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What will weapons in space look like
Anonymous No.63824873 [Report]
missiles and bullets because of no friction
Anonymous No.63824875 [Report] >>63824995 >>63826627 >>63828369
There won't be any weapons in space. We, as a humanity, have only few decades left.
Anonymous No.63824880 [Report] >>63824945
Take your fat fucking mother,
Put her on a ICBM.
Wait for her to renter orbit.
The accumulated gases inside her body plus massive weight will result in A nuclear explosion without a fallout
Anonymous No.63824945 [Report] >>63825016
>>63824880
Jesus christ anon we are discussing practical weapons for a local conflict not a doomsday device which will make the entire human race go exstinct.
Anonymous No.63824995 [Report] >>63825301
>>63824875
theres already weapons in space, retard
Anonymous No.63825003 [Report]
>>63824833 (OP)
ultra long range swarms of missiles, possibly shaped charge nukes or nuke-pumped X-ray lasers to strike from beyond effective PD range

megawatt-range lasers for PD duty, probably not used as offensive weapons aside from extremely close range engagements since they dump more heat into your ship than into the enemy

that's it, it's going to be somewhat like modern naval combat, but even more gay and retarded as even one direct hit on your ship will rip it to shreds and evading detection will be impossible
Anonymous No.63825015 [Report]
>>63824833 (OP)
Boring and non-human. Early on smart mine fields, stealth sleeper drones, stealthy missiles, nuclear powered various energy weapons and shrapnel. Eventually probably all sorts of weird stuff that future AIs come up with.

Almost zero scifi or fantasy features any sort of realism since there's a pretty narrow window (that we are long past) where baseline humans would feature any sort of role in space combat.
Anonymous No.63825016 [Report]
>>63824945
At least its not Steven Seagal dropped from low earth orbit. Nothing would remain of the planet.
Anonymous No.63825060 [Report]
>>63824833 (OP)
Here anon, in case you haven't been exposed to this condensed slice of internet autism yet:
https://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/spacegunintro.php
Anonymous No.63825228 [Report] >>63825956
It's already really easy to die in space as is. The tiny little things that can lead to a sudden, uncontrollable collapse of a ship or a suit aren't hard at all to cause deliberately. My guesses:
>glorified paintball guns with BBs for the extremely rare actual troop-on-troop engagement
>long distance energy weapons that can hit targets thousands of miles away (these will be able to disable parts of a ship or cause a depressurization before troops can even see each other)
>cyber attacks that can take control of enemy tech systems
Anything Star Wars or Gundam-flavored will just be dumb toys and theater for spergs like Musk to play with and strike fear into the hearts of their colonists/chatel
Anonymous No.63825301 [Report] >>63825591
>>63824995
You know what I meant nigger.
Anonymous No.63825465 [Report]
>>63824833 (OP)
I'd assume they would look like weapons we have already. But in space.
Anonymous No.63825558 [Report] >>63825730 >>63828369
Humanity isn't going to make it to the point where we're having wars in space. I expect the end of civilization by the 60's and total human extinction by the turn of the century.
Anonymous No.63825591 [Report] >>63826734
>>63825301
you very flatly stated "There won't be any weapons in space."
what you said wasn't the same as what you meant, so no, i didn't
Anonymous No.63825730 [Report] >>63825777
>>63825558
>total human extinction
You know that won't happen. The elite own everything they need to survive a borderline extinction event and they've been accruing resources to survive one for decades. A small human population doesn't need much to survive, so they'll just make sure we're the ones to die.

