India loves Japan very much.

Isn't Japan in the Uk Tempest program?

Lol they want their money, not their manufacturing prowess.

It'll still be built in Japan and the UK.

India's money spends just as well as anyone else's.

>>63736831
It is the same program.

>>63736831
Officially, it's a tri-national program under GIGO (GCAP international Government Organisation) called GCAP (Global Combat Air Programme).

Tempest is the British governments' internal name of the GCAP manned fighter.

Japan is currently internally calling it "Reppu," which translates to "strong wind" or "gale".

Not sure what name Italy is using.

>>63736855
>Japan is currently internally calling it "Reppu," which translates to "strong wind" or "gale".
based 'n trad

>>63736827 (OP)
OP reeks of gutter oil and bat soup

Oh boy I can't wait to see what tech transfer monstrosity this will create.

>>63736855
>Japan is currently internally calling it "Reppu," which translates to "strong wind"

>>63736842
Your wants are utterly worthless.
japs and bongs can no longer domestically manufacture anything.
Your jets have been needfully redeemed.

>>63736940
You can't even assemble a Rafal parts kit right Sar

>>63736980
sar the french benchods delivered low quality planes it is established

Is this a "Hello Hindu-san, your penis vely big prease invest in new plane thank you" or are they actually planning on using Indian industry?

>>63737022
aucun remboursement hon hon hon

>>63737024
Japan wants India propped up to counter China. A strong India counters China. India has no beef with US/UK/Japan, historically nor in forseeable future. Its the safest bet.

>>63737189
>India has no beef with [UK], historically
What did he mean by this?

>>63737201
They dont hate the UK though, they didnt hate it during the rule and they dont hate it now. There's no real outstanding beef. If anything, there's more in connection due to past commonwealth heritage.

>>63736913
>Oh boy I can't wait to see what tech transfer monstrosity this will create.
None, since they're not looking at India to manufacture or provide technology assistance.

They want India as a buyer to bolster the program's long-term prospects on the global market.

There isn't a snowballs chance in hell either the UK or Japan would let India have real tech transfer like the special sauce needed for jet engines or stealth airframes.

>>63737225
There's a manufactured one by the BJP actually. Have you not noticed all the rampant online posting about the Bengal famine, Britain stealing artifacts and demands for UK reparations for colonialism?

>>63737251
That's the demand India makes when it does procurements. It wants Indian manufacturing and tech transfers which will sometimes include trying to trap the supplier by making them also liable for the build quality.

>>63737189
>India has no beef

>>63737328
>There's a manufactured one by the BJP actually. Have you not noticed all the rampant online posting about the Bengal famine, Britain stealing artifacts and demands for UK reparations for colonialism?
Irrelevant and minor things.

Expect to have the program become completely compromised if you include India in any meaningful way.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/09/world/europe/indian-defense-uk-technology-russia-weapons.html
> In its statement, Hindustan Aeronautics said that the parts were used for helicopters operated in India.
> Shipping records showed that, in some instances, within days of receiving the British equipment, it shipped parts to Russia with the same identifying product codes. Those codes relate to specific types of equipment, such as radar technology, but can cover a number of parts. H.R. Smith said that meant the codes could not be used to connect its parts to those sold by the Indian company.
> The Indian company, Hindustan Aeronautics, is the biggest trading partner of the Russian arms agency Rosoboronexport.
> Hindustan Aeronautics is identifiable in public records as a supplier to the Russian military but is not under financial sanctions, so British companies are allowed to sell to it.

>>63737328
they'd sooner go back to Saudi Arabia than bring india in for any sort of actual manufacturing/tech work.

>>63736827 (OP)
Obviously they will write code for the project.

>>63737225
>They dont hate the UK though
this is what the typical amiercan knows of the world

>>63737430
The indian people as a whole MIGHT, but realistically the indians in power have no great hatred of the UK, some of them were educated there.

