LYING ABOUT MEDICAL HISTORY: GOOD (YMMV)
LYING ABOUT CRIMINAL HISTORY: BAD

>Resources:
>Before you ask a question, check the FAQ
pastebin.com/Rx0nDuga

>Free ASVAB Practice Tests
www.asvabpracticetests.com/

>Fort Jackson Army Basic Training Guide (Nov. 2020)
pastebin.com/yg972vRE (Short version)
pastebin.com/53tsDj90 (40 page version)

>Special Forces Fitness Guide
SWCS SFAS guide
https://www.goarmysof.army.mil/Portals/100/Documents/USAJFKSWCS%20SF%20Prep%20Manual.pdf?ver=b5Y4cCheXzm4z44sO0JVtg%3D%3D
Stew Smith Fitness
https://www.stewsmith.com/linkpages/sfart.htm#:~:text=PT%3A%20Every%20other%20day.,of%2040%20to%2050%20reps)

>www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/index.php
For all Army SF info.

>www.airwarriors.com/community/
Naval Aviator forum with info on Navy OCS

>bogidope.com/civilian-to-guard-or-reserve/the-ultimate-military-pilot-career-path-part-1/
Airforce Pilot guide - just do AFROTC, political science major, 4.0 with athletics is auto-acceptance

>Should I go Navy Enlisted Nuke?
No, you'll get cancer and a prolapsed asshole. http://i.imgur.com/FZ0Q9q4.png
tl;dr: Two year long school with suicidal furries as your co-workers

>Info on sf86
www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/sf86.pdf

>How to get way overqualified physically for BMT/BCT when starting from nothing
pastebin.com/yGzadpNZ

>How can I get more college credits while I'm in without signing up for classes
CLEP/DSST information:
dantes.doded.mil/EducationPrograms/get-credit/creditexam.html

>What is MHS GENESIS?
www.health.mil/Military-Health-Topics/MHS-Transformation/MHS-GENESIS
calmed.tricare.mil/Getting-Care/MHS-GENESIS-Patient-Portal

>Do you go to Airborne before RASP with an option 40 contract?
No, stop asking.

>>63780236 (OP)
Get a jump on SI inventories by doing them now.

what the hell is going on in this image?

>>63780385
The force management process, obviously

>>63780442
redpill me on DOTLPF

>guy with a fat wife is a swinger
Why are they all like this? Which posts have the highest concentration of normal people?

>>63780466
what the fuck are you talking about?

Hey if the anon that was looking for info on health info sharing is still around, here's the infographic I mentioned. It doesn't cover everything and it's kinda old but it's a good start. Sorry for the delay, I got busy with work

>>63780236 (OP)
Told army recruiter I have hypertension, how fucked am I? Specially if I want to get into infantry?

My little retard is only 16 but I can smell the happening coming in the horizon. Would buying him a drone and making him practice with it once a week help his chances to be a drone operator instead of cannon fodder in the event of a draft?

>>63781631
Why is your kid such a loser that the us military is his only option? nice fail for 18 years straight.

>>63781631
>>63782084
What blew up?

Remember that Moscow oblast pays the highest sign-up bonuses, and the chances of frontline combat deployment from there is even under 50%!

>>63781631
Being good at operating a drone doesnt mean anything. In the event of a draft it's needs of the military. If he signs up before being drafted, he can pick. Even still, his asvab scores dictate what jobs are available to him.

>draft
Or just ignore the draft notice and wait for the pardon from the president following the war. It looks good on pr when they pardon people from an unpopular conflict.

>>63782312
What's the best branch of the Russian military to join?

>>63782848
You'll be meatwaved either way, so it really doesnt matter lmao

>>63782889
I'm thinking Navy.

>>63782893
155th is on its 12th ish reconstitution so theyll need you

>>63782900
Any advice? I just want to learn some new skills and get set up for success once I get out.

>>63782929
Grow up. This is a thread for discussing military enlistment, not your deranged gay sex fantasies.

>>63782997
You wouldn't be talking about mercing for the russians if you weren't a raging homosexual rooster.

>>63783026
Like I said, grow up. Either talk about military enlistment or go shit up another thread.

>>63783044
Did I entertain your slide shit in a manner not to your liking? So sad. Take your own advice and fuck off lolcow.

Okay, now that the children have offered their two cents, can we discuss which branch of the Russian military is the best to join?

What are some MOS fields in the Marine Corps that filter out retards? 28XX seems somewhat promising. 26XX seems like it would, but, it also seems like a potent autism magnet.

>>63783136
None. The Marine Corps is the retard branch.

>>63783101
He's just upset because he had to ban evade (again). His schizometer rises the more mod attention he gets.

any words of encouragement for someone about to enlist in the Syrian Army?

>>63783317
Still upset?

>Only has daughters
Isn't this a sign of excess exposure to radar? All of the pilots and electronics technicians have daughters too.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/06/04/police-search-army-veteran-father-of-3-dead-girls-washington-state.html

>>63784730
>The bodies of all three girls were found about 75 to 100 yards away down an embankment, and investigators noted zip ties and plastic bags were scattered throughout the area. Court documents state the girls’ wrists were zip-tied, or appeared to have been zip-tied, and each had a bag over their head. It appeared the girls had been suffocated.

>>63784743
least psychotic US Army soldier

>>63784730
No, the womb is hostile to men. The reason some people are predisposed to daughters is partly genetics and partly environmental. See Trivers-willard hypothesis

>>63784730
Did he kill his daughters because he joined the military?

Only good dependent is a dead one. Fuck em.
Also why does every suit sold in the MCX make me look poor?

>resident troll is a sam Hyde fan
Why are all of your idols pedophiles?

bros I separated two years ago and I still haven't gotten over what a waste of my time (Air Force) BMT was. Will it ever stop pissing me off?

>>63785909
Buy a gun and pay a particular demographic a visit

>>63785736
Nobody mentioned Sam Hyde

>>63784891
We were talking about him at work today. Apparently there's a bounty on the guy.
>>63785171
The military can fuck people up sometimes, but I don't think that's what happened here.

The Golden Path (20 ASVAB edition):
>Join Army
>MOS: Whatever the recruiter managed to get you a waiver for
>After first contract, transfer to National Guard/Reserve (which you will drool your way through until retirement)
>Don't forget to cry to the VA for 100% disability!
>Pay someone literate to whip up a resume for you
>Get a job at Home Depot
>Keep applying to your local Costco. Be willing to work as chief cart wrangler.
>Use your Army NCO experience to work your way up to department manager
Congratulations. You've made it.

