Thread 63813993

I love HAMMER missiles

Ahem the AASM (French: Armement Air-Sol Modulaire, lit.'Modular Air-to-Ground Armament'), also known as AASM Hammer are actually more like a rocket-assisted bomb!

>>63814007
>rocket-assisted bomb
rocket-assisted bomb don't have guidance, the moment you give them guidance they become missiles

>>63813993 (OP)
>blowing up another children's hospital

>lose your A-50s
>suddenly AASMs start hammering you
>your shills still claim that they wre the non-operational ones
kek

>>63814013
Arrows and sling balls are missiles.

>>63814033
>AASM Hammer
>has rocket engine, has bomb, has guidance
>missile
>has rocket engine, has bomb, has guidance
THEY ARE LITERALLY NOTHING ALIKE

>>63814007
If an AGM-123 is a missile, AASM is a missile

>>63814042
I think the big difference is that you need to go really fast to get the hammer to actually fly a decent distance - the range extension kit only gives it a bit of a boost to help it glide farther - whereas a rocket gets most of its range from its own propulsion

>>63814056
>the big difference is that you need to go really fast to get the hammer to actually fly a decent distance
the big difference between what?

>>63814056
See >>63814054 AGM-123 was considered a missile despite it being nothing more than a Paveway with a rocket stuck on it

>>63814042
>>63814056
as an example consider the anemic engines on early jets - they took forever to get up to speed but once they're going they can go pretty fast, because the engine only needs to counteract drag.

in this case, the rocket probably amounts to a wet fart if you try to launch the bomb from a standstill and wastes most of its delta V accelerating the thing, but when you toss it from a fighter jet it can counteract energy loss to drag because the bomb is very sleek and doesn't have very much resistance to begin with.

>>63814062
between something sold as a missile and something sold as a rocket-assisted bomb

see >>63814067

>>63814067
>in this case, the rocket probably amounts to a wet fart if you try to launch the bomb from a standstill
So just like any short range missile? Just look at range of Brimstone or AIM-9 from jet and then from ground.
You're literally making up non-related definitions when you already have definition what rocket assisted bomb is and missile

>>63814067
by your definition javelin is rocket assisted bomb

>>63813993 (OP)
Oh is this a JDAM kit for baguettes? Damn, that's cool.

The fact that you can launch them from below the horizon and let the rocket motor carry them closer to the target is very comfy.

>>63814097
unrelated by I find it hilarious how many flat earther shizos exist despite fact that radar horizon is a thing. Imagine every military in the world gimping their radars to not see past certain range just to maintain lie that moon landing never happened

>>63814105
They wouldn't say the military gimps their radars, their cope would be that the radar waves just stop after a certain point because of atmospheric scattering or something.

>>63814105
Believing in the Flat Earth conspiracy theory has nothing to do with evidence or rational thinking. It's a delusion cooked up for the especially arrogant, specifically those who pride themselves on supposedly knowing how things REALLY work.
That said, I'm pretty sure you could say the same thing about a lot of conspiracy theories and the people who buy into them.

>>63814112
Ninings leven?

>>63814032
how are the A-50s so important? not even russia is so retarded that they can't stick a radar dome on an airplane. plus they still have like 4 A-50s left anyway

>>63814105
Explain how the pecking bird was able to detect American icbms from moscow then.

Missle launched, bomb dropped.
Hammers being dropped.
Prove me right.

>>63814130
>not even russia is so retarded that they can't stick a radar dome on an airplane
zero produced AWACS in puccia post soviet collapse

>>63814130
>they still have like 4 A-50s left anyway

>>63814163
>it's not that they can't, it's because they don't want to

>>63814163
It's not because they don't want to, it's because they can't

>>63814097
This horizon trick wouldn't work as well as it currently does if they had their A-50s still flying like they used to

>>63814007
Shuddup doofus or ill put your head in the toilet again

>>63814130
>not even russia is so retarded that they can't stick a radar dome on an airplane
They've been working on the new A-100 to replace them for almost two decades now, but the project hasn't made much progress in the past 10 years after Russia got sanctioned for Crimea, the UK spy poisoning incident and probably some other retarded monkecraft I can't remember right now. Guess they just can't make some of the more advanced electronics and other aircraft components.
The 2022 sanctions may have killed the project like >>63814167 says.

