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Infographic fag should use a trip so we can ignore him edition
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>>63828628 (OP)what are some good alternatives to peep/aperture iron sights for an ar15 (yes I know that these kinds of sights are superior to u notches, but my eyes dont work well with them)
>>63828661I tried asking /arg/ but it the thread was invaded by /nvg/
>>63828661Get regular sights and then cut the top of the aperture off.
>>63828628 (OP)I am honored and privileged to be featured this thread.
Current list.
1. Used armor guide planned two threads ago
2. Night vision / thermal guide
3. Russian equipment buyers' guide
4. First aid infographic
5. Redoing magazine pouch infographic
6. Japanese clooner gear guide.
>>63828667/nvg/ seeks to capture more territory in a last ditch assault. They too know they will fall under the /gq/ umbrella, just as /bag/ and /pfg/ did before them.
One year from now, there will be a great reckoning between the /gq/ alliance and the /arg/pire. Be ready, and study Ulysses.
>>63828693something you need to edit about this, lock picks work great, but you dont really need large sets with dozens and dozens of picks. A big mistake beginners make is they buy a set that looks like it has every profile they would ever need and think they got a good deal, when in reality you wont use 99% of them. The overwhelming majority of locks in the US can be opened with only half a dozen different profiles of picks.
t. picklock
>>63828761Excellent, quality feedback. Could you expand on this half dozen profiles for the thread? I'll update the infographic with what you've got.
>>63828761these are considered overpriced, but have everything you need as a starter and they offer upgrade packages
https://covertinstruments.com/products/genesis-lock-pick?_pos=1&_sid=dfb4bde41&_ss=r
you would be fine getting some chink knock off kit, but the profiles in this kit will open 90%+ of all usual locks
>>63828771Most locks in the US have pretty "wide" openings, usually around .030", in Europe they can be very small, but that doesnt matter for the vast majority of anons on this board
A Short Hook (.025")
A Medium Hook (.025")
A Quad Wave Rake (.025")
A Quint Wave Rake (.025")
Various size turning tools (0.30,.040,.050) which are basically glorified wrenches
these will do most, if you can learn how to rake a lock (low skill, you can learn in 5 minutes) and learn basic "single pin" picking, you will have a great life skill and absolutely amaze people
if I were to add anything to that basic list it would just be some basic tools for disk locks, and maybe some thinner profiles, like a .020 for getting into more locks with tighter keyholes, but beginners tend to snap those easily and arent worth getting until you have gotten the hang of it
>>63828797also add in these profiles
.020 or .025 "knife"
.020 or .025 dimple pick
the knife will pop open combo locks simply by slipping it through a crack and poking the right spot
I could add more, but these are the ones worth learning to use for the average joe
Alright, quick edit made. Many thanks for the feedback. Looks like we're making progress this thread!
>>63828884https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5WPJWH4Dbs
looks good, I feel like most people will be perfectly happy with that little set, comes in a nice case so you can keep them in your larp gear and they wont bend/snap, raking is not much slower than using a key, and they are lighter than bolt cutters, EVERYBODY should learn it, there are thousands of things locked with dollar store "master"locks waiting to be opened in 2 seconds
one thing you might want to add, "know your local laws", because in some states, I know in virginia, lockpicks can be considered prima facie evidence, which means that if you are caught with them YOU have to PROVE that you werent going to commit a crime with them... yeah ik, innocent until proven guilty does not apply here, its backwards as hell but you are guilty until proven innocent because its a "burglar tool"
>>63828935Certainly. There's a lot of super shit locks out there. Will add the "KNOW YOUR LOCAL LAWS" language immediately, that's a good point.
Pic unrelated, just throwing this one in the ring again.
>>63828884most people ITT are scared of power tools, why bother
fwiw you can break a lot of shitty padlocks with a pair of good sized wrenches or hard hits from a ~3lb hammer.
worth noting that saws and grinders are loud as fuck and take a long ass time to cut anything. you can cut those fatmax bars up into a better ghetto halligan too, that's all over youtube.
aint nobody on gods green earth carrying a fucking pinch bar to open doors. I'm not sure if A2 and co have gone to exclusively battery tools but a gas saw will still fuck shit up just as good. all cordless grinders are about the same but the dewalt is the best, fwiw.
if you're at the point where you're considering carrying thermal lances and oxy torches you're either breaking into bunkers and bank vaults or you should just figure out how to use explosives.
