporary thoughbeit
Anonymous No.49766036
>>49765808
>EVERYONE GROWS UP AND BECOMES THEIR MOMS
ShMionbros things are looking great
Anonymous No.49766038
>>49765875
She had TWO kids with Keiichi.
Anonymous No.49766047
>>49765819
You forgot
>raises a child that's not his

>I would seriously kill myself if I was a Satokofag let alone a Satokeifag
Why, Keiichi still got to impregnate her?
Anonymous No.49766053
>>49765881
Keimii was always a massive stretch compared to Keirena and Satokei both of which had way more hints throughout the story, so it's not surprising Ryukishi didn't have it in mind.*
Anonymous No.49766066 >>49766082
>Satoko marries Kimiyoshi's son
What the hell is this lmao
Anonymous No.49766075 >>49766104 >>49766150 >>49766161
>there are higurashi fans in the year 2025 that still think rikas timeloop was literal
I guess the joke about everyone dripping the VN before Matsuribayashi is true?
Anonymous No.49766082 >>49766207
>>49766066
That's not even the best part
>sakiko is not his biological daughter
Anonymous No.49766086
Botted thread
Anonymous No.49766092 >>49766133 >>49767799
>>49765985
Okay so if I kiss her will I be married to THAT Rena or could I pick a Rena from a different world like from Tsumboroshi or Matsuribayashi? I'm not a big fan of Reiwa Rena and I wouldn't want to raise her kid that isn't mine
Anonymous No.49766104
>>49766075
Explain how it isn't literal. Anything to stop the cuckposting.
Anonymous No.49766119
I like the cuck posting though.
Anonymous No.49766133 >>49766195
>>49766092
To make things fair I would say no, you kiss the Rena you get but the only thing you know for sure is that she just got done rimming and sucking off her husband. She doesn't have a kid and she may or may not still be a virgin it's a catbox, and to sweeten the deal this Rena is the Rena of your dream world and will not be a mentally ill schizo who divorces you over forgetting to shave.
Anonymous No.49766141
I fucking hate you guys
Anonymous No.49766150
>>49766075
Ye brudda im always dripped out with my diamond bling you feel me
Anonymous No.49766158
>>49765985
Yes.
>But-
Yes. I'll take Rena after she's been properly ran through and not a day sooner.
Anonymous No.49766161
>>49766075
Anonymous No.49766166
i just got here wtf is going on dawg
gross
Anonymous No.49766171
hell naw yall niggas on that diddy shit fr
Anonymous No.49766188
>>49765603
>Post this
>Some time later, the shitty horny pics and wanna fuck X character fights appear
>/07/, never change to be a joke for a shithole francise
Anonymous No.49766195 >>49769566
>>49766133
>>49765985
>>49713914
Forgot a post tranny janny
Anonymous No.49766207
>>49766082
True love wins again...
Anonymous No.49767449
>>49765555
>the only "savior" who can defeat the ideology of political correctness
If he thought that he wouldn't have made Reiwa about how old communities need to die out and be replaced by culty weirdos.
Anonymous No.49767791
Akuryo Taisan!
Anonymous No.49767799
>>49766092
Do not worry Renabro you have a pure JK Rena waiting for your illicit relation. The kakera is being prepared for you. You must make it through the hell kakera first though.
Anonymous No.49769566 >>49769634
>>49766195
Anonymous No.49769634
>>49769566
Rare Troonppei post
Anonymous No.49770074 >>49770137 >>49770237
https://youtu.be/9sMqeQ0V0-Q?si=uY9qJEABh1l8v9fl
>get hit once
>5 liters of blood flying around
The fuck is this Mortal Kombat shit
Anonymous No.49770137
>>49770074
well you see anon, this is clearly an indication of it not being something that happened in reality
just ignore that one time rika stabbed herself and literally coated the fucking windows red
Anonymous No.49770237
>>49770074
The blood is coming out of her axe wound.
Anonymous No.49770438 >>49770466 >>49770468
Anonymous No.49770466 >>49770492
>>49770438
Only Keiichi could tame her. I mean this sincerely. The serial loli shooter needs a crazy wife to slap around as a vent, and she needs him as a source of endless dick. They'll both grow out of it and find a happy balance as a real couple.
