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Anonymous No.63809896 >>63809904 >>63810128 >>63810300 >>63810331 >>63810355 >>63810372 >>63810476 >>63810552 >>63810639 >>63810780 >>63811398 >>63811906 >>63812605 >>63813846 >>63814703 >>63814703 >>63818022
How does he rate as a military /k/ommander?
For all his faults, he managed to hold his own against the Japanese, beat the foreign-backed Nationalists and stalemate the US in Korea.
Anonymous No.63809904 >>63809940 >>63815642
>>63809896 (OP)
He didn't do shit against the japs. He spent that entire war stockpiling and recruiting.
Anonymous No.63809940 >>63815642
>>63809904
He recognized that the true enemy of a Chinaman can only be another Chinaman.
Anonymous No.63810121
>stalemate the US in Korea.
If he only got a stalemate he couldnโ€™t have been that good. Great generals and commanders are known for winning wars, not losing millions of men in failing to win but not catastrophically losing them. And North Korea got the everloving crap bombed out of it, so he wasnโ€™t good enough to prevent that.
Anonymous No.63810128
>>63809896 (OP)
I mean, he did splendid job killing chinese when no one else would
Anonymous No.63810270 >>63810353 >>63810391 >>63810465 >>63810536 >>63811422 >>63811750 >>63812243
>Mao Zedong never brushed his teeth and by the time of his death, his teeth were covered in a green film. Mao had a habit, which was shared by many peasants in China, of washing his mouth in the morning with tea and then eating the tea leaves. Once, when his private physician suggested to him that he should use a toothbrush, he replied, โ€œA tiger never brushes his teeth.โ€
>Despite his infertility, Mao indulged in young women--sometimes more than one at the same time--and engaged in Taoist sexual practice to prolong his life. Mao even had a special bed made for his sexual activity, with the edge of one side raised about four inches higher than the rest of the bed, which he took every place he traveled, even to Moscow. His hygiene was even more eccentric; according to Li, Maoโ€™s โ€œgenitals were never cleaned.โ€ Instead, Mao said, โ€œI wash myself inside the bodies of my women.โ€
Anonymous No.63810300 >>63810355
>>63809896 (OP)
He got his son killed in Korea, along with most of the force that he was planning to use to invade Taiwan with.
Anonymous No.63810331
>>63809896 (OP)
As a military commander? Idk.

As a guerrilla warfare theorist? Top tier. His book on it was basically the US special forces' manual for 50 years.
Anonymous No.63810353 >>63810605 >>63810673 >>63810764
>>63810270
>and engaged in Taoist sexual practice to prolong his life
What was the practice? I knew a Taiwanese girl who said she was a Taoist and now I am thinking of her.
Anonymous No.63810355 >>63810361 >>63810435 >>63810653 >>63810780 >>63811764
>>63810300
>He got his son killed in Korea
Based. American oligarchs wouldn't dare risk their lives or the lives of their families like this
>>63809896 (OP)
>stalemate the US in Korea
He pushed the globohomo force out of north Korea, that was his objective and he achieved it handily. The Chinese won, the norks drew.
Anonymous No.63810361
>>63810355
>ping pong cope
Anonymous No.63810372
>>63809896 (OP)
The reason why the early weak ass CCP wasnt destroyed was because of his guerrilla based grand strategy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq66pBjvuNw

Uncle Ho read his works, btw, and so is like every gorilla fighter around the world.
Anonymous No.63810391 >>63810394
>>63810270
>A tiger never brushes his teeth
literally le smigma lion/tiger meme
Anonymous No.63810394 >>63810462
>>63810391
Sage No.63810435 >>63810463
>>63810355
>Losing Korea and causing millions of preventable deaths through starvation is Le Based!!!!
>Killing your son is also Le Based!!!

Behold, the /pol/tard mind
All fields No.63810462 >>63810474 >>63810497 >>63811402
>>63810394
>It's
If I didn't already know that it was a /pol/tard traitor I would say ESL but I know that you're just retarded and have a child's understanding of geopolitics

To summarize, Mao was one of the greatest retards of the entire 20th century. He was fortunate to have an ideal situation fall into his lap and coasted off of the accomplishments of others, failing upwards into leadership. Even with every advantage possible, he still failed in Korea (despite massive numerical and logistical advantages) and caused tens of millions of preventable deaths through obvious mismanagement. You can't tell peasants to wipe out sparrows and build pig iron furnaces in their fields and not be obviously incompetent.

With all of China's massive advantages it should have ruled the world long ago. It is rising in spite of Mao instead of because of him. Modern China owes its success to Deng Xiaoping and Xi Jinping a hundredfold over Mao, because they shut down the commie retardation and tempered it with capitalist pragmatism.
Anonymous No.63810463 >>63810469 >>63810477 >>63811040 >>63811268
>>63810435
If China lost Korea, why didnt the US bomb China during Vietnam war like they did uninvolved Laos?

