Thread 49867852

Tonight's the night!

What do we expect???

>>49867882
Hopefully something better than 19.

>>49867882
I have hope, honestly.

>>49867882
It's already one of my favorite games in the series just from the shot type selection meaning I'm going to pump out more 1CC attempts than I have since the early 2010's, so even if it turns out to be absolutely shit with god-awful music and characters and ZUN implements sprites of himself with dialogue saying he's going to quit making games and work exclusively on producing Chinese gacha games before activating malware in the code that sends any of my given hentai folders to everyone on my email list, I'd still enjoy it just for the gameplay alone.

I do like the theory that Ryuujin is going to be mentioned in some capacity and Stage 4 or one of the later stages will be another VS battle between the two, but I think everyone who believes that this game is the end of the series just because it's the 20th entry is a retard.

>>49867889
That's a very low bar that the demo has already far surpassed, both in terms of gameplay, writing, soundtrack and design.

>>49867889
There's no beating a Phantasmagoria game. That said my hopes are high from the demo!

>>49867882
I don't know about the others, but I've played the demo a lot already, and fellow shmup players (the ones that aren't repulsed by Touhou, at least) have mentioned they have faith. So do I. The return of spell practice is probably a good sign as well, and I have a feeling that the other newhus will be varying degrees of Nue-like. Hypers are basically cherry borders except the extra power depends on your shot type, and Wonder Stones are actually a bit concerning but so far on Normal they aren't overly intrusive, I imagine some routing around them would be necessary for Lunatic though.

>>49867882
Hecatia is so back

>>49867882
The cover 2hu looks to have a dino tail and with the title being 'Fossilized' Wonders... I think it's pretty obvious what the final boss is (at least partly) inspired by.
Relistening to the demo songs this morning though, they're a definite step up from most of the early stage pieces from the half decade, maybe even a bit further back. I'm not a fan of the weaker melodies but the compositional style is far more complex.

Stage 5 boss will be Sakuya from another dimension
She has dinosaur powers instead of timestop powers

>>49868095
The idea that there's still SHMUPheads actively repulsed by Touhou baffles me, especially since now at least half of the market is about flying girls or girls inside of ships instead of just ships with no actually definable person inside of it and the other half is danmaku games, which were the two major complaints I used to hear back in the day. I'm not going to say it's totally unavoidable to play a game without one or the other but good fucking luck finding some.

>>49868068
There's no beating a good Phantasmagoria game. 19 was a shit Phantasmagoria game, it made me regret wasting so much time wishing for a PoFV follow up.

How much longer? I need sleep.

>>49868158
Scary maids and super creeps

>>49868172
Realistically, probably at least 12 hours, but could be up to 16.

>>49868172
Could be anywhere from 12 to 16 hours I reckon.

>>49868172
It's almost 3am in Japan, time is moving! But 10am until Comiket opens and then some time until someone gets their hands on it and streams it, might still take a while.

How bad was 19?

>>49868196
It was a Phantasmagoria game, so what do you think.

>>49868196
The netcode completely ruined it. Doesn't help there was also some design choices that made it not nearly as impactful of a game as I wanted.

>>49867882
Mass troon twitter ""artist"" suicide because of ZUN double downing on AI use

>>49868167
The way I see it, Touhou is a danmaku series, best for its bosses thanks to their patterns and unique tracks. In some cases the final bosses have been a bit climactic too. I do think Touhou hate is more of a meme nowadays in those circles but I don't know for sure. I understand not wanting the association with the fanbase however.

>>49868196
Very. The netplay was non-existent as he put zero effort into making it actually function, and the rest of the game was just nothing.

>>49868196
The netplay was half-assed and rushed as a last-minute addition because BeatMario said it should be there; originally it wasn't even going to be. No Extra either, not even just a five-minute fight. Shot balance was all over the place and the single-player suffers from enemies simply not dying until you have hit a certain phase. At the very least, it's nice to have a game where Seiran and Orin are playable.

>>49867852 (OP)
Im so fucking ready

>>49867852 (OP)
Will this game have any memorable ’hus or will they all be whos nobody cares about like TH19?

>>49868196
The Sonic06 of Touhou

>>49868292
I personally really don't care for the stage 1 and 2 bosses we got, but Nareko is fine and the silhouette of the final one looked interesting. They'll probably be alright.

>>49868292
Nareko will probably be remembered, and I am unsure about Chimichanga Creatura but she fits in the goofy category with some others. Ubame will probably be forgotten

>>49868239
>Zanmu's power is manipulating nothing
>game was literally nothing
Sasuga, ZUN

>>49868339
Ubame deserved so much better...

>>49868196
Four songs are still locked upon 100%ing the game because ZUN made the wacky choice to have the same three songs play in every fight instead of character themes. Also the entire second half just being the beast mafia infighting got old very quickly.

>>49868339
I'll never forget Ubame because of her fairy toss

>>49868354
Bravo Kojima

>>49868369
I like her. She has nice colors and she's a hag with a nice tummy who's got an attitude and throws fairies around. That's already a good bit of character. I hope she at least finds a niche.

>>49868196
Fantastic. Just find out for yourself. The new themes for Reimu and Marisa in particular are future classics, and otherwise it was exactly what a Phantasmagoria game with ZUN's new tastes would look and play like.

>>49868392
Reimu’s theme was decent but Marisa’s is budget Casket of Star.

>>49868385
I like her too, she just got overshadowed way too damn quickly but she never asked to be born as a Stage 1 boss either.
I mean more that she deserves better among the fans in the long-term really, a little staying power through good consistent fan art can go a long way.

>>49868196
Yachie got outsmarted by Aunn. That's all I am going to say about it.

So which character and incident stone are you going to pick for your first run?

>>49868501
Imperishable Moon Marisa of course.

>>49868501
Marisa and Imperishable Moon, with another moon for the wide, Sanae frogs for the focused and the passive that increases focused shot damage
It's a little jank, but once you get used to it you can use the hyper to basically erase any bullet in front of you and you can also get like half the meter back (this is easier on harder difficulties) and the frog damage can get pretty big

>>49868501
I haven't played the demo so I have no idea what they do. I'll probably just play Reimu with the default pick, like how I start off any other game.

>>49868498
>Yachie got outsmarted by Aunn. That's all I am going to say about it.
the humiliation Yachie faced in 19 has gotta be one of the best things about it

>>49868501
I will do Reimu on Red and go through them in sequential order
The trial limited selectable stones to 1 per type, but it's likely to have increased in the full game
Possible one might have to clear that stone up to 3 times.

>>49867882
OFFICIAL ROCK TOUHOU!
A new touhou that's pure sex, players will instantly cum when they see them.
The real culprit was the friends we made along the way
Mima appears in the background of one of the stages, but only for a moment
Zun's art will be dramatically better ruining Touhou forever

I really want to believe that with the release of each new Touhou game there are artists strapped down and furiously F5ing 2chan so they can be the absolute first to draw porn of new Touhous

>>49868762
Nowadays the fastest porn I see is on Twitter rather than oekaki boards. I think it was Urumi's first lewd art was fully colored and the first lewd oekaki sketch was 10 minutes afterwards.

>>49868501
I thought the demo started with only one stone available, but it's been a while since I tried it
I think I'm really going to feel the strain of no translation off the bat this time around.

>>49868796
You start with all kinds for your primary, and when you get a clear, you can use one more in whichever alternate slot you like. If I have to beat the game all those times that may be a bit lame but I can work with it

>>49868796
Nah. The way it works is; you pick one of the 8 stones in the main story slot, and the other slots (focused, unfocused and passive) have the common stone which copies whatever you pick at reduced effectiveness.

>>49868196
Incredibly poor shot balance.
Imbalanced cards (a system that really didn't need to come back yet again)
Very minimal content, including jarringly no extra.
Bad netcode.
Took the really solid mechanical structure introduced in PoDD and perfected in PoFV and just threw it out the window in favor of something far more gimmicky.
Roster picks ended up being pretty dull, ZUN just needed to shove every animal mafia family head in there for reasons and Ran is a shitty pick for lead character.
And personally I thought the music was mostly miss (Tiny Shangri-La was the stand out among the few hits). Reimu, Marisa and Suika's new themes are generic garbage which was incredibly disappointing.

>>49868178
>>49868182
ETA for character leaks and chinese livestream?

>>49868772
How fast we talking here? How soon after release are we gonna get porn on twitter?

>>49867882
Hopefully no more shitty designs like Ch*y*r*.