>>63828948most of the things on there are gonna be impractical to carry around, maybe large bolt cutters or a sledge at the most, but the most utility for weight is gonna be a set of picks and wire snipper for like a chain link fence or something
if I know im gonna have to break into something (legally) im just gonna bring literally everything in a vehicle, oxy acetylene rig and all
>>63828948It's somewhat my "signature" to have reasonable options and then escalate the infographics into total larp status gear. This is merely to capture the full "spectrum" of equipment and make the guides more comprehensive. Take side two of the aliexpress infographic for example. Nobody ITT has an Infiray TOM-E. Nobody's swinging $85,000 for cooled 640x512 thermal binoculars, but it's still cool. Maybe one day, one will fall off a truck for a lot less than that.
>most people ITT are scared of power toolsSee above.
>fwiw you can break a lot of shitty padlocks with a pair of good sized wrenches or hard hits from a ~3lb hammerCertainly. Many of the tools in the infograph are built to do just that.
>worth noting that saws and grinders are loud as fuckDitto tenfold for breaching shotguns. Situationally useful for apocalypse larp.
>aint nobody on gods green earth carrying a fucking pinch bar to open doorsI can go find a crackhead or two that would.
>you're either breaking into bunkers and bank vaults or you should just figure out how to use explosivesSounds based to me friend!
>>63828972In the heavily paraphrased words of A2, you want reasonably sized tools that can be carried around by everyone on the team, and if the tools are oversized to try and get additional leverage it's diminishing returns and you're using the wrong kinda tool.
Rams and such only make sense if you got a car to get you there and a team to breach the location. Most residential buildings in the US for example are extremely flimsy and can be breached with far lesser tools. Even a regular halligan can make easy work of commercial doors. The jumbo halligan at the bottom is meant for automobile extraction and is no way practical for rucking in the woods to breach an Appalachian methbilly fortress.
>>63828628 (OP)You know, I was going to dig out my kit and post a new pic since it's been a minute but you guys are too embarrassing to be associated with.
>>63828972yeah, trying to death wheel my way through a security door is a version of my personal hell.
>>63828980hey man I have no problem with what you're doing, we're all here to have fun. some of it just caught me off guard lol
oh yeah, automatic center punches work GREAT for breaking glass if you aren't already carrying a automotive style strap cutter/ glass breaker.
we could probably sit here all night and come up with various tools to break into buildings, it's arguably endless.
a good 90% kit is probably a halligan, that little lockpick set, and some kind of wire cutter.
maybe worth considering a heavier pair of gloves depending on what you're doing. everything is hot, sharp, or both and most tactical or mechanics gloves really do not have the cut resistance if you seriously think you're gonna be moving lots of metal.
anyway it's a good guide, I don't mean to ramble at you
>>63829045It's all good! I'm glad the infographics are working as conversation starters.
>some of it just caught me off guard lolAs intended!
>we could probably sit here all night and come up with various tools to break into buildingsAbsolutely, it's a super complex field arguably more complex than body armor, and as you all have seen I can go on for hours about that shit if I wanna.
>a good 90% kit is probably a halligan, that little lockpick set, and some kind of wire cutterSounds like a solid plan. If we're moving in teams I'd add an axe or maul to function as married irons and enable driving.
>maybe worth considering a heavier pair of gloves depending on what you're doing.Shit now you've giving me ideas for a glove infographic...
>anyway it's a good guideMany thanks! I'm hoping the eventual night vision and thermal guides will do the same thing. Will probably end up splitting that "one" into four.
1. LAMs
2. Analog NV
3. Digital NV (blargh but we're partly /pfg/ now so I gotta show the field on these so people at least buy nvg30s and don't get burned on the NIGHT OPERATOR WEEWOW fusion bullshit)
4. Thermal
>>63829043It's 4chan man. We got no flag, no moneh, no pussy. Also RMA armor sucks. Just saying.
>>63829043>i was going to show you my toys but now im not :P
>>63828693>>63828707Fuck off to /toy/ you faggot airshit larper. Go jerk off to some milsim helmet cam videos on YouTube and get the fuck out of this general. Obese manchild cuck
>>63829220Can you atleast not post the breaching infographic nearly half a dozen times in one thread again? I'm not saying don't update it, just settle down a bit with it
>t. not even the sperg you replied to, just more interested in the more practical infographics than the high dollar larpy shit that would look horrific during a vehicle search
>>63829450Alright fair enough. Have an infographic that isn't mine!
And here's the /pfg/ guide, RIP.
>>63829220Post one of the โbreaching toolsโ you own from that list of shit you compiled. Your faggot ass canโt even start a lawnmower let alone break down a door. Post your guns too, or are you actually a 15 year old living with mommy and you canโt own any?