>>63737442
>The indian people as a whole MIGHT
Not even. Maybe some extremes of politically active ones of some party, but those are probably minority. My read on Indian politics is that they are more distracted by Pakistan/terrorism/economic growth than past misgivings of UK. There's prob no teeth to the "we hate UK because of past" thing.

>>63736855
>Japan is currently internally calling it "Reppu," which translates to "strong wind" or "gale".
So a tempest?

>>63736827 (OP)
India has their own fighter program:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_AMCA

>>63736827 (OP)
J-36 is a bomber, not a fighter. Look at its size.

>>63737589
>wiki page
lol be nice to the foreigners man, they're simple.

>>63737577
No, a tempest is a strong storm. The Reppu is the name of a WWII fighter they had >>63736867 which directly translates to "strong wind". With no connotation (or denotation) for a storm, the Japanese word for a storm/tempest is Arashi.

>>63737447
>read on Indian politics is that they are more distracted by Pakistan/terrorism/economic growth than past misgivings of UK.
Most of the terrorism in India is ethnic and communist insurgencies in the eastern half of the country, which Indian media, politicians and nationalists largely ignore and downplay in favor of propping up exaggerated claims of Kashmiri terrorism, Pakistan, and conspiracy theories around Muslims.

>>63737430
>>63737447

I think it's like they are projecting the spic upon the jeets.
And sorry for going a bit off-topic but I suppose there is a matter of psychological study on jeets when compared to spics because their circumstances where somewhat similar, the average spic has come to terms with his spanish ascendancy due their wars of independence, so yeah, they are part spanish and part native, in the end they freed themselves fighting actual wars and aside from some schizo lefties and alt-rights came to terms with their own background, so even natives were "good enough to eventually mix with the spanish", in fact Spain considered their american territories part of Spain, not just colonies, the jeets on the other hand, most of them don't have a single drop of european blood, a lack of interest in miscegenation is a collective way of saying from UK "you are not even worth mating with", no amount of tech transfer including nuclear and space technologies can overcome that, and they basically became independent by begging and threatening to kill themselves.
You can see the effects of this on their psyche on how they are so desperate to save face whenever they screw over their military operations, or things like trying to look like they defeated USAF when doing some joint exercises and what no, throw in their caste system and you have a complete emotional mess.
Tl;dr: jeets are historically and collectively traumatized.

>>63737743
there was a subclass of interbred bongs and pajeets
but they fucked of to the rest of the anglo sphere, got murdered by the jeets or got reabsorbed by the great poo mass
regardless they where such a small fraction of the population that they don't really mater
but that's an other part of jeet insecurity, they where kept down by like a tiny, tiny number of bongs when you look at their population.
no it was other jeets keeping them in control like the amritsar gene pool improvement. One bong with a swagger stick and 50 pajeet seppois killed 500 pajeets in one go
the bong officer didn't even bother to draw his pistol, just gave the word

>>63737354
>But where's beef

>>63736827 (OP)
Why no link to source?

https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2025/05/03/japan-taps-india-for-next-gen-fighter-to-rival-chinas-j-36/

>>63737630
>a tempest is a severe storm, often characterized by strong winds

>>63737967
Yes, whereas the japanese word is JUST strong wind, with no storm required.

A tempest is a STORM characterized by strong winds.

The Japanese word Reppu is just a term for strong winds, not a storm.

>>63737589
How's that domestic jet engine coming along, btw?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTRE_GTX-35VS_Kaveri

>>63736827 (OP)
>6th Gen
>Vertical control surfaces

>>63736855
The first missile who managed to shoot down GCAP aircraft should name said missile "Reppu-kiri" or "Tempestbane"

This program is fake, it exits only to pretend to acquire next-gen fighter jets. None of the countries involved want to spend on an actual program so they throw a small amount of money at an office someplace to produce CG, do small-scale experiments, etc.

>>63738678
From what I understand the actual people developing the aircraft aren't calling it 6th gen, it's mostly just the media.