>>49868762
If I'm awake and lucid upon seeing the newhus I'm drawing porn of them as fast as I can

>>49868962
I'd imagine probably 8 hours, it's hard to say though. I personally dip out before leaks start coming in outside of monitoring, via ctrl + f, the threads that are likely to contain download links.

>>49868988
Noooooooooo

>>49868971
God speed anon

>>49868196
Has the gamefreak seal of quality

>>49868966
I am going to need you to be more specific, Anon

>>49868966
fuck you
I love my chupawife

>>49868962
it’s 9pm for me now and when udoalg released i remember chinese streams, the tracklist and photos of the back of the box being shown starting around 2am ish while the characters started coming a bit later, hisami and zanmu were revealed around 5am
i don’t know how many hours that is work that out in your country’s time

>>49869005
So a music album basically?

>>49868966
What does Cheyere have to do with Touhou? Is that the secret to Yukari's skinscare routine?

>>49869030
Seems like I need to go to sleep now and wake up at 5am

>>49868966
What did the sailor girl ever do to you?

Comiket entries begin in about 5 hours so I imagine in 6-7 hours we’ll get the first glimpses of newhus

>>49869156
why does it take so long? am i missing something because what’s stopping someone from getting in line early, getting the game, legging it from the con and streaming it from their laptop within the first half hour?

It's still there
havent followed the drama since June, any updates?

>>49869166
Nothing. That actually does happen sometimes.

>>49869166
Depending on where booths are set up, it can take awhile to walk to a particular one. Comiket is a massive convention too, so there's going to be a ton of people there. That and finding a place to sit for streaming, playing through the first three stages, the works. If anything 6-7 hours is a hopeful estimate.
>>49868966
Chiyuri wasn't even designed by ZUN, she was reference to a manga he liked.

>>49869217
fair enough, i don't know how big comiket is honestly. but if it were me i'd get the game, quickly get to a nearby starbucks/local cafe with free wifi and play on easy. only getting to the extra stage would be a problem.

I hope this game fails, so zun will have to commit seppuku to restore his honor.

>>49869217
We need to start sending a verified /jp/sie to every Touhou release with the sole objective of running in, grabbing the new game, running back to a hotel and uploading that shit.

>>49869262
Does ZUN even make much money from game releases? I'd imagine most of his income is from licensing deals followed by his own business ventures like his brewing company.

Wings or Pyramids?
Place your bets now, people!

>>49869289
i see 2 (Two) women kissing

newhus better be up when I wake up in the morning

>>49869289
Probably wings, but I think the bottom design with the pyramids looks better.

>>49869166
That does happen. It depends on how focused the Chinese are, since I'm pretty sure every game for the past 10+ years has almost exclusively been streamed first on bilibili. I've heard vendors have been avoiding selling to them though because they tend to buy things just to rip and re-sell those rips so who knows how that affects the process.
>>49869267
Would still lose to the chinks. Also makes no sense because if you're going to Comiket you're going to be going there for you and (you) alone, and even then we're all otaku here; not browsing the floor of Comiket if you're there is sacrilege.

>>49869289
I still think its going to be Himiko so I'm going pyramids

>>49869304
Chinks are only human, you could haul ass and beat them at least once I'm sure.

>>49869289
It's probably a cape

>>49869312
>Chinks are [...] human
debatable

Do you think stage 4's will be completely different depending on what your primary stone is?
Will we get a different boss with each one or will her spellcards change?

>>49869331
Patchouli-esque boss gimmick, maybe some altered enemy waves, I wouldn't expect much else.

>>49869331
Different Spell Cards Most likely, isn't that a Stage 4 peculiarity in many of the games?

>>49869354
Here's a quick overview of Stage 4 (standard format games only)
4: Boss depends on your character selection.
5: Duo boss, final phase depends on who you eliminate first.
6: Pulls from a larger spell card pool, with the actual selection depending on your difficulty and shot type
7: Trio boss, initial boss pattern depends on your character selection, transitions to another solo fight depending on who you focus down in the first spell card.
8: Boss depends on your character selection.
10: No real gimmick unless you count a survival card as a gimmick.
11: Spell cards depend on your shot type.
12: No real gimmick unless you count survival cards as a gimmick.
13: Puppet + Master boss fight, Puppet can soak up hits but the Master has to stop fighting to heal the Puppet if it takes too much damage.
14: Boss depends on your shot type.
15: No real gimmick unless you count spawning "enemies" as bullets as a gimmick.
16: No real gimmick.
17: No real gimmick.
18: No real gimmick.

>>49867852 (OP)
Tonight's the night, the night, we're gonna rip it up!
>>49869082
That's every touhou game.

>>49869331
It would be kind of odd to have 4 different entrances, only to have it be the exact same stage regardless. But I'm doubtful about having something like having a stage 4A, 4B, 4C and 4D.
Your choice of stone seems to matter a lot in this game so I wonder how that will affect the extra stage. Will the final boss or extra boss use incident stones than the ones you can select don't represent?

>>49869273
>followed by his own business ventures like his brewing company
That still works? I thought he closed that shit down, because he didn't have the time for it.
>Does ZUN even make much money from game releases?
I'd imagine so, considering that they sell in the thousands, especially in japan.

Dragon Lady?

Does anyone have a quick guide for what each stone combination does?
I probably should wait for a translation before I play, eh.

>>49869331
I'm also of the idea that, depending on wich stone color is in use, the Spellcards might reference the two games they represent, either names and/or patterns

>>49869312
You simply cannot beat the Chinese when it comes to speedy shitty rips and scans. Plus they profit off of being one of dozens of people rushing for one specific thing and leaving immediately after, meanwhile I don't even think there's dozens of /jp/sies going to Comiket in the first place let alone any who would sacrifice their own time just to be the first streamer when someone else inevitably will do it faster than them.
>>49869331
I feel like it's pretty obvious that either Stage 4 or some other part of the latter half of the game will be changed or decided based on what your stones are, though reading it back Stage 4 is definitely the most blatant foreshadowed part what with the difference entrances.

>>49869481
Or it could be of a game it doesn't. So if you play with a yellow stone, you could get a boss with LoLK attack name/patterns.

>>49867889
>meme vs game
that's pretty easy tbf

>>49869500
Which Stone represents wich game again? I don't have the demo patched so I can't check there

>>49869520
>Red
6 and 17
>Blue
7 and 16
>Yellow
11 and 8
>Green
10 and 19

So 9, 12,13,14, 15 and 18 are left over.

>>49869167
As it should be. AI perfectly embodies the spirit of Touhou.

>>49869530
Poor DDC.

>>49869167
>any updates
Nope, it's still a nothingburger.

>>49869545
Imagine if you could unlock some more shot types from beating the game. I think DDC is most suited for a red stone.

Here's a reference if anyone wanted it.

>>49869655
I never understood shots that go behind you or sideways (misdirection).
How do you actually use those?

>>49869668
They're good in some shmups but I find Touhou usually doesn't have enemies behind you. Sometimes they're to the side, but your shot can usually destroy those from both sides if it's wide enough. So I'd argue that straight shots or wide shots are the best ones.

>>49869668
They're sometimes helpful during boss fights where you have to move up above the boss. Orin for example.

>>49869679
I feel like wide shots will be especially useful in this game with all the pyramids flying around.

so when are we going to get the game time-wise? early morning jp time?

>>49869603
It would make sense as I'm pretty sure all of those games have a variety of other shot types to choose from, and also would allow for an extra stone in each color. And to be frank it'd be weird just to have those games totally missing entirely as there's no real common link between their exclusion. The only ones I can see that have a connection are the Occult Ball related games, but surely ZUN doesn't hate them that much.

>>49869668
Pretty much entirely a gimmick or for the challenge, it's not really a shot type suited to a danmaku game let alone a vertical one.

>>49869478
reimu a: persuasion needle
reimu b: youkai buster
reimu c: homing amulet
reimu d: hsifs extra
reimu e: sa patchouli
reimu f: brand new
reimu g: cold inferno
reimu h: snake sanae

marisa a: illusion laser
marisa b: magic missile
marisa c: lolk reisen
marisa d: shortwave
marisa e: sa patchouli
marisa f: brand new
marisa g: cold inferno
marisa h: frog sanae

>>49869691
It's generally a random time between 10pm and 6am EST. Most commonly around 2 or 3am.

>>49869714
Thanks.
>sa patchouli
With the swappable shot types?