What we're likely going to see is an event that will trigger a speciation of homo sapiens. People are already wildly phenotypically and genotypically diverse, we just haven't had a meaningful physical selective pressure for almost a century. EVERYONE has been allowed to breed, including those that have absolutely no survival capabilities, and now it's all starting to fall apart because there are too many shitters and our obligate social species has been forced to live like a eusocial species for too long. There will probably be a massive dying off here before long, followed by two distinct species in the homo genus after a while. It will probably be triggered by something in the USA or something the USA decides to get involved in.
>[insert major USA event here]
>a last huge fucked up series of pr(iot)otests occurs in major cities
>lefties finally decide to arm up
>normies, MAGAs, and /k/-oid gun nutters get roped in because the chaos is too much
>gubmint inevitably fucks lefties up, winds up starting a fight with everyone else too because they can't tell who is who
>no civil war, but nationwide civil unrest as all factions start shooting each other
>elites move to bunkers/compounds/floatillas etc because they saw this coming miles away and probably orchestrated some of it
>one of America's enemies makes a move (China, Russia, and North Korea have been waiting for this for ages, USA gubmint knows is and that's why we haven't done anything meaningful in Ukraine or Gaza)
>our deadbeat allies try to help because they know they're next, WW3 happens, mass death
>nobody keeping the spastics in check/they have nothing to lose, ALL the nukes and bioweapons
>cont.
Anonymous No.63825777 [Report]
>>63825730
>more mass death, elites are fine
>eventually everyone chills the fuck out but now everything is broken
>obviously elites would never allow total societal collapse, but now they can make their own city states and keep the poors out
>elites essentially continue existing as normal humans, forming new city states operated by mostly automated labor and agriculture
>selective pressures have shaved off most normal people
>what's left is the beginnings of a population that will adapt to what's left
>most likely a new species of pygmy-like people arise
>able to survive on a diet of low-quality hearty foods that can survive the hellscape
>resilient but probably not as intelligent as modern humans (nerds won't be able to make use of any of the leftover tech on their own, so they'll be killed or bred out by some flavor of nog)
Anonymous No.63825956 [Report] >>63832435
>>63825228
A shame that Expanse is the only popsci to depict space combat with ships depressurized and crews in suits.
Anonymous No.63826078 [Report]
>>63824833 (OP)
coilgun-fired KKV's that slam into a ship and kill the crew by shaking the ship like a snow globe
Anonymous No.63826327 [Report]
>>63824833 (OP)
Anonymous No.63826627 [Report] >>63832070
>>63824875
>We, as a humanity, have only few decades left.
a few years if you believe a.i. researchers
Anonymous No.63826734 [Report] >>63827042
>>63825591
"How to Easily Diagnose Autism"
-Dr. Anonymous
Anonymous No.63827042 [Report]
>>63826734
where do you think we are?
Anonymous No.63827064 [Report]
>>63824833 (OP)
Like any other satellite.
Anonymous No.63827080 [Report]
>>63824833 (OP)
>there no such thing as an unarmed spaceship
Anonymous No.63828322 [Report] >>63833237
Everyone assumes that space battles are going to be like naval battles, in the 3 body problem books series humanity loses a battle they should had won easily because of it, the alien spaceship had no weapons it was just optimized for durability and speed and ramed the entire fleet, obviously its fiction but you can see how it could happen, the aliens approached the upcoming battle as a psysics problem and humanity brute forced and tried to recreate the lessons of history instead of keeping an open mind
But then again the author is also commiting the same anachronistic mistake, if AGI is possible then there is no realistic future were biological minds make this kind of tactical and strategical reasons it will be superintelligences battling on behalf of factions/species using methods we may not understand, so the author thinking human or alien intelligence matters is as retarded and close minded as his fictional humans trying to build battleships in space
Sorry for my english I'm ESL and worse FFL
Anonymous No.63828369 [Report] >>63828929 >>63832139
>>63825558
>>63824875
I dont own a tv did we detect an asteroid travelling at a high % of lightspeed approaching earth or are we in a collision course with a black hole ? why so many apocalyptic retards in such a short thread?
Anonymous No.63828428 [Report]
>>63824833 (OP)

MARBLES!

Well, ball bearings. Clouds of them. Kessler syndrome.

A piece of debris in low earth orbit is moving about 8 kilometers a second just to avoid falling. Now imagine it's moving in a different orbital plane (or worse, a retrograde orbit) and the relative velocity increases to 16 kilometers per second.

By the time you see the cloud coming over the horizon, it's already too late to maneuver.
Anonymous No.63828475 [Report] >>63832238
People who imagine wars in space need to Kerbal more.

A bolt in low earth orbit is traveling at 8 km/s just to avoid falling, and if it's moving in a retrograde orbit to you, that's 16 km/s. You're talking 6 to 10 times faster than the fastest bullet. Fire a bullet that fast at sea level and it will vaporize in the barrel and probably take the barrel with it.