92gfag here. This is how you army the right way. Guy i worked with sent me this yesterday. He got out by just going to BH every day and saying how the army is driving him bananas. He got separated on a medboard, got to keep his GI bill, and got 90%. I think he only had to endure the bullshit for a little over 2 years out of a 4 year stint.

>>63781631
The safest place to be in the event of a draft is already in the military in a good job. When the draft kicks off, they’re not gonna be picking contracting and administration. It’s gonna be infantry or some shit.

>>63785909
>bros I separated two years ago and I still haven't gotten over what a waste of my time (Air Force) BMT was. Will it ever stop pissing me off?
Depends. Did you actually finish your 4-6 year contract? Or did you get general discharged under 12 months in, so you think 8 weeks in Texas is equivalent to a career in the Air Force.

Engineer here. Trying to commission and get out after my initial contract.

Was looking at Air Force OTS, but not only is it picky as fuck, but apparently the pipeline is so backed up that candidates are waiting over a year to go to OTS even after being selected. That’s like 1/4th of a contract, so not time efficient for someone like me trying to get out after 4 anyways.

I’ve given up on doing engineering or anything cool in the military as an officer because all the good jobs are piled with candidates, have 6+ year initial commitments, or makes people wait 2 years before they get their first paycheck.

So what’s a stupid easy officer job (in any branch) where I’ll ship quick, won’t work much, and hopefully be stationed at a base that doesn’t suck? I’m open to any branch, even Coast Guard.

>>63787230
I did four years, got an honorable discharge. I don't know anyone who feels the same bitterness toward BMT as I do.

>>63787406
Yeah, you’re a weirdo buddy. You spent 3.8% of your Air Force career in BMT. Who cares?

>>63787186
How has your life been post army 92g senpai? Did you make peace with your experience?

after 10 fucking months in this stupid shithole im finally graduating usmc boot camp tomorrow

>why have you been in boot camp for a year
my left femur and left clavicle decided to take a vacation to snap city during the crucible. i fell 30 feet off an obstacle and landed weird
>mos
no idea. im open contract and stuck in limbo due to my extended stay in boot. my original senior drill instructor from the time i was injured last year has been talking with "monitors" (whatever that is) for several job fields on my behalf. ill find out more whenever i show up to mct in a couple weeks
>asvab
93
>why'd you join the marines
family tradition. basically whole family is military except my sisters

ama. ill respond maybe later today or more likely tomorrow evening. i live in west az so its a really short trip home maybe couple hour drive at most

>>63787584
Fuck yeah, congrats anon!
>asvab 93
They're gonna put you with the better crayons, what's jimmy neutron doing with the marines anyways?

>>63787186
based welfare queen

>>63787584
Well, the bright side is that you’re already a year into your contract despite not doing shit. I wouldn’t have picked Marines open-contract with a fucking 93 AFQT lol.

Good luck, anon. I hope you get a nice job, but even if you don’t, you’ll be done in like 3 years anyways.

>>63787766
How is a 10 even possible?

>>63787776
Statistically speaking it is possible but I like to think it's ESLs just picking random answers, I refuse to believe anyone with a 10 is functional enough to make it to meps

>>63780236 (OP)
I'm in the process of applying for OCS for the Navy and I went to MEPS about two weeks ago. The doctor said I needed a waiver but he said it would be no big deal and that I would know by the end of the day. After a week of nothing I contacted my recruiter and he said he hasn't gotten anything from MEPS yet. Its been another week and he still hasn't said anything. Is it normal for it to take this long?

>>63787584
My top 3 guesses for your MOS:
>whatever Avionics is
>2841
>0844
But I could be wrong.
Semper Fi.

>>63789096
Send his ass to DLI! YUH!!

>>63785909
I was pretty disappointed with AF BMT. That shit is legitimately way to soft. Didn't even feel like I earned the title of "Airmen" because so many of the standards had been relaxed and the overall feel of basic training across the board being neutered these days. Everyone asks how was BMT and I just tell them I learned how to fold my clothes very well and thats about it.

>>63789782
>way to soft
I thought airfags were supposed to be smart.

Recruiter is saying no 35N or 17C available until October because they made their recruiting mission for the year, and that there will likely not be any duty station of choice for either MOS. What do? Not homeless or anything but would prefer to ship before the year is out

>>63790480
Tell him you'll go to the Air Force or Navy for their equivalents if he can't get you either MOS. If he's being legit then he'll grudgingly understand and if he's bullshitting he'll try to swing a hotline request just so he can keep you as one of his recruits instead of losing you to another branch.

Redpill me on 35L

>>63790480
Tell the recruiter you're willing to compromise for 88M if he buys you Wendy's

>>63790700
Best he can do is 13B and White Castle.

>>63790610
Lots and lots of writing about asinine shit

>>63787271

What is your GPA/degree. Some other things to note is that the CG will probably be your best option (they have a direct commission Engineering program that has you start O3) and has some of the best bases of any branch (Navy only topping it). CG will have you work the most by far though. Also with an engineering degree you can pretty easily apply for aviation in Navy/CG if you're looking towards that more so then an engineering officer.

How useful is a 4.0GPA cybersec degree from an online school when it comes to commissioning?

>>63790933
>online school
Worthless as the paper it's on. Now if you graduated from say Tennessee, that would get you picked up straightway.

>>63790933
As long as your online school is accredited it doesn't really matter, it will be accepted

>>63780236 (OP)
CLEP/DSST link no longer works. Current version:

https://www.dantes.mil/Education-Programs/Get-College-Credit-for-What-You-Know/

Whoever makes the next thread, please update.

>>63790916
>What is your GPA/degree.
Mechanical engineering. 3.4. Just a Bachelors.
>Some other things to note is that the CG will probably be your best option (they have a direct commission Engineering program that has you start O3)
Interesting. I’ve never heard of this. That’s pretty wild of true.
>and has some of the best bases of any branch (Navy only topping it).
Such as? I don’t know anything about Coasty bases.
>CG will have you work the most by far though.
Really? Can you elaborate?
>Also with an engineering degree you can pretty easily apply for aviation in Navy/CG if you're looking towards that more so then an engineering officer.
I like aviation, but it usually comes with like a 10-12 year service commitment, and I just don’t think I want to do that.

>>63791124
>Worthless as the paper it's on. Now if you graduated from say Tennessee, that would get you picked up straightway.
Not true. As long as it’s accredited, the military doesn’t really give a fuck where your degree comes from (except Ivies and shit ig). In fact, they’re probably the only institution that doesn’t care. I’ve met officers from fucking Liberty University.

>>63791124
>>63791525
It's UMGC

>>63791525
I know that picture is suposed to make people seethe, but an E3 untermensch losing NVGs needs to be thrown into a well.