>>49869741
no, but it greatly resembles the yellow V one

>>49869668
There' only useful in very specific situations and typically when you know the stage well enough to abuse them. Depending on the hitboxes they might also be good for shotgunning while you have i-frames.
Like other anons have already said though Touhou spawns a vast majority of enemies in the top 70% of the screen, which is makes sense given you lose a life upon contact with an enemy in these games.

>>49869655
It's been a hot minute, but I recall Shinto Wind being overpowered on Marisa.

>>49869766
Yup, those frogs are really potent this time around.

Wait, so how many shot combinations does this game have in total? Seems like it's gonna be a pain to allshot regardless of difficulty.

>>49869781
I'd only count primary shots considering there is an extremely high number of combinations.

>>49869781
You have two slots for focused and unfocused shots and 8 stones to choose from. Plus a slot for a passive effect and the main story stone.

>>49869781
4096 total combinations. 56 for just main and sub shots. Multiply both by two for both characters combined.

so this is where we're gathering for the release right

>>49869800
sure, but expect it to get flooded by /v/ermin looking for game links
then again with /jp/hu being a thing now they might just flock there instead

>>49869800
I'm lurking here to catch the MEGA

>>49869805
are people looking for anything else? I guess i'm also here for the hype of streams, newhus posted, etc

>>49869800
Probably yeah. I'm waiting on the inevitable stream followed by a MEGA.

Mark my words, we'll get more stones connected to the remaining games, hell maybe even ALL the games (including PC-98 to have an equal of 20 stones) but that's just me smoking crack.

Llorefag here. I maintain my own giant lorebook.
Give me questions if you want. It doesn't need to be related to th20 by itself.

>The IN stone is the only one where the shot is the same for Reimu and Marisa
What did ZUN mean by this?

>>49869795
Oh, wow. I'd like to actually nolife it and allshot but I've things I wanna do with other games first. Someone will.

>>49869823
Which touhou CANONICALLY has the biggest tits?

>>49869835
probably Urumi or Yuugi
honorable mention to yuyuko because of ZUNs

>>49869823
What was the whole point of the religious conflict between Shinto, Tao, and Buddhism? Was it ever a conflict at all or just some Touhou party hard kind of thing? I got out of the lore right around hopeless masquerade and this was the only thing that interested me until candlejack showed up to my house and

>>49869818
>HRtP stone
>It's the most basic shot type
>Except for the giant yin-yang orb that does huge damage and kills you if you touch it
>You can shoot it to manipulate it, otherwise it's always bouncing arouhd.

>4096 shot types each with Reimu and Marisa
So who wants to embark on a /jp/-wide mission? Everyone here works on trying to get an allshot 1cc (at least on Normal) for every single shot type and character combo.

>>49869851
Tbh kind of an awesome idea, fun mechanic to play with

>>49869805
The worst part about coming back to this board for the first time since the incident was learning that those swine apparently managed to keep their thread going. Which isn't shocking to me after the revelations that mods genuinely hate /jp/ for some reason but it's still upsetting.

>>49869884
The differences are so incredibly minor that it'd be practically the exact same thing on a vast majority of playthroughs.

>>49869823
Are there any touhous that canonically had sex?

>>49869845
>What was the whole point of the religious conflict between Shinto, Tao, and Buddhism?
Kokoro loses her Mask of Hope, which causes an imbalance that makes her syphon hope out of the humans in the village, which in turn makes them cling to the more prominent religious figures for hope.
They're exploiting their Hopelessness for a bigger followership
Also Koishi's fault for finding the mask and not returning it

>>49869884
Two of the slots you can equip aren't even related to your shot type so the amount of combinations isn't nearly that high in that respect.

>>49869892
They ain't keeping jack shit going. It's one of those mod/janny protected generals

What's everyone hoping for, for the rest of the cast? The cover girl I'm assuming is some sort of dino girl, which means that there might be some backwards time progression going on (that also doesn't involve Egypt). I'm hoping for a Sumerian God girl. Would also be interesting if the stage 5 boss is a cave girl.

>>49869845
I like Kokoro-chan and Koishi.

It's not a serious holy war. Basically, big players start noticing that the villagers are getting apathetic and aimless. They instead tried to fix it and at the same time gather faith through an overblown popularity contest. It's a religious popularity war framed as a faith battle spell card brawl.

Kokoro dropped her Hope mask by mistake pre-plot, which destabilized her. The 'hopelessness' pandemic was Kokoro absorbing hope from the village itself to replace her own lost emotion.

Koishi picked up the old Hope mask and kept it. Her possession of the mask inadvertently makes her a beacon of hope, drawing the attention of the villagers. This is actually a turning point for Koishi's lore because she felt real emotion because of the mask.

Ultimately, the various storylines converged on Kokoro. It's a journey of self-discovery of some sort. Kokoro eventually came to a realization: she could develop her own emotions, independent of her masks. This understanding allows her to stabilize her emotional state, even without the original Mask of Hope.

She was eventually sent to the Myouren Temple. To gain control over her emotions, Kokoro undertook training there. This was crucial because a new Mask of Hope, created for her by Toyosatomimi no Miko, had the potential to erase her individuality and revert her to a collection of inanimate objects if she couldn't manage her feelings. Canonically, if I remember correctly, Kokoro eventually gave Miko back the new Mask of Hope because of the reason before.

You now remember that HM was over 8 years ago.

>>49869929
I think /jp/ is the board with the single largest disconnect between mod/janny and user, it's rare to see a board whose modbase genuinely hates the average poster. Then you have boards like /mlp/ where the mods there are passionate and interested in the community with the pony flairs...

>>49869892
has it ever been more grim

>>49869446
>Will the final boss or extra boss use incident stones than the ones you can select don't represent?
I can see it being like HSiFS where you get a completely different, fixed shot type. I just hope that, if this happens, it works as well as it did then.

>>49869835
Not that anon, but Yuugi wins for consistency; most of the time she's drawn big breasted in official art. However, Urumi is the only one that ZUN deliberately drew that way, so she's probably the 2hu with the biggest tits.

>>49867882
ai

>>49869951
Someone who's pretty and not a memehu.

>>49869952
>You now remember that HM was over 8 years ago.

>>49869903
Suwako. Junko.

Sanae is descended from Suwako. This is why sometimes in fanon, Suwako calls Kanako a virgin. Because she scored.

Junko canonically stated that she had a son. If we're going by the Xuán Qī/Chún Hú myths, he died before the Common Era.

>>49869965
Nareko is beautiful, but I wish her shorts were a skirt.

>>49869976
I like how ZUN is using shorts more on girls. It's cute and goes with her stockings.

>>49869976
Nareko would not be the same without her stupid little british dork shorts and you know it.

>>49869976
I don't dislike her but she's a bit too gimmicky, falls into memehu category for me.
And no, the shorts are superior.

Wassup

>>49869953
/pw/ have it even worse. For some of us, /jp/ is like a refuge with okayish mods compared to /pw/. Hogan had to die for us to have a sticky.

>>49869953
Ironically, horsefuckers have the biggest disconnect between their board and the rest of the site. Barring the ones that were here before /mlp/ was created, the vast majority of them stay in their colony, with no interest in lurking/discovering the rest of 4chan.
/vt/ is the same, but they won't force, let alone make a GR15 for them

>>49869976
I hate how ZUN is using shorts more on girls. It's not cute and doesn't go well with anything.

>>49870003
I feel nothing for how ZUN is using shorts more on girls. Its quite boring but goes alright with everything

>>49869892
Very sad to see the absolute state of this place but what can you do about it

>>49869976
D O R K
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R
K

Hoping we get another boss-like final boss theme, like Nuclear Fusion. It's been a while.

>>49870012
triforce

>>49870017
Nuclear Fusion sucks. Give me another Emotional Skyscraper.

>>49870020
taste gonna taste I guess. Personally I think Emotional Skyscraper is overrated, but it's not bad. It's a bit unfitting for a final boss in a mainline series, I feel. Kind of more fitting for an RPG sorta game.

>>49870020
Emotional Skyscraper sucks. GIve me another Pure Furies.
Both of the tracks you mentioned are actually pretty good

>>49870017
Aren't most of them pretty boss-like? It's only really Emotional Skyscraper and True Administrator that are outliers.

Shorts and skub sucks.

>>49870029
excuse me mister contrarian but what might you be hoping for with the rest of TH20 that we haven't seen yet then?

>>49869835
Byakuren, Urumi, Yuugi and Miyoi.

Byakuren's sprites in the fighting games have giant tits.

Urumi is canonically stated.

