Look at the fucking lengths the yuro will go to just to avoid using a marlin 336 in .30-30
Honestly it's even weirder to me because I'm pretty sure Arthur Savage was legally a bong (died in 1938 so he was never legally a CUKC) so a savage 99 would be a bong rifle.
It's also weird how yuros hate slide/pump actions when bongs had some early patents on slide actions, even though Spencer and Browning produced the first commercially successful and thus real pump guns and yuros love the shit out of semi auto shotguns
>Browning designed the first ever commercially successful semi auto shotgun
and over unders
>browning designed the first ever over under shotgun

>>63813878 (OP)
They had much earlier access to bolt action rifles than Americans and they have the nicest double rifles known to man. No culture around lever actions ever formed over there, I wouldn’t waste my time with them either. Besides, anyone who can afford a Krieghoff isn’t going to waste time with a garbage tier 336.

>>63813890
levers are based. lever actions are the white man's gun given to us from god himself via JMB

>>63813895
That's funny because their first successful advertising campaign was the Injuns (supposedly) using them to demolish certain general Custer and his sortie (the happenstance of which the Injuns themselves have no clear recollections but they don't protest much because a win is a win - even if imaginary kek)

>>63813878 (OP)
Lever actions were mostly considered cowboy movie props throughout last century.
>so a savage 99 would be a bong rifle.
Nobody cares. You might as well say that Ruger No.1 is a bong rifle because it's a Farquharson design.
>yuros hate slide/pump actions when bongs had some early patents on slide actions,
Pump action is a half measure viable when quality ammo is hard to get.
>>63813890
This. And there's no state-enforced bottleneck cartridge restriction.

>>63814049
>Nobody cares.
a yuro man personally designed the exact make and model, faggot
>Pump action is a half measure viable when quality ammo is hard to get.
you faggots dont have semi auto rifles. how would the ammo quality differ for a bolt vs pump vs the gay shit you use
>This. And there's no state-enforced bottleneck cartridge restriction.
.30-30 is bottle necked like .30-06, .303 bong and 7mm mauser

>>63813878 (OP)
In individual hunting, you're going to be walking all day and taking one or two shots, I understand.

>>63814100
>a yuro man personally designed the exact make and model, faggot
I just took a big steaming yuro shit
clearly this means we should all make like pajeets and switch over to a shit based life style
now go and bait somewhere else

>>63813878 (OP)
A new Marlin costs at least 1k € in my cunt, the fuck you want from me?

>>63814138
you are a no gunz jeet, you fucking faggot. all yuro posters are no gunz indian diaspora.
>>63814113
yuros use straight pulls for driven game hunts, I'd assume for a fast follow up shot

>>63813878 (OP)
Levers are gay and so are you. I will continue to use a Mauser in 9.3x62.

>>63814100
>you faggots dont have semi auto rifles
Explain why I have 4 + handguns
Ironically I also live in the one Euro country where lever actions aren't unheard of

>>63814100
>you faggots dont have semi auto rifles
Sauer 303, Benelli Argo, different AK/AR types... There's Europe and then there's another Europe.

>>63814223
Half the seethe towards yurop on here comes from a place of genuine belief that the entirety of Europe is like bongland, it's quite hilarious. Like 1/4 of the continent has legitimately very good gun laws, and another half has passable ones which allow you to buy most semi autos, handguns, calibers, etc. Very few yuro cunts are actually like bongland. Not that I expect retards like him to actually be interested in gun politics of course, he's just here to seethe and dilate.

>>63813961
No clear recollections of? There were plenty of first hand accounts as well as drawings made by Lakota warriors that were there. Also a lot of first hand accounts from men under Benteen & Reno’s command.

If you want a 30-30 lever gun in Europe you can have one. But 30-30 is old and expensive compared to lots of newer cartridges and there are dozens of civilian or military surplus calibers and rifles to chose from that beat it on performance and price.

>>63814100
What a retarded fucking retard you are. Post guns.

>>63814154
mauser invented the bolt action rifle so he could fuck his own ass like a faggot
>>63814176
>>63814223
then why do you use gay shit like straight pulls ?

>>63814311
If you are shooting within 100-150 yards for driven game it doesn't matter

>>63814546
eat shit you brown queer
>>63814264
nah, it's because yuros are generally insufferable left wing faggots

>>63814100
The one time euros aren't being faggots and you have to antagonize them because you're addicted to low effort repetitive flag banter. Go play in traffic retard.

>>63814908
yuros are always being gay retards, you gay retard

>>63814745
Straight pulls are cool when they're not gay spinny lever bullshit like the Impulse.
>t. gun-owning American

>>63814936
nah, straight pulls are a homosexual action

>>63813961
Their first successful advertising campaign was the Civil War you fucking goober

OP is the same redneck shart from this thread >>63804723 with some inexplicable hardon for pumpslop. You've already been BTFO, what are you still doing here?