An officer getting charged with sex crimes on his spare time is still a valuable asset whose replacement can't be trained up with 5 months, where as an enlisted yahoo is easy to recreate.

>>63791955
the E3 will work the latrine until the lesson is learned
the officer will help the E3 until he can manage his libido

both are still available and ready to be deployed, both will pay the dime for their crimes.

Anyone served in Belgian Reserve? I'm here to do my bachelor and you can enlist as long as you European and looks like a fun activity

>>63787766
I'd hope someone with a 93 wasn't retarded enough to go open contract, but he did go Marines. It's either a genuine tard that can do well on tests or the original mos was lost due to medhold.

Happy D-Day, gentlemen

>>63792855
My wife's grandfather was an Italian immigrant who was in one of the later waves on D-Day, and he got hit by shrapnel and lost his kidney and was sure he was going to die all alone there in that French church. For the rest of his life, he carried that fear of dying alone with him, and by all accounts was an angry, miserable man until the day he died (alone). Contrast that with her father's father, who was also an Italian immigrant, but he was joined the Army in '39 and was stationed at Pearl Harbor during the attack. He was in for the remainder of the war, eventually earning a Silver Star for heroic actions at Luzon. He didn't have any PTSD, and was a kind, jovial, fun-loving man until the day he died. He also worked for the Chicago mob and beat up gamblers who owed money, eventually running his own racket.

>>63792855
>>63792969
Oh, I forgot my point: joining the military is great if you want to end up a violent criminal or a broken shell of a man.

>>63792974
So which branch are you joining?

>>63793323
None, ever.

>>63793485
First time in the Military Enlistment General?

If im not retarded should i enlist in the army and try to get into mil intel or try the airforce?

>>63793492
Nope.

>>63793616
Glad to see a continued interest even you say you aren't joining

>>63793760
I'm here to discuss why it's a bad idea to enlist.

>>63793774
>like i am every day, because i am a sad useless person

>>63793774
Based on personal experience?

>>63792974
lol based

>>63793584
>If im not retarded should i enlist in the army and try to get into mil intel or try the airforce?
Always try AF first and work from there.

>>63791515
Firstly, let me discuss aviation. On the Navy side you may actually qualify for Immediate Select (i.e. your application is automatically accepted without the need of the "board" to go through and scrutinize your package) for SNA (student naval aviator) if you meet the following criteria: https://www.mynavyhr.navy.mil/Portals/55/Career/OCM/PA-106_OCS_Pilot_and_NFO_Mar-2025.pdf?ver=4Yhw9q19N6qMUTOE6obCoA%3D%3D
(linked is the PDF file that gives the break down of what qualifies you for I-select. In your case, the main points you'd have to hit are getting a good score on the ATSB+OAR--the "asvab" for officers plus the aviation portion--and not having medical waivers). This comes with a 6 year commitment.

Secondly, regarding the direct commission engineering officer for CG, the information is as follows: https://www.gocoastguard.com/get-started/eligibility-requirements?program=c02d4fce-9b52-4143-89d7-28e5d4205a04#reqs (just click the engineering officer box if that doesn't automatically do it for you). DCE's are sent to specialize in one of the three options--Naval Engineering, Civil, or Tech--and that specialty will be assigned to you based on what the CG will think you excel at (in your case its a 70/30 split leaning Naval but with a chance at Civil). I see you qualifying for this as well unless you have any major medical/tattoo issues. The reason why you'll work very hard as a DCE is that you WILL be operating as a project manager (as previously mentioned you will probably be a naval engineer) for your first 2 billets and you WILL be directing contractors--I just classify this as "more work" since many of these decisions will be coming from yourself as the sole leader/manager unlike being a junior aviator where many of the decisions are made for you (but obviously you'll still need to fly a plane). This is also a 6 year commitment IIRC.

>>63791515
>>63795046
Regarding bases, I (assuming you'll be either an Aviator or Engineer in the Navy/CG respectively) only put Navy/CG as the top of the list since you'll 100% be on a coast line instead of the myriad of dogshit middle America Army/Marine purgatory zones.
YMMV on which coastal port you get but they're all going to be better then Fort Hood so count your lucky stars.

>>63793778
>>63793785
cope

>>63795817
>seething at 1 in the morning

Reminder, if you go to the exchange to power pose instead of just buying what you need and leaving you are officially gay.

>>63796267
>seething at 5:49 in the morning
lmao this nigga was alone on a Friday night and went to be early, LOSER!

For anons that were stuck in high-crime units, what was your daily routine? It wasn't in your face all the time, right?

No one was getting fucked in broad daylight or selling fentanyl in the middle of the parking lot were they?

>>63797185
Go to Ft. Hood and report back.

>>63796490

Wow, those tattoos are fucking stupid

>>63797185
if you just do your job you wont actually see anything. you have to go looking for it and have to actively hang out off duty.

Finished with prototype in a month, and it’s never been so over. Navy nuke is hell. Anything I can do bros before I man overboard?

>>63797363
grab a few guys and take them overboard with you

Question: if the military was so great, why is it pandering and barely making quota because its taking in 30+ year olds. Why are young guys not joining anymore? Why is everyone so stoked to get out? Doesn't sound that great to me.

>>63797438
It's not great unless you get out after 4 with a 100% VA rating and get paid to do nothing for the rest of your life.

>>63797185
I've exclusively been at "high crime" locations. Truthfully, you could never tell it was happening. It gets brought up, your unit pretends to care about the soldiers for a day, then it just goes back to normal. Literally nothing changes.

>ft hood (cavazos) was literally the best duty station of my time in.

>>63797449
>rest of your life.
Until the VA takes your rating because you didnt keep making appointments to "try" and get better.

>>63797464
better than getting a job lol. the military is the perfect choice if you're a lazy fuckup loser retard who wants to be a welfare queen.

>>63797470
>better than getting a job
For how long? Because again, the va will be quick to reduce/remove your rating for the slightest foul up.

>>63797481
Look man, I'm no fan of the military, but it is objectively a great way to scam the government out of money.

>>63796975
Still upset?

>>63797464
>>63797481
Did they do that to you and is that why you are raging on a weekend instead of spending time with friends and family?

>>63797615
What are you doing here?

>>63797619
Eating lunch and browsing 4chan on my phone.

>>63797621
Why aren't you talking to whomever you're eating lunch with?

>>63797623
Because I am eating by myself. Does my presence perturb you?

>>63797632
Why are you alone? Where's your wife?