Yuugi always has large ones in canon art, going back to the original alphes art which depicts her in the kimono. The costume eventually becomes fully canon.

Whaletits are consistently drawn with a large rack in her own manga.

>>49870033
hey FUCK YOU man

>>49867882
ZUN to pull some high and mighty nonsense with his wacky stance on AI in the plot as it progresses along, probably having the use of it increase more and more with each stage, with the final boss being the cause of it.

>>49869976
I adore the shorts. They really capture that archeologist and her being a dumb bitch who thinks if she tries hard enough she can become Egyptian theme.

>>49870033
Shorts do suck indeed, but skub is awesome.

>>49870033
Piss off antiskubs
Completely unrelated, but I'm reminded of one schizo on /m/ a couple years ago who'd go on and say Witch from Mercury was 'woke' for having female students wear shorts of all things

>>49869957
Well the season sub-types were a compliment to a main shot. Maybe instead of one fixed shot per character there's a different set of stones for the extra stage.

>>49870031
I feel most of them have boss-like segments but are mostly dramatic. Nuclear Fusion feels boss-like as a whole. Some others might be leaning more towards boss-like as well but I definitely don't think it's the norm.

I'm hoping for some cool stage background moments. Like the fake moon in IN stage 4 or the sun coming into view in UFO stage 6, I'm a sucker for that stuff.

>>49870038
MUH BOMES

I have the feeling Chimi will be the Extra stage midboss.

>>49870033
I do agree with that opinion.

>>49870072
Zun confirmed this in my dreams

i just want a good stage 5 gimmick

>>49870072
I hope not. She's basically my least favorite design of any 2hu by and far.

>>49870002
I would've thought /lgbt/ had the biggest disconnect, I thought there were literal Tumblr immigrants there

>>49870069
I'm convinced she's the girl on the cover.

I wonder if the streak of stage themes being better than boss themes will continue

Pointing out that /jp/ mods actively hate /jp/ and let the worst of the scum stay around isn't a pass for you to do le epic spoiler text complaining about your qualms with whatever other boards.

Nobody gives a fuck about that. This isn't a meta thread. It's the 2hu20 thread.

>>49870094
You're right, she is
>>49870091
Oh, right, that board exists...

>>49870017
I feel that tracks like Nuclear Fusion don't really play to ZUN's strengths so they end up feeling very "flaccid" for lack of a better word. I like Strawberry Crisis but the PC-98 soundchip or whatever lent itself well to that style of song but Nuclear Fusion sounds thin not unlike the guitar tracks from DDC though I still generally liked that soundtrack.

>>49870104
M-I-M-A, on the cover! Clear as a crisp spring morning.

>>49870103
You do care enough to make a post about it, tho.

>>49870103
Sorry about that
Last one

>>49870118
shut the fuck up

>>49870069
>>49870094
>>49870104
>>49870114
INB4 she actually is in

Since characters like Ellen, Kotohime, and Chiyuri were all references to characters Zun didn't create, I've had a theory for awhile that Mima is either from some obscure doujin series he liked or was created by someone he doesn't associate with anymore. That's why we'll never see her in a windows game.

>>49869694
It would be interesting see what shots the missing games would be like. DDC Reimu is pretty obvious

>>49870123
I can't, I am not speaking. Unless you hear voices through your device, then you should take your meds, bucko.

Mima comes back as the extra boss BUT it's a LLS situation where she has zero plot relevance

>>49870124
She is but as the extra boss

>>49870134
I'd take it

>>49870133
didnt read shut up retard

>>49869976
Her design is great except the earrings

>>49870142
But enough about you.

>>49870081
You know, I was aware that she caused some waves when the demo first came out but I figured any controversy over her design would've long since pittered out by now.
As a Chimi lover myself I'm curious now, how many people here are fine with/quite like the way she looks and how many others detest it as modern ZUNslop? Saying that the Gen 3 look isn't doing her any favors though won't be an accepted complaint, you could argue that over lots of the sprites he's done with the past few games. What matters is how well he's given other artists the tools to flesh her out more and what we see from that potential in time.
>>49870094
Pills.

>>49870017
Every final boss theme since and including Byakuren's has had the exact same structure. You'll have it memorized before it's done playing.

>>49870107
Nuclear Fusion is pure power and little else which fits Utsuho but as a composition it lacks the emotional heights that define his music. Border of Life and History of the Moon are both powerful while you can feel the sorrow of the former and scope of the latter but Nuclear Fusion is very straightforward. Great as a character piece but not so much as an individual song.

>>49870152
I don't hate her but her outfit is a little frumpy. The hair looks a lot better in fanart.

>>49870152
I think she needs shoes. I'm sick of barefoot 2hus, they look more homeless than Shion for fuck's sake.

>>49870172
Having shoes?! In this economy?!

>>49870152
I wouldn't even say I dislike it as "modern ZUNslop", whatever that means. I just think it has way too much going on in a not appealing way like other characters who have way too much going on.

>>49870164
>complaining about a 2hu's outfit being "frumpy"
Huh?
I don't see it either, this whore has exposed arms

>>49870152
I love her
She's possibly the most youkai (as in scary monster) we've had in a long while, quite possibly in the series.
Her weird warping, fighting her in a dark forest, the fact her theme is called "There is a monster in the woods".
She's awesome.

>>49870157
I don't really feel that power because the instrumentation is weak-sounding but otherwise I agree with you.

>>49870179
Other 2hus are frumpy in the way a Victorian doll is, Chimi is just a mishmash. I get why she is designed the way she is (representing her Spell Cards) but there are better ways to do it.

>>49870152
Both her and her Boss theme have my vote in the Popularity vote

>>49870152
She's been my favourite newhu since the demo came out
Only part of her design I dont like is the leaves

>>49869824
God I wish there was a barefoot version of this pic

>>49870192
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/4880709
Enjoy.

>>49870198
Not what I said

>>49870205
Massive improvement.

>>49869976
>shorts
unironically kys, shorts are the worst clothing to have ever been invented, ZUN needs to go back to using long skirts

>>49870180
Best design and track in the demo by far. Her nebulous connection to Nue is classic ZUN loremongering too.

>>49870205
Much better. I do wonder how many of ZUN’s modern track have been worse than his older ones solely because of the instruments he’s using, but the melody here still feels compositionally more basic than his older stuff.

>>49870236
ZUN's new setup is shittier than his old one. Compare the classics in 6-13 to the later versions. When he started abusing that dreaded guitar, I knew things were going downhill.

I actually think the instruments used for 20 are nice. Guitar included.

>>49869976
Instead of griping about shorts, we should grip about the complete lack of frills lately. Only one girl in the past 14 years has had bloomers!!

>>49870256
dildo sword

>>49870253
The guitar sucks balls but at least he's gone back to objectively superior acoustic drums.

>>49870256
I'd like Mayumi a lot more if it weren't for those balloons she's wearing.

I bet there's a second ending if you beat the final boss with all 4 stones of different colours equipped

>>49870245
The transition from traditional sounding instrumentals to synths, electric guitar and electronic drums killed a lot of my enjoyment of songs from that period. I’m not sure why he does it, it doesn’t fit with the setting at all. Classical sounding music was part of early Touhou’s charm. Can you imagine how much it would kill the atmosphere of EoSD if Remilia’s or Patchouli’s themes had that guitar in the back and the main melody played by a synth?

>>49870293
Listen for yourself. It's pretty awful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8VO0lgV8fU

my eyes are so heavy and comiket hasn’t even started yet

>>49870315
Not too much longer now.

>>49870322
it’s 2am i can’t do this
go on without me…

>>49870331
3am here. You're just weak.

>>49870331
It's 4am here, feeling like crumbling into dust

>>49870331
5am here, I just woke up.

>>49870315
I'm staying up for the stream, grab a few images, the MEGA with the game, and then i'm snoozing

>>49870157
I think Nuclear Fusion's simplicity also makes for a great final boss theme in general and it goes great with the gameplay in addition to just fitting Utsuho's character.

Though I will admit Border of Life in particular also does that better, especially with the second version of the theme being timed to the final spellcard.

9PM here, I've got this. Even if it were 5AM, I'd have it.

6pm
Easy mode

8AM
Feels good to not get fucked by timezones sometimes

>>49870311
Most of them are pretty bad but I actually quite like Ultimate Truth in this style but admittedly it's not THAT different. I don't disagree with you that ZUN should have never shifted to what the songs ended up becoming, I don't think there's anyone who'd ever say the overall soundtracks after LoLK the latest are on the same level as basically every single Windows era game before then.