China rekting the US in Korea was the reason the US was scared shitless about possible Chinese intervention during Vietnam.
Anonymous No.63810465 >>63810468 >>63812062
>>63810270
>with the edge of one side raised about four inches higher than the rest of the bed
For what purpose? I'm genuinely unable to figure this one out.
Anonymous No.63810468
>>63810465
To compensate for penis length
Anonymous No.63810469
>>63810463
Imagine being this deluded lmao
Anonymous No.63810474 >>63810504 >>63812263
>>63810462
>numerical advantage

not really.
China was outnumbered by the UN during their intervention.
And without Mao, China would have been a Philippines or India. Wouldnt even be able to throw out Western concessions and would have been enslaved by some neo-colonial system like the French did in Africa to this day.

Mao purged the entire country of all who arent Chinese. Without Mao, Deng and all the others would never be able to push the industrial policies that are literally destroying the West right now, because some jew in China's government would either pressure or assassinate the president who puts his own nation above the interests of foreign capital.
Anonymous No.63810476
>>63809896 (OP)
I wish I could hate the Chinese people as much as Mao hated them.
>Hundreds of millions must die
Anonymous No.63810477 >>63810500
>>63810463

If China won in Korea, why don't they own South Korea? Why did they get pushed back to the 38th parallel by an expeditionary force literally on their border?

It's always funny to me when you shills try to spin Korea as a victory for China. It's particularly pathetic because the only reason you're digging in your heels on this is because China's modern military history is so laughable and you have literally nothing else. You got bodied by fuckin' Vietnam ffs, and not in guerilla warfare like the US but in open conventional combat, and this after they'd been ravaged by war
Anonymous No.63810478
>>63810470
You are so mad, chang
Anonymous No.63810497
>>63810462
umad
Anonymous No.63810500 >>63810513 >>63810526 >>63810544 >>63812287
>>63810477
China never wanted to rule South Korea. The War is literally called "assisst North Korea and resist US aggression" in China. Both have been accomplished and North Korea today is a nuclear armed communist state with nukes trained against the US and their vassals. China won 100%.

And Vietnam wasnt just that two weeks long battle of 1979, but it was a 20+ years border war that ended with Vietnam suing for peace in the 90s when their economy collapsed due to constant border warfare against China, who took multiple border territories from them.
Saying China lost the border war with Vietnam is like saying Russia lost the Winter War against Finland just because they suffered losses against that one sniper. War is politics by other means and politically, Vietnam suing for peace and losing their claimed SCS islands counts for more.
Anonymous No.63810502
>merely pretending
Anonymous No.63810504 >>63810511 >>63810514
>>63810470
>>63810474

Every day, thank God that you weren't born worshipping a total retard, and without the sufficient level of mental illness to spin slaughtering tens of millions of your people and your own son as based and trad.

My point stands. You started Korea, you couldn't finish it, and you ended it minus a city and several thousand square kilometers poorer. All to build a failed state. That's China's only military "victory" of the 20th century lmao
Anonymous No.63810511 >>63810517
>>63810504
lotta words spilled over one pic of a lion
Anonymous No.63810513 >>63810519
>>63810500
>if i just bullshit win conditions china wins everytime
This is why chinesium is a term understood world wide.
Anonymous No.63810514 >>63810524 >>63810525 >>63810540 >>63810819
>>63810504
North Korea is a much more functional nation than South Korea aka suicide capital is lmao.
But it doesnt matter, since India will forever suck and eat shit and you being a janny here pays no bills because you are doing it for free.
Anonymous No.63810517 >>63810520
>>63810511
>got called out as being assblasted
>is now copying it to cope
Couldn't be any more transparently chang lmao its like if a guy named tyrone went on a grand theft bike spree
Anonymous No.63810519 >>63812327
>>63810513
Win condition: Vietnam's neutralization as a soviet vassal and a threat to China's border. This has been achieved.

Today, no matter how much the US tries to bribe and pressure Vietnam into becoming their meat-shield against China, the Communist Parties of China and Vietnam are allied and the CPV says NO to US attempts at turning them into a missile base.

https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/chinese-troops-arrive-in-ho-chi-minh-city-for-vietnam-s-historic-reunification-parade-4878661.html

>Chinese troops arrive in Ho Chi Minh City for Vietnamโ€™s historic reunification parade
Anonymous No.63810520 >>63810530
>>63810517
There's more than one person replying to you and I'm not whoever you think I am, you silly billy
Anonymous No.63810524 >>63810531
>>63810514
>North Korea is a much more functional nation than South Korea aka suicide capital is lmao.
lol, lmao even
Anonymous No.63810525 >>63810819
>>63810514
>North Korea is a much more functional nation than South Korea
Ascended Chink mindbreak. Gather round folks, this what the mindscape of a literal bug looks like.
Anonymous No.63810526 >>63810548
>>63810500
>North Korea invades South Korea with the intention of unifying the peninsula under the Kim monarcho-communist system
>gets ass beat all the way to the Chinese border
>China joins with the intent of expelled UN forces from the Korean peninsula
>fails to do so
>historical revisionist communist teenagers call this a victory 70 years later
Go back to /leftypol/, bluesky, r*ddit, or discord; whichever one you crawled out of.
Anonymous No.63810530
>>63810520
I'm not even the original guy, schizo
Anonymous No.63810531 >>63810542 >>63810549
>>63810524
-t. plastic surgeon and moonie
Anonymous No.63810536
>>63810270
Vile.