I think it's safe to call it 5.5 gen though.

>>63737225
India aligns itself with Russia though, and buys Russian weapons, the only real difference is Pakistan swapped to the Chinese side, so India will probably look to the west for tech and weapons instead, which means they will probably want to cut off Russia for that, but they won't.

>>63738833
You would be wrong.

>>63738678
>>63738833
>Vertical control surfaces are what make planes a 6th gen
You're going to be disappointed when we start arguing for 7th, because vertical surfaces aren't really the main difference between these arbitrary distinctions of plane generations, so we're probably going to see 6th, 7th and maybe even 9th gen with vertical stabilisers.

India requirements: Pilot needs to have a toilet seat!

India won’t leave Russia simply because it’s a corrupt peasant kingdom and there’s a strong oligarch money connection.

>>63736940
Having seen Sig Saar's quality, I remain unconvinced.

>>63738857
>indians
>using a toilet
>ever

>>63736827 (OP)
>Involving India in any way shape or form
So does Japan want absolutely no secrecy about the capabilities and technology of the aircraft?

>>63737743
The seethe against bongs and colonialism is only one side of their inadequacy. The real problem for them is that the caste mentality is deeply, almost genetically ingrained into them to the point their very thought processes are informed by it, and yet, the whole world sees them all as the same breed of people. They cant make sense of society where there's no designated untouchables or priestly, scholar class. They dont know how to operate as a high ranking person that does lowly tasks personally, or a low ranking person that holds higher standards, thats why they suck at hygiene, work ethic, meritocracy, honesty, and so on, they are either too good to bother or not good enough to care. They are overly submissive to those they might perceive as outwardly strong and shamelessly take advantage of anyone weaker. The caste system simply makes them incompatible with western society.

>>63736855
>Not sure what name Italy is using.
We're calling it the diocan

>>63737589
Apparently the talks also included transfer of fighter engine tech (IHI XF9) for AMCA.
https://defence.in/threads/india-eyes-japanese-xf9-engine-for-amca-stealth-jets-proposing-strategic-engine-collaboration-to-bolster-indo-pacific-defence.14146/

>>63736855
>Japan is currently internally calling it "Reppu," which translates to "strong wind" or "gale".
Nips really go nuts and call their fighters "Rape".

>>63739496
>defence.in
>.in
yea, just no

>spend trillions on developing super duper fighter plane
>enemy spams your airfields with thousands of $100 drones
>aircraft are either destroyed or can't take off because your runways have holes in them
Are these countries retarded?

>>63739560
could be worse
>be in Sonderkommando Hecht
>based in France in the worst possible airfeld
>your wonder waffles keep getting strafed by cheap ass shit boxes
>airfeld eventually so bombed out you have to divert to the nearest one
>arrive at friendly airfield only to get taken out by your own AAA who cant iFF your secret aircraft and radio procedures

>>63739560
>yfw you spend your military budget on 100$ drones and realize the enemy airfields are out of range

>>63739560
The payloads would have to be massive and drones would have to beable to avoid serious jamming from defenses

>>63736827 (OP)
Told you, /k/

>>63736827 (OP)
this is a 'solicitation for bid'. Its a nothing burger.

>>63736855
>Japan is currently internally calling it "Reppu,"
Died 1945, born again 2025

>>63737589
seeing how indians epically failed at making a light fighter (The Tejas) I wonder just how disastrous this will be. They should just stop skipping up the civilization tech tree and go back down to research toilets before trying to do fighter jets.

>>63739385
>The caste system simply makes them incompatible with western society.
Great for being friends with Israel tho.

>>63740473
>>63740473
>They should just stop skipping up the civilization tech tree and go back down to research toilets before trying to do fighter jets.
This is key, but Indians have delusions of grandeur.

>>63739441
>We're calling it the diocan
Meaning?

>>63738829
>This program is fake, it exits only to pretend to acquire next-gen fighter jets.
Did they put Indian CEOs and managers in charge already?

