Thread 63794928

Is revolver still relevant to law enforcement agencies?

>>63794928 (OP)
Yes, but in this case he's not using it to shoot criminals.
It's loaded with low-power dart projectiles containing a fast acting solution of amphetamines and steroids, he just inserts the barrel into his asshole, pulls the trigger, and hulk smashes anyone in a 3 meter radius.

>>63794928 (OP)
38spl/357 snub backup gun on a boot holster.

That’s about it though.

>>63794928 (OP)
Only when Alec Baldwin has used it.

>>63794928 (OP)
In countries where civilian firearms are not common they still make sense. But why when glocks exist? The only logical reason is the revolvers already being owned by the police force and them being gradually phased out and replaced with the less expensive and superior automatics.

>>63795081
Most cops never fire a shot in anger so there is no real harm in letting the old guys carry their revolver until they retire, you just don't allow the young guys to carry them.

>>63794928 (OP)
No, there's no reason. The reality is officers were as poor shots back in the 70s as they are today, the idea was they were supposed to make every shot count but the criminals weren't riding around with 21 round mag glocks and AR pistols

asian cops use them because they are behind at least 100 years when it comes to police advancement, mostly because their crime is organized or at a very executive level.

>>63795086
You have to stock the bullets for the revolvers. I guess if they don't get much range time it's fine.

>>63795106
It's just buying 2 kinds of box instead of one, it's not like they are deploying on the other side of the world.

>>63795112
You have to get special boxes for just the old guy. But again, if it's them eating through the old ammo using the old system I think it makes sense. Like how the M1 Garand wasn't fully phased out until the 1970s.

>>63794928 (OP)
God DAMN he's fucking huge. Mirin hard. Anyways your thread sucks, revolvers are only used in Asian countries a) because violent crime is rare and b) to maintain the appearance of being friendly neighborhood cops. Chinese guy I work with told me police there are basically treated like superheroes who can help you with anything. If they were all militarized it would ruin the vibes.

>>63795143
Chinese have been spamming the image all week because the guy is huge

>>63795143
All police should be like that

>>63795081
I’d argue that a revolver is simpler to operate than a semiautomatic, especially a basic double action.. no need to train for jams or ftf… just pull the trigger again… I think I remember seeing a picture of a Chinese police revolver on here at some point.. they put a ring on the bottom of the grip and chain the revolver to the officers belt so it can’t be easily stolen (or left somewhere) that said that’s a pretty niche use.. but I think it’s a valid one.

>>63795279
Also I guess from a training standpoint you probably waste less ammo with a 6 shot revolver vs magdumping 16 round magazines…

>>63794928 (OP)
6 shots isn't enough, but 18 oughta do it.

>>63795087
They had Mac 11's and Kalashnikovs

>>63795279
Revolvers, for mechanical reasons, have a propensity for accidental discharge that autoloaders do not have.

>>63794928 (OP)
>>63795143
Unironically, I think if more cops were armed like Barney Fife, we'd had 30% less retarded cop shootings.
(thanks for the warning about calling Russian fags, Mr. Janny. Promise I'll never call them or your worthless fatasses faggots again. For free at least.)
Thread theme btw
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us3_8FxoAls

>>63795347
Not in the last 60 years unless you deal in antiques….

>>63794928 (OP)
As backup carries absolutely, a snub shoved in a pocket or ankle holster

>>63795143
Most Chinese police don’t carry guns most of the time. I think they only give them out of they are responding to someone with a gun. The rationale is that most criminals don’t have guns, and the party fears that armed policemen might revolt.

My dad once told me that one of my relatives (probably either grandfather, who had been a PLAAF major in Korea and later worked for Xinhua, or an uncle who was a tax collector) had a friend in the police who talked about how they had a room in the station where they beat people until they confessed, so it’s not like Chinese police are super nice, either.

I’ve also seen another of my uncles (an unemployed bum) brawling with a policeman, but nothing happened to him. I heard that if you get into a fight with a policeman, then it is considered a private matter, but if you knock their hat off or damage it, then you will be severely punished (as it is a symbol of the state).

This may not be 100% accurate. Most of it is hearsay from years ago.

t. ABC

they just don't live with red guards

>>63795258
I don't think police should be militarized, but giving them high capacity automatics has legitimately saved countless lives. The mag dump method is trained because it works really well at physically stopping attackers, where pain and fear aren't enough.

>>63795381
>it’s not like Chinese police are super nice, either.
Oh for sure, the guy is full of shit. He thinks living in an authoritarian police state is great because otherwise Xinjiang terrorists would be blowing up skyscrapers left and right. I just found it interesting how much faith he puts in their government, how happy he seems to be with the state of things there.

Asian police should carry single action revolvers.

