Thread 63828251

Recently got myself two shotguns and despite there cheap price, I love them all the same.
Post your shotguns. From poverty to gucci, all are welcome.

>>63828251 (OP)
$300 for this... should I cop?

>>63828658
I bought one for the meme and I'm happy with it. It works. It's fun to fuck around with. The mag release is where it would be on an ar magwell so reloading is not convenient.
I put the hera foregrip on it so it looks halo.
It is what it is. No malfunctions but not a high round count either

Has anyone had any experience with adding a red dot to a shotgun? I'm thinking about getting one of the Mossberg pump actions with a red dot mount.

>>63828251 (OP)
whats the /k/onsensus on this mossberg boomstick with a double stack mag?
is it bussin or is it rustin?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVE0g-KaZF8

>>63830922
I'm seeing them in both the mag fed and tube fed versions online for less than $900 ($850 for the mag fed and tube fed for $700).
Its a modified Mossberg for a contract they had with someone. I assume it'll function as well as every other Mossberg.

>>63828251 (OP)
Best deal I ever made was trading both my Stevens 320 and Winchester SXP for a 1950s Ithaca 37. I will die on the hill that it is objectively the best shotgun ever designed.

I'm fucking pissed at Browning. They have great designs *the Auto5 and BPS) but they only ever make hunting and skeet guns! I would kill for an 8+1, 20 inch barrel Browning Auto 5 or BPS pump shotgun from them, but they just don't!

>>63828658
>should I cop?
Fuck no, the rail is bent.

>>63830949
>I assume it'll function as well as every other Mossberg.
I have little firsthand experience, but I've read and heard from a lot of people that the box mag versions (the -M variants) have feeding issues whereas the normal tube mag Mossbergs are famously reliable.

My shotties, I want to sell the 590 for the new mag fed 590 and get a O/U to get back into skeet.

>>63830905
I didn't like it. Took it off and went back to ghost rings. That's all I have

>>63831203
>I would kill for an 8+1, 20 inch barrel Browning Auto 5
You may have to.

>>63831853
You are going to regret that. Mags sound cool on paper but suck ass in reality. They are just way too damn bulky

>>63828251 (OP)
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>>63828658
Cop what?

>>63836302
It. He's asking if he should buy it. Answer is no, it's a POS.

>>63830905
I played around with an MRO on a couple of my shotties. It was fucking terrible for shooting clays. I did like it on my slug gun, though I since moved it to my .44 mag levergat carbine and now I have a LPVO on the slug gun. I like the LPVO better on the slug gun because it's heavier and because it has elevation markings useful for shooting at longer range.

Anyone buy a one of these Benelli Nova shotguns from Bereli? I've been considering getting one for a bit now and want to know your experience with this gun.

>>63830922
it's fucking stupid, but based on that video and gun sales/hunting trends it makes sense because as james said, mossberg says they sell way more tacticool bullshit than they sell actual functional guns

>>63840800
I agree the shotguns are tacticool bullshit, but they're going to be functional guns as well.

My body wants a Beretta 1301, but my wallet says I can't and that my Mossberg 500 is good enough

>>63830922
Somebody tell Reeves that no, they aren't the first double stack shotgun mags.
MD Arms made a few sizes for 030 Saigas and Vepr12s, years ago.

>>63841978
Don't listen to your wallet, that guy's poor.
Get the 1301.

>>63840800
>>63841850
I could see some utility in the mag fed design for a close quarters shotty. Regular 18.5 inch 590 is a 6+1 while the same barrel length gets you 10+1 in the mag fed, 20+1 if you get the big fuck off magazine. All that said im in no rush to replace my 500. If I go through a whole 6 rounds of magnum #1 buck and the people on the other side still haven't fucked off I've got bigger problems than a shotgun could solve.

>>63841978
You could always compromise and get the A300 Ultima Patrol. They're about $850.

>>63841850
>>63842062
If I need more than 5 shotshells I'll grab my AR instead

>>63843395
Yeah, but the idea of sending 10 or more slugs at a home invader really appeals to me.