>>63740558
>Meaning?
wind of God

>>63740567
>>63740558
> Dio cane ("God [is a] dog")

>>63740575

Just to illustrate about un-serious the GCAP program is: first phase funding is supposed to be 5.2b which is something like 12% of the the DEVELOPMENT cost ALONE — not a single jet produced — of the F-22 program. It’s made even worse by the fact that by simple nature of being a group effort by several companies and governments means it will be less efficient that the F-22 program. This program is nothing more than some light welfare payouts for aerospace contractors in exchange for these governments to claim they are being competitive. The sooner everyone here wakes up to reality the better off you’ll be.

>>63740803
> It's not 1990 anymore
yep

>>63740807
Elaborate

>>63739560
>spend trillions on buying 100 dollar quadcopters
>enemy spams your drones with $0.03 bullets
>drones are either destroyed or run out of power before reaching anything important because they have 15 minutes of battery life
Yeah, much better than those icky fighters.

>>63737401
https://www.investigate-europe.eu/posts/boeing-airbus-russia-sanctions-aircraft-parts-india-intermediaries
https://www.deccanherald.com/india/russia-built-secret-trade-route-with-india-to-acquire-critical-goods-for-its-war-in-ukraine-report-3176820

>>63736855
>brings back the Rapeu just in time for potential Nanking shenanigans
How do they expect to get away with this?

>>63745446
It's a stealth fighter, they wont see it coming.

>>63743217
Technology proliferates my dude. Spontaneously, even.

Bleeding edge plane cost 60 billion 35 years ago.
Modern program of lesser scope shouldn't cost half that to deliver twice the units.

>>63747989
If so, what if they're deliberately being slow because they don't want to invent everything themselves and actually want others to also invent stuff that they can then replicate or buy.

>>63736827 (OP)
>>63736940
>japs and bongs can no longer domestically manufacture anything.
Bongs, granted, but Japan is a major manufacturer still, particularly for industrial stuff. How else do you think they export so much despite having fuck all resources?
They are far better than any European nation in manufacturing outside of niche cases like Dutch lithography. The only countries that are close or better are USA, China, and South Korea.

>>63737225
>they didnt hate it during the rule
So why did they have rebellions and now celebrate their independence?
>and they dont hate it now
The why do they constantly act like they have an axe to grind? I don't think any post-colonial country hates its old masters as much as India does.
Yes, Indians prefer to be pragmatic, but you can behave discordantly with your feelings. I hated my old boss but was nothing but polite. Still wouldn't piss on him if he were on fire. It's like how the Chinese will happily vacation in Kyoto but would also cheer if they heard about Japan getting their shit pushed in in some fashion, or how a Russian can live relatively unbothered in Europe despite the deep levels of distrust going both ways. People can easily tamp down their uglier emotions when they feel like they are getting something better in return.

>>63736855

>Not sure what name Italy is using
Ravioli mortali

https://archive.is/pTbqW
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-05-23/europe-japan-fighter-jet-races-against-china-s-military-progress

>>63739385
Goddamn this is some genuinely wild shit. Literally reads like the database entry for some xeno race in mass effect or xenoblade x kek

>>63736855
>sentence line spacing after EVERY SINGLE SENTENCE
Crazy how illiterate you plebbit retards are.

>>63740558
>Great for being friends with Israel tho.
>Friends
The poos like Israel for a few reasons. First of all, it's because (like India) Israel used to be controlled by the bloody benchod Britishers but """kicked them out""". The second is, quite simply, because Israel makes Muslims worldwide foam at the mouth and Hindus are as butthurt at Islam in general as they are at the British and for similar reasons. Third, it's because there's a degree of military cooperation between the two countries. That's really about it, but it seems like more than it is because of Modi's Hindu strongman (lel) act and the pajeet equivalent of /ptg/-tier screamers in organized shilling operations.