>>63797636
I'm at work. Crazy concept for you, I wager

>>63797644
>has to work on a Saturday
lmao

>>63797645
I like to put in overtime, especially when my main responsibility is banging your mom.

>>63797648
>he gets paid an hourly wage and isn't a salaried exempt employee
NGMI

>>63797658
Employee? Buddy, this is a thread for those in or those looking to get into the military. You must've gotten lost on your way to /chug/. Feel free to spend your weekend there, as I'm sure you have nothing but time to burn

>>63797669
>RPing as someone in the military online
lmao

>>63797209
I can't imagine how bad it is in Fort Hood and Lackland for recruits during summer. I was in Lackland last summer for a meeting and I nearly fried in my jeans. Thing is, I am in East Texas where it's humid. Even though San Antonio is dry and very noticeable, it still is just hell.

>>63797764
You sound fat

>>63797764
Only steers and queers come from Texas.

>>63797782
/fit/ter than you, son. I'd bet some serious coin on that!
>>63797796
LOL always a classic

>>63797819
I didn't know they stacked shit that high!

>>63797823
You trying to squeeze an inch in on me somewhere, huh?!

>>63797836
FMJ is free on youtube right now btw.

>>63797712
>he works overtime to get paid more
>he is trying to say he's in the military
Neverserved detected.

>>63797929
lmao I didn't even think about that, he's obviously lying about something

>>63797933
He's probably that texas guardsman who picked up an extra weeked for a few hundred more dollars.
>isnt in the real military because of how bad it is
>tries to get people to join the military

>>63797934
I'm pretty sure he's actually in the State Guard, not even the National Guard lmao

Why are vets so tiresome? What can one do to not become one of them?
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/06/06/you-deserve-better-veterans-rally-national-mall-against-trump-cuts.html

>>63797934
I thought he was debunked already?

>>63798052
Who got debunked? There were 3 main meg shills.

>guardfag
>glowie
>neverserved

>>63798204
Can I get some lore on the glowie?

>>63797438
Ragebait aside, the Army hit it’s quota like 6 months early, which never fucking happens.

We’re in a recession.

>>63798985
>young Americans
>young

>>63798985
AF also hits quota, and Navy hit their quota with some extra last year. Recession-memeing aside, I’m starting to really believe the main driver of military recruitment is the fact it’s a republican president. Having an (R) in office always seems to double the recruitment numbers of any given year.

>>63795046
>Firstly, let me discuss aviation. On the Navy side you may actually qualify for Immediate Select (i.e. your application is automatically accepted without the need of the "board" to go through and scrutinize your package) for SNA (student naval aviator) if you meet the following criteria:
Interesting. I think jt’s so funny how straightforward the commissioning process is for every branch except the Air Force.
>(linked is the PDF file that gives the break down of what qualifies you for I-select. In your case, the main points you'd have to hit are getting a good score on the ATSB+OAR--the "asvab" for officers plus the aviation portion--and not having medical waivers).
Both very doable for me ngl. No medical issues, and I can do well on standardized tests.
>This comes with a 6 year commitment.
Utterly insane if true. No other branch will let trained pilots leave so quickly.

>The reason why you'll work very hard as a DCE is that you WILL be operating as a project manager (as previously mentioned you will probably be a naval engineer) for your first 2 billets and you WILL be directing contractors--I just classify this as "more work" since many of these decisions will be coming from yourself as the sole leader/manager unlike being a junior aviator where many of the decisions are made for you (but obviously you'll still need to fly a plane).
This just sounds like engineering anywhere.
>This is also a 6 year commitment IIRC.
6 years for a line officer is actually kinda long but not terrible.

Also, agreed on coastal bases. Generally better.

>>63799003
>Recession-memeing aside, I’m starting to really believe the main driver of military recruitment is the fact it’s a republican president. Having an (R) in office always seems to double the recruitment numbers of any given year.
Military recruitment was going crazy in 2008-2011 (Obama years) cuz the job market was piss.

>>63798985
Ok but what do I do with all of my memes about recrooters not hitting quota? You can't seriously believe /meg/ won

Anyone out there have any intel on Coast Guard OCS?
How difficult, retention rate, etc....

>>63799520
If you're speaking only about OCS difficulty (the actual event, not the process of getting into CG OCS) then your answer is that it is easier the CG boot camp physically but you'll be expected to be more scrutinized based on how those around/"under" you are performing (as the entire idea is that you are training to be a leader and what makes your group look good is more important then how good you make yourself). Very few people are dropped (medical issues being the chief reason) as the instructors there are TRYING to help you pass unlike bootcamp where a lot of the early weeks are "weeding" time.

Hahaha fuck you mother fuckers I'm finally free. I finally fucking ETS'd from this bullshit yesterday hahaha

>>63799520
Hey fellow CG enthusiast
I am on round 3 trying to get in. my recruiter told me that my last officer panel graded me "superb". Also, you can recycle panel results if you are happy with their notes. I did that last round. Apparently, the average to get in is between 3-5 rounds. FFS. It has now been 13 months total since I reached out.
>>63799582
Good info anon. What I am worried about is the 450m swim test. Everything else they require is typical and do-able. That 450 though....damn. I strongly am considering putting in a packet for Navy OCS because it's not DHS, you can be sneaky and have 2 packets at the same time. IF the CG just strings me along

>>63798985
Not just recession. Kids just don't have any hope for the future short term so they might as well join the army. If things get better in a few years they have the GI bill to get a degree. Right now there's no sense of direction for the future.

Why the actual fuck did I choose cav scout. The fuck is wrong with me? Im 85 on ASVAB and my GTs are 150

What the fuck possessed me to be retarded, smaller infantry as a job.

>>63799861
Cope

Occasional reminder that if you're not taking advantage of tuition assistance (sorry Navy!) and Pell Grants, you're saying no to free money.

>>63800276
>Not just recession.
It is.
>Kids just don't have any hope for the future short term so they might as well join the army.
Aka, the job market / housing market aka the recession. Young men are now saving up money to rent apartments like it’s a fucking down payment on a house. You can’t even move out unless you have a decent job or 4 roommates anymore. Joining the Army now is (ironically) the best way to get pussy fresh out of highschool if you don’t want to have car sex. At least you’re out from under your parents’ roof and can try to sneak bitches on base.
>If things get better in a few years they have the GI bill to get a degree. Right now there's no sense of direction for the future.
It’s the same as it’s always been except an apartment costs an entire monthly paycheck at McDonald’s, undergrad college is a 6 figure product, and the military is now somehow the best paying gig for an 18 year old retard.

>>63801226
Given the state of the current economy, could you provide better options for the average 18 year old if they can't afford to supplement the cost of college if they dont have a full ride scholarship?