Dropped by M16s or Mirage or what?

>>63814032
those A-50s were indeed withdrawn from service, you don't remove all engines from an airframe because in post soviet countries they usually are mixed and matched over the entire fleet and have different service lives
they have so few operational A-50s after two were shot down and two damaged that they can only fly one patrol at a time, near belgorod or over azov sea
if they fly the north patrol they won't get any low altitude tracks on the south front and vice versa

>>63814192
Mirages and Mig-29/Su-27.

>>63814192
F-16 and MiG-29

>>63814130
>not even russia is so retarded that they can't stick a radar dome on an airplane
Huh? Aren't radars complex and expensive even for first world countries?

>>63814163
lol

>>63814193
>you don't remove all engines from an airframe
You actually do, it's a common servicing & maintenance operation for a ton of places, including the IL-76 on which the A-50 is based on.

>>63814130
Because Ukraine was the USSR's brain trust.

Looks like a school or a hospital

>>63814032
>Suddenly
They've been using them for almost 2 years.

>>63814505
if you haven't noticed sheer volume of HAMMER/GBU-39 or Jdams dropped has risen significantly is past few months. Tetkino is being level almost entirely by HAMMER/GBU-39

*READS YOUR MIND*

YES. THERE IS AN ASS ORIENTED INTERPRETATION OF THE AASM CRONYM.

>>63814503
Cute oink, now back to the trench ivan

>>63814521
this can't be real

>>63814548
It's not. A zigger would've spelled it "Volchansk" for starters.

>>63813993 (OP)
Those are 250 kilo right? is that enough to kill whatever vatnik is on the ground floor? What about the basement?

>>63814503
It's okay when our fascists do it.

>>63814521
>Anal Anguish Sadism Machine
ngl, the pidors are really good with the ass references

>>63814192
From an ipad

>>63814509
They could well be using a saved up operational reserve, they could have been given greater numbers from France and the US, it's not really something that we can judge simply on released footage of TetKino unfortunately.

>>63814554
It's been translated... that's what the lighter bars are.

>>63814521
Hey, it's the same wordsmith who brought us pic related.

>>63814581
You also need to consider that the acronym would be completely different in russian.

>>63814026
There weren't enough secondaries for that.

>>63814105
Evolutionist spotted.

>>63813993 (OP)
What blew up here?

>>63814042
Ehm actually they’re called rocket motors, not engines

>>63814606
Good baitpost

>>63814584
god's forgotten poet

>>63814624
The irony is, there are people here posting monke Putin memes while at the same time insisting that they are monkeys themselves.

>>63814192
M16A2 to be exact. A little dated to some people but perfect for others.

>>63814509
>>63814575
Didn't they get like 600 of them last year?
That rocket booster might have an expiry date, so it's nice the French and Ukies found a use for the old stocks.

>>63813993 (OP)
>buildings fucking gutted
i wonder if this is what russia thinks their missile spam does...

>>63814130
>not even russia is so retarded that they can't stick a radar dome
what radar domes?
>>63814105
>>63814109
These sheep don't even know about bendy light

>>63814056
It doesn't give it any boost. The gasses from the rocket engine just fill in the wake of the bomb, giving it a sort of virtual boat tail.

>>63814167
Didn't they build two prototypes already? Did they not actually have the radars installed, or did the radars not work, or what? Even if they still had some problems, it seems like the two prototypes would be closer to operational than trying to piece together two functioning planes from all the scrap in the boneyard.

>>63814898
That's called base bleed, and the AASM does not use that.

>>63814192
No, by FAMAS

>>63814606
I think my least favorite flat farther argument is this one kek, so good bait.
I tend to reply with anaologies like "if you had 500 vibrating balls in a box they don't magically jump out of a 2m tall box even if some get pretty high, the balls at the bottom have less space to move than the balls bouncing around the top, this is how density works.

They either think vacuum sucks things (it doesn't, air is like a liquid breaching into a submarine its just trying to escape from its own pressure in the gravity well) or they fundamentally misunderstand how gravity works on atoms too. They don't understand that the air molecules bounce off themselves to get pretty high in the gravity well, some even escape thanks to being given enough energy from solar rays to escape.