>>63810470
Mao's son got napalmed by a Corsair when he was busy cooking fried rice.
Anonymous No.63810540
>>63810514
Hi, Kim, are you still fat?
Anonymous No.63810542
>>63810531
Are you assblasted because chinese women want to look less chinese? And go to a more functional nation for the surgeries needed to do so? How far back is the last japanese paternal anscestor you have? Like... 20 years?
Anonymous No.63810544 >>63810576
>>63810500
>China never wanted to rule South Korea
Just like Russia never wanted Ukraine anyway amiright?

>assist North Korea and resist US aggression

I'm sure the moral victory was worth it LMAO, too bad you lost in every other sense tho.

>ended with Vietnam suing for peace in the 90s when their economy collapsed due to constant border warfare against China

Completely and uncategorically false. Economic collapse was not because of China. What's important is that you lost the conventional phase of the war and pulled out with nothing to show for it.
I'm sure I would be scaping the barrel too if my country had no clear military victories in two centuries. Actually I guess it depends on your perspective, if stalemating against the US to build a failed state is the benchmark for victory, I doubt anything in China's history is catastrophic or embarrassing enough to qualify as a defeat.
Anonymous No.63810547 >>63810819
>>63810537
>lower poverty, and a higher home ownership rate
Interesting fantasy.
Anonymous No.63810548 >>63810555 >>63810584 >>63810627 >>63811785
>>63810526
Get your history right.

China never warned the UN when they were beating back North Korea.
China only warned the UN of approaching the Chinese border and crossing the Yalu River.

China never really cared about North Korea reunifying the South or not, only whether a friendly buffer state exists or not.
China accomplished its goals of pushing the US troops out of North Korea and protecting their buffer state, nothing more. The fact that China actually managed to capture Seoul when they had momentum only shows how bad the US troops actually are under pressure kek.
Anonymous No.63810549 >>63810559
>>63810531
>t. plastic surgeon
How many surgeons do you think North Korea has?
Anonymous No.63810550 >>63810819 >>63810973 >>63811001
>>63810537
I love how fast changs go full meltdown lmao
>NORKS HAVE
kek
Anonymous No.63810551 >>63810819
>>63810537
Holy shit its an actual CHINKY MELTY
Come get some folks!
Anonymous No.63810552 >>63810568
>>63809896 (OP)

The greatest fault of the West is overestimating the intelligence & merit of the Chinese
Anonymous No.63810555 >>63810616
>>63810548
>changed win conditions again
Many such chinky copes
Anonymous No.63810559
>>63810549
Ideally zero, plastic surgery is against the principles of Juche
Anonymous No.63810563 >>63810575
>>63810557
>admitting to being Turkish
That's almost worse.
Anonymous No.63810566
>>63810470
>image is posted by a Wumao shill
Implessive and noted.
Anonymous No.63810568
>>63810552
I see this whenever changs have a meltdown, is it chink seething cope said as a mantra or is it just a copypasta used as a dogwhistle?
Anonymous No.63810572
>>63810557
>im a turk btw
as if thats better
Anonymous No.63810575 >>63811362 >>63812020
>>63810563
the TIMID COWARDLY AMERICAN with his FAT HAIRLESS PINK BODY is TERRIFIED and INTIMIDATED by the unparalleled MASCULINITY of the MED BVLL.......
Anonymous No.63810576 >>63810583 >>63810586 >>63811624
>>63810544
China captured and occupies Vietnamese teritorries like Laoshan in Yunnan Province to this day. Battles have been fought at late as 1990 and these parts of former Vietnam have been since signed off to China in the 2003 border treaty.

Same applies to South China Sea islands that China has taken from South Vietnam and then Communist Vietnam - they keep them occupied to this day.

So yeah, tell me about who lost and won because of a single phase of a campaign didnt go as well. It's Winter War all over again, where the Fins cope with their successful defense but lost the overall war in the end and had to sue for peace.
Anonymous No.63810579
>>63810557
>I'm not a bugman, I'm a roach
Anonymous No.63810583 >>63810589 >>63810595 >>63810644
>>63810576
Sage No.63810584
>>63810537
>>63810548

Hahahahahhahahahhahahahaha

Watch the commie tranny hemorrhage excuses like a teen with erectile dysfunction.

>China never cared
>We never wanted it anyway
>North Korea has a higher birth rate therefore better than South Korea
>Losing a city and several hundred thousand men in a war you started for no territorial gain is actually a huge victory.
>Vietnam was defeated, but actually they're our allies, we didn't even need that ally anyway

I'm not even one of the Americans who will deny current Chinese military advancement or accomplishments but you're embarrassing yourself by trying to rewrite your past record of failure and retardation. Mao was a fuckstick, the only reason that he got anything done is because he had even more retarded people to follow him, just like you.
Anonymous No.63810586 >>63810603
>>63810576
>many such chink copes
Anonymous No.63810587
>>63810557
>I'm turkish btw
Anonymous No.63810589
>>63810583
Oh no no no no!
Xisters, our response?
Anonymous No.63810593 >>63810598
>a Turk defending China
Why? The chinks subjugated the Turkic peoples for centuries and still are today?
Anonymous No.63810595
>>63810583
Anonymous No.63810598 >>63810613
>>63810593
He's not, he just knew it would get the reaction it did and figured it would inflame turk nationalists.
Anonymous No.63810603
>>63810586
>Winter War was only Simo Hรคyhรค shooting vatniks!!1

A single battle isnt the entire war

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_conflicts_(1979%E2%80%931991)

>The Sino-Vietnamese conflicts of 1979โ€“1991 were a series of border and naval clashes between the People's Republic of China and the Socialist Republic of Vietnam following the Sino-Vietnamese War in 1979. These clashes lasted from the end of the Sino-Vietnamese War until the normalization of ties in 1991.