For their part, Israelis have a decent trade and intelligence relationship with India but apart from that it's almost entirely just the standard international politeness. Aside from when a leader of one country is condemning an Islamic terror attack on the other, Israel is vaguely aware that India exists. The Wikipedia page for Israeli-Indian relations is so stained with jeet fingerprints that it's almost unreadable; standard, unremarkable stuff like scientists from one country attending a conference in the other is padded out to a full paragraph to give the impression that the two countries are tied at the hip.

>>63753208
I've been "reddit spacing" on 4chan since before reddit existed as a website.

It's just a stylistic holdover from text forums of the late '90s and early 2000s.

Also the reddit spacing meme itself was created to allow newfag to call people out for "reddit spacing" which let everyone else know THEY were the newfags.

Tldr; you're admitting you're a newfag by calling out "reddit spacing"

>>63753809
You look retarded because your post looks like shit when viewed on a computer monitor.
>Also the reddit spacing meme itself was created to allow newfag to call people out for "reddit spacing" which let everyone else know THEY were the newfags.
Funny copespiracy theory, there's also another very obvious way you marked yourself as a tourist but I'm not going to explain how

>>63753837
Cool starry bra my friend, you've convinced me I actually wasnt here 20 years ago and it was just a fever dream.

>>63753169
It's far, far, fer worse. He didn't even touch on the superstitions and human sacrifices.

>>63739496
>India…proposing
That article says they are begging for something, not that it is being offered to them.

>>63756193
Yeah that's a wishlist item India would do almost anything for, not something Japan has offered.

>>63736855
>GIGO
heh. Garbage In Garbage Out

>>63739523
PLEASE SAAR WE NEED ENGINE NO ENGINE NO FIGHTER OK?

>>63737630

烈風
嵐

Both involve wind, Timothy-kun. Arashi is a common word and reppū is literary, and naming your plane "storm" sounds lame. Tempests are also windy. As such, reppu is a great transliteration of the spirit of the word tempest, and follows a tradition of Japanese fighters receiving that name.

>>63736855
>Not sure what name Italy is using.
Unfortunately, just "Tempest"

>>63736827 (OP)
Why doesn't japan just buy stuff from the states, aren't they extremely buddy buddy with each other?

>>63758300
The US refused to license the technology.

>>63737589
India can't even manufacture their own rifle, wtf is this?

>>63758300
They tried in the early 2000s to get in on the F-22 production, but the US said no. Japan took that personally and have been working on R&D/prototype projects ever since.

>>63739560
Chicom cope will never not be funny

>>63736827 (OP)
lmao, they have clearly never had to work with Indians

>>63758300
1) They already do. What do you think the F-15 and F-35 are?
2) The US will almost certainly not offer their fifth gen to Japan. They tried to buy the F-22 and not only did they get refused, but congress went as far as making a bill to ban such a thing.
3) "buddy buddy" is a sanitized way of saying it. They're the subordinate. As one example, we control half the airspace over their capital. Their armed forces need to ask us for permission to use it, and commercial flights are banned from using it at all. SOFA members enjoy many rights Japanese don't have in their own country. It's not like we have a shadow government, but they have to make a lot of concessions to keep the alliance. They can kick us out, but then they will have to go it alone while the 500 lb gorilla of China stares them down.

>The joint Global Combat Air Programme (GCAP) established in 2022 is falling behind schedule due to a lack of urgency from Britain and Italy, which could push deployment beyond 2040, according to one of the sources.
anything is better than joint europoor programs, there have only been a few successful ones over the years

>>63762030
>Japan is the kid who seethes and completes the group project while Britain and Italy play on their cell phones under the desk

>>63762030
I guess it's hard for them to really care since they already have the f-35

>>63758300 >>63759488
>>63762017 >>63762030
F-22 export was banned in 1998 and had nothing to do with Japan and was more in response to Israel passing technology to China, including the IAI Lavi which was heavily derived from the F-16. It kickstarted China's modern aircraft program.