>>63828628 (OP)I have question
My gf apparently can feel her heartbeat in her vagina or something whenever we kiss. Any idea why that is. Weโre unironically madly in love and infatuated with eachother (she is bipolar and Iโm her favorite person). Her family is german btw
>>63829215Hey boomer shitlord.
If you're here and your gear doesn't touch grass, get the fuck out. Go suck boots somewhere else.
>Hurr durr airsoft larper>"I only buy shit to keep it in my basement like a fucking cuck, all these guys need to go to /toy/"I'm not even an airshitter and my gear gets dirt on it. Shut the fuck up and go ruck your fat ass.
>>63829622I got pool noodle secret weapon can breach area 51 underground if you pry hard enough.
>>63829628This is what happens when you huff too much rem oil like
>>63829622
>tfw you try to psyop other people into posting their shit so you can dox them on a mongolian shit-eating board with only 40 people on it because it gets you hard, but they post a fucking pool noodle instead because your approval makes no difference in their life.
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I've had another dream of the 2030 /gq/ meta it came to me while I was sleeping on the bus to my 2:30 AM shift at the guard shack behind Mcdonalds watching homeless people fuck and A2 sitting on his phone playing candy crush.
>1. Surveillance becomes so pervasive that everyone is known every place they are. The "overworld" now has no privacy.
>2. Those in the know regress their technology to before all the backdoors and hardware-level call homes were around. Pentium 4 windows 95 desktops brah.
>3. Based men use cassette players to record messages encoded using code words and one time pads, transmitted on foot by runners in thermal ponchos.
>4. They waddle in the tunnels, risky business but it brings in the money.
>5. No thermal poncho means no survival. X-ray scopes are real and the majestic twelve assassins can see your thoughts.
>6. Men speak of the tunnels in hushed tones. You must do a favor to get a favor and to do a favor you must curry favor with the rat king.
>7. The tunnels connect all structures and all real men.
>8. There's even a gym in the tunnels. comfy shit man.
>9. Yet in the tunnels men drive themselves nuts. In far-away echos they hear infographic anon and that other guy yell about whether the Hesco 4805 has a boron suboxide or pure boron strike face and how that makes a difference against tungsten heavy alloy 7.62x54 made in small batches deep in a siberian lair. All ten bullets, because one of them may be somewhere.
>10. Everyone shits ass and nobody has immodium.
>11. life sucks.
>>63829654>gets outed as a underage noguns >samefags 3 times seething and calling me a boomerlmao calling you a 15yo got you fucking riled up
>>63829669I think he was just asking for evidence of ownership because making authoritative infographics about things you've never touched is both inherently absurd and has no more value than auto-generated amazon recommendations. If you can be doxxed by a pic of generic boltcutters, then that's really down to your own incompetence.
>>63829754You are sad man with smol pp who thinks three men are one man.
>>63829760And I don't really care enough to take pictures of my shit for the approval or disapproval of random people I'll never meet.
>It's absurd1?!Yes. That makes it entertaining!
>>63829760I try to use the gear I have and I try not to talk about stuff I haven't used or things I haven't done in these threads
for example last thread I was the guy talking about being hurt in the woods since I have had my legs fucked up while out in the woods and have had to literally crawl back to civilization
otherwise it's mostly just repeating things over dudes have said on pootube or extrapolating ideas based on that
>>63829770You're a disingenuous faggot.
>BRO THEY'RE GOING TO DOX ME IF I POST MY GEAR>ACTUALLY I JUST DON'T WANT TO POST IT CAUSE I DON'T CARE BROYou're a fag. Simple as.
This is sad. This entire general is sad. We should just pack it up and go. It's done, over. We can't do any more. It's over for us. Bunkbed guy left us. We have no more fight. No more will. Only sadness remains.
>>63829809tactical advantage of sadness?
>>63829813I need to wait for infograph schizo to tell me about the ten kinds of depression and whether level III depression can stop happiness first. Without bunkbed guy this has no purpose. We're down bad. In the dumps. It's so slow, the threads drifting by like a piss stain in the flooded Hurricane katrina carpet. No meaning, all so meaningless.
We are but meaningless text in a noncorporeal sea. What is sadness but yearning for a crye avs that got lost in the mail?
>>63829822>I need to wait for infograph schizo to tell me about the ten kinds of depression and whether level III depression can stop happiness first.lmao
>>63829754>Three people are telling me I am gay, they must be the same personSchizophrenia must be wild.