>>63839231
this girl did

https://youtu.be/6QwdlfXWDYI

>>63839231
>>63845690
at least one of those is uses. Shina fell for the 18.5 inch barrel meme and then found a used gun with a 28 inch barrel that was cheaper than just buying the accessory barrel or like very similar in price or something. I know the 20 inch duck barrels for mossberg are $300 which is crazy. I think I paid like $400 for a whole ass mossberg 500 retrograde

This is my Mossberg 500
Safety position is 10/10
All safeties should be in this position imo

>>63845862
This is ma other shotgun
It was my grandfather's
Winchester mod 12 made in 1947
Took it clay shooting the other week for the first time....very accurate, had a greatvtime :)

>>63841978
Save up for it, you clearly aren't unarmed

>>63828251 (OP)
>>63828658
>>63830922
>>63841978
>>63841978
>My body wants a Beretta 1301
You might as well and sell whatever guns you don't use or need if you like the Beretta 1301. You're going to die anyway, so you might as well enjoy yourself while you're alive. Save up if you can't immediately buy it as well and you will have it anon. Think to yourself: Do I shoot my shotgun a lot? If yes, consider if it's worth it to you to get a higher-end semi auto shotgun.

I am probably going to end up buying this sooner or later:
- https://tarantacticalinnovations.com/tti-3g-dracarys-gen-12-shotgun/
- https://genesisarms.com/15rnd-drum-magazine/
- https://genesisarms.com/5rnd-magazine/

I need to see if I can have it customized in a certain way first before I bother and eventually FRT it.

There are smaller NFA models too, but I don't like those ones:
- https://tarantacticalinnovations.com/tti-jw4-dracarys-gen-12-shotgun/
- https://genesisarms.com/firearms/12-gauge/

If anyone has used these and they're shit, then let me know, but everywhere I have asked says they're unreal, so who knows.

>>63828251 (OP)
>>63828658
>>63830922
>>63841978
>My body wants a Beretta 1301
You might as well and sell whatever guns you don't use or need if you like the Beretta 1301. You're going to die anyway, so you might as well enjoy yourself while you're alive. Save up if you can't immediately buy it as well and you will have it anon. Think to yourself: Do I shoot my shotgun a lot? If yes, consider if it's worth it to you to get a higher-end semi-auto shotgun.

I am probably going to end up buying this sooner or later:
- https://tarantacticalinnovations.com/tti-3g-dracarys-gen-12-shotgun/
- https://genesisarms.com/15rnd-drum-magazine/
- https://genesisarms.com/5rnd-magazine/

I need to see if I can have it customized in a certain way first before I bother and eventually FRT it.

There are smaller NFA models too, but I don't like those ones:
- https://tarantacticalinnovations.com/tti-jw4-dracarys-gen-12-shotgun/
- https://genesisarms.com/firearms/12-gauge/

If anyone has used these and they're shit, then let me know, but everywhere I have asked says they're unreal, so who knows.

>>63831047
hell yeah brother. repostin my 37

>>63831853
Why would you ever want to get rid of a 590? It’s peak shotgun design

>>63845862
Nice heat shield. Should be standard on all shotguns

Recently installed Walnut furniture on my Benelli M4.
Getting the original recoil tube out was a bitch to do.
I ended up going to the hardware store and getting some M8x1.25 nuts.
>incoming pic dump

>/2
A somewhat better view.

>>63850051
tacticool shotguns are dumb

>>63850599
This shithole site isn't letting me delete my post for some odd reason.

>/3
It shot smoothly, and the grip felt nice to grasp compared to the usual polymer furniture.

>/4
Another picture, this time on some rocks in a stream of water I was hiking up on.

>5/
And that's pretty much it.

6/
Here is what it originally looked like before I installed the buttstock. The handguards were easy though.

I've posted these before but people always find them interesting

>>63850636
This Mossberg was £40, perfect for rough pigeon shooting

And my 12g greener, only single shot but its so accurate for a shotgun.

And my newest all purpose SXP that I got almost new for less than half price because an old guy had a shed full of guns that he needed to got rid of

>>63850051
I honestly just started to hate the ghost rings. I already have a pump so I was considering either the mag one for coolness factor or just getting a semi (M4 or 1301)

>>63832172
>They are just way too damn bulky
It's not a problem when I'll only use them at the range

>>63850645
I love the Greener GP. It's annoying they weren't really a thing in the US. They're very solid, fun as hell to shoot, and cheap as shit in the UK. A buddy of mine bought one off gunsinternational that someone had fitted a rifled slug barrel on with express sights. That thing was eerily accurate, would easily shoot ragged cloverleaf groups at 50 yards with Brenneke Green Lightings.

>>63830905
I have a 590S. The threads blew out on the factory optic mount after less than 100 rounds. Sent it back to Mossberg and after a few weeks it came back with a screw loctited into the blown out hole. I picked up an adapter mount that uses the standard top of receiver mount point from Evolution Gun Works and that's been ok so far.
tl;dr
The factory mount is kinda ass

>>63850614
Nice.