Yeah, for instance If you need to arm a bunch of seasonal officers with a proven reliable gun thag they'll probably never shoot but is still capable in a pinch and with the added benefit of it seeming "traditional" and "less militaristic".

>>63795292
>36 shots
>this time i got 36 shots

>>63795442
>Ocelots are proud creatures. They prefer to hunt alone.

>>63794928 (OP)
As far as I know some departments still have them in use. When I tested for CPD some old officer had a S&W on his hip at the exam checking people in.

>>63794928 (OP)
>Is revolver still relevant to law enforcement agencies?
No. Not as a primary weapon. ALL modern LEO forces are taught to magdump. That's not only easier to do with an autoloader, but with an autoloader you don't need to be as good of a shot. Like it or not, most cops spend only the minimally required amount of time on the range, AND they are given unlimited amount of chances to qualify. There's not one cop I've ever seen in my Dad's classes that I could not out shoot. They pretty much suck. A revolver would only highlight that even more.

>>63795143
>Chinese guy I work with told me police there are basically treated like superheroes who can help you with anything.
Lol he is lying to make china look better, or has a very romantic viewpoint and hasn't been back in like twenty years to remember how things actually are outside movies and TV dramas.
Chinese cops in a tier 1 city MAYBE, but anywhere else, especially out in the countryside, they're treated like assholes and slobs who either couldn't stand to get a real job, or are too stupid to go to better schools.
They are not worthy of any respect at all and people only tolerate them because they're backed by the state.

>>63794928 (OP)
.357 mag is the most practical pistol round for dealing with threats wearing soft kevlar. A niche scenario, but a scenario none the less.

>>63794928 (OP)
Its goated for CQC situations.

>>63796024
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ck4g_-MCu8&pp=ygUVZWxsaWUgc2hvb3RzIHByZWduYW50

>>63795741
I’ve heard that there’s 2 tiers of cops in China, the civil servant cops and the temp cops. Civil servant cops are much rarer, have great benefits and job security, and you need to get some sort of civil servant certification to become one. And then there are countless randos hired as cops, they have no qualifications, benefits, or job security.

>>63795347
>what is a "safety transfer bar"
>what is the Sig P320
try again

>>63796051
Oh lookie. The anti-Sig schizo is spamming in yet another thread.

>>63794928 (OP)
Why did you not use a Miami Vice image for this.

>>63794928 (OP)
apparently i get to carry whatever tf handgun I want when i make it to detective, dubs decides which gun i will use

>>63795143
>>63795148
>Chinese have been spamming the image all week because the guy is huge
>>63795258
It's a PR demo.
Note the OpFor ribbon on the guy's arm, him not looking like a bum and the marking tape on the revolver that probably warns that it's inert or blank loaded or something.

>>63795381
>Most Chinese police don’t carry guns most of the time
They have armed SWAT teams who often stand guard in public spaces, outside train stations, malls and squares.
Otherwise, only patrol leaders and such carry guns and only if responding to violence (though it doesn't have to be gun violence).

>>63795409
>He thinks living in an authoritarian police state is great
Parts of it are. There's great parts of the Chinese system, it's not pure shit, it's more nuanced than that.
For one, violent crime is almost unheard of. And if you're not poor, the huge domestic market provides almost anything you can possibly want.

The price of the good parts is obviously more than most of us are prepared to pay though.

>>63794928 (OP)
If they train with it more than they would with a semi-automatic, then it is.

It's not like guns matter to normal police operations.

>>63797109
>For one, violent crime is almost unheard of.
>unheard of
This land is peaceful, its inhabitants kind.

>>63794928 (OP)
It’s sufficient for low violent crime regions with barely any civilian gun ownership, Japan and Hong Kong uses them, Singapore too maybe but I can’t recall

>>63797039
>can't refute the argument, so smear the character

>>63795741
>>63796038
>chang goes to wrong place for college entrance exam
>ching on chopper drives him across town
Spot the semi-auto in kydex holster

>>63797692
That's GaoKao day.
Final exam for high school and determines university admissions.
It's a huge deal and stuff like that happens all the time.
There's also a noise curfew the week before and the square dancing aunties have to shut up early.
The community take exams very seriously, I think it's one of the more admirable parts of the culture.

>>63797733
>The community take exams very seriously, I think it's one of the more admirable parts of the culture.
My GF is a teacher in the US, and from what I've seen, I absolutely mean it when I say that the state of education in the US is fucking scary.
Bush should have never started the "No Child Left Behind" bullshit, the resulting 20 years of ever-devolving federally mandated PC education nonsense has intellectually hobbled an entire generation and then some.
Kids in school now are probably drastically behind when compared to the rest of the globe.
We really should take a page or two out of their book on some of that "brutal, psuedo-brainwashing education at the cost of the student's sanity" shit they run.

>>63795143
>Chinese guy I work with told me police there are basically treated like superheroes who can help you with anything.