Japan's sixth-gen fighter program initially did involve the US, particularly Lockheed Martin, but Japan abandoned that route in favor of partnering with Italy and Britain, the latter having its own program. It was in response to US restrictions. I've made threads on this years ago:

https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/56168129/#q56168129
> The Defense Ministry in 2020 chose MHI as a core developer of the new jet, as well as Lockheed Martin Corp. of the United States for technical support.
> But the talks became tangled after Japan asked for a degree of freedom in terms of renovation and information disclosure because it wants to export the jets in the future. The United Sates showed reluctance, citing confidentiality in defense and security information. Ultimately, Japan switched to Britain as a partner to develop fighter jets. **
> The Japanese government said joint development by the three nations will reduce costs and help to broaden the market for exports.
> To expand its scope of acceptable exports to include the aircraft, the Japanese government is expected to revise the guidelines in the “Three Principles of Transfer of Defense Equipment and Technology.” Under current guidelines, finished products that can be exported are limited to “rescue, transport, vigilance, monitoring and minesweeping.”

Japan wanting to export the jet as widely possible is also why you're not going to see France, Germany and Sweden part of the program anytime soon. So, it would be very odd if somehow India got involved instead.

Not to mention, the report of Japan apparently inviting India directly contradicts reports from two months ago which claimed that India asked to join and Japan rejected it.

>>63736867
"Zero" is like, the second or third coolest plane name ever. Japan's naming game has fallen off since.

>>63762363
It was the American designation for it

>>63762322
This is re-writing history, there was never a time in their 6th gen program when they DECIDED on lockheed, even when they were in discussions with lockheed they were ALSO in discussions with the UK and others. It's not like MHI and Lockheed were married and suddenly they went with the UK and Italy out of left field.

>>63762481
Nope. The IJN called it the type 0 before the US did. They used their own type number designation system separate to the actual number (A6M).

>>63762481
The US designation was Zeke, Zero was after what the Japanese called it.

>>63736827 (OP)
Rather than work with Europe to make a Eurofiugter next gen the bongs end up transferring European tech to jeets.
That's whtat brexit was all about really, making jeets and the kremlin more comfy

>>63762773
The UK has not offered anything to the jeets.
Brexit hasn't helped Russia or India one bit. The UK led the charge in early 2022 while Germany and pals were trying to downplay the invasion threat.
Anyway, why does it bother you? Surely if they become weaker and interfere in Europe less, it would be a good thing for you guys.

>>63736827 (OP)
India can't even manufacture a working rifle and a proper modern tank, how are they supposed to create a next gen jet from scratch?
>Inb4 moon landing saar
They create none of the part themselves, theirs is just a kit rocket they bought from NASA and launched with American and European help.

>>63737589
They need to build a proper tank before they try a 6th gen fighter lol.

>>63739560
Most FPV drones don't have the range/speed to effect American airbases in the pacific. Why are chinks so bad at shilling?

>>63737743
>tech transfer of nuclear and space technologies can overcome that, and they basically became independent by begging and threatening to kill themselves.
lel the classic mleccha cope isnt it
what was it again amerimutts telling brits to get out of india otherwise they wont bail them out as they got ass fucked by the germans? isnt that what your subhuman boomer parents learned in school as cope meanwhile in reality the mlecchas in india were shitting their pants near the end of the world war as any day the indians would have enacted total whiteshit death, couldnt even put the literal japanese allied indian soldiers to trial and hang them out of fear the faggot brits lol
also which one is it? mlecchas dont want to give the big nuke stick to india and would go to massive lengths to stop thirdies from getting one? or they just give us one with le hecking white benevolence just because lmao
we built the nooks just as easily we land stuff on the moon, meanwhile its the western pet pakistan that had to steal technology from fucking netherlands or someshit to get nooks and north korea got it from them lmao

we own the brits and buckbreak them and every single new world subhuman mleccha out there the seethe is the proof, this month we showed the world how easily we can enact TMD as well blowing shit up right in the heart of pakistan so i can understand why the mleccha counternarrative is on overdrive
wont change the inevitable total mleccha death lol

>>63736827 (OP)
Have you seen who Boeing and LM are hiring? Burger 6th gen jets won't be any different is all I'm saying...