Well, it is what it is. I don't like repeating the same three topics about ZUN getting worse in any way or another over the years, and especially not in a thread where most are genuinely excited for the newest game.

who /comiket/ here

>>49870311
It just sounds cheap, amature and lacks any kind of power. It’s so plastic and thin and ZUN doesn’t even layer his songs with things like strings in the back anymore so they sound empty and unfinished. The older style was very distinct despite still using shitty MIDI instruments, I haven’t heard much like it and I think the way the older PoFV and MoF drumkits sound and how they were sequenced gave the music an almost folkish vibe.

>>49870362
>I don't think there's anyone who'd ever say the overall soundtracks after LoLK the latest are on the same level as basically every single Windows era game before then.
Tourists who got into the series with those games sure would. I've seen people say Immemorial Marketeers is on par or better than Septette or Lunatic Princess.
Let's hope ZUN continues this trajectory in the full game, of actually trying with the music instead of phoning it in like he has been. I'm pleasantly surprised with the tracks so far.

>>49870017
Pure Furies and Idolatrize World are the most final boss-sounding tracks in the series. I really hope the new final boss theme is more like Pure Furies that said, but I've yet to be disappointed by a mainline game's OST so I'm just here for the ride.

Also 2 AM here. Had a few drinks and I'm just cruising

>>49870362
I prefer the newer soundtracks to the older ones.

>>49870017
I want one like Infinite Being.

9 am here, going to church

>>49870373
>Tourists who got into the series with those games sure would.
You could just admit they're people with an opinion that differs to your own. WBaWC and UM's soundtracks were fantastic.

I can't watch American entertainment live because its too late nor can I watch Japanese entertainment because its too early.

Just stopping by to say Mima is stinky, have a nice day.

>>49870377
Apparently you're a tourist if you think that. Such a funny take. I love the old soundtracks as much as the next touhou fan but I sincerely don't think ZUN has lost his touch whatsoever.

>>49870381
Not that anon but you are objectively wrong if you think either of those games soundtracks compare to MoF or IN. But also I imagine you're being intentionally wrong, because it's getting to be about that time that people come around to derail and start begging for rips for the next several hours.

>>49870381
Point proven.

>>49870362
I’ll stop going on about the music because I don’t want to bring down the mood of the thread but I’m so critical because I love what ZUN makes (or used to make) and want it to be as great as his best pieces. It’s not an excuse but I’m not shitting on him out of hatred, just a desire to see things improve but that’s not to say the new songs are bad at all. FW has a very strong start and maybe the best title theme in the series.

Here's your ex boss

>>49870383
Why on earth would you watch american entertainment? You an /asp/ie?

>>49870392
Stub your toe before going to bed, you smug retard.

>>49870392
>>49870394
"Objectively". You know there's no shame in just admitting you have a preference for a certain era of music, right? It's better to say that instead of using words you don't understand the meaning of.

>>49870396
Truly a celebration of the entire series

>>49870396
John Touhou, and the Stage 3 theme has Prester John in its name.

Prester John Touhou

if mima actually is in the game genuinely what the fuck do we do

I (dis)like how every single thread turns into this.

>>49870392
>IN
That game was a masterpiece. Lore, music, designs, feels, it has it all. That's what happens when ZUN actually puts in effort.

>>49870405
That word has only been written once in that entire reply thread. Arguing just to argue isn't going to make this game come out any faster.

>>49870411
There will be nothing to feel in our bones.

>>49870411
I'll lightly chuckle.

>>49870414
Except gameplay.

>>49870414
You just like IN cause it was easy.

>>49870411
Wake up, take our meds and never schizo that hard again

>>49870405
Objectively means factually, and factually MoF and IN music are better than WBaWC or UM's soundtracks. I don't think less of you for liking those games soundtracks like others might. I just think you're a retard for acting like some of the unarguable best soundtracks in the series are anything but the tip of the top, and your opinion on the matter doesn't compare to decades of love tracks that haven't even been out for decades don't even have a fraction of.

>>49870417
Yes, but its usage still fails in a conversation pertaining to subjective opinions. You can say "I like ZUN's older soundtracks over his newer ones". It's fine. That's a very common opinion, it doesn't make you special in any way. Bringing "objective" into the mix just makes you sound like a mouthbreather. Every game in the series has tracks I love and tracks I don't really care for, that's just the way I've always gone into these games since MoF. No need to put down people who you don't share an opinion with.

I'm definitely more invested in other people's opinions on the music than the music itself.

>>49870414
ZUN thought it was the finale to the series, so he wanted to go all out. Now that he knows that Touhou is never going to stop selling until he kicks the bucket, he has no reason to put his all into a single game.

>>49870414
The piano in that game was peak, Reach for the moon is the best song by far.

I love Kingdam of Nothingness and Tiny Shangri-La.

>>49870430
Again, the term "factually" doesn't hold the meaning you think it does. You're referring to tastes in music, which is objectively a subjective metric. I think it's nice you are this passionate about something you care deeply about, but why not acknowledge someone could feel just as strongly as you about something you don't care for? IN is my favourite OST in the series, but it's followed by LoLK and UM's OSTs. I don't really care if that's not a popular take, those are the soundtracks that have resonated with me the most. "Factually" in your posts is just a synonym for "my personal favourite". There's no shame in admitting that, anon. I won't think of you as lesser for liking certain game OSTs more than me.

>>49870392
Imperishable Night is pretty terrible in terms of music overall. It has a few all-time standouts for sure, but so much of the soundtrack is just nonsensical hectic piano without any beautiful rhythm or melody, just hectic piano for the sake of hectic piano. Plain Asia for instance is just... garbage. The most overrated soundtrack in the entire game series.

MoF is a ZUN highlight for sure though.

>>49870441
This and the monke theme are very very solid.

>>49870414
This but LoLK. OBJECTIVELY.

>>49870383
You'll always have BBC, at least.

The best thing about IN is that you can have it open at the same time as the newer games without one crashing.

>>49870411
Figure out how to wrangle the following onslaught from other PC-98 characterfags since the floodgates are now open.

I want to feel more invested in the music but I don’t understand it. I’ll listen to one song and think it sounds melancholic while everyone is talking about how cheerful it is. Rinse and repeat with any quality and the general consensus is the opposite. I don’t get it.

>>49870449
>BBC

>>49870441
I like how when the trumpets kick in it feels like the character you're playing as fighting back against Zanmu. At least that's how I see it.

>>49870456
Yuuka and Alice.

>>49870457
All that really matters is how the music makes you feel. What are some of your favourite tracks?

>>49870457
No, that's still other people's opinions you're concerned about.

>>49870457
ZUN's typical chord progression is a happy spin on a traditionally unhappy-sounding mode of music (minor scale). It's both happy and sad. Bittersweet is probably the word they're looking for.

>>49870458
Me and Yuuka. Gonna hit up comiket next year, here's hoping I find a cute jap into foreign darkies.

>>49870436
He does see the 20th as a milestone though.
https://x.com/tara_touhou/status/1950878680516817264

>>49870411
We wake up, because Mima is only ever going to be added in your dreams.

>>49870464
Alice and Yuuka got lucky thanks to circumstances, we're never getting another PC98 hu.

>>49870456
Tourists will start screaming about those unnamed midbosses that are weirdly popular among pc98fags. Or doing stupid shit like misspelling Louise as Luize.

>>49870472
You have permission to kneel before me in 6 hours when Yumemi is confirmed to be in this game.

>>49870477
Honestly I'd be kneeling just at the sheer balls ZUN would have to add to bring back Yumemi before Mima.

>>49870464
I mean since those two. Given how long it's been. Especially with how significant Mima in particular would be.

>>49870442
>"Factually" in your posts is just a synonym for "my personal favourite".
Well no, it has to do with the facts. You can say on your own merit what songs or soundtracks you like the most, but that doesn't change the facts already laid out in my post that both of those games entire OST's wouldn't even have half as many mixes as just one singular early Window's era game. You can go ahead and say "so how good a song is turns out just to be about popularity, so you're saying [INSERT COUNTRY POP STAR HERE] is better than all of Touhou" if you'd like a free cope for the fact that you're wrong, I suppose, since it's pretty clear you're genuine in your belief that some of the soundtracks that've reached every corner of the globe are someone worse than soundtracks even some fans might not like. Again, I'm not saying you're wrong for liking songs and having a different person taste from mine.

I'm just saying the claim of "it's all just opinions" is for those deaf to all but the song.