>>63850633
I really gotta attempt to start on converting and loading for .410 (Indian) Musket one day. I bought one of those ~$100 deadstock .410 Ishapores from Centerfire when they were on sale with free shipping. Unconverted so it still shoots straightwall .303. Would be fun to get it threaded for chokes; wonder if it could be silenced if I did.

>>63851945
Mine was built and converted in the UK, so just takes regular .410.
I have fired .303 out of it and fire formed some .410 brass
>>63851514
Even bird shot holds great patterns out of my Greener, if your on target it never wings a bird, it drops it straight down.

>>63828251 (OP)
Well, at least the Maverick 88 is a good choice. Good luck with that Turkish semi auto.
>>63828658
Eh, kind of a dice roll but if you don't care then go for it. Keep the warranty card handy and be ready to send it in for repairs at the first sign of trouble.
>>63830922
Total gimmick. The magazines are bulky, awkward to load and get in your way when trying to rack the shotgun. I shot one and besides how hideous it looks that magazine was so annoying I just kept wishing it had the regular tube mag instead.
>>63831047
That's a good upgrade. Hope you enjoy the slam firing as well. Coolest feature on the old 37s.
>>63839231
Don't know about anything new with them, but they are a good solid choice.
>>63841978
The 500 is enough. I've owned Benellis and all manner of semi auto. If I could only own one shotgun, my old 500 would be a no brainer for me.
>>63845862
Even with the PGO? Usually the tang safety only plays nice with the full stock.

>>63850633
>.410 Enfield
You brits have a nice shotgun culture at least.

>>63854254
>Even with the PGO? Usually the tang safety only plays nice with the full stock.
the whole tang safety thing is ppl bitching that they cant hit it while holding the pistolgrip.
this isnt a huge deal, you have a whole other hand or can simply remove your hand from the pistol grip and hit it. the whole i need to be able to instantly fire the gun at any moment was always perpetuated by dumbasses.

>>63856233
Pretty much all we've got going for us. I had a shotgun in everytype of action at one point.

>>63850600
>tactical
>literally just a regular pump action shotgun with a heat shield and a cheap stock sleeve
First day?

>>63850886
Yeah I avoided ghost rings. I’m old fashion and exclusively use bead sights

>>63856471
Even lever action?

>>63856504
>20 inch heavy profile CB barrel with an extended mag tube and a heat shield
>not tacticool

>>63856512
Okay boomer. Cringe tacticool would be cheap shit sights, fore grips, flashlights, pistol grips, adjustable stock, and multi colored accents. Go shoot your single shot .20g some more boomer

>>63856528
a normal mossberg 500 isn't tacticool
a 590 with a bayonet lug and a heat shield is tachticool

>>63856512
Aren't 20 inch barrels always paired with a longer tube?
Besides, the barrel and tube always looks better when they're the same length.

>>63858105
>Aren't 20 inch barrels always paired with a longer tube?
you can get 20 inch turkey guns because the popular way to hunt turkeys for what ever reason is a 20 inch smooth bore with a red dot and a 3 or 3 and a half inch shell that kicks like an elephant round
>Besides, the barrel and tube always looks better when they're the same length.
a. wrong
b. the shorter mag tubes are better for hunting due to laws restricting them anyway and nearly every barrel a shotgun company makes is compatible with the shorter mag tubes. the longer mag tubes only work with 20 inch barrels

>>63858155
>a. wrong.
I'm right and you know it. The tube matching with the barrel will always be more aesthetically pleasing.
>b. the shorter mag tubes are better for hunting
And the longer tubes are better for home defense due to the increased capacity. A 20 inch, 7+1 12 gauge shotgun is practically the gold standard for a home defense shotgun.

>>63858195
>The tube matching with the barrel will always be more aesthetically pleasing.
>And the longer tubes are better for home defense due to the increased capacity. A 20 inch, 7+1 12 gauge shotgun is practically the gold standard for a home defense shotgun.
at that point I'd just use an AR

>>63856600
>a 590 with a bayonet lug and a heat shield is tachticool
Yeah, check out this tacticool 590.

>>63858252
yes, it is tacticool to put that shit on a hunting gun

>>63858378
Oh so you're retarded. Why didn't you just say that to begin with?

>>63858378
Check out this hunting gun then. It's not a heatshield, it's a rail and no lug.
Definitely not tacticool.