Vietnam was exhausted from a decade long border war that sapped away their already heavily damaged economy, all the while China's economy took off. Even today, Vietnam lags behind China because of that despite having not even 1% of the sanctions imposed on them as China has.
Anonymous No.63810605
>>63810353
I can chime in: you can have an orgasm, but must not ejaculate, since that fluid is vital energy leaving you. To achieve this, while orgasming, you press the perineum (the area between the asshole and the balls). In this way the cum goes from the prostate back into the bladder (retrograde ejaculation). You will piss it out, but they did not know that. In fact, this can cause urinary tract infections (UTI).
Also, it is better to have the woman orgasm first, she will steal your vital energy since during the orgasm. Also, youn woman are best, because they are less in need of stealing your vital energy.
It is mumbo jumbo of course, but they started their line of reasoning from observation and (apparently) logical deduction.
Hope you enjoyed my TED Talk.
Anonymous No.63810607
>muh cartoon dog boogeyman
Anonymous No.63810613
>>63810596
I, >>63810598, stand corrected. He's just the most absolutely retarded roach there is lmao
Anonymous No.63810616 >>63810630 >>63810633
>>63810555

I do not entertain the coping nationalism of the subhumans, if they want to fight over South China then weโ€™ll find out
Sage No.63810622 >>63812327
>>63810596
>Eating my stuffed pastries and watching nafo Troons seethe just as I load into a game of enlisted. Can life get any better?
Anonymous No.63810625 >>63810640
>>63810596
China canโ€™t even fight Indian border guards armed with wooden clubs and rocks.
Anonymous No.63810627
>>63810548
>Get your history right
>posts more revisionist bullshit
Mao wanted to directly support North Korea from the beginning and said as much. My search terms trying to find the exact quote brings up so much obvious Chinese cope it makes me wonder if the whole "China really won the Korean War" things isn't just underage commie retards, but actually a recent push by the Chinese government that you've merely latched on to.
Anonymous No.63810630
>>63810616
>subhumans
>a turk shilling chinks
kek
Anonymous No.63810633
>>63810616
I don't entertain the coping (long distance) nationalism of noguns.
Anonymous No.63810639
>>63809896 (OP)
he's in contention for being the greatest guerilla leaders of all time. Too bad that none of those skills really translates to running a country
Anonymous No.63810640
>>63810625
Lol, I knew you were indian. Aksai chin status?
Anonymous No.63810644 >>63810646 >>63810810 >>63810824 >>63815941
>>63810583
Final proof that you pajeets have only a very surface level of historical knowledge.

Kinmen was deliberately kept close to China without being taken by the PLA during the later years simply because China needed to retain an "umbilical cord" of Taiwan next to China, so that Taiwan can never claim to be independent as long as they have a teritorry in swimming distance to the mainland, with a population that is economically interconnected with the mainland. Whenever the situation gets too calm, the PLA is ordered to ritually shell the island with propaganda leaflets to remind the Taiwanese that the civil war is still ongoing and they arent an independent nation.

Nowadays, Kinmen has the most pro-CCP taiwanese people who elect anti-independence candidates in every single election and they earn money by selling alcohol and kitchen knifes to mainland tourists.
Anonymous No.63810646 >>63810658 >>63810824
>>63810644
Nowadays, Kinmen island declares unilateral demilitarization and will join China willingly the moment the PLA marches in.
Anonymous No.63810653
>>63810355
>American oligarchs wouldn't dare risk their lives or the lives of their families like this
three of teddy roosevelt sons, joseph kennedy jr
Anonymous No.63810658 >>63810664
>>63810646
>many such chinky copes
Anonymous No.63810664 >>63810676
>>63810658
This is on Kinmen, an island controlled by Taiwan.
PRC and ROC flags are flying side by side, since they make money from mainland tourists.