>>63801380
>Given the state of the current economy, could you provide better options for the average 18 year old if they can't afford to supplement the cost of college if they dont have a full ride scholarship?
Other than the military? No. Even community college costs thousands anymore. I really don’t have an answer for young people now.

The college I graduated from (state flagship uni) costs $35k a year out-of-state + living expenses. So roughly $60k. That’s $240k for an undergrad. In-state is still like $15k, so like $30k with living expenses. So $120k for an undergrad.

I got no advice. I’m military. My shit was free.

>>63801226
Its the SSG that's getting fucked on the right, isn't it?

>>63801440
All by design. Cheap college would mean lower enlistment rates.

I want to be an air force drone operator (1U0X1, not officer/pilot). I'm almost 30 with a family and a BA. I'd rather not fuck up my body too much more, especially my knees, since I've got some previous injuries. And I'm hoping too avoid long training. It seems it's only about two months, including basic.
Is it competitive these days? Feasible with national guard? I'm guessing they're going to rapidly scale up drone operators.

>>63801563
>I want to be an air force drone operator (1U0X1, not officer/pilot).
Isn’t that just a sensor operator?
>I'm almost 30 with a family and a BA.
I will say that drone operator is one of the easier jobs to commission into in the Air Force. It’s considered a rated job, and it’s not super desired.
>I'd rather not fuck up my body too much more, especially my knees, since I've got some previous injuries.
Can you run 2mi without hurting yourself?
>And I'm hoping too avoid long training. It seems it's only about two months, including basic.
Basic is 2 months in itself. Tech school isn’t really physically intensive but you have to pass your PT tests.
>Is it competitive these days?
Enlistment typically isn’t competitive. You either qualify or you don’t.
>Feasible with national guard?
Do you want a job or a side gig? The guard has full-time positions, but they’re not guaranteed . Will you be able to feed your family if you don’t get an AGR spot? >I'm guessing they're going to rapidly scale up drone operators.
I dunno. It’s already big career field, but it is the future. I don’t know if they’re up scaling the drone field at this exact moment. All that matters is what the Air Force is doing in the present fiscal year.

>>63801380
college is kind of retarded now anyway, the past 2 jobs i have had required a bachelors degree but i dont have one

>>63801440
>The college I graduated from (state flagship uni)
Do you have advice on getting into a good grad school (thinking MBA but still debating it) if I fucked up high school, did nothing noteworthy in the military, got a bachelor's and master's from WGU, and am getting rekt by GMAT math practice questions?

>>63801563
>I'm guessing they're going to rapidly scale up drone operators.
It seems that way, yeah. Not sure about the rest of your questions though.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/06/unleashing-american-drone-dominance

Can someone clarify the age limit for Marine Corps OCS candidates? I’m finding conflicting information online and I really want to have my homework done before I contact a recruiter.

>>63801600
>>63801623
>Isn’t that just a sensor operator?
I've heard they'll be the air force equivalent to FPV pilots in Ukraine. I know the army is trying to adapt by making up some new recon companies, but it's obviously going to be insufficient to meet demand.

I was hoping to give my family some extra income, and I know guys in the local guard who can make a living from it, and hopefully not deploy.
On the other hand, I was living in China, and I definitely think a war is possible in the next year or two. I have seen some serious warning signs. Things I didn't even see in the news.
I figure, pick a job while I'm ahead.

>>63801612
What industry?

>>63801623
>Do you have advice on getting into a good grad school (thinking MBA but still debating it)
Do you have better options for a grad degree? An MBA is more of a networking thing or checking a box if you already have a career.
>I fucked up high school,
Irrelevant .
>did nothing noteworthy in the military
Colleges usually don’t care anyways
>got a bachelor's and master's from WGU,
Meme degrees typically won’t get you into a T15. It’s better than nothing ig. Hopefully your college GPAs are decent.
>and am getting rekt by GMAT math practice questions?
Uh, maybe learn some fucking math, retard? You might not know this because of your meme degrees, but college is for learning shit. You’re getting filtered by the exam that’s intended to assess whether you learned fuck from shit in college, and you clearly did not. What are you trying to achieve with this grad degree?

>>63801706
>Do you have better options for a grad degree?
Possibly. I've put a lot of thought into what degree(s) to get from where and have arrived at an MBA next, but that's just my current plan rather than a foregone conclusion.
>T15
I was aiming for University of Washington, so like T25 if that makes much of a difference. I mean I also plan on applying to MIT and Stanford and shit, but that's because they have free applications for veterans, not because I have any expectation of actually getting in to elite schools.
>What are you trying to achieve with this grad degree?
I need to blow my GI Bill on something, I want to experience a real school, and getting more stuff to put on my resume is always cool.

>>63801874
>I want to experience a real school
Vets just whine when they do this.

>>63801563
I would not go into the Air Force with only one job in mind. You do NOT get to pick which job you want and ship with it (unlike the Navy, CG, or Army). You make a ranked list of ~14ish jobs and typically expect to get any job between ranks 1-10. This job is typically harder to book since it’s an air crew position (the jobs everyone wants since you wear the flight suit). IIRC sensor op is also combined with another AFSC called AMO in which you’ll be on an actual air plane on a computer—it’s like a 50:50 on which you’ll get. Either way I’d talk to an Air Force recruiter since they’d know which jobs are available as there is a good chance yours is not. The base you’ll be sent to (probably creech) does suck major ass but that’s the price you get with being in the cushy Air Force. This job does also involve killing people (guided munitions) so if that isn’t your cup of tea I just want you to be aware of it.


Also you aren’t talking about FLYING the actual drone right? That’s a commissioned officer position so I’m assuming you’re talking about enlisting.

>>63801894
I have low enough self esteem that I can understand why he got the "DUDE I SERVED" bag, but enough social awareness to realize how retarded that is lmao

>>63801643
>I was hoping to give my family some extra income,
If money is what you want, O-side, active duty drone pilot is pretty solid pay.
>and I know guys in the local guard who can make a living from it,
Sure, if they’re on orders or full-time. Are you sure you’ll be a full-timer? If not, what’s your plan?
>and hopefully not deploy.
General rule of thumb is that the guard deploys more than Active Duty. Maybe drones are different though.
>On the other hand, I was living in China, and I definitely think a war is possible in the next year or two. I have seen some serious warning signs. Things I didn't even see in the news.
Nothing ever happens.
>I figure, pick a job while I'm ahead.
Drone operator is definitely a safe gig.