>>63815051
why did you specifically link to the post of me blowing your retarded ass out where you claim lever guns need rimmed cartridges. even the marlin 336 with the tube mag can use .35 rem which is rimless.
yuros are no gunz no education

>>63814176
>one Euro country where lever actions aren't unheard of
Spain?

>>63813878 (OP)
Some euro countries, Germany in particular, have a bunch of retarded laws which essentially make it illegal or impractical to hunt with conventional rifles, and these laws have changed a bunch of times. That's why European manufacturers release these retarded mechanisms.

That being said, outside continental America lever actions were never popular.

>>63815209
the nazis have a law that says they need to shoot reverse pump actions?

>>63814755
Then why bother pointing that out. Europe has all types of hunting.

>>63815299
because the justification they always give on jewtube for straight pulls is driven game

>>63815252
They have rules about when an action can be closed/complete, when an action can be "loaded" (and there's a legal definition which created novel designs), when an action can be cocked. Also actions need to have a de-cocking mechanism which doesn't involve a trigger pull. This is all ostensibly for "safety", but really it's just a game of hurdles to make hunting more annoying and expensive.

Basically, you can't legally walk through the woods in Germany with a lever action on half-cock, even if it has a manual safety. In fact in most places you can't even track or stalk, the only hunting permitted/licensed is driven hunting. A hunting license in Germany, for most Germans, is a permission slip to stand in a pre-determined position, with a very expensive rifle, while people you have paid a lot of money to drive game with dogs, 2-3 times a year. You don't just own "a gun", and drive to the edge of some public woodland, walk in, and shoot a deer.

>>63815180
Finland
They're relatively common here, mostly .45-70 though because the local fudds mostly hunt moose and think .30-30 is only suitable for durr. There are lots of .30-30 and .25-20 rifles on the market if you care to own one though

>>63815516
that's what cap and ball does in hungry. he just walks out into the woods with some black powder lever gun and blasts animals

>>63815557
Hungary is based, I'm talking mostly about Germany.

>>63813878 (OP)
It's all a response to terrible gun/hunting laws, but some of the designs are a real mechanical flex. I do enjoy the creativity.

>>63814756
>nah, it's because yuros are generally insufferable left wing faggots
I laugh at you in affordable universal health care and social safety nets.
While cleaning my Tikka bolt action rifle and my Korth revolver.

>>63814756
we euros dont count UK or half of France or Germany to be Europe anymore

>>63816153
>I laugh at you in affordable universal health care and social safety nets.
You retards pay for this shit when you get raped by taxes you fuckwit.

>>63816227
lmao Americans spend way more on healthcare

>>63816153
tika and korth are ass. and tax payer healthcare is gay
>>63816212
kek

I think it's more that there are a lot of master gunsmiths in that part of the world who gets to be more creative.
In the US it just needs to shoot straight, be cheap as possible to produce, and that's our market for the most part

>>63814914
You devote too much mental energy toward Europeans

That's a cool action, reminds me of Burgess. probably very well made, too. I understand that in some countries hunting is kind of niche, so low production run, high cost but you get what you pay for type deal? It would be cool to get those imported to the US.

>>63817719
there are too many yuros on this board/website. I think like half the jannies are yuros. that's why all bans come down between 4 and 9 am and why there are like 80 ukraine threads and yuros are allowed to call people amerimutts and shit up threads with communist politics but you get an instant all boards ban for calling yuros subhumans

>>63815209
>have a bunch of retarded laws which essentially make it illegal or impractical to hunt with conventional rifles,
Are you fucking retarded? What do you consider a "conventional" rifle?
I hunt with a regular bolt-action rifle because it is cheap and easy to maintain. Is that not a "conventional" rifle? I could also hunt with any kind of semi-auto if I wanted (including a .50 cal Barrett, if it didn't cost >7k €).
In fact I go after fox with my Mini-14, and I could use that on e.g. roe deer too. Why a Mini-14? Because fuck you, that's why (and because all gay-ar fans are the biggest faggots you can come across and I really don't want to be associated with them).
Any more retardation you can spout?

>>63815209
>have a bunch of retarded laws which essentially make it illegal or impractical to hunt with conventional rifles,
Are you fucking retarded? What do you consider a "conventional" rifle?
I hunt with a regular bolt-action rifle because it is cheap and easy to maintain. Is that not a "conventional" rifle? I can also hunt with any kind of semi-auto if I wanted.
In fact I go after fox with my Mini-14, and I could use that on e.g. roe deer too. Why a Mini-14? Because fuck you, that's why (and because all gay-ar fans are the biggest faggots you can come across and I really don't want to be associated with them).
Any more retardation you can spout?