Seriously no need for China to even take them by force as of now.
Anonymous No.63810673 >>63812201
>>63810353
Taoists were big on male multiple orgasms without ejaculation and minimal refractory periods (done without pressing on the perineum or by physically impeding ejaculation). The idea was that spilling seed would deplete "Jing", aka kidney chi, the life force one has a finite supply of, and different from other forms of chi that can be regenerated by lifestyle (sleep, good food, being with those you love, less stress). Women weren't seen as depleting their life force from orgasm. On the other hand, they knew that a healthy woman could delay menopause by Taoist practices and healthy lifestyle factors, which is analogous to healthier women having greater ovarian reserve.
Anonymous No.63810676 >>63810700
>>63810664
Kinmen also elects Deep Blue aka. Pro-China all the time.
Anonymous No.63810700
>>63810676
If anything, Kinmen and Matsu will become China's Donbass Republics in Taiwan the moment any pro-american puppet declares independence, because these pro-Chinese prefectures will never die for some weeb in a fight against their own kin.

https://thediplomat.com/2024/08/will-kinmen-be-taiwans-crimea/
Anonymous No.63810764 >>63812321
>>63810353
They thought having sex with lots of young women would prolong their lives.
Anonymous No.63810780
>>63809896 (OP)
>he managed to hold his own against the Japanese
He didn't face them, he just fucked off westward and waited for the Japs and Nationalists to beat each other down so he could kick over the bloodied winner.
>stalemate the US in Korea.
This is mainly due to MacArthur dropping the ball and panicking thinking the Chinese force was much, much larger than it really was. Had MacArthur actually stood his ground and held the line, they would've been broken then and there. It was essentially dumb fucking luck the Chinese got as far as they did.
>>63810355
Theodore Roosevelt literally led a horseback charge uphill through machine gun fire in Cuba, in a war he started as McKinley's Minister of War, then promptly resigned his post to serve in.
Nixon and Kennedy both served in the Navy in WW2. HW Bush was also the sole survivor of a plane crash in Chichijima in WW2, the rest of his crewmates were eaten by starving Japs turned cannibals.
Anonymous No.63810810
>>63810644
That's a whole lot of words to cope with the fact that the entire PLA landing force sent to occupy the island was destroyed by a single Stuart tank. Cry harder Chang.
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc No.63810819
>>63810514
>>63810525
>>63810550
>>63810551
Even i think this guy is bat shit crazy and i'm me.

>>63810547
Eh, if you equate 'indefinitely given a house for several generations' as defacto ownership then yes the North does have higher home ownership. The DPRK has a much higher rate of permanent housing and no taxes to speak of so there is no monetary burden. In many cases they were just given defacto ownership their plot of land when the WPK took over.

Since they have very little non service related internal mobility almost every family has a multi generational permanent residence. When a new family unit breaks off (typically the father got party membership) they are given a house that they are intended to live in permanently.

While very basic government building standards ensure that single family non urban dwellings dwellings that are 'up to code' so to speak are extremely durable being intended for use over centuries. An example is they mandate brick construction and ceramic roof tiles for new houses and repairs because they are cheap and last forever.

Having neighborhood communal bathing, washing and even cooking facilities at your greatly simplifies home construction not to mention spying on the wavering classes.
Anonymous No.63810824 >>63810851
>>63810644
>>63810646
This is desperate.
Anonymous No.63810851
>>63810824
The sole non crazy thing he said was about the kitchen knives which are rather expensive and well made.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinmen_knife
Anonymous No.63810973 >>63810992
>>63810550
What did pelosi do to make the Chinese seethe about her?
Anonymous No.63810992
>>63810973
visit Taiwan. no, i'm not joking.
Anonymous No.63811001 >>63811020
>>63810550
Whatโ€™s with Chinese people slapping themselves in frustration?
Anonymous No.63811020
>>63811001
I wish i knew, its funny as hell tho
Anonymous No.63811040
>>63810463
Dude China invaded Vietnam right after the Vietnam war and got its ass kicked by a bunch of farmers living at the border. Are you retarded?
Anonymous No.63811049 >>63811340 >>63812335
>China stan
>Turk
are we sure anon isn't Hasan Piker?
Anonymous No.63811268
>>63810463
The US was scared of the SU because nukes, they didn't want to antogonize China because retards thought we could tem up against the SU.
Anonymous No.63811340 >>63811810 >>63811817 >>63812921
>>63811049
>>China stan
>>Turk
>acknowledging china's operational success in Korea somehow makes me a China simp
besides most turks would take china overthe US, infact most of the world would take China over the US except for the Eastern euro states who are still salty about being dominated by Russia and India (lol)
Anonymous No.63811362
>>63810575
TRVE AS FVCK
Anonymous No.63811398
>>63809896 (OP)
There's a prejudice towards Mao outside of China because he was a communist (and Chinese) but as a guerrilla warfare theorist he's like what Clausewitz is to Napoleonic warfare.

Historically, guerrillas were at most a nuisance to governments, and guerrillas tended to be conservative-minded peasants who were angry at outsiders intruding into their valley and wanted them to GTFO. Mao combined these guerrilla tactics that would've been common sense to any peasant with a political strategy for the conquest of national power. He was a guerrilla leader but he was practicing militarized politics (people's war). That's the key to understand Mao. You can't seperate him from the politics, and since he was a communist, this sets people's hair on fire, but it's really that he applied "war is politics with bloodshed" to internal Chinese politics during a revolutionary period, and achieved complete control over the mainland (which Chiang never did... that guy was no Ataturk). But IMO you don't get modern guerrilla warfare without Mao.