But what is the root cause of this sadness? We are but gear queers. We discuss gear... and there's no discussion of gear. Only people. People are but sand in a desert. Fleeting and evasive like bunkbed guy, long gone and long missed. The sadness pervades us, penetrates us, emasculates us. Gear is eternal unless chinese and we are now chinese. We are temporary.
What is the purpose of our struggle? To talk about the same vests and placards again and again and again? What existence is this? It is but purgatory in the fast food bathroom. Generallg unpleasant and sad, but occasionally stinky. Oh so very stinky.
We should call it quits. Without bunkbed guy /gq/ is meaningless.
>>63829809>>63829822I think /k/ in general is a victim of itself. The smarty-pants shilled for going outside and learning stuff and I have a feeling people who actually did that have fucked off from /k/.
I drop off for a few months at a time but even then I have to come back here for the niche autism to ask questions about German G3 mag pouches and what not.
Also infograph man, please keep up the gud work. I throw those at my friends who ask for advice on shit. Your work matters.
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>>63829863Checking back in from time to time as well, this is certainly the case.
Started going to 2 gun events at my local range with a friend, and now just discuss gear with them mostly.
Too many spastics on /k/ that just um-actually eachother all day, especially the reddit ukranian fans and the body armor people
>>63829809Losing BBG with his actual advice is tragic. Maybe he got into a cool guy unit, God willing
>>63828628 (OP)What are most ~prepared citizen~ kits on gq actually missing? I am thinking proper comms (and knowledge of how to use them, what channels, etc) and larger medical kit/training and booboo shit. guns and mags are cool but I feel like medical and comms are far more likely to be used and people should aim to be the best civilian 18D/E they can be
>>63829881>guns and mags are cool but I feel like medical and comms are far more likely to be used and people should aim to be the best civilian 18D/E they can beI agree, but commo is predicated on having someone to talk/listen to. I don't have homies with radios, so effectively my Yaesu is a desk ornament while I listen to trains with it.
>>63829886True but even having all local repeaters programmed in to listen to, NOAA channels for weather if those even exist in the future lel (in an extreme case where you dont have cell service).
i am lacking here but i imagine there are other frequencies that would be used by emergency services in a katrina or major wildfire evac scenario
>>63829910>>63829886i've printed and laminated some 3x5 sized cards with a list of local repeater frequencies/locations, starting there along with progamming said freqs with your friends radios is helpful
>>63829918I just keep a copy of my chirp settings, and a chirp .exe on a thumb drive that attaches to my keys, and keep the data cable in a pouch on my plate carrier. Technically speaking, I can upload our comms channels to anyone with a computer in a situation.
>>63829770>I don't really care enough to take pictures of my shit for the approval or disapproval of random people I'll never meet.But you do care enough to create MULTIPLE gay useless infographics of chink bullshit like a child salivating over a toy catalog. And you care enough to religiously post them every 24 hours despite 100% of people ITT calling you a faggot and telling you to stop.
Actually hilarious to see your downfall in the space of 2 posts
>IโฆI canโt post my gear youโll d-dox me>Iโฆiโฆ.d-donโt c-care enough to p-post my gearPathetic bitchmade unironic noguns teenage incel
>>63829881>What are most ~prepared citizen~ kits on gq actually missing?depends on a few things, most bad situations you may have are disasters so for me who lives in a earthquake zone and somewhat rural I have (asides from guns and stuff)
>water, also some kind of portable filtration system but actual water too>canned/freeze dried/preserved food>extra medical, extra fire extinguisher, >emergency blankets, can never have enough imo use multiple to get comfy>radio>chainsaw and just to leave at the home
>generator>2 extra gas cans that get refilled/rotated regularly>>63829886>comms but no one to talk toreminder that in a bad situation your radio could/will be the only way to communicate with the outside world at all
I've been out of cell service and had to radio for help and I tell you whut those old ham boomer fucks are god damn saints, bless those lads
>>63830055>But you do care enough to create MULTIPLE gay useless infographics of chink bullshit like a child salivating over a toy catalog. And you care enough to religiously post them every 24 hours despite 100% of people ITT calling you a faggot and telling you to stop.Does anybody actually like or use the infographics? It's just some obnoxious hyperautist cataloging useless shit, like scam thermal ponchos from eBay and Etsy, and armor plates from "Pragati", lmao. The guy should take a break and touch grass unironically. I don't think that he actually uses or owns any gear.