>>49870472
the only way i see for mima or pc98hus to appear in a mainline game it is when ZUN retires and someone else bring them for the sake of fanservice

>>49870457
Interpreting music is one of the most fun parts of the whole ordeal, in my opinion. I've had a lot of fun making up my own interpretation of the songs and what it possibly implied for the character or stage it belongs to, and the context they're in. That's also why i'm a bit less of a fan of themes when said context or intent jumps at you right away, as fitting for the character as it may be.

>>49870474
M'ai

>>49870411
Go to church. Wait for judgment day.

>>49870477
>Mimafags kill themselves on the spot

>>49870484
>the pyramid is actually the Probability Space Hypervessel
KINOOO

RIKA DOKO

>>49870494
Niggas here are all waiting for a chink to drop a DL link
chinks are not people, your point is moot

I'd honestly be fine with any PC-98 character returning but I think having Shinki appear in a manga or ending is the most logical thing. I would love to see Mima, but she would need something to do with all of the other heroes and assholes around.

>>49870256
@grok is this true

>>49870506
>moot
Who?

>>49870501
RIKAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!

>>49870256
>>49870516

>>49870500
If ZUN bring Yumemi back and validates the "Yumemi is future Renko" theory I will glue one of my shins to the floor so I may perpetually kneel to ZUN.

>>49870465
Probably Border of Life. It’s beautiful and I get such a clear picture in my head with each verse but I think a lot of my perception of the meaning and emotion behind each song is only because I’m aware of the context. Like I think the ZUNpet chorus of Captain Murasa sounds like a ship sounding it’s horns (there’s an actual name for it but I can’t recall) and the piano parts sound like water droplets but I doubt I’d think that if I didn’t know who she was. It’s funny because I’m struggling to think of an example but whereas even here people mention ZUN’s typical progressions being happy takes on minor ones (>>49870467), most songs are quite melancholic to me except for ones that are so clearly upbeat you’d be mad to think they weren’t like HSiFS’s stage one theme or Corpse Voyage. I don’t think it’s because most of his pieces are all in the minor key either.

https://xcancel.com/korindo/status/1956887438863073791
ｷﾀ━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━!!

>>49870533
>Those little pyramid keychains

>>49870533
>End of line
Ominous...

>>49870457
go take a class on music theory and learn chord progressions and modes at the very least. being able to tell if something is doric vs ionian or I IV V I vs IVM7 V7 iii7 vi goes a long way.

>>49870533
Soon...

>>49870533
>>49870535
Fuck I want those

>>49870536
Not so fast.

>>49870544
What the fuck, make up your mind, Reimu.

>>49870544
>You can't line up here newly

>>49870544
>uses AI for backgrounds
>can't use AI for translations
this man

>>49870490
I largely disagree with your point but your last line made me smile. Feels nostalgic coming into a thread prior to a mainline 2hu release after all these years seeing posts like this. I hope you enjoy the new game, anon.

>>49870533
NEWHU HYPE

>>49870530
Well, nips LOVE their major anniversary years. So a 20th installment is probably the biggest chance you're gonna get for something big to happen until the 25th.
Or 50th if Zun makes it another 30 years.

Latest ten characters with bloomers:
Mayumi
Seiran
Seija (confirmed in Grimoire of Usami)
Mamizou
Shou
Nazrin (confirmed in Th19)
Youmu
Letty
...Huh, not that many actually.

>>49870554
Honestly, I hope you do too. I hope we all do, the demo was genuinely awesome.
>>49870544
But can I line up here oldly?

>>49870457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrYm3OgRvk8
I like how melancholic this sounds, especially for a stage 1 theme
I guess TD stage 1 is somewhat similar

>have early AM ticket
>woke up late because of a sakuya cosplayer
>had to be yelled at while eating breakfast from a remilia scarlet cosplayer
>late to the line
>cosplay has a coffee stain on it

Fucking baka morning

Demo was shit
Game will be shit
I'd rather wait for Ciconia phase 2

>>49870550
No no, you see, the AI is a plot device. It's a devious malefactor manifesting inside of Gensokyo and distorting it as AI's development shakes the outside world. 20 is where it crops up, 21 will be dealing with it, 22 will be a seemingly inconsequential game about color theory.
t. my uncle works for Miss Shanghai Alice.

>>49870550
I hope ZUN never gets rid of his engrish.

>>49870569
I don't know music theory at all, but this song gives me the feeling that whatever is happening is a big deal, and this is just the moment things begin to finally unravel. Which I guess is what ZUN had in mind considering the comment about a particularly urgent incident or something like that.

>>49870573
Unsubscribing from your blog.

>>49870580
Right, definitely sounds pretty intense. I have high hopes for the later stage themes. Honestly the stage 1 theme wouldn't be that out of place as a stage 6 one.

>>49870573
I hope your day gets better.

>>49870573
Go get a choco monaka jumbo.

>>49870575
What kind of theory could there be about color? Red is red, and blue is blue. Is ZUN stupid?

>>49870607
But what if red is blue and blue is red? Now that's a theory.

>>49870607
But have you also considered that Yellow is yellow and Green is green?

GAME IS UP
https://litter.catbox.moe/wscucaputpp8k21f.zip

>>49870107
I agree that it's certainly not one of the peaks in his career but variety is good too.

>>49870619
i HATE dolphins.

>>49870616
WRONG
Green in Yellow + Blue

>>49870607
Sorry, you're getting blue reimu, red is actually blue now.

>>49870619
Ooooo porpoises how exotic

>>49869823
Is there anyone in Touhou who beats Wally West?

>>49870474
stfu bewitching lotus flower is my husbando

>>49870647
shingyoku (m) is better

Mima will show up as a mid-boss, do absolutely nothing but flip the bird at you and then just fuck off, never to be seen again.

Interesting

>>49870619
well damn
that was fast

>>49870472
>Alice and Yuuka got lucky thanks to circumstances
What the fuck does that even mean?

>>49870657
how

>>49870619
wtf how

>>49869823
How long have you been maintaining this for? Is it all digital or do you have some kind of physical tome?

>>49870657
ITSUKAAAAAA

>>49870616
You're gunna wanna sit down for this.

>>49870607
Well for a very long time people used to argue about how many colors you needed for a map.

It's 4.

>>49870619
That's some dedication to the craft.
What is this, gamemaker?

where the FUCK is the stream

>>49870619
Nice

>>49870668
Digital.

I've been doing so for at least three years. It's a mixture of fandom documentation and canon documentation, sprinkled with a bit of my own interpretations.

The whole thing is still very canon-adherent and not too ridiculous.

I have another lorebook for extended universe elements. The 1885 establishment of the Barrier, the First Maiden, the cuisine and drinks of the land, power/electricity, structure and logistics, the Tengu settlement, etc. I keep asking "what, why, who, and how" to each element and work from there.

I also have another lorebook concerning everything in the Outside World. Since ZUN doesn't talk about it much, most of it is fanfiction that I poured too much time into.

>>49870575
>>49870607
CMY > RGB
RGB needs BULLIED.

spoilers dont open
dont know how to feel about this design

Any /jp/ers here

>>49870689
I would stream but cell signal goes from 100 to 0 the second you get inside

>>49870698
ugly :(

>>49870698
Cut design but the use of the dodge and burn tool and the 1080p background and the score and the

>>49870698
I like it. I just need to accept that more simple designs won't come back.

>>49870698
Interesting background.

>>49870695
That's cool but I play the PC-98 games so I don't care

>>49870698
She kinda cute but a meh boss
Post the other ones

Is anyone else prepared to buy this on steam, leave a review trashing the AI, and immediately refund the game?

>>49870698
wait this is real? how if there hasn’t been any leaks yet

>>49870698
I don't care for the "banner" I suppose?
It makes the design unnecessarily busier than it already is.

that's a fanmade from otohime, people

>>49870710
i'm not gay, a furry, or a discord user, so no

>>49870698
Pretty cute actually.

>>49870711
There was a 2hu party last night over here at the hotels I know a few people were given copies early

>>49870698
Try translating the text of the tweets next time before posting

>>49870698
She needs to stop hogging up the whole screen. Fat ass.

>>49870698
What's that she's holding? A flag? A banner

>>49870699
that's fine anon, thank you for thinking about us anyway

>>49870718
ah right i see. how was the orgy?

Fake and gay.

Jippies frotting?

>>49870694
ZUN uses Godot now? Wtf.

Someone posted the back of the cd case
We were joking when we said the eyeball in the logo meant we were getting mama Komeiji but why is there heart danmaku...