>>63858423
nah, you are a gay retard and a faggot.
>>63858444
that's tacticool too retardo

>>63858476
Still not tacticool, nigger

>>63858543
we don't sign our posts here

>>63856508
Good catch, I've never had a true lever action only a martini actionm I did try an Adler with the veiw to buying it, but didn't want to go thought with it in the end, just felt on the poorer side of quality.

>>63830905
Bead is typically gonna be the best sight for a shotgun. I like the acro for my 1301 but my days of shooting clays are about a decade behind me. I only shoot buck and slugs out of shotguns that arnt my dedicated bird pump

>>63858981
What are your thoughts on ghost ring sights then?

>>63852396
I have some range find .303 cases but I'm a little hesitant to fireform 1942 ammo that was fired and lost until it started to go blue lol. And the safety, that damn bent thing. Didn't complain to Centerfire because really, for that much? 90s deadstock surplus? I'll eat the $10-20 safety. I think mine takes a blade bayonet which sucks becuase I got a cheap spike a couple years before I got the Enfield. IIRC it's a WWI era rifle (at least the receiver), just given to India and converted.

>>63850593
>>63850607
>>63850614
Quite a handsome shotgun

>>63858946
Ah thanks for the info, I've always wondered about those aussie lever shotguns, shame about the quality. I've heard that a lot of aussie arms seem to be poor in general.

>>63859449
ghost rings are great for a "combat" gun you intend to shoot slugs and buck with. Also surprisingly capable of getting stuff in the air. Bead sights are also good but harder for precision stuff. Unrivalled for reflexive shooting. Dots really don't work for shotguns as well as we want them to, or better than either of the other two. The only real purpose they have is for turkey hunters imo

>>63860899
They're Turkish, I've heard conflicting reports and some people have said they get better as they wear in.

>>63861586
My 1887 clone is Chinese and after putting 100 rounds and 3 very thorough cleanings it has smoothed up considerably. Probably just the nature of shotguns, although I do think turk guns are hit and miss when you buy one. I hope the Brazilian ones are good, I want a dedicated over under gun.
https://stoegerindustries.com/shotguns/condor-competition-shotguns

>>63858946
shame they don't have these in 20 gauged with a rifles barrel
>>63856508
the 1887 is big gay

>>63863249
>>63856508
I did look at 1887s but even fucked up BP only ones are very expensive in Britian

Quick question: What are some good low recoil 12 gauge slugs? I want to get more friend onto shotguns, but she isn't used to a lot of recoil.

>>63863249
Ur big gay

>>63865519
nah, that's you

>>63831853
You are french, aren't you ? How much for your 590a1 btw ? Asking for a friend.

>>63866662
no, italian. Still haven't done a research on how much should I sell it for.

Should I buy a 410 ? Does it have any real world application or is it just gonna sit in the safe after taking a few test shots?

>>63830905
I have Cross eye dominance so I run red dots on all my shotguns. I do a lot of skeet and bird hunting.

I have run a Benelli M4 with a trijicon SRO and scalarworks low profile mount for 1000+ rounds with no issue. Dot is extremely low profile and great for quick target acquisition.

I tried a Mossberg 940 optic ready with a holosun 507k and I am not a big fan. The window is too small, walls of the optic are too thick and the dot is too close to your eye. There is no recoil lugs on the shotguns red dot cutout and I find it loses zero. I tried a shield RMSx and although it had much larger glass window, I still did not like the rearward position on the shotgun.

Most recent purchase was a Mossberg 590 retrograde with a new Vortex viper enclosed multireticle. Although it's got slightly more profile than the SRO and RMSx, I really find the multi reticle options useful for shotgun work and the direct mount to the receiver of most shotguns is a godsend. I also really like to deal with Vortex over other companies. If the optic survives a year of skeet and hunting I will pretty much exclusively use and recommend these dots over anything else.

>>63869754
Oh please let us know how the viper works out for you, I'm saving up to buy the tan A300 Ultima and I've been liking the viper for it.

>>63869316
The real question is can you afford it. 410s very pleasant to shoot but why when 12 or 20 is cheaper? What can you hunt with a 410 that you couldn't with a 12? The answer is nothing. You can argue well less recoil means you can shoot more except it costs more than 12. By a large margin. If you are a really old man with money to burn, teaching a child to shoot, or a retard with a judge 410 has a niche. For normal people nah.