>>63801874
>Possibly. I've put a lot of thought into what degree(s) to get from where and have arrived at an MBA next, but that's just my current plan rather than a foregone conclusion.
MBAs are worthless without a plan. If you don’t know why you want an MBA, don’t get one. My cousin got an MBA because his company offered to pay for it, and they promoted him right after he finished it. That’s the kind of shit an MBA is good for. Or a school with clout on your resume, like Stanford. It’s also good for networking, but if you get an MBA at fucking WVU or some bullshit, you’re networking with future used car salesman. Big whoop.
>I was aiming for University of Washington, so like T25 if that makes much of a difference.
I’m not sure UofW has enough clout to fucking mean something unless, like I said, you’re trying to advance a career you already have. I’m sure it’s a solid program, but I wouldn’t expect to get sniped by Amazon corporate because you get an MBA from UofW.
>I mean I also plan on applying to MIT and Stanford and shit, but that's because they have free applications for veterans, not because I have any expectation of actually getting in to elite schools.
Worth a shot. Are your GPAs good?
>I need to blow my GI Bill on something,
There’s better things to “blow” your GI Bill on than an MBA from “somewhere.”
>I want to experience a real school,
I wouldn’t expect any frat parties as a 30-something MBA student, but the college experience is still fun. It’s way better as prior-mil because you actually have money and can drink legally and don’t have to work at the campus Starbucks to afford your book fees. The college experience actually sucks if you’re poor.
>and getting more stuff to put on my resume is always cool.
Like what? Gay pornstar? Truck stop male prostitute?
Padding the resume is nice, but you could also make it meaningful somehow too.

I’m not saying an MBA is bad. Just know why you want it before you pursue one

>>63801643
>I have seen some serious warning signs. Things I didn't even see in the news.
Oooooohh. What you mean?

>>63801894
Anon, that video is reflecting on the loneliness of losing your buddies after leaving. You've never had a friend group that you would miss, so you can't relate to this feeling

>>63802332
Well see, he's got a friend/cousin/uncle/coworker in "high places" in the Pentagon who has signaled him to "be prepared". No further details due to op-sec but soon we will be Oscar Mike, so load up on MREs and .22LR

>>63802332
>>63802594
I only lived there. They don't televise it since the Russians tipped their hat in 22, so I kept close attention in case I needed to get out, and there's things I can't really explain well.
But for example, they did a huge test of the air raid sirens in a bit coastal city I happened to be in. I asked around after. Last minute warning, and it was the first time, ever. Nobody had even heard a siren in person before.
I met a few PLA soldiers, too. Even rank and file are being trained to stand in ferries.
Then there's blood drives. They're more careful after Ukraine about letting things slip like that, but there's been a quiet move to get more people to donate. Chinese don't really donate blood, on average.
Of course, there's the two yearly strait operations they do now. You can see that in the news. Like clockwork, and they do it bigger every time, surround the island. Always at the two same periods of the year when the crossing is favorable. And every single week, they're sending sorties through the island's airspace, and it's increased a lot.

I think I'll get a Electronics Systems Engineering Technology degree from Thomas Edison State University while I'm in, and then WGU's Computer Science degree right after. How marketable will I be with both of these for DoD jobs?

>>63804906
Very, but why two BSc's when you could go get a graduate degree instead?

>>63805347
Because I haven't decided what masters I want yet. Gonna use the GI bill for that.

Dirlewangerfag is active and furious after his Dirlie cock worship thread got hijacked and deleted. Be warned of all anti-military posts and responses

>>63787216
>when the draft kicks off
you guys are so detached from reality

>>63806308
Bro George W Bu- no I mean Oba- no I mean Tru- no I mean Bid- no I mean Trump is totally gonna draft us any day now! BE PREPARED!

What fed L/E job is most like traditional law enforcement?
ICE ERO?
USMS?

>>63787216
>event of a draft
lmfao

>>63803675
This is embarrassing to read

How do walk-ons to Airborne school work?
Can an intel POG at Eisenhower walk on to Airborne?

>>63807928
Get a physical done, build your packet, check requirements, and talk to your schools NCO. I've heard of it happening but usually for fresh Ranger School grads.

>>63780348
One week notice before XO starts bitching.

>>63780236 (OP)
Any information on trump increasing money for veterans services?

>>63808330
He said he was going to cut veteran’s benefits. I wouldn’t count on it.

>>63780403
>>63780385
Probably a joke. Apparently the PowerPoint is such a common and agonizing sight to see that officers are allowed to make silly ones for fun.

I'm getting tired of my recruiter's half-assed attempts to be friendly so I don't bail out of DEP. Just leave me alone bro, I already signed the dotted line.

how hard is it to be guaranteed airborne in a contract
is it possible to request a specific unit (Arctic)

>>63780385
Where does MDMP fit into this?

>>63808366
>how hard is it to be guaranteed airborne in a contract
Idk about availability but option 4 is what you're looking for.
>is it possible to request a specific unit (Arctic)
Same but option 19 for JBER/Wainwright.

Keep in mind it's one or the other, option 4 or 19. You can't get both on your contract at once.

Would anyone here like to be my character reference for my SF86? I don't know anyone in real life. Just need your name, address, zip code, and phone #

>>63808534
Fartrell Cluggens
8647 N Ave S, East Westbrook, 80085
(512) 916-5834

>>63808406
thank you for the information

>>63808534
>I don't know anyone in real life
Same, the interviewer gave me a look like I was bullshitting but I legit spent the last few years jerking off and playing online games

>>63807038
US park police (not park rangers) and BIA 0083's are your choices for patrol / community contact / 'real' cop work

All other uniformed feds are basically security guards

Is getting an option 4 and attempting to get into rangers from there more realistic than going straight in with an option 40?

>>63808534
>>63808613
Seymore Butts
6969 Ben Dover Road,
Intercourse, Pennsylvania, USA

>>63809392
What do you mean more realistic?
Option 40 guarantees a RASP slot, option 4 doesn't. Seems pretty cut and dry.

>>63808534
If you need a character reference here's a bit of info if they ask you anything bout me:

My name is Yoshikage Kira. I'm 33 years old. My house is in the northeast section of Morioh, where all the villas are, and I am not married. I work as an employee for the Kame Yu department stores, and I get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I don't smoke, but I occasionally drink. I'm in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning. I was told there were no issues at my last check-up. I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life. I take care not to trouble myself with any enemies, like winning and losing, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with society, and I know that is what brings me happiness. Although, if I were to fight I wouldn't lose to anyone.