>>63814660
A fanta can doesn't have enough mass to keep the air in unfortunately, it's held together by the container which then breaches like a submarine but backwards.
A planet does have the gravity to hold that gas down. Any gas too far away from the gravity to not be held down either falls back down or gets lost to space, but anything closer stays with the planet.
The sun is gaseous plasma, you can watch the gas fly up and fall down yourself by watching it with a solar telescope.
If you are the /pol/x/ schizo kill yourself retard.

>>63814917
no access to Western tech to finish them

>>63814130
>4 A-50s

>>63814112
Yes, though there's also an element of justifying existing prejudices (A bad thing happened, I don't like the Swiss, the Swiss must have caused a bad thing to happen) and a desire for there to be some narrative purpose and control in the world (If the Swiss are behind all the bad things in the world, I can work to make the world a better place by fighting the Swiss. It couldn't be that bad things sometimes happen to good people for no reason and there's no one to blame, then I'd have to reckon with my own insignificance in the face of forces beyond my, or any, control!).

Unrelated pic to make post on-topic

>>63814207
They are but its something they figured out nearly 50 years ago

>>63815177
>decided to check his channel
>he's fat as fuck now

sad

>>63815110
>no access to Western tech to finish them
This. They were supposed to be built on the new Il-76MD-90A with carbon fiber structures, a glass cockpit, new avionics, fairly modern engines incorporating US and European components, etc.
I don't think they can assemble any more of those. Project over. Back to the drawing board.

>>63814056
No. Rockets (at least if your discussing AIR launched munitions) also need a big speed boost.
Most of those huge ranges you are thinking about are from being launched while the carrier vehicle is doing mach 1.

Here's a fun tidbit : Most pidor advertised rockets are measured while the launching vehicle is doing mach 2 at 20 thousand meters...
In reality look at the ground launched R-27ET - 10 km range

MWAHAHAHAHA the French... ordnance

>>63814026
>blowing up another children's hospital full of zigger officers
FTFY.

>>63814130
>they still have like 4 A-50s left anyway
three of those have prolly be scrapped for vodka money with thr crew shipped off to the front

>>63814130
>not even russia is so retarded that they can't stick a radar dome on an airplane
(You), however, are so retarded as to think that stickign a radar dome on an airplane is all that's needed to get a working AWACS.

Also, no, the russkies actually can't. Becuase they can't even make the relevant radars anymore and anyone with the skills to stick them to a plane is either dead or busy dying slowly in what passes for the russian pensioner system.

>>63814503
7 gazillion dead donbaboonian children please understand

>>63814660
*yawn* gas is gravitationally bound to the planet, the strength of gravity is stronger then the outward diffusion pressure of atmosphere. light elements such as elemental hydrogen and helium actually do escape into space all the time.
but this doesn’t matter because flat earthers don’t believe in gravity so therefore there’s nothing keeping gas as part of the planet

>>63813993 (OP)
Imagine showing this strike to WW2 bomber command.

The ass hammer bomb

>>63813993 (OP)
What exactly got blown up in there? Other Anon didn't get an answer.

>>63814094
>JDAM kit for baguettes
A bit more than that. Its purpose made so performs better.

Also the official from term is Le Jedamuex.

https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1932593803028017342
More Hammerkino.
Is it me, or do these strikes happen more often now?

>>63814094
>JDAM kit for baguettes
j'daime

>>63814584
Truly one of ziggerstan's greatest poets.

>>63816411
Supposedly a Russian base also housing EW / drone jammer gear.
The Ukie telegram post says they've been using GBU-62 (the winged JDAM-ER kit?), AASM HAMMER 250 and GBU-39 (Small Diameter Bomb) with success. Not sure which strike used which.
Here's a longer video I found, in any case.

are many small bombs better than big bomb?

>>63816522
Bruh, that depends on the use case and target you have in mind

>>63815934
They would lose bladder control at the same time as opening their wallet.

>>63816522
Big bada boom or area denial?

>>63813993 (OP)
>light comes out of the hole in the roof but not the windows
How does that work?

>>63816522
It depends, but by and large yes. There is no point dropping FAB-9000's when you could drop 20 FAB-500's.

>>63816546
Didn't pen too deep, went off in the attic, initial explosion flash mostly ran out before the ceilings gave way?
Building's probably gutted anyway.

>>63816465
saved

>>63813993 (OP)
The HAMMER!