>>63770605
>idnian makes a post
>it's pure cope shit
get lost pajeet

>>63762541
>This is re-writing history
That isn't me re-writing shit. They're direct quotes from Asahi and Nikkei shimbun.

https://archive.is/https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14771484
> The Defense Ministry in 2020 chose MHI as a core developer of the new jet, as well as Lockheed Martin Corp. of the United States for technical support.
> But the talks became tangled after Japan asked for a degree of freedom in terms of renovation and information disclosure because it wants to export the jets in the future.
> The United Sates showed reluctance, citing confidentiality in defense and security information.
> Ultimately, Japan switched to Britain as a partner to develop fighter jets.
> The Japanese government said joint development by the three nations will reduce costs and help to broaden the market for exports.

https://archive.is/https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-relations/Japan-nears-deal-to-develop-next-generation-fighter-with-U.K.-Italy
> Japan has entered the final stages of talks with the U.K. and Italy to jointly develop and build a next-generation fighter jet, marking a turning point as Japan looks beyond the U.S. for defense cooperation.
> This will be the first time that Japan partners with Europe to develop a jet fighter.
> The new plane is slated to be a successor to the Mitsubishi F-2, which was jointly developed with Lockheed Martin.
> Japan's Ministry of Defense initially planned to once again collaborate with the U.S. company, which is currently developing the next-generation F-35 fighter. However, Lockheed's refusal to share confidential technological information raised concerns about servicing aircraft domestically after deployment.
> The U.K., meanwhile, had announced plans to introduce its Tempest sixth-generation fighter by 2035. With its development schedule overlapping with Japan's, and Lockheed's unwillingness to share information, that provided ample incentive for Japan to launch its first defense collaboration with Europe.

>>63764875
There's speculation a lot of India's space accomplishments are fake. They make claims where they don't release footage.

>>63737879
>bulgarianmilitary.com
>believing those retards about anything
into the trash it goes

>>63762322
>Japan [alongside Britain and Italy] wanting to export the jet as widely possible is also why you're not going to see France, Germany and Sweden part of the program anytime soon.

>>63783473
Kek. I missed that. What a retard.

>>63785293
Who is?

>>63786853
The guy saying that exporting plans would turn off the Swedes and French. Japan still won't export any lethal tech. Sweden and France will sell theirs to anybody whose check clears, within reason.

>>63786927
That's bullshit. Sweden has extensively rejected arms sales to many countries over human rights concerns. France has strategic interests and is also allied with Greece and India. France is not going to sell arms to countries that run contrary to its interests.

Take Turkey for example. Italy wanted to sell it SAMP/T missiles, but France rejected it. France has an arms embargo on Turkey. UK, Spain and Italy have wanted to sell the Eurofighter Typhoon to Turkey for years, but Germany had rejected it for years and is still delaying it going through. France wouldn't if it was also part of EF. Are you aware there's also rumblings about France abandoning the FCAS program like it did the Eurofighter program?

You can bet your ass if Azerbaijan, Pakistan or Libya wanted to buy the jet, France and Germany wouldn't sell it. Italy and Britain are both stakeholders in Azerbaijan's energy sector. Both have arms deals with Turkey and growing strategic ties. France would never sell the jet to Turkey or Azerbaijan. Armenia and Greece both have massive influence in France. Their Senate even voted to recognize Artsakh as an independent state. You're clearly clueless about geopolitical dynamics.

>>63786977
>>63786927
>Japan still won't export any lethal tech.
The GCAP isn't going to be ready tomorrow. It'll take several years, perhaps even a few decades. The presumption is that Japan's laws will have changed by then. They've been slowly relaxing their defense export laws over the past few years.