>>63810453
You know, that season of JoJo felt childish when I first watched it but it really grew on me upon later reflection

>>63810453
This is making me laugh my ass off for some reason

>(Like a year and a half ago, but it popped into my head just now out of nowhere)
>Meet Army Reservist (or Guard, I forgot) at work
>She says she does computer stuff in the Army
>Ask her if she's 25 series
>She says she's a 26B
>The fuck? (I have never heard of it, but I have also never been in the Army)
>Ask 25B friend about it
>He's never heard of it either
>Look it up
>It really exists
How rare of a person did I meet? Is that like seeing a CW5?

Isn't this the entire point of being a recruiter?

https://www.stripes.com/branches/army/2025-06-10/army-recruiter-sex-acts-teens-fort-sam-houston-18078043.html

>>63812707
What the fuck that's my recruiter. Who do I answer to for meps now?

so if I do rotc and complete it. but I still have time left in my national guard contract. am I boned? weighing whether I should reenlist in the guard,

>>63813169
Your guard contract is rendered null and void by your ROTC commission. Mention to whomever runs your ROTC program whether you want to go active duty, or stay in the guard. This is relevant for a number of reasons but they could explain it better than me. Either way, you are not boned.

This information is pertinent on the fact you are in army ROTC and not Navy/AF.

Which mechanic-type job is best among all the branches?

>>63813579
>https://uscgvirtualrecruiting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Guaranteed-A-School-Enlistment-Bonuses.pdf

EM, ET are electrician rates (ET more so a fixing electrical instruments rate, and EM more so what you'd think an electrician does--making power occur). MK is all about gears, engines, etc etc. You will not only being doing heavy electrical/mechanical work on all these rates but you will also get merchant marine credits since these rates are taught to CG standards (which happen to be commercial shipping standards since they--the CG--makes the rules). The only downsides are that you will be on a boat for a few months of the year.

Bump

will you get in trouble for browsing / posting on 4chan in dorms
do they monitor the internet
is 4chan blocked outright

>>63813546
so If I go from National guard to active duty Army via rotc I can probably get my commitment waved?

But for instance If do active duty air force rotc most likely I would need to complete my obligation.

would an inter service transfer be possible?

>>63813163
Why didn't you get invited to his parties?

So I'm doing credit overloading at 20 credits per semester and a 15 credit summer semester. I'll have 45 credits in August. I should be graduating in December of 2027
I know technically I'm not going to be a junior yet, but should I be reaching out to an Officer recruiter in August at the end of this semester since it'll be barely a year from graduation?

Can't do ROTC because I have a job, I'm also 29 and I want to not have to wait around for 3 years after graduation for OTS/OCS

>>63814117
Surprisingly, 4chan is not banned in any form. All internet traffic is monitored however, so best to use cellular data

>>63814190
I'm not an underage girl

>>63814156
>so If I go from National guard to active duty Army via rotc I can probably get my commitment waved?
It’s not waived. It’s conditionally released so that you can continue to serve as a commissioned officer. Army guard to Army officer happens all the time. It’s not a big deal, and your command might even be required to release you by Big Army (not sure though).

>But for instance If do active duty air force rotc most likely I would need to complete my obligation.
You would need a signed conditional release from your commander, and, hypothetically, they can deny it I think. However, unless your commander hates you, he’ll probably sign it. It’s not a big deal and happens a lot. Just don’t be a shitbag on your guard duties.

>would an inter service transfer be possible?
Army to Air Force as an officer? Short answer: No.

Long answer: Yes, the Air Force takes officer service transfers, but only for job slots they’re really struggling to fill. Which, right now, the Air Force is not struggling to fill any officer job slots, so the answer is basically no unless something really changes in the future and you get crazy lucky.

Is commissioning a waste of time if you already have a good job? Realistically, you’re not going to make a career out of it or become special forces right?

If I've done shrooms once when I was younger, realistically, how fucked will I be if I go for a job that requires TS clearance?
For context, I was 17 when I took them, I'm 19 now.

>>63816634
Not very. If you've kept your secrets to the grave, just lie. Polygraph machines aren't truly lie detectors, they're stress detectors for intimidating you into thinking they're lie detectors.If people know, telling the full truth is generally not disqualifying as long as its not a felony or a habitual thing.
Obviously, remember which choice you made because it needs to be your life-long story. You don't want to say the opposite thing on a later check.

Also there's a difference between a full scope check (asking if you jerk off to futa) and a standard one (asking if you're in debt to anyone with a Russian sounding name). Most clearances are the latter.

>>63816605
It sounds like you've already made up your mind.

>>63816712
Not exactly. I’m debating this with my brother. He wants to commission but he’s in his 30s and has a good job so I told him he is retarded.

>>63815059
thanks man.
so in most cases I should be able to get a conditional release? as far as I can tell I'm not a shitbag, at least junior enlisted wise.

>>63816672
Thanks, I appreciate it.
If I do go that route, I'll tell the truth. Most of my friends know I've done them.

My recruiter just told me I am not eligible for option 19 because I have a GED (scored 96 on the ASVAB btw, lmao). Is he bullshitting me?
If he isn't bullshitting me, should I bite the bullet and enlist anyways (35N)? What's the worst place you can end up as as a 35N?

>>63816634
>should I admit I took a drug that gave me a stomach ache just so I can feel more emotions and prolong my security clearance timeline or potentially get me denied and lock me out of high paying federal jobs that require clearance
>or should I say nothing and get a decent job as a military officer that will bring life long benefits

I don’t know retardbro, this is a tough fucking choice.

>>63816818
It's too late for him. The time to commission is straight out of uni.

>>63810453
>ywn have Kira Yoshikage be your character reference because he got murdered by a bunch of asshole teenagers
it's not fair

>>63817020
He's bullshitting you. Tier 2 education only disqualifies you from enlistment bonuses. 35N is a good MOS thoughbeit but see if you can get a good overseas station.

>>63817308
>Tier 2 education only disqualifies you from enlistment bonuses.
Are there any regulations I can show him to get him to stop fucking with me or should I just find a new recruiter?

>>63817397
You select your duty station of choice at MEPS, the recruiter isn't even a middleman between you and the army so feel free to look for another one. Worst case scenario he can gossip like a bitch and you'll need to redo any paperwork you've already filled out

>>63780236 (OP)
>war with shitran is about to kick off
>picked 35T instead of 11B
Well fuck…

what are the odds we go to war soon?
i didnt enlist after high school because i dont give a shit about getting a free ride to gay ass college, i want to shoot hajis but of course we are at like the longest era of peace in the fucking country's history

>>63817616
The implication being that you wanted to be cannon fodder? What's wrong with 35T?