What do you need to make a space weapon? A box of ball bearings and a rocket to throw it to orbit. That's it. Get it vaguely in the general direction of the target and you've got a good chance of not only destroying the target, but causing kessler syndrome for the next couple decades.
Anonymous No.63828929 [Report]
>>63828369
No, something far more destructive than any meteor is coming tough.
Its called white replacement in the western world, once the process is complete, we will start to loose technology at a rapid pace
Anonymous No.63828961 [Report]
>>63824833 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXeUkrlxQ98
Anonymous No.63831670 [Report] >>63834490
>>63824833 (OP)
Like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kEQkkfKkp8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEpm1_j1dYM
Anonymous No.63832070 [Report]
>>63826627
>AI researchers
they're a mix of fabulist grifters, people trying to promote their products as the next big thing/trying to get competition banned so they can have a monopoly, and actual idiots.
unless you're talking about *actual* AI researchers who generally agree that a LLM will not generate AGI and the question of AI risk is more about AI being used to manipulate humans, whether it's via human prompted, AI created content or an AI just spinning out of control and schizophrenic retards trying to read things into it.
Anonymous No.63832139 [Report]
>>63828369
Humans have always been like this, we have records nearly as old as writing of predictions that humanity is surely doomed in short order because [kids these days/poor leaders/religious prophecy/writer's issue of choice]. Welcome to the Human Condition.
Anonymous No.63832238 [Report]
>>63828475
>Fire a bullet that fast at sea level and it will vaporize in the barrel and probably take the barrel with it.
What the fuck are you on about. Who said "war in space" was "ground-based artillery to orbital speeds"? Also who said you needed to get to orbital speeds to get an intercept. Shoot something at the right altitude, have it have enough thrust to stay in place for a little while, and enough maneuverability to place itself in the path of the incoming ballistic object.
Anonymous No.63832309 [Report]
>>63824833 (OP)
Exactly that. Spot on. You won the thread.
Anonymous No.63832316 [Report]
>>63824833 (OP)
Missiles wil go almost all the way then make a shaped charge, by damping and shaping the explosion from a sphere into a rapidly flipped inside out and becoming a beam weapon. I was told b
Anonymous No.63832379 [Report]
>>63824833 (OP)
Space is about kinetic energy. Anything with this is a weapon. Aerodynamics don't matter. Just push a projectile towards an enemy satellite, use thrusters to adjust trajectory and its toast.
Anonymous No.63832435 [Report] >>63832712
>>63825956
>Expanse
I only saw first season and i liked it, but i have problem with boarding of that Martian vessel that captured MC and his crew.
Defenders should have every advantage in that situation, corridor chokepoints, internal communication, knowledge of any breach points and positions of all enemies.
Boarding forces weren't big and there was no attempt of doing some
>the hacked all of our systems right after boarding
excuse
Anonymous No.63832441 [Report]
missiles, guns, and maybe some lasers.

swarms of kinetic, conventional, and nuclear missiles. nuclear missiles could also be good to get a big blast to intercept incoming missiles.

maybe some big ships could have central laser generators bounced to turrets for ciws.

high automation to decrease weight and maximize reaction time. swarms of hundreds if not thousands of small automated ships spaced far from each other with overpowered thrusters making randomized movements to increase survivability.
Anonymous No.63832664 [Report]
>>63824833 (OP)
Missiles and microkinetics with lasers mostly used to shoot down the former. Missiles would use either EFPs or Casaba Howtizers depending on how wartime law develops while microkinetics would be practically a knife fighting weapon. Like an armor piercing CIWS.

You could have spinal mounted broadside but that's more of a bombardment weapon than a ship killer. Space ships are just too fast.
Anonymous No.63832712 [Report]
>>63832435
To be fair, the Battle of the Donnager was anomalous in all sorts of ways. The attackers had a significant tech advantage despite leading in military technology at the time, the Donnager got jumped way inside it's engagement envelope, and the attackers mounted railguns despite being far smaller than the smallest railgun equipped ship.
Anonymous No.63833237 [Report]
>>63828322
>Everyone assumes that space battles are going to be like naval battles
almost all hard sci-fi i've seen treats them more like air battles
Anonymous No.63834490 [Report]
>>63831670
Anonymous No.63835413 [Report]
>>63824833 (OP)
Suicide satellite that shadow and eventually maneuver into enemy satellites, or that simple release clouds of hardened junk into the orbits. Otherwise space weaponization will be limited to satellite missile racks, and missiles fired from Earth into orbit
Anonymous No.63835704 [Report]
>>63824833 (OP)
AR-15