>>63830446It's pretty clear he's either an unironic teenager who's too young to own guns or he's prohibited from firearm ownership due to mental illness. He probably can't enlist for the same reason and his concept of what is 'affordable' is worse than that of a welfare nigger in section 8 housing. The faggot can't fathom paying $30 for a mag pouch and unironically searches out $10 chink replicas because $20 is a lot of pocket money for him. He never includes surplus in his stupid little pictures either because he watches hours of milsim airsoft videos full of manchildren dressed in chink repro Crye gear and in his deluded mind he thinks it's a sound financial decision to buy a shit-tier toy Navy SEAL dress up costume and 'breaching tools'
This faggot is the number one biggest cancer to have ever posted in this general. The sooner he kills himself or fucks off the better.
>>63830446Maybe if I was just starting out but I only come here on the rare occasion to ask a specific question. By the time I am at that stage I have already decided on the parameters of what I want so I'm just looking for some brand recommendations. I've probably already checked out the big ones so I'm hoping there is some company I overlooked or forgot about.
From my outside perspective it seems like everyone here either already knows what they are doing or is set in their ways. There aren't enough new people asking questions so it's just you, I'm guessing three or four guys, hanging out with each other and getting pissed off at your slight differences. Maybe the riots and Iran will drive some more traffic in here, I know the covid/blm era was pretty great in here.
>>63830880>>63830465>>63830446meta conversations about /gq/ posters are equally annoying
>>63830965Shut the fuck up faggot.
>guy frothing at the mouth literally pulls an all nighter to scream at the ceiling about some guy that makes infographs
no wonder he's not giving you pictures. actual mental illness
>>63831001I just woke up and that was my first post on the subject. It wasn't even out of line but you hit me with the
>i-im annoyedDid I ask? Go cry some more you limp dick faggot.
>>63831042>I-I just woke up!>literally been posting all night>you can track him by the word "faggot" being used in every post in the same wayok.
>>63831066I did just wake up. If I'm not the only one calling you a faggot then maybe this is a good time to reflect on yourself.
>>63831117>Mommy I did just wake up! I did i swear!
>>63831126Pathetic. I can see why the other anons called you a faggot.
>>63831139>I can see why me called everyone faggit last night. Me think everybody is info autism man.>AN INFOGRAPH JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
>>63831183See all I said about the infographics is that I don't look at them. I'm not whoever you think you are arguing with. It was also my first post itt. No wonder everyone left.
Damn, it appears this thread went to pot last night. Anyways, made a quick update to the shields infographic.
I also decided to drag out some of my shit. As infographic anon, I will be the first to actually post gear and discuss gear, except taken on a 90s floppy disk camera for the aesthetic.
1. Generic pair of boltcutters. Boring!
2. Stanley fatmax xtreme
3. My AR, (yeah, it's a saint, lol). Burris thermal and a Chinese DBAL-A4 knockoff.
4. my front L210 because I'm too lazy to pull both out of my carrier for a photo op, saving for 4601s and 4101 sides.
And here's the timestamp up top with the lights on.
>>63829881>Maybe he got into a cool guy unit, God willingI think last time he posted he was getting out, they probably medically discharged him before the forced clot shit killed him
>>63831747He just dipped afterwards? That sucks.
>>63829910>>63829918>>63830280>I was dumb and stand rebukedYou guys thought of shit I didn't and I will eat my BS and admit my wrongness. Thank you for correcting me.
>t. Yaesu anon
>>63831373>saving for 4601s and 4101 sideslol wut?
Those plates are the definition of mid and hardly any better than the L210s you have right now.
For somebody who poorfags so hard, this seems like a retarded waste of money.
>>63833100They're certified Level IV, lighter than the 4403s, and also rated for 7.62x51 M80 six times so you make no compromises on multi-hit versus a good III+ like the 19513. I like having full Level IV headroom, especially against M80A1. I'm a touch poorfag but I'm strategic about it, the full set will be somewhat more than my thermal.
L210s will be repurposed for something else.
>>638334770101.06 is dead so the certification doesn't mean shit. I think that FIT tests are already over. Also, Hesco's "certifications" have historically been a bit iffy. 4400, 4401, 4402(?), 4403. . . .
Why not just wait for the new CPL and get a plate with a current certification, if that's what matters to you? Put your money where your mouth is and buy some light+cheap Militechs in the meantime, lol.
>>63833634I'd love to buy Militech's RF3 Black but they're still being a bitch about tariffs and aren't selling to the US, lol.
4400, 4600, 3410, 3610 IIRC were the problem plates. All were resolved timely and peoples' plates were recalled / replaced. 4401, 4402 (this was basically not released), 4403 are all fine. Ditto for the rest of their lineup 0101.07 will probably get delayed again and I'm not waiting that long.