Anonymous No.49770468 >>49770488 >>49770492 >>49770494 >>49770497 >>49770662
>>49770438
Would Satoshi waking up and prone bone nakadashiing her on the spot have fixed her?
Anonymous No.49770488
>>49770468
No, because Satoshi was never a real character. Sexual desire would require him to have agency, which Ryukishi never wrote.
Anonymous No.49770492
>>49770466
>>49770468
One second apart.
Anonymous No.49770494
>>49770468
having access to Satoshi's comatose body would've already fixed her by then
Anonymous No.49770497 >>49770506
>>49770468
only if you think 'pretending everything is okay because at least you have your man now' is fixing her
Anonymous No.49770506 >>49770521 >>49770541 >>49771023
>>49770497
More abusive marriage competition:
Shion and Satoshi
Sayo (100% confirmed functional female body) and Battler
Anonymous No.49770521 >>49770546
>>49770506
if sayo's body was fully functional i think she'd legitimately get over the other problems after a few nakadashis, she's weird like that
if she still can't get pregnant though and ESPECIALLY if she can't have sex, she'd probably end up becoming one of those 'you're literally driving me to kill myself are you happy now????' girls
Anonymous No.49770541
>>49770506
that doesn't count as abuse. And even if there was a little here and there, Satoshi has been through worse
Anonymous No.49770543 >>49770548 >>49770645
>>49765915
That's not the same thing. Higurashi Sotsu outright reveals one scene from Gou never happened and was just unreliable narrative liek this were Umineko. It's not that Keiichi somehow saw Satoko and thought it was Teppei, the whole scene was alie specifically to the viewers.

Except it's not a mechanic ever directly acknowledged and discussed in the story, unlike in Umineko (or Higurashi Mei), it's only applied to that one Sotsu scene.
Anonymous No.49770546 >>49770566
>>49770521
I think Sayo just needs one night with the goods and a vibrator and she'd wake up the next morning a different person. Shion is way more fucked up in the head, as she has been replaced by her own twin and then sent off to a Catholic boarding school run by Japanese people (literally Hell).
Anonymous No.49770548
>>49770543
Hey buddy, we are trying to discuss Shion creampie here.
Anonymous No.49770550
>>49765930
Eh, Keiichi's wife likes curry, but her design is just a clone of Keiichi's mom.
Anonymous No.49770566 >>49770590
>>49770546
Shion at least came to terms with the guilt the twins share by the end, but I'm sure she still thinks Oryou is a cunt (which is correct)
Anonymous No.49770590 >>49770603
>>49770566
Sure, but Higu has many different Fragments that are all considered true. Matsuri is the "literal magic" fragment with Akasaka punching vans and Mion 1v1ing Okonogi.
Umineko only has one true Fragment, and the rest is kept inside the magic box of gameboards and witchly imaginations.
Shion did come around to her own hate, but it took hundreds or thousands of years of accumulated memory.
Anonymous No.49770603 >>49770625
>>49770590
I think you're overestimating the lingering effects of fragments when you say "hundreds or thousands of years of accumulated memory."
But it's kinda hard to analyze that progress in other fragments when the rest all end in "then they died."
Anonymous No.49770625
>>49770603
I think the WTCverse has an element of a legitimate afterlife and soul memory.
Anonymous No.49770645
>>49770543
not to mention it's not even like umineko because she told ooishi ANOTHER version of events, meaning what we saw in gou was a complete fabrication that no one ever believed or saw through hallucinations/metaworld trickery at all
at least in umineko the magic scenes are what battler sees in the metaworld so they serve a purpose to trick him, the scene in gou was completely false and tricked no one other than us
Anonymous No.49770662 >>49770694
>>49770468
only if he wakes up in an L5 rage and has his way with her
Anonymous No.49770694
>>49770662
Hanyuu hadn't invented L6 yet. That's the Crossed fragment.
Anonymous No.49771023 >>49771572
>>49770506
Battler? Abusive? He's the sweetest guy on Rokkenjima. His "crimes" and "sin" is far less than every other adult there
Anonymous No.49771439 >>49771656
I want my face to be Rika’s chair
Anonymous No.49771572
>>49771023
Battler would be the one being abused. Haven't found a job yet? Out with your friends again? I think I smell perfume.
Anonymous No.49771656
>>49771439
Finally some truth