>>63813993 (OP)
-THE HAMMER- sends his regards, you worthless russian cretins

>>63814097
so its like a glide bomb but with rocket boost assist and targeting? every uses of these I've seen has been deadly accurate, like to the exact room in the building they want to hit.

>>63816619
>every uses of these I've seen has been deadly accurate, like to the exact room in the building they want to hit
At this point you'd be hard pressed to find a western PGM with a CEP >1m

>>63816619
>>63816625
Apparently there is a basic Hammer variant with INS+GPS and ~10 m CEP, but the laser guided and IR image recognition variants are potentially <1m.
No idea which one the Ukies got, but the precision seems pretty good.

>>63814042
A missile knows what it is at all times. It knows this because it knows what it isn't (a fucking bomb).

>>63814131
Bouncing radar off the ionosphere gives you beyond the horizon capabilities.
You basically only get early warning, and doesn't allow you to use the correct wavelengths for missile guidance.

>>63814007
>MAGA Hammer

Based

>>63816522
It's a question of carrying capacity and effect on target, you want to maximize the area covered by the bombs, so the optimal bomb is somewhere between the smallest bomb that will give you the desired effect on target and the bomb size that maximizes your payload capacity in terms of total ordnance carried, since there's size constraints with pylons. The assessment of the effect on target needs to account for precision.

>>63813993 (OP)
One HAMMER a day make your pain go away

>>63816730
Have we seen laser guidance done from drones yet? It seems like the perfect platform for a designator.

>>63814026
See, that's just mean. Who be who here? It's like watching Survivor Island, I don't.

>>63817441
It that a bloody turd pile?

>>63814521
>>63814584
Only the perished know respite from the Air Defense Cuckold Bard

any updates on the russians in tetkino? i assume these webms show how their day is going...

>>63817767
I think it's supposed to be a phrygian cap

>>63814660
>>63814606

whats the bait idea here ? that molecules have infinite size and thus take up all space in vacuum ? Because they have infinite interaction range and gravity does not thus they will float away?

>>63816522
kinda ^3 dimension scaling is bad.

>>63816420
>Le Jedamuex.
>>63816464
>j'daime

Other names for the flying baguette drop?

>>63815056
>words words words
Just call them a christcuck, redditor. They believe we live in a skydaddy snow globe. They aren't human.

>>63815078
>If you are the /pol/x/ schizo
You can't imagine that there's only one?

>>63814042
One is 90% missile and 10% warhead and the other is 90% warhead and 10% missile.
So they are basicly the same thing, except they also are not,

>>63818030
here are them

>>63818030
>Rifleman of the 1427th Motorized Rifle Regiment of the Russian Armed Forces Razmyslov Yevgeny, 01/07/1981, captured in Tyotkino, Kursk Region. He is currently in a Ukrainian hospital, without a leg. Most likely, he will lose the other one as well.

>He told how they went to storm Tyotkino: three “fat” unprepared fighters could not stand the march-throw and shot themselves. Another was shot by his own men because “he went crazy.”

>When he surrendered, he asked to be shot. The Ukrainians, with the phrase “what are you, a fool?”, evacuated him to a safe place under enemy fire.

>>63814192
Mig-87

>>63828055
>When the guys you're invading are showing more mercy to you then your own men

>>63830256
white europeans vs asiatic horde, simple as

>>63821177
>Sacre BLU!

>>63830256
There was new video released by Azov
>ziggers surrender and ask “so are you going to take us prisoners or utilising us right away?”
>get answer “were not you”

>>63830256
I think I'd rather die than be without legs to be honest. Not the absolute worst shit ever, becoming blind AND deaf is above it, but still.

>>63832558
Losing your legs is a relatively minor problem in western society. Get a wheelchair. Your arms will be huge. Losing eyes or hands is the suicide-inducing shit.

>>63814188
>4188
Nice try, kraut. I see what you are doing there.

>>63832595
You don't even need a wheelchair. Just some strong arms and properly adjusted crutches.

>>63817441
>>63817767
>>63820512
It's the 2024 French olympic mascot, and it's FUCKING CUTE as heck

>>63830358
define "utilising"

>>63832688
gay sex?

>>63832688
Russia has as many words for "execute" as inuit have for "snow"

Want to know who else is getting out of AWACS? The USAF. The Wedgetail is being dropped and the idea now is that E-2s will backfill until the satelite system comes online. The USAF considers this to be a downgrade but too bad that’s the reality of the budget today.