>>63815516
>They have rules about when an action can be closed/complete, when an action can be "loaded" (and there's a legal definition which created novel designs), when an action can be cocked. Also actions need to have a de-cocking mechanism which doesn't involve a trigger pull. This is all ostensibly for "safety", but really it's just a game of hurdles to make hunting more annoying and expensive.
>Basically, you can't legally walk through the woods in Germany with a lever action on half-cock, even if it has a manual safety. In fact in most places you can't even track or stalk, the only hunting permitted/licensed is driven hunting.
>A hunting license in Germany, for most Germans, is a permission slip to stand in a pre-determined position, with a very expensive rifle, while people you have paid a lot of money to drive game with dogs, 2-3 times a year.

bullshit

>>63815516
That's all bullshit and you have no idea what you are talking about.

>>63818935
to elaborate:
you're supposed to unload your rifle when crossing obstacles for insurance reasons, that is all. Actions don't need a de-cocking mechanism which doesn't involve a trigger pull.
You can stalk or track game, but sitting in a blind is the most common type of hunting.

>>63818954
He probably heard of safety precaucions during group hunts and thought it was the law or something.

>>63818954
He probably heard of safety precautions during group hunts and thought it was the law or something.

>>63818859
>ARfags are homosexuals
this sounds like sour grapes

>>63819488
nice reading comprehension, faggot

>>63819497
a. I don't read posts written by gay retards in full
b. we don't sign our posts here, it is against the rules

>>63819553
If you were white you would just admit that you were wrong. But hey, great comeback, lil brownoid.

>>63819611
Global rule 13. You are going to get banned if you keep signing your posts like that

>>63819626
Awww look at the little seething spook

>>63819694
>last post gets deleted for violating rule 13
>keeps signing posts against the rules
you aren't very smart, are you?

>>63819724
>little faggot gets so butthurt he reports a post for some made-up bullshit
>faggot mod plays along because he's also a faggot
Holy shit just when I thought mods on /k/ couldn't get any faggier. What happened, mod, didn't take your hormones today?

>>63819733
you are one angry homosexual eunuch, aren't you?

>>63814756
I find it funny that Euros are considered leftwing.
Apparently controlling corporations to stop them fucking the people economically is left wing.
Wanting more than 4 days of holidays a year is left wing.
Wanting universal healthcare is left wing.
Apparently.
Rational policy is left wing.
These aren't really left right issues, they're just worker concessions.

If you are unwilling to be the lowest slave for your work, you are left wing.
Kek.

The only true left wing in Europe is the immigrant loving fucks that keep importing the middle east, and they're only doing it so they can control the entire middle east through expansion in 100 years

>>63814756
kek. Lever action guns and mental illness, two peas in a pod. Get a real hunting rifle, not a cowboy larp gun.

>>63819777
lefties don't want to control corporations, they just want dei slop. right wingers like teddy roosevelt were anti corpo, retardo.
Notice how corporations and lefties align on literally every single issue?
>>63819801
more durr have been killed with .30-30 lever guns than whatever homosexual no gunz shit you have

>>63819777
shalom

>>63813878 (OP)
The ".30-30 fast follow up shots" niche for driven boar hunts is entirely taken by the SKS and unholy vz.58 fudd conversions lol
t. Czech

>>63815541
I heard finns still have a bunch of the russian contract 1895s that we sold them. I'm a little jealous.

>>63813878 (OP)
it's just old man autism, if you want something quick and still "manual action" just get a blaser r8

>>63819777
>Apparently controlling corporations to stop them fucking the people economically is left wing.
yeah, by YOU controlling them, you mean they run you to the point where they tried to make it illegal to farm?

>>63823818
>that we sold them
Ngr we captured them in the first place

>>63816153
> I laugh at you in affordable universal health care and social safety nets.
While cleaning my Tikka bolt action rifle and my Korth revolver.


I can literally get a gun right and carry it with no license or permit required

>>63816153
>I laugh at you in affordable universal health care and social safety nets.

You pay for the affordable universal healthcare with a fat chunk taken off every single paycheck, you still have to pay for half of the treatments out of pocket, and the social safety nets (that you also happen to pay for) are mostly abused by brownoid rapefugees and other unproductive cretins who just pop out similarly useless kids.
t. fellow Euro gun owner

>>63813961
>Little Big Horn denialism
Lmao.

>>63825515
And you pay more for your retarded Byzantine system. Literally massive amounts of gdp plowed into your healthcare system just to get literal third world results.