Mao also wasn't just interested in Marxism but also traditional Chinese history like the Romance of the Three Kingdoms, and Water Margin, which is about a group of outlaws who rebel against the Northern Song dynasty. He was also fascinated by George Washington before he ever read any socialist books (because they hadn't been translated into Chinese yet). He had also practiced Buddhism when he was a teenager and his mother was a Buddhist.
Anonymous No.63811402 >>63811440 >>63811484 >>63811820 >>63813082
>>63810462
Mao represented a very Chinese kind of social utopianism. This had some points of contact with Marx/Lenin but Maoism had a strange and very un-Marxist sort of collectivist mysticism to it with a belief in all-powerful "subjective forces" (like willpower) which could move mountains and storm heaven. It's like, experts ~say~ it can't be done, but revolutionary fervor can overcome all material obstacles, and mind will transform matter.

I think this is what led to lunacies of the Maoist period. They went almost total communist in tens of thousands of "people's communes" where most aspect of people's lives were collectivized and were preparing to get rid of money. It's like willed transformation and a romantic belief in "the people" to unleash their creativity in a great march towards victory and the unification of an ancient civilization:
https://youtu.be/6UPXGfyp7XE

And he believed in high "struggle," conflict and high tension as something essential to life, and which would prevent China from lapsing back into its traditional lethargy and weakness where "Heaven changeth not, the Tao changeth not" (Chinese version of "nothing ever happens" basically). Mao is like NO WAY the revolution can only be saved from degeneration through constant struggle. Revolution could never end.

Obviously, you get some real absurdities with that philosophy, but millions of Chinese believed in it, and by third-world standards, by the end of the Mao period the Chinese weren't doing too bad.
Anonymous No.63811422
>>63810270
>with the edge of one side raised about four inches higher than the rest of the bed
huh...?
Anonymous No.63811440 >>63811484 >>63811708 >>63812408
>>63811402
>by the end of the Mao period the Chinese weren't doing too bad.
Are you fucking retarded? They did so poorly they had to abandon half of the shit they believed in just to survive, after tens of millions had died due to Mao's extreme incompetence.
Anonymous No.63811484 >>63811742 >>63812408
>>63811402
>>63811440
>tens of millions dead
>tens of thousands literally EATEN FOR FOOD
>Decisive Chinese victory!
Every time
Anonymous No.63811492
Mao was the second best strategist of all time.
The best is Xi, who did nothing but is able to dismantle the """greatest""" Empire in History and leading China to true end of history.
1000 years from now, people will still recognize the genius strategy of
>
>win
Anonymous No.63811624
>>63810576
Where to get those chest rigs?
Anonymous No.63811708 >>63811729
>>63811440
By 1970s thirdie standards, they were doing okay. You don't know how bad it was out there in much of the world. Average Chinese food consumption had risen to be around the middle of all countries, and higher than 14 countries in the Americas, and well above India, Indonesia, and most of Africa. Life expectancy had roughly doubled, as did primary school enrollment which went from 50% to being nearly universal.

The famines were a catastrophic fuck-up and millions perished due to an unscientific and rushed attempt at industrialization, but that happened in the late 50s. This was nearly 20 years later.

One reason why Deng made those reforms is that communist-style central planning was inefficient. There were terrific amounts of waste and the stagnation that was setting in was increasingly evident in all socialist countries by the late 1970s/early 1980s. Also China's rate of economic growth wasn't great, less than Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan to name a few. But like I said, they were better off than the other half. But one reason China was struggling is because Mao launched an anarchic student movement / civil war which devastated China for some time (that's the constant-renewal-through-struggle stuff I was talking about):
https://youtu.be/imZDo_CjOSQ

It was messy, but on the other hand, there were certain aspects of communism that helped lay the foundation for industrial transformation in really poor countries. The kind of militarized discipline of it and mass education (but heavily influenced by propaganda of course) did create mass literacy, which made it possible to transform these backwater peasants into factory workers who need to be able to read the instructions on what they're manufacturing or the sign that says "don't stick your arm in that." (India still struggles with literacy.) Also it's good for women's rights which is necessary for industrialization and modernization. But other than that there's not much I'd recommend.
Anonymous No.63811729 >>63811745 >>63811845
>>63811708
The cultural revolution lasted into the 70s, you fucking idiot.
Anonymous No.63811742
>>63811484
>tens of thousands literally EATEN FOR FOOD
Well maybe they looked tasty! You know China has had cannibals for thousands of years. There was some cannibalism in Deng Xiaoping's China too. One of the negatives of Deng's reforms (although overall positive) was rising crime, and there was a real risk traveling in rural China of disappearing and getting eaten in some cases by local villagers. Or so I've heard. Also all kinds of crazy cults sprouting up.

When the country was undergoing revolution and civil war, there were vast parts of it that hadn't changed much since antiquity. The place was like Morrowind. What a crazy country.
Anonymous No.63811745
>>63811729
The Great Leap Forward was late 50s/early 60s. You're mixing up different things.
Anonymous No.63811750
>>63810270
>inside you are two tigers
>neither brushes their teeth
>you have sepsis
Anonymous No.63811764
>>63810355
>winning/drawing is when your invasion entirely fails, you end up with less territory than you started with and more than twice as many of your soldiers and civilians die.
Anonymous No.63811785 >>63812350
>>63810548
By that logic america didn't lose Vietnam because they got what they wanted, a peace treaty ending the north's invasion of the south.
Anonymous No.63811810
>>63811340
>the operational success of sustaining 400,000 casualties while gaining nothing.
Anonymous No.63811817
>>63811340
>politico
Anonymous No.63811820
>>63811402
>Obviously, you get some real absurdities with that philosophy, but millions of Chinese believed in it, and by third-world standards, by the end of the Mao period the Chinese weren't doing too bad.