>>63817626
>we are at like the longest era of peace in the fucking country's history
We're literally kicking houthis in the dick right now

>>63817741
its like one boat and a dozen people on computers dropping a coupla bombs on them, thats boring
i want ground invasion, i want A10 strafes while humvees drive forward, i want to war

>>63817616
>11b meme
19-series chads seriously cannot stop winning. I can't believe anyone would choose to march around when there is an option to be a tanker/Bradley crewman.

>>63817626
Can you explain WHY you want to shoot hajis?

>>63818086
If you dont get it then dont try. No shame in that.

>>63817757
It would be a stupid waste of time, iran would be fun. Russia would be astoundingly so much more fun.

>>63818086
You have to be a man to understand.

>>63817218
That's not how he died, speedreader

>>63817626
>i dont give a shit about getting a free ride to gay ass college, i want to shoot hajis
You can use the GI bill for trade schools and stuff, too.

>>63816818
>He wants to commission but he’s in his 30s
>>63817196
>It's too late for him.
He can be the next Heather Price

>>63817616
Should have taken Option 40 nigga
(I don't know if 35T is eligible for Option 40 desu (I was never in the Army, let alone Ranger Regiment))

>>63807648
Eh, the stuff he's talking about is exactly what think tanks use to predict wars. OSINT. When I worked for a corpo analyst firm, we used to do it for market research, and occasionally sell it to a geopolitical think tanks. It came up a lot trying to sell low grade consumer electronics to niggers in Nigeria.

>>63818089
>>63818134
Brainwashed

>>63819336
Some people just have that dog in them, you wouldn't get it

>>63816818
>Not exactly. I’m debating this with my brother. He wants to commission but he’s in his 30s and has a good job so I told him he is retarded.
Your brother can have a good job today and be unemployed tomorrow. Big whoop.

That being said, commissioning is itself a good job. The pay is pretty damn good (especially at O-3+), and you’re entitled to all the same benefits as the enlistoids. Healthcare, homeloan, GI Bill. No college fund for your son? You can give him your GI Bill after I think 7 years or something.

Your brother could commission, do 4 years, and then try to get his good job back at the end. He might even become a National Guard officer or something and pull like an extra $1,000 a drill. It’s not like he’s going to ruin his life being an officer. An O-1 makes more money than the median American.

>>63816992
>so in most cases I should be able to get a conditional release? as far as I can tell I'm not a shitbag, at least junior enlisted wise.
Yes, conditional releases so that you may *continue to serve* in some other capacity (like a commission) usually get approved. It’s unusual for them not to be approved. Is it technically possible for them to be denied? Yes, but this is the military. Nothing’s ever guaranteed, so just work towards what you want and hope it works out.

>>63817196
>It's too late for him. The time to commission is straight out of uni.
You’re a fucking retard.

>>63820185
>pic
Fucking based, you know its bad if they say no

>>63817757
>i want ground invasion, i want A10 strafes while humvees drive forward, i want to war
It’s not 1995 anymore. A $200 drone with plastic strapped to it can eliminate a platoon or disable a tank. Technology has made grunts obsolete. Grunts now exist to be relatively cheap cannon fodder and tools.

We can toss rockets 400mi and blow your dick off while you’re masturbating in a foxhole. If war kicks off with a near peer, you want to be as far from the action as possible. You wanna be the guy launching rockets from 2 countries away, not the dude marching through a field towards the border on foot.

Does anyone know what to do if a hwmv doesn't start? We have electricity, but turning the starter switch didn't do anything

>>63820516
Sorry, HMMWV

>>63820516
>>63820520
The wait light turns on, and doesn't turn off. Turning the switch further does nothing, it makes no noise

>>63820531
Slave it to another vic, try charging for a minute and starting. Check the PMCS tables, mark faults, bring to mechanics.
Could be the battery or alternator. In either case it's a little beyond 10 level to fix.

Is this just daily life at this point for you guys?
https://www.stripes.com/theaters/us/2025-06-10/navy-sailor-missing-dead-18080989.html

>>63820516
Is this YOUR vehicle or one you're borrowing. If your driver cant start the fuckin thing then you need to lynch that fuck.

>>63821001
>Check the PMCS tables, mark faults, bring to mechanics.

>>63820516
Is it fueled?

I was able to get in to the navy with a hearing waiver, but I'm still worried about failing the test at reception. Is it a dumb idea to try and cheat the test a little bit? I figure throwing in some extra clicks wont hurt.

oh my god israel is bombing iran aaaaaaah why couldnt i bet canadian what the fuuuuuuuck

>>63780236 (OP)
How would you rank the combat arms from based to cringe? I'm kind of interested in armor or field artillery, but would like to learn more before deciding on a preferred method of killing.

>>63820220
>If war kicks off with a near peer, you want to be as far from the action as possible
shut up queer

>>63822283
Idk about that but infantry stands head and shoulders above the rest in terms of how much cool shit an individual soldier can do in a career
>ranger regiment
>sniper school
>augmentee to SOF
>direct frontline action, direct violence
>shoot people in the face and body
>SMUs
An armor crewman or artilleryman gets to shoot big guns and blow shit up, sure, but he doesn't have the wide variety of opportunities for violence that a ground pounder does.

You fellas ready to go to Iran?

>>63822176
>>63822506
This happens all the time. Stop whining

>>63822615
>israel bombs iran all the time

>>63822624
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Israel_proxy_conflict

Zoomies need to read up on history

>>63822283
Artillery was the elite branch in the 1800s. Today it's where they send retards. Don't do it if you're enlisted. If you're commissioning it's making a comeback tho.
Tankers used to be boomer types. Mediocre, slightly dim normies convinced they were keyed. I think the modern generation is feeling a bit insecure, probably more autistic gamers from WOT hoping they're still relevant somehow.
Attack helicopters used to be a chill branch but they're the real obsolete branch.
Anti-air is the secretly high stress branch. You'll deploy a lot more than you think. The US farms out its anti-air guys all around the world for diplomacy. It's great if you're single. Avoid if you're married.

Infantry - well, you know. Infantry is probably eternal.

Whats your mos you dumb maggots

>>63822654
cope

i am pleased with these developments, time to see if something actually happens this time though

>>63822624
It literally happened last year, yeah

>>63822743
>in such manner where the entire IRGC leadership is killed and nuclear facilities deleted

you guys are such giant fags for acting like this doesnt change things

>>63822765
Nothing ever happens

Also, new thread

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>>63822765
Not really, no. Israel has spawned the next wave of leaders, scientists and soldiers with its actions tonight; the geopolitical balance hasn't changed; and Iran's nukes are still safely buried under mountains.

This is about Netanyahu trying to keep himself in power.

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>>63822778
lolololol

you are a joke lmao

>>63822793
I can't tell what side you're even on

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