It's kinda funny the real newhu was ignored for a really nice but obvious fake.

>>49870710
i'm an aryan white male, so yes

>>49870729
>>49870657
This one?

>>49870728
I'm seeing white hair?

>>49870698
Horrendous.
Zun's simply lost it.

>>49870733
Yes, even confirmed for real here >>49870728

>>49870698
Eh, a bit disappointed that's a banner pole and not a tail, design feels a bit busy like the other anon says as a result, but I guess it fits the theme of the cover.

>>49870698
i dont believe it. score seems too low

>>49870737
Way too blurry to make any details.

IT'S A FANMADE BY OTOHIME PEOPLE.

>>49870743
That makes it better

>>49870743
blue skirt, white/light green tail

>>49870735
WTF MY BONES?!

>>49870722
no worries if anyone has requests for some pics I can post them later
>>49870723
idk but there were a lot of girls, the jp meet is usually 99% dudes or chicks with dicks, I was just happy that a goldship cosplayer and a shimakze stopped me for photos.


If anyone is interested there is a 2hu event tonight https://t.livepocket.jp/e/bsmjz
also: good site for those here in Japan for events https://www.toho-ongakureki.com/schedule

See ya guys around, stay hydrated

>>49870698
this is such a interesting design, i glad ZUN is going with a more unique approach

>>49870751
enjoy friend! <3

IT'S NOT REAL YOU SHITSKIN ESL RETARD

>>49870619
Music sauce?

>>49870698
Well it's... Unique to say the least.

Stop being racist chud

Good thing it's fanmade. Mikado is a weak ass name

>>49870768
no it's not...

>>49870698
What the fuck is that

mikado avacado

>>49870619
Thanks for the link anon!

>>49870768
KING OF THE NIGHT
MIKADO
SPEED UP THE NIGHT
MIKADO

>>49870768
DAURAGON C. MIKADO

>>49870788
You know what I've changed my mind
Because you reminded me of that Mikado webm with the winking popout lights

>>49870698
that background is far beyond zun's capabilities lol

>>49870698
KUYASHII

>>49870801
those pillars could easily be photographs

>>49870777
>m*nga reader
Opinion discarded

>>49870808
it's good shit, you retarded humans wouldn't know

>>49870619
Anyone have a link for the Touhou 16 one that ended up being an edit of Touhou 15? I lost that in a drive that crashed.

>>49870801
AI generated

There won't be any newhu cats, what's the point?

>>49870698
IT'S TIME TO D-D-D-D-DUEL

>>49870803
HE HATES IT!

>>49870698
I really like it but I won't believe it its real until i get to the end myself

>>49870820
Surely he wouldn't give us an Egypt game without cats...

>>49870820
is 3 kots really not enough?

CD label

>>49870843
oooooh shiny

>>49870843
They need to hurry up.

ANYONE STREAMING????

>>49870835
Surely...
>>49870837
You can never have too many catgirls anon!

>>49870843
Where the Newhus?

>>49870857
there's 8 chinese streams
4 are practicing the demo
2 are playing fangames
1 is listening to music
1 is playing plants vs zombies

>>49870868
>1 is playing plants vs zombies
MY HERO

>>49870868
>pvz
fusion? that one is actually fun

>>49870619
What's wrong with the link?

>>49870868
>1 is playing plants vs zombies
Hell yeah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMJA33CDG0U

>>49870868
Based

>>49870869
Got I just want to toss those flip-flops aside and sniff those FEETS

>>49870869
God I just want to pull her top off and motorboat her tits

>>49870869
God I just want to steal her glass and drink it myself

FINAL BOSS THEME LEAKED
https://xcancel.com/BunbunmaruPage/status/1955909643731132897

>>49870885
This is why I prefer /jp/hu

>>49870884
Before or after she's sipped it?

>>49870885
>replies
>teenager trooned out remiliafag
It's just too much.

yuukarin HATES lewdposters

>>49870885
i like it

>>49870890
either is fine

any good pc 98 reimu h-doujins?

>>49870885
Music to my ears...

ENOUGH WITH THESE FAKE LINKS
BRING ME A STREAM OF IT OR AN ACTUAL LEAK OR NEVER POST ANYTHING EVER AGAIN

>>49870915
https://live.bilibili.com/23392364?live_from=84001
Lily White is playing the demo

>>49870885
Bunbunmaru is a reliable source they never spread disinformation.....
Bunbunmaru is a reliable source they never spread disinformation.....
Bunbunmaru is a reliable source they never spread disinformation.....
Bunbunmaru is a reliable source they never spread disinformation.....
Bunbunmaru is a reliable source they never spread disinformation.....

>>49870917
cool man we haven't seen the demo yet

How are you guys holding up?

>>49870920
please wait warmly, even the chink streamers havent gotten their hand on it yet

>>49870925
playing other 2hus to pass the time

>>49870925
reading WaHH

>>49870928
Why would wagger do this

>>49870917
Damn... this chinese fuck is pretty ok at it

>>49870885
Last I checked I recall ZUN's lawyer raping these people spreading fake leaks up the ass

https://xcancel.com/richard_effendi/status/1956903362215219352
>this faggot is an indog
explains everything

>>49870937
A CHINESE STREAMER WHO ACTUALLY KNOWS HOW TO PLAY?

>>49870927
mfw the chinks have to actually fly back to china before uploading the game

>>49870947
What's indog?

>>49870915
Guy playing the full game in an hour
https://www.youtube.com/live/lzDOCYb2rCE

>>49870947
Am I supposed to know who this is?

>>49870958
nothing much dog

>>49870958
Indonesian

Is the event still going?

>>49869976
I like shorts! They're comfy and easy to wear!

>>49870963
damn
>>49870966
wrong answer. die

>>49870925
a bit annoyed that i haven't been able to keep up with the updates in real time in years and the one year i can it's late.

>>49870937
>sex fox
etto???

>>49870932
Are you enjoying it?

is this touhou 20 gameplay?
https://live.bilibili.com/31999762?live_from=84001

>>49870698
it's been over for a while but holy shit man
ZUN is washed up

>>49870991
got me fucked up doing chinese captchas

>>49870997
Just click the kanji in order

>>49870991
What the fuck is this
Why is it so loud
Why is it left 4 dead
Why is it running at 10 fps

>>49870985
Yes.
I'm on chapter 3 and it's pretty comfy so far.
Reimu is as expressive as ever and Kasen is mommy.

>>49870997
Even if you've never done any reps it's literally right there for you.

>>49871005
dont fucking tell me what to do faggot.

now post Remilia_48

ITS UP ITS UP
MY PEANUS WEENUS IS UP :DDDD

>>49871022
hehe i get it

the night is young

>>49871030
Nice.

>stage 4: Kaaken Borutochura
>stage 5: Tsunida Chakuzi
>stage 6: Anora Sakamfurenzu
>extra: Mima

>>49871029
Sun's about to rise here
Night's dead

>>49870128
If she's from an obscure doujin, I hope we find it someday, could shed some more light on other things that influenced ZUN

>>49871009
I'm glad to hear that, Anon. I hope you have a fun time while waiting for the leaks.

>>49871030
The mistress would never wear such scandalous underwear and lift her dress like that!

LEAKED FOOTAGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

>>49871053
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iqyYitzTuw

Man if I knew it takes this long for the leaks, I could've gotten 2 extra hours of sleep...

>>49870991
bro wtf is that stream

https://live.bilibili.com/14315174?live_from=84001
up for real 100%

>>49870710
AI is the future of the world and of Touhou. Cry some more.

>>49871063
Each game is its own case on how quickly it leaks.

>>49871067
it's actually legit, thanks anon

newhu!!!!

>>49871068
Touhou is the only big indie going this route and it's also the only one dying.

>>49871067
loving that stage song also GHOST GIRL

>>49871067
Oh shit thanks anon, spoilers for newhu

>>49871085
>those hands
OHHH NOONONONO AHAHAHA

The fuck is that. And why is the stage the inside of a bouncy castle?

>>49871085
>>49871087
She looks evil I'm scared

>>49871085
name is Yuiman Asama

>>49871079
Good thing it's adapting to modern technology then. Didn't know you only played the PC-98 games.

>>49871085
>>49871087
Hold up, she kinda cute.

I don't want a stream. I want to play the game...

>>49871087
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT BACKGROUND?

>>49871067
damn
doesn't work for me

>>49871085
>>49871087
The girl looks worse than the dogshit stage background

>>49871087
Hello?