If you consider you population dying enough to reach a point where it can actually be sustained to be an "improvement", sure.
Anonymous No.63811845
>>63811729
BTW, I should mention, another aspect of what was going on in the 1970s is that Mao was increasingly checked out because he was old and his health was in rapid decline. He didn't make appearances very often, and his batshit wife and several other guys effectively ran the country as a really paranoid and totalitarian dictatorship. Then Mao died, there was a power struggle, and they got arrested and put on trial for having garroted various people.
Anonymous No.63811906
>>63809896 (OP)
>stalemate the US in Korea.
Given that the war was started with the goal of annexing South Korea, and that America's goal was explicitly a stalemate to protect South Korea, that's a huge failure on Mao's part...
Anonymous No.63812020 >>63812333 >>63813751
>>63810575
why is it ok to mock italians?
Anonymous No.63812062
>>63810465
Probably similar effect to putting a pillow under her back.
Or possibly to be the right height for standing missionary.
Anonymous No.63812201
>>63810673
these niggas were no-nutting before November was a thing
Anonymous No.63812243 >>63812509
>>63810270
This shit is /chug/-tier, except the "women" part.
Jesus fucking Christ.
Anonymous No.63812263
>>63810474
>China was outnumbered by the UN during their intervention.
Please read again your statement and think about it for 30 seconds, it's either a lie in which case you are arguing in bad faith, or it's truth, which means Mao was so incompetent he somehow was incapable to achieve numerical supremacy despite having a direct border with the warzone and the country with the largest population on Earth, furthermore, South Korea still exists, which simply doesn't add up to your entire narrative.
Anonymous No.63812287
>>63810500
>Vietnam suing for peace in the 90s when their economy collapsed due to constant border warfare against China,
>he goes as far as to argue it was war (with another commie country) what wrecked Vietnam and not el gommunismo.
Marxio, you know why I don't even bother further mocking you? I have never met a commie whose life hasn't been a trainwreck at multiple levels.
Anonymous No.63812321
>>63810764
being able to fuck lots of young hot women definitely gives you a reason to live. Unless you gay, then you're fucked anyways
Anonymous No.63812327
>>63810519
>China has become so reliant on western investment Vietnam no longer has to fear shit about them, and the participants pf the parade then went to eat at US franchise restaurants.
You know, pretending you were saved from something which was never going to happen is kinda funny when you think about it.
>>63810622
So I was checking the rest of the thread and yeah, he is literally citing how "globohomo" made his life better while supporting the "communist" China.
Anonymous No.63812333 >>63812337
>>63812020
tehy're not real
Anonymous No.63812335
>>63811049
China shills are most likely 3rd world shitters from Pakistan and the likes. Anti China shills are most likely poos.
Actual humans can enjoy the hardware and the memes without getting butthurt.
Anonymous No.63812337
>>63812333
Anonymous No.63812350
>>63811785
Is it really a win if your' supposed victory condition wasn't achieved by you but because it's something your' enemy was doing anyway because they got tired of slapping the shit out of you? Also communists can never truly win as they have no souls.
Anonymous No.63812408 >>63812450
>>63811440
>>63811484
it's easy to be critical in hind sight, but China before Mao was literally practicing africa/India tier subhuman culture. I'm almost inclined to believe he fucked up shit on purpose just to stamp out that gay shit for good.
Anonymous No.63812450 >>63812804 >>63813760
>>63812408
>I'm almost inclined to believe he fucked up shit on purpose just to stamp out that gay shit for good.
He did. Read about "ghost marriages," which is when a family's son dies before he can get married, so they dig up a female corpse to have a wedding so they can be together in the afterlife and not come back to haunt their ancestors. Or, more disturbingly, buy someone else's daughter, kill her, and then have a wedding. These practices were not wiped out completely and you can occasionally read stories about this dark age stuff happening in very rural parts of China.

Mao was very, very radical. He actually became more radical the older he got, and there are some theories he was frustrated by the pace of change. He had a philosophy that destruction of all things was inevitable because it's how new things come into being. He'd give talks like, who's to say mankind will not be destroyed? But what will replace mankind is something more advanced than mankind. Or he'd say Marxism (to provoke people) would also die one day but be replaced by something more advanced than Marxism.
Anonymous No.63812509
>>63812243
This shit is pretty well documented even by Chinese sources, Mao had terrible fucking hygiene and health.
Anonymous No.63812605
>>63809896 (OP)
I love Mao. He is my hero. He killed more Chinese than any other man.
Anonymous No.63812804
>>63812450
>Not having a ghost GF and a loli to take care of you in old age