>>63869316
Depends what you want it for. I have one of these 3 shot noricas and took it claying, I enjoyed the challenge and didn't do much worse than I would with a 12g. I dont have much other use for it now unless I'm teaching an under 16 to shoot.
Be good for rabbits and anything smaller but I don't shoot those, and for birds I use a 12g.

>>63860899
>>63861586
Aftermarket lever spring kits exist that improved the lever. Turkish guns dominate here and they range from pretty good to garbage (like everywhere else). Push button/Lever release shotties like pic rel are the current fad here.

Quick question: Wood furniture on a mariner Mossberg 590: Yay or Nay? If so, what wood?

>>63869316
IMHO, the .410 is a serious expert's gun. It has two main uses:
a) competitive skeet shooting where you are shooting all 4 gauges (12, 20, 28, .410)
b) if you are a serious outdoorsman who does a lot of upland style hunting of small game where you're walking around a lot and you really want a light gun, AND you're good enough that you can get away with the .410 instead of a larger gun.

Some people recommend them for kids but I don't think that's all that wise. .410 ammo is expensive to train with and it also throws a pretty small pattern which can make it frustrating to hit with for a new shooter. Some kids might take to a .410 but in my experience a 20ga with low recoil loads is much better. It's easier to hit with, which means less frustration.

>>63872365
What are you doing with it? If this is actually for a boat, or a gun you might take in the field then it's hard to argue with laminated stocks. They're weatherproof and super durable. If it's a range toy or a larpstick then go with whatever you think looks best. In my opinion guns that have a "stainless" or similar light colored finish look best with either lighter colored woods with a bit of a honey sort of color (stain), or extremely dark, almost black color. The more usual brown stock tones look best with blued metal, IMHO.

>>63872365
Yes.
>what wood?
The wood kind. Mossberg stock stuff, or Woox if you need mlok shit and hate money.

>>63872365
If you’re buying a Mariner because you’re a lazy piece of shit that can’t be assed to clean their guns? Plastic. If you’re buying it because you actually clean and take care of your guns? Wood.

>>63872612
>>63872628
I've had the Mariner 590 for a long time now (2019, first ever shotgun too). I never really considered wood for a stainless shotgun, but after I saw a Winchester 1300 that someone had polished, I knew I wanted something similar to my shotgun. Any recommendations on who makes the best wood furniture?
>>63872613
>Woox
Are they good? If I'm going to spend that kind of money, I hope they're good.

>>63872613
The current production mossberg factory "walnut" furniture is absolute crap. Do not spend more than $5 on a set. Woox looks gay as hell, so your best bet is find some old furniture on numrich or ebay and refinish if needed.

>>63873050
>Mariner 590
I bet it would look great with nice wood, but it seems that Woox stuff is 'gucci' not super grade wood.

>>63873076
I'd hope there is some little wood shop guy out there who knows what needs to be done to make something modern, or at least easily obtained.
>t. zero searches done anon

>>63873087
Stock making is very time consuming. There are custom stock makers out there, and they do an amazing job, but one will cost you as much as an entire pallet of 590s.

>>63873076
2nding this.
Another option if you want fancy wood is that there are many companies which do 'gunstock duplication'. This works as follows: you send your stock to them, and pick whatever type of wood you want. They put the wood blank in a machine which cuts it into a 1:1 copy of your original. Then it's a matter of finishing it, which you could do yourself or pay them to do for you. You could pick whatever wood you want from hot pink laminate to $5k presentation grade walnut.

>>63872523
>in my experience a 20ga with low recoil loads is much better.
NTA but any recommendations for low recoil brands? Looking for something slightly bigger (no. 4 buck or similar) and there's not much choice, double that for 20ga.

>>63873087
Fuck I want Remington to bring those folders back so bad. Nu-Remington would be swimming in fucking money right now if they did. Just so they don't fuck it up and make it from nylon with that awful cheap bead blasted mold texture; it needs to be satin or gloss. That's the part a lot of companies fuck up when re-releasing old polymer products and it drives me nuts.

>>63874708
>recommendations for low recoil brands?
Not for buckshot, but for shooting clays or small game at short range I like Fiocchi. The "Extra Low Recoil" in the blue box, sometimes also called "Exacta", is very good if you want a quality low-recoil shell. The "Shooting Dynamics low recoil" in the red box is the same recoil but is a cheaper. It doesn't pattern quite as well but it's still good ammo. They are excellent in 12ga as well.

>>63874763
Here is what the "Exacta" box looks like.

When is Remington coming back?