>>49871087
Are those textures nonsensical AI slop

>>49871100
I just wanna hear the music!

>>49871087
>>49871085
So this was the newhu on the backcover... (looked like Mima there)
She looks cool

>>49871109
It's never going to be Mima.

>>49871085
FUCK ME THAT'S GLORIOUS
Going to sleep and wake up to more, great first impression.

>>49871085
She reminds me a bit of the Katanagatari girl.
I hope fan arts don't make her a boob monster.

Liking the later stage music much more than the earlier ones.

Midboss gives an extend. God bless.

>>49871087
What the fuck are her hands

ZUN why are you so lazy

clothes design is a disaster just like every other recent characters

The game looks really hard

WATATSUKIIIIIIIIIII

YOU GOTTA BE SHITTING ME

WHAT THE FUCK

ARE
YOUY
FUCKING
KIDING ME????

!?!?!?!

oh fuck Silent Sinner in Blue is canon.

holy shit, watatsuki

What the fuck?

>>49871120
The demo was hard too, but there was also a pretty big stratification between the strong shots and the weak shots.

What the fuck is she doing here?!?

Her theme song sounds bad.

Final boss

>>49871132
Presumably the pyramid went to the moon. Somehow.

i wonder if marisa fights the other one

>>49871134
>literally a bone themed boss
lmfao

>>49871134
I really like the way she looks

>The story has fuck all to do with AI
Not surprised in the slightest, ZUN lying again

The moon has been a focus point for more than a decade. When will we be free from it!? Her song is good though

THE RETURN OF THE KING (princess)

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT MOONBITCHES

>get told stuff might drop at 5 am
>go to sleep
>can't sleep well
>wake up at 4 am with no alarm
>everything has been dumped already
fug

how the fuck did she even get involved in this game

I want to fuck the Watatsuki sisters

>>49871122
>>49871123
>>49871126
Defend this. I dare you.

>haha that character looks like one of the Watatsukis
>
>WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE

>>49871122
lmao what the fuck
>>49871134
maximum chuuni, I love her

>>49871140
Will Vargskelehtor Joel now play toohoo?

>>49871134
>anon wasn't lying
FUCK

>>49871154
ZUN putting a non game character in is one of his best decisions, ever.

I have moon fatigue. I wish Junko succeeded.

Wonder how Yukari's doing.

I wonder if each main shot fights a different stage 5 boss. I'm glad to see Watatsuki.

I am praying that the game has alternative routes. Especially since it makes no sense for there to only be one of them instead of the other.

>final boss is named Anya
I DEMAND IMMEDIATE SPY X FAMILY CROSSOVER FANART

>>49871152
>Need to act like 20th installment is big deal
>Just grab some random established character and act like anyone still cares about the moon.
>call it a day

>ZUN's art looks worse than ever
>Shitty AI backgrounds
He should have just handed the series over to someone else by now, this is embarrassing

this final boss theme is kind of ass

I'm laughing like a madman.
Literally no fucking one could have predicted moonbitches being in.

HOW IS THE FINAL BOSS THEME EVEN WORSE THAN CHIMATA'S THEME?

this doesn't feel like a stage 6 boss theme at all, more like a bad remix of one

slop

>>49871154
I like the moonbitches so I'm happy that one of them is in a mainline game

>>49868971
>>49869002
Ok which one

Themes kind of basic, I guess it fits but idk

>>49871179
Chimata's theme is excellent though.

>>49871179
Fuck you man Chimata’s theme owns

>>49871179
chimatans theme goes hard fuck you

>>49871184
White hair.

>>49871156
MOOOOOOOOOOOON
>>49871134
What a funky little chunni creature.

>>49871179
Retard.

Mid-fight dialogue?

>>49871134
She looks more like Nue's relative than Nue's actual relative.

>>49871186
>>49871187
>>49871188
CHIMATA'S THEME SOUNDS LIKE A DISTORTED TORNADO SIREN WHAT DO YOU ALL MEAN?

Nothing has yet to surpass Keiki's theme for me in terms of recent final boss themes...

nice to see watatsuki
mid final boss

the laziest danmaku

>>49871195
BECAUSE YOU’RE LISTENING TO A TORNADO SIREN DIPSHIT

>>49871134
I like her look
she looks cool

>>49871184
Draw them both lezzing out.

>WAOW GUYS HE PUT SOME LITERAL WHO FROM A DECADE AND A HALF AGO IN
>ZUN IS THE GOAT FR FR
Good thing his modern audience has a room temperature IQ.

This is probably the ugliest final boss ever, I hope the extra stage girl looks fine otherwise the only popular character of this game will be Nareko (and very maybe the stage 4 girl).

good job chink you only died 38 times on normal

>>49871184
tocchan

music hasn't been good since he started overusing that fucking electric guitar

That was a remarkably lame Last Word spell card.

the fuck was those basic spellcards seriously

>>49871207
>literal who
fuck off tourist
stage 6 boss sucks btw

>>49871134
It's pretty bad that his art from 20 years ago looks better.

>>49871207
Genuinely who even likes the Watatsukis? SSiB demystified the moon and turned it into one of the lamest aspects of Touhou's lore.

2hu really is reclining. It's over.

So us Yorihime around then or??

>>49871220
2hu is flat lining.

Stop talking chink and go back to playing

/v/hus found this thread maybe

OST dump when?

>>49871212
He doesn't even use it properly. It always sounds so thin and half-hearted.

>>49871222
Might be the alternate boss for that stage depending on the shot type or character.

>>49871218
Traditional artist. Moves to Digital. Lost all charm. Skill lost. Tries to regain it. Fails. Complete downgrade. Never improves. Many such cases!

>>49871222
Too busy having incest.

Didn't like stage 4 boss, didn't like final boss. Watatsuki makes up for it though.

bro its shitty me ill play old games instead when the old man knew how to make a new game now just makes for $$$

Please let the moonbitches be the Extra bosses, I want to see a genuine meltdown

>>49871212
It's almost like he should have retired a decade ago but felt some retarded pressure to keep going so now we are just watching this series slowly rot away as each new game gets shittier, meanwhile the fangames blow them out of the water

GET BACK TO PLAYING STFU

>The best part of newhu... is the surprise oldhu
If you want proof that things have indeed reclined it will be this.
I guarantee you that this will be by far and wide the most talked about thing about this new game.

>it sucks
>final boss is mid
>spell cards are basic
>music is lame
Who /notadoomer/ here

Oh shit right.
Uh, pretend I posted something super doomer about how it’s all over and that ZUN is washed or something.

>>49871235
yeah what the hell? he finally started getting paid to make these games and now all of a sudden its full of AI? fuck

i haven't liked a new touhou game since LoLK

is there any other stream? this fucker won't shut up

>>49871242
I thought the final boss was cool though

GIVE ME A HELL YEAH IF YOU FUCKING HATE MOONIE SCUM

>>49871219
ZUN are the Watatsukis' strongest soldiers.
I kinda like them if only because everyone says Toyohime is like super thicc but otherwise yeah, they are remarkably lame antagonists.

So who uses those Koishi looking spells?
That white haired newhu?

>>49870698
>It's yet another 2hu showing off her lewd feet

>>49871248
basically the chigger keeps talking to it sunderrage child sex slave instead of playing the game it keeps looking at its music sreen

>>49871253
I just want the narrative to move on from the moon shit if they aren't going to do anything interesting with it

>>49871242
This game is bad and you don't have to pretend it's good just because it's Touhou

So the extra is the other moon sue huh.

>only place dooming are English speakers
Every release is the same comments. Can't you guys be happy for once?

>>49871261
Is he talking to a TTS? It's super weird.

>>49871207
You would all go nuts if he put in Remi and Flan

>>49871268
No, I'm addicted to getting angry over trivial bullshit!

>>49871268
no

>>49871268
You know they never will be

>>49871268
most of the doomers are from /v/ i suspect

Calling it, Yorihime’s the extra boss

>>49871226
>people don't like the game
>MUST BE /V/ GUYS
Fuck off, this isn't a ZUN echo chamber

>>49871268
>Only place with standards are the English speakers
Every release is the same comments. Can't you guys not be such shit eaters for once?

Where the FUCK is the download link???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rijXc6zSaU4
Other player

>>49871271
i don't want to see them redrawn in his new flat artstyle with normal colored skin

>>49871268
happy about what exactly?

>>49871270
Is the TTS zundamon? It kinda sounds like her but I can't tell

can someone with a bilibili account log in and tell this guy to 失せろ? please.