Militech straight up lies as to why they have no certs. Even though their plates perform well, that's a red mark.
I asked fishing general on /out/, but I think everyone has gone fishing
Guys, I lost 40 lbs and my shit is fucking loose now (inb4 "lost 40 lbs? go find it!)
Recommend me some good breathable shirts with some UV protection and new pants. I don't care if I have to use suspenders. I was looking at stuff like Helikon Tex and MAYBE lightweight wool button down shirts? I like to dress business casual enough to blend into office then immediately go to the streams or lakes without having to change. Currently my favorite shirt is a Beretta field shirt that is long discontinued. Helikon Tex seems nice
>>63833802Helikon-Tex clothing is garbage-tier. I've literally had to throw some of it into the trash, it was so unsalvageable. Just weird cuts, weird sizing, weird and inappropriate fabric stiffness... absolutely everything about it was terrible.
>>63834067Do they just not know how to make clothes or is there a defective product problem? If they're taking the piss that bad I'd be curious if there's some inventory comingling going on
>>63834067Shit
What are alternatives? I really like the Beretta field shirt I snagged but those aren't made anymore
>>63833802I like huk shirts. I was wearing one today but it only got up to 99 so nbd. The pants I wear got discontinued and I haven't found an alternative.
>>63834280Correction, it got up to 102.
>>63834067depends what you buy
I've been using their "patriot" fleece for a couple years in the woods and it does its job
but their m65 pants and what not aren't anything special may as well buy surplus
I can't speak to their shirts or anything
>>63831001You have no idea what timezone Iโm in you cocksucking nigger.
>>63831373kek so youโre a pathetic poorfag wagie who owns a set of harbor freight bolt cutters which youโve never used and has a chink replica IR laser and no NODs. Youโre a pathetic gay faggot. Put the barrel of your rifle in your mouth and paint the fucking ceiling.
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What is the actual skinny on the Eagle Yote or similar Firstspear/AWS 50649 packs? Are they good?
I'm looking for something to wear over Alice/LBE without a buttpack, basically for a Tarp, Atom, Nods with skullcap, Notetaking gear, rifle cleaning gear, phone wallet keys. I like the yote not because I could carry a helmet but because I could stuff a fairly large goretex jacket or a poncho liner
>>63836389>wear over ALICE>buy a $300 tiny memebag to wear over the top of 50 year old surplus worth $30Buy an ALICE medium they cost like $20-30 on Ebay. Also look for other surplus backpacks from European armies.
Posting gear in the gear thread.
>>63829622i got 'chu
i appreciate the infographics
i will wait for the response of "blackhawk tools, ngmi"
have their collapsible sledge as well. it just think its neat
>>63828628 (OP)talk me out of buying german web surplus
>>63828797wheres a good vendor for those tools whats a good starter kit for learning
>>63836852tahts cool what is the pack thing called? is the back part padded with cushion to prevent hammering your back while running?
>>63829747You'd be a good sci-fi writer, ought to write a story.
>>63830465Based. Teenage eurocuck infographics are so annoying
>>63829881For the prepared citizen, sustenance gear and clearing equipment (saws, axes). As far as specifically combat related equipment? Ewar shit, like drones and faraday bags.
>>63829881Depends on what you mean by "missing." Having extra medical beyond your ifak in a backpack is pretty common, and yes, you should have a radio on your kit.
>>63836852>pristine never-used tools>still in the bag>photographed inside on a wooden apartment floor while wearing socksYouโre a tactical funko pop collector
>>63837766do you own a G3 or FAL? If so, it is your dharma to buy this. If you do not, you have no business owning this and it's shit for any other rifle or mags.
>>63838367What do you get out of camping out on this thread all day and night just so you can whine about people owning gear? Don't you have to go get ready to die for Israel?
>>63837766I will not. But he's right.
>>63838487Unless going full retro vintage larp, there are fer better options for the same $50 you can get a full kit from RTG for. The German gear uses cotton webbing. The only real drawback. The unissued US milsurp FLC or TAPS is a far better foundation for AR base. No pic cuz I'm lame.
>>63838572He ain't right in the head man.
>>63828723Menendez, /nvg/ just fucking died. /gq/ is victorious.
>>63838597>No picI used to have a TAPS setup
>>63837766I asked about that stuff here once before and I was roundly told it sucks balls, cotton, etc. I cannot tell you what to do with yer money.
ALICE adapters exist for those mag pouches if that's what you're wanting most.