Are Asians even trying?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War_widows_who_survived_into_the_21st_century
Anonymous No.63812921 >>63812939 >>63812940 >>63812946 >>63813232 >>63813356 >>63814654 >>63814720
>>63811340
>western europe, canada, new zealand more pro-china than pro-us
what a load kek
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc No.63812939
>>63812921
He is a idiot. The PRC exists because they haven't pissed off Kim enough.
Anonymous No.63812940
>>63812921
How new are you? New Zealand is practically a Chinese colony
Anonymous No.63812946 >>63812950 >>63814654
>>63812921
china didn't threaten to annex Canada
Anonymous No.63812950 >>63812955
>>63812946
No, they're actively doing it through real estate.
Anonymous No.63812955
>>63812950
don't you just love capitalism?
Anonymous No.63813082 >>63813192
>>63811402
>They went almost total communist in tens of thousands of "people's communes" where most aspect of people's lives were collectivized and were preparing to get rid of money.
how can they do something so hopeless yet so based
Anonymous No.63813192
>>63813082
An interesting thing about that BTW is how peacefully (well, relatively speaking) they did it compared to forced collectivization in Russia.
Anonymous No.63813232
>>63812921
> how could Canada & NZ be pro ch*nese
Anonymous No.63813356
>>63812921
In which year do you think you are?
Anonymous No.63813751
>>63812020
It's not mockery and I'm allowed to say it as a ROMAN MED BVLL who has faced discrimination and harassment from lesser races due to my superior heritage
Anonymous No.63813760
>>63812450
>Or he'd say Marxism (to provoke people) would also die one day but be replaced by something more advanced than Marxism.
UPHOLD MAOISM-POSADISM-JOHNCLILLYISM
Anonymous No.63813846
>>63809896 (OP)
>FDR admin: so infested with Reds (and Brits) the Manhattan Project is compromised
>Cousin-Fucker's Wife Eleanor's Red China penpal - Gregory Silvermaster ran one of the largest postwar spy rings (faking a British accent)
>Worst General of the War Stillwell took pains to refuse coordination and assistence with Shek's Nationalists

Reds & Mao - like the stolen Resistance valor communist French whom swarmed De Gaulle postwar - proactively sat out hostilities with the Imperal Japanese Army to sweep in only at the last gasp. The Sino-Vietnamese blowout follows from his cargo cultist bullshit--- but he can be credited for being the first Chinaman to abjure Sun Tzu for Clausewitz.
Anonymous No.63814654 >>63814686
>>63812921
>western europe, canada, new zealand
>pro-us
Have you seen how those fucking laggards talk about us?
Scratch that, have you looked at their demographics lately? Or how many Chinese agents their governments openly court?
>>63812946
We wouldn't have to threaten that if they weren't actively trying to stab us in the back. Fuck em all, whining traitors who want free gibs while they court the enemy. They did the same shit with Russian gas, actively empowering Russia while screeching about how WE have to stop them.
Anonymous No.63814686
>>63814654
Trying way too hard there pidor
t.euro
Anonymous No.63814703 >>63814874 >>63818022
>>63809896 (OP)
>For all his faults, he managed to hold his own against the Japanese,
He let the nationalists do the fighting agaist the japanese.
>>63809896 (OP)
>stalemate the US in Korea
He used Korea to genocide anyone in the Chinas population who HAD fought the japanese and might act as a counter to his insanity his long march cabal and their and famines and muder. He quite literally made the men who fought the japanese charge into artillery blowing trumpets to establish complete control over the PLA by the CCP. He was brilliant at making himself an all powerful dictator to the detriment of every other person i China.
Anonymous No.63814720 >>63814725
>>63812921
>>western europe, canada, new zealand more pro-china than pro-us
>what a load kek
At this point after the oval office thing with zelensky, foloowed by the tariff shit on the EU while it is rearming Ukraine, probably yes. America in in that ierd club of strong man dictatorships now, its not really considered anything to do with post WW2 US any more, more as a post morality shithole lie INdia, Russia or China. Modern USA would fit well into the BRICS half its populations worldview is shaped by the kremlin (at least), it is there happening every day on /pol/
Anonymous No.63814725
>>63814720
I'd say that they/we are more anti-Trump than anti-US or pro-chinks
the problem being that with Trump getting a second term it's starting to rub off on the US in general
but when he leaves office and he isn't replaced by one of his dickriders that will buff out quite fast
Anonymous No.63814874 >>63816154
>>63814703
>He let the nationalists do the fighting agaist the japanese.
Well you could say the U.S. let the communists do the fighting on the Eastern Front. But it's more like yes but also no. There were 400,000 communist troops organized in their own army called the Eighth Route Army, which was nominally under KMT command and didn't wear red stars on their uniforms but had their own commanders like Zhu De. The CCP plays them up for propaganda reasons in T.V. dramas and the like, and anti-CCPers say the communists didn't do any fighting.
Anonymous No.63815642
>>63809940
>>63809904
That describes Chiang Kai Shek too.
Anonymous No.63815941
>>63810644
>we deliberately failed to take it
Kek
Anonymous No.63816154
>>63814874
There was also the New Fourth Army with another ~200,000 troops that were nominally under the nationalist command, but was made up of and commanded by communists.
Anonymous No.63818022 >>63818028
>>63814703
>>63809896 (OP)

Was Korea worth the cost of losing his heir?
Anonymous No.63818028
>>63818022
I think he his baldness was just bad genes.