>>63832688
one of the meanings of "utilizing" in russian language is basically "getting rid of" / "disposing of" / "recycling", which is a synonym used for killing them

>>63830256
>>63836311
How do these Russians not defect en masse because if you are getting literally fucked by your country and the one you ar demonizing is treating you better wouldn’t that shatter your world view?

>>63836475
This is a big topic, which isn't realy suited for 4chang due to character limits, but I'll try...

You're not getting it because of type of reverse-racism against russians, which exists for you because of the language and geography barriers. What I mean by reverse-racism here? The fact that you look at russians and see white or white-ish looking Europeans and thus subconsciously project your own European thinking patterns, culture and views onto them. Well, guess what? As the famous Japanese philosopher once said: russians are black, just wrong color by accident.

Russians might look European, but they inherently are not. They don't think the same way you do, they don't look at the world the way you do, they don't have the same thinking process or culture. Partially this is about multiple centuries of mongol influence (the RU statehood is still in the year of 2025 built based on the mongol system adopted by moscow princes after the mongol invasion). Partially this is about centuries of serfdom (fun fact, serfdom was abolished only in 1861 - russians were freed from slavery just 4 years before negroes in US). The final double tap into the head of potential normality of russians was the 70 years of bolshevik rule.

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cont. >>63836584

So yeah, first you need to open your mind of the fact that russian aren't white in their culture and aren't European in their heritage. And even when they've slowly moved to adopt European normality in one way or another something happened every time to reverse the process or hijack and weaponize it against itself.

The most recent example would be how a ton of kids who grew up during the 90s were way more westernized because they've see the USSR suck and then were able to inject a ton of foreign western culture into themselves. And maybe that would fix them in a couple generations, but nope - in 2000 the KGB regime restoration happened, by 2005 the regime entrenched and started pumping up more and more anti-western pro-soviet pro-imperial propaganda. Propaganda which also fell into a fertile ground, because the culture was fucked even before that. That's both imperialistic delusions of grandeur. Also russia's own weimar syndrome from losing the Cold War. A ton of resentment all across layers of society from not having special treatment from the western powers (they had special treatment, but they unironically wanted insane shit and were very offended when that wasn't provided). Don't get me started on how convenient of an idea is for the regime to blame all of the fucked up shit on "those pesky westerners are making issues for us" and shit.

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>>63835981
It's not a budget question, it's a
>my political decisionmakers are fucking retarded and/or seeking to enrich themselves and their buddies
question
>>63836475
Russians have an immense tolerance for suffering. They live in a society where every jutting nail gets hammered with immense brutality. This starts with familial violence when they're kids and continues as state-sanctioned violence as they age. From kindergarten to school and from workplace to the military, they're kept in check by the threat of, and the brutal use of violence. This instills this sheepish "I'll do what I'm told" attitude in them. Russians also use state-sanctioned alcoholism to sedate and control its population, vodka is cheaper than water.

Russian Revolt by the way happened because 1) vodka prices were surging, 2) the Russians thought that their international prestige was harmed by the Czar due to embarrassing battlefield performance. If either condition wasn't present, the Russian state might still be a feodal monarchy.

cont. >>63836614

So yeah, the culture is deeply fucked. To so many factors that one could write a big ass book about it. One of the big components about this fuckedness is how russian society is a deeply broken mix of authoritarianism and paternalism, learned helplessness, feudal elements and collectivism on one side, while also having uber cynicism on the other side. This crap propagates the russian society and is reproduced since kindergartens and schools, indoctrinating more and more people with age.

And because of the factors instilled by this broken culture there's a big element of people not even thinking for a moment to resist authority in many ways, let alone actually projecting violence against it. I.e. you have people who have their heads and limbs smashed in by sledgehammers, you have rape pits, you have gladiator fights to the death, you have basement detention, you have torture. And 999 out of a 1000 retards won't even bat an eye at that. For them not only is that normal, but they'll actively cope that "yeah, fuck those guys" and "nobody would do that to them just for shits and giggles, they've obviously at fault _for something_" and so on. Same as with their cope about fucking each other in the ass and thinking that they're not gay. Deep layered system of delusions built since childhood.

So no, pretty much no one would dare to shoot their abuser, or frag a retarded commander. Or do anything.

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