Nobody believes this, least of all the people living in China. It's incredibly common for small business owners to pay them protection money.

>>63794928 (OP)
>Skim through thread
Hold up, that nigga's Chinese? I just assumed this was New Zealand and he's a Maori dude who wasn't quite good enough for pro rugby. One of the biggest Changs I've ever seen.

Six bullets. More than enough to kill anything that moves.

>>63795640
Brother and uncle are deputies and their skill is pedestrian at best. There's a reason the local range doesn't allow any civilians on it when the local PD has their qualification days. Not even the regular RO's are there.

>>63797854
you just know the roidbeast is tapping that flappy dappy multiple times per shift

>>63797062
pink lcp

>>63794928 (OP)
Can /fit/ chime in on how much roids this guy would have to inject to get this swole?

>>63795389
Rather living under commie rule or under anarcho-ZOG-nigger rule is one fucking hell of a dilemma

>>63795368
>>63796051
If the revolvers are being used as legacy systems they likely are more than 60 years old anon...

>>63798029
There are roid monkies everywhere you go, I’ve seen changs this big but they’re rare. I’m talking size where there’s no way the man can take off a shirt by himself. Asia in general just have less focus on fitness, societal pressure against drugs and often draconian laws to go with it.

>>63795431
Years ago (early 90’s) I worked as a seasonal in OC, MD where they issued wheel guns to the seasonable and most locals and jack offs know to treat them like the substitute teacher. I’m sure they’ve probably changed by now.

>>63797039
The criticism is valid tho.

>>63803455
Still doing it as of last year

>>63803728
>"each officer will few over 1,200 rounds each year"
>will few over
>1,200

ESL people deserve the upcoming purge

>>63803758
Clearly he meant fire and autocorrect just didn’t get it.

>>63799727
>>63798029
He could have Mongolian DNA

>>63801672
Most police departments used revolvers up till the end of the 80’s. It’s longer ago than I’d like, but still well under 60 years.

>>63795081
Limited capacity has a niche advantage: if a criminal steals an officer's sidearm, he'll only have 5 or 6 shots rather than 17+1, that's one of the reason why Japan still issues revolvers to police officers. They know that the only source of black market sidearms are stolen police guns, so they want to cripple their chances to outgun them in a potential gunfight. Cops can always call in CT units with SMGs, but armed criminals would be stuck with their six shooters.
>Why don't they carry Glocks then with only 8 rounds in the mag?
Because you can still put extended mags in a Glock, but there's no way you can increase the capacity of a revolver.

>>63806445
>Limited capacity has a niche advantage: if a criminal steals an officer's sidearm, he'll only have 5 or 6 shots rather than 17+1, that's one of the reason why Japan still issues revolvers to police officers
until a goober makes a 9 shot blackpowder shotgun out of pipes

>>63804289
If that's true, then it's even worse

I bet her braps smell like fish.

>>63807068
You're an idiot.

>>63803728
The Smithsonian Police Department in DC still issues revolvers too, but they're required to by law. Someone made a typo in the CFR when the department was established way back in the day and wrote that the department is authorized to utilize revolvers and maintain power of arrest instead of writing that they could utilize firearms like what is written for every other federal agency. Since it would take an act of Congress to fix this, they're pretty much stuck carrying wheel guns.

>>63810187
>Someone made a typo

>>63794928 (OP)
No, you need minimum marksmanship for revolvers.

>>63794928 (OP)
>>63795143
Also, a lot of Asian countries you're required to account for *every fucking bullet* when you go hot. They've had problems with cops selling off ammo from their duty weapons in the past (really, most countries with extremely restrictive systems have had them). So outside the most extreme situations a beat cop losing their brass in Japan or Singapore is treated like they stole the ammo. Brits had the same problems and similar laws in some of their colonies, which included Hong Kong for a good while. Same reason they issued deliberately crippled shotguns with proprietary ammo to prison guards.

>>63795148
>>63797081

They have? Well they failed badly in that case, because I was 100% certain pic is from Japan. I'm sure im not the only one.
Stupid chinks. :)

>>63795059
Always good to have a plan B.

>>63794928 (OP)
Asian bros, we're gonna make it.

>>63803728
Back then I knew one guy who was an MP and they gave him a Beretta, I think as long as you have prior experience. I also remember they had multiple approved weapons, so some full time guys carried P226’s and other guns. Do you know the story why they don’t take their .38’s home anymore?

>>63799700
Based
>>63797062
You must go with the pink LCP, anon.

>>63813524
>because I was 100% certain pic is from Japan
I don't know Japanese uniforms but I'm certain that those are Chinese faces.
That said, I do know Chinese uniforms and those don't match any mainlander uniforms I've seen.
Maybe Hong Kong?
I wouldn't 100% rule out that this is a film/tv set.