German to ALICE to PALS? I don't know but now I need to.
Any advice on acquiring a legitimate Gorka 4?
I know Kommandostore creates their own better versions, which I'll nab when they're available, but I'd like a true anorak style too. Would Demych or greyshop be the way to go?
Preferably new because I don't want to wear the user clothes of an drunken inbred rapist.
>>63838696Well well well, how the turns have tabled. Introducing the... /gq/ LAM infographic!
As usual (like I did with the spicy radios) I went into a tangent and put too many dazzlers on there. Enjoy!
>>63838760>>63838760>used toLooks like you still do, with the usual 1st level gear mods. But change out that harness and keep at it.
>>63836852>Maul head on a hatchet handleI do not like this.
>>63838572There used to be an actual jew in israel who would do that. He might still be here. Everyone who knew about him is gone so he can probably get away with it now.
>>63839882what the fuck is that for anyway? doors? I get its supposed to be part of the irons with the halligan but mauls suck ass to swing
>>63839955I presume it's for busting down something after you use the bolt cutters to cut locks
>mauls suck ass to swingWith a short handle definitely. Long handle they're fine, I used to regularly use them for firewood.
>>63839955>mauls suck ass to swingLike that other anon said, short handle yes.
Otherwise quit being a puss. Maybe I am the only fucker here who actually enjoys splitting firewood the manual way with tools I've re-furbished.
>>63838572You could make a simple 2x2 matrix of the types of people who browse these threads (or this board for that matter). On X axis you can be either be a Gucci snob, or "good 'nuff" type. On the Y axis you can either be a consoomer/collector or a practical user
Each one of four corners are insufferable in their own right
which helmet cover do I get for my nv setup guys? I cant decide
>>63840721What state do you live in? If it's not West of the rockies, you're appropriating my culture with the one on the left.
>>63837776Covert Instruments Genesis set is good quality for 25 bucks, it will keep you occupied for a while. You can definitely save a couple bucks buying from another company or from amazon and get a few extra profiles, but a basic rule of thumb is that if its marketed as a begginer set but has 6 gorrilion different tools odds are 99 percent of them are useless. Find a begginer kit with a few different rakes, hooks, and turning tools, and you will learn what you need to branch out from their off youtube.
just use whatever cheap pad locks you have laying around or get some master locks from the store to learn the basics, then watch some youtube and find some slightly harder locks
>>63840750you can get some clear locks for cheap on amazon so you can see whats going on to get started single pin picking, but once you get the hang of it you wont need to use it anymore, so just get no more than 3 different brand clear locks to have a small variety to get you going and then just get some real locks off facebook marketplace or yard sales
>>63840772My kit came with two of the clear locks. One pad lock and one door lock. I got a smaller kit though, not one of the 99 piece ones.
>>63840782good, you dodged the number one beginner mistake, enjoy
>>63840729I live in Montana, im east of the rockies but I can see them from my window
moving to AK soon but not sure if they even have coons there so it might be wierd
>>63840729>Daniel Boone from Tennessee >west of the RockiesThe absolute state of American public education.
>>63840811https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hwqdQ0SkjQ
your tellin me danl goon is from Tennessee and not a movie star in Yosemite?
>>63840824https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PIsHh8MXs
should have posted this one :/
>>63840811Daniel Boone was a faggot who couldn't hack it in the rockies. That's why he stayed in the flat lands, being a faggot.
>>63840811>TennesseeKentucky.
>>63840833he spent the rest of his days in Missouri, which is pretty much the extent of America at the time, he probably didnt even know the rockies existed, and if he did he was too old at that point
>>63840833>he stayed in the flat lands>Cumberland Gap>flatThe absolute state of American public education.
>>63840862>cumberland gap>keyword gap>as in a gap in the mountains>keywords gap in the mountains>flatthe absolute state of American public education
>>63840857Gay nigga couldn't even just walk West. His homosexuality prevented it.
>>63840862>Cumberland gap 1,601 feet>Not the flatlandsYou faggot flatlanders are funny. I spent the weekend at 9,700 feet. Daniel fag ass Boone couldn't even dream of it.
>>63840919I don't need to, my point has been made. Daniel Boone was a faggot. Simple as.
>>63840897>eggsaj a ratred relief
>>63840924>Daniel Boone was a faggot.>Daniel Boone and his wife, Rebecca Bryan Boone, had ten children. Their names were: James, Israel, Susannah, Jemima, Levina, Rebecca, Daniel Morgan, Jesse Bryan, William Bryan, and Nathan. Not looking very gay.