>France will sell theirs to anybody whose check clears, within reason.
France sold Mirage fighter jets to Pakistan in the late-1960s and in the mid-1990s but stopped selling it parts and repairs. Pakistan had to scrape together Mirage units from other countries, including to cannibalize for parts. France has an arms embargo on Pakistan, and vote on India's side at the UN and everywhere else.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_ROSE
https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/france-president-emmanuel-macron-backs-india-bid-permanent-seat-united-nations-security-council-2606856-2024-09-26

It's still fucking retarded to say that UK, Italy, and Japan sell to everyone while France and Sweden are these moral paragons who ensure their weapons only go toward the most clean of states

>>63787732
>It's still fucking retarded to say that UK, Italy, and Japan sell to everyone
Literally nobody said that.

>>63787732
>while France and Sweden are these moral paragons who ensure their weapons only go toward the most clean of states
If Algeria wanted to buy the fighter jets, France would reject it too.

France has its set of customers that it will and won't sell to, and Britain has a different set of customers it will and won't sell to. Britain, Japan and Italy have their own geopolitical interests, and they're distinct from France, Sweden and Germany's. Each state has its own distinct relationships and priorities based on domestic and international politics.

>>63753809
Fuck off

>>63737589
>he doesn't know

>>63762017
>Their armed forces need to ask us for permission to use it
And what if they would not? Will Donald throw a tantrum?

>>63770605
This is the most retarded post I've ever seen, including on /pol/. I'm sorry about your failed state and that your best and brightest leave immediately the moment they can to become doctors in the west, but you're a nation of a billion people with a 4000-year civilization that Britain completely ruled over just last century and that was conquered by a tea shipping concern. Britain could still probably solo you into submission in a conventional war on your own teritory and would annihilate you in a nuclear one. The best things you ever gave the world are tea (which is a plant that happened to grow and be cultivated there) and Buddhism, which was a reaction to your vile, anti-scientific, unintellectual, and repressive caste system, and Buddhism was unfortunately not cultivated there but rejected by your people while embraced by your East Asian neighbors, who all benefitted from it and still do to this day.

I hold no animus against you, but claiming that you are strong or superior on the internet does nothing to improve your systemic problems or elevate your largely destitute populace.

If you took the example of your neighbor China, you would elevate your people out of serfdom in order to become a great power instead of insisting that your ancestry detetermines your social class and that those who have nothing deserve no better than they get, and therefore the standard of living never improves.

>>63772531
this is rape pls delete

>>63740803
>be f-22
>lose to eurofighter
lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQTVb5QMlcg

>>63762322
>Not to mention, the report of Japan apparently inviting India directly contradicts reports from two months ago which claimed that India asked to join and Japan rejected it.
India claims a lot of stuff for no reason

>>63739560
Retarded insect.

>>63736827 (OP)
>completely invisible to radar
>but smells like shit from miles away

>>63772531
two little islands who like tea and being polite friends :>

>>63749106
>Bongs, granted
Aviation industry in the UK is alive and well wtf are you talking about

>>63737418
I don't get that meme

>>63788670
Tea is Chinese, son.

>>63805673
You mean the scraps of the aviation industry still kicking.

The UK makes engines and a few other things like ejector seats and similar aviation systems, but they don't produce entire modern airplanes in the UK anymore.

>>63736827 (OP)
Anybody recognize these goggles? Was watching nuke test vids and got to a Tsar Bomba vid via Reuters...

>>63801952
https://idrw.org/india-eyes-role-in-gcap-6th-fighter-jet-program-amid-japans-caution/
https://idrw.org/iaf-denies-reports-of-joining-global-combat-air-programme-reaffirms-commitment-to-amca/

Seems like Indians are pushing disinfo to make up for their embarrassment.

>>63736827 (OP)

>>63736827 (OP)