>>63813878 (OP)
American "hunters" have literally nothing they could teach Europeans about hunting.
Lever actions absolutely reek of peasant-class budget shooting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWYLIrwcDpI&t=46s

>>63825655
Are you illiterate? I'm a Euro. Literally 11% of my every paycheck goes towards social and health insurance (this is on top of the 35% extra that my employer pays for these things on my behalf AND the actual 15% income tax AND 21% VAT), i.e. roughly hald of my income directly funds fat fuck diabeetus heart surgeries and gypsy stay at home moms raising her little thieves' guild of 12.
I have 0 say in any of this and if I become unemployed, I have to outright *pay the government* social and health insurance out of a (theoretical) minimum wage I am *not* receiving at the moment.
I'd take the burger system in a heartbeat.

>>63813878 (OP)
>Look at the fucking lengths the yuro will go to just to avoid using a marlin 336 in .30-30
Nobody even thinks about that.
>It's also weird how yuros hate slide/pump actions
It's weird because you made it up.
>yuros love the shit out of semi auto shotguns
???

>Look at the fucking lengths the mutt will go to just to avoid using a Luger pistol action

>>63823832
>getting a gay pull
no way fag
>>63825655
the US has better 5 and 10 year cancer survival rates. brock lesner almost died due to shitty universal healthcare in canada and had to be smuggled into the US to get real health care

>>63825703
>yuro thinks only the landed gentry should be allowed to own guns
lever guns are cool, homo. bolt actions are a faggot action. that's why there are no domestic bolt action designs in the US that aren't just slightly modified stolen designs
>>63825725
>raising her little thieves' guild of 12
top kek

>>63825774
luger pistols are shit and week, yuropoor
>It's weird because you made it up.
see>>63825703 and >>63814154
>???
the spaghetti fags make semi auto shotguns and even the bongs use semi auto shotguns

>>63813895>>63813878 (OP)
>>63813878 (OP)
>yuro
>>63813895
>the white man

you're quite stupid

>>63827656
JMB was white. Americans are white.
yuros on the otherhand

>>63826751
>that's why there are no domestic bolt action designs in the US that aren't just slightly modified stolen designs
Ah I see, you're legitimately insane.

>>63827689
What bolt actions actually have American designs and aren't just pirated mausers or pirated push feed mausers with modified extractors to be cheaper?

>>63827656
yuros arent white you indian. all yuros are indian diaspora

>>63813895
Yeah, for noguns who don't hunt

>>63827791
see>>63814756
I already posted gunz, faggot. .30-30 is one of the most popular durr cartridges in the US

>>63823616
NGL, I love this. Can the conversion parts be bought online? Based on the trigger set up, it's going to be fairly complicated, but I can't see any new trigger pin holes

>>63826751
>yuro thinks only the landed gentry should be allowed to own guns
As opposed to a Cletus like you who gut shots every single animal? Yes, absolutely.
You simply do not possess the skills, intellect or moral values.
https://www.wect.com/2023/11/08/hunters-charged-with-trespassing-onto-private-property-two-charged-with-assault-homeowner/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chai_Vang
Americans are absolute clowns, behaving like Africans in the bush stumbling upon another tribe of savages.

>that's why there are no domestic bolt action designs in the US that aren't just slightly modified stolen designs
No, it's because every time you design one it is a failure. Easier to copy a German design, mimicry is the purest form of compliment after all.

>>63813878 (OP)
Yeah yuos don't ever use a Marlin 336 in .30-30...

>>63827972
look at this shit eating jeet (all yuros are indian diaspora) seething because the US doesnt have a caste system like his third world yuro shithole
all yuros want gun control

>>63827698
>What bolt actions actually have American designs and aren't just pirated mausers or pirated push feed mausers with modified extractors to be cheaper?

>>63827920
Unfortunately I'm pretty sure the company that did these went bankrupt over a decade ago.
I have one of their vz.61 semi conversions.

>>63828026
>all yuros want gun control

Correct, I want to be in control of all the guns.

>>63825725
The burger system sounds cool until you or a family member gets a serious illness
That's literally what a universal system is best at, you don't get people who run from ambulances when you can get airlifted into a hospital and spend two weeks in the ICU with major surgeries and pay €500 for all of it. Pretty sure no commercial health insurance would cover that much

>>63830379
just don't be a poor

>>63817073
lolbertarian brainrot

>>63832402
you are one sad communist

>>63830379
"Just accept being robbed for decades on the off chance you have a grave accident or get some unicorn syndrome"
Also I'm pretty sure there are commercial insurance plans that cover that much.
And they were far more affordable before Obamacare dropped and the insurance companies hiked rates for everyone to compensate.

>>63830379
America has forms of socialized healthcare, just not one for everyone. If you're disabled/retarded, served in the military, old, or extremely poor, then you qualify for some form of state-funded healthcare.

t. Disabled/retarded

Thread tax: VZ58s actually look cool customized/sporterized.

>>63813878 (OP)

>>63830363
Unfortunate, I thought it looked pretty good.