>>63841080>autism activated>nuh uh he wasn't gayHe was a faggot, and you're a faggot. Die mad about it.
>>63840791Yeah I got this one kit a long time ago that really sucked so I at least learned what I donโt want. It had this heavy metal handle with interchangeable picks but the weight made it hard to feel the input from the pins. The new kit is very light and I can feel what Iโm doing.
>>63838487what about an M1A
I've been checking gq guide image stickies for a while. Was there ever a "Medical kit" guide? did I miss it?
>>63841427https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_--5fuM1Dc
Here, fuck you.
WHAT DO I BUY?
I'm looking for a taper mounting QD muzzle device/mount pair to attach one universal 30 cal can and swap it between five different barrels. What's the best option? Already have the guns and can (DT WLVRN & Hux Ventum)
Priorities:
>actually in stock somewhere
>repeatable PoI shift after mount/dismount
>small PoI shift between mounted/unmounted
>hub compatible
>matte finish (fuck you, Q)
>lowest priority is cost, but it'd be nice to have something not a gorrillion dollars
Seems like silencerco ASR and deadair hub mount are the best according to internet memes but I don't have experience or data to actually quantify that.
Thoughts?
>>63841090I'll die topping your mom, thx.
>>63841294Pouches fit mags.
>>63841522What general do you think you are in?
>>63841766The one full of people who have autism about weapons, accessories, and gear - not just nylon
>>63841888Trips checked and based.
>>63841427There's one in progress I think and a very old one out there
>>63841952>good ideaI was struck by the simpcity and relevance of his idea, too. Nice work.
>>63841952Is unused FLC upper left?
>>63839388Why not add the Peq-6/14 LAM 1000 whatever the fuck its called, $600ish on tacswap for a full power IR/vis light and laser for a pistol
Where the hell do I get OMNI 7/8 tubes or PVS14s for decent prices? Just lurk ebay until one shows up?
Anyone got any info about budget belt setups?
>>63837829blackhawk/dynamic entry call it the "60ME00BK - Manual Entry Tool Pack"
>>63838367>while wearing sockssome of us just have the shekels for such luxuries goyim
>>63842067Pistol MFALs are being saved for the 1.01 version, I wanted to get the 1.00 out real quick since /gq/ apparently absorbed /nvg/ as of this morning.
>>63842314ebay or tacswap. Ebay has better buyer protections in csse you get screwed, but tacswap is the more "serious" platform and will have better deals.
Also has less buyer protections and it's easier to get boned. Ebay strongly favors the buyer in nearly all disputes.
>>63842609Fucking eBay
>Put a model train up for sale>Pictures in broad daylight showing obvious maroon color>Seller buys it>Get a message a day after arrival that the paint is brown and he is returning it>Bitch at him that it's maroon>Returned anyway cuz buyer protection
>>63842844Ah yes, the INAD! Ultimate trump card.
You can basically declare almost anything as "item not as described", get a free return, and then the burden rests with the seller to show his description / pictures are flawless and the item was as described.
imove
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>>63839388>>63837934Once more I have had another dream of the /gq/ meta, but this time in 2040. It came to me in a dream after I had too much Benadryl and shit my brains out.
>The year is 2040. Everyone is rich and simultaneously broke - with everything they could want and debt up to their eyeballs to show for it.>Money is abolished. Crypto is completely mainstream and regularly seized for nefarious reasons by the federales.>All based men now use the barter system, with a couple neckbeards in the corner using silver and gold but are unable to figure out if it's legit.>Aliexpress becomes even more based and begins permitting the barter system using tasks. Do tasks for the Chinese overlords, verified by their surveillance drones, and you are shipped goods in return.>/gq/ men hide in tunnels, except now expanded with all the luxuries one could want, including air filtration, sanitation, and air conditioning with running water and electricity.>The meta now revolves around increasingly more powerful Chinese replica dazzlers.>Released two years ago in 2038 was the Somogear LA-22/U, now 500mW and with an override on the ranging safety.>It can blind men in a single flash.>War has changed. We now use melee weapons. Katana, Naginata, Rapiers & daggers, spears and mauls - even fire axes. This saves us bullets, which are tracked and reserved for extreme situations.>They even stopped making most common calibers. The M7 rifle, unable to pierce Militech's Super XSAPI Supremes, has been replaced by the 8.6mm NGER, next generation enhanced rifle and asteroid-mined Iridium alloy bullets.>The US pays a shitload to Martian Emperor Elon every year for the Iridium.>To handle ranged warfare, we use dazzlers. All kinds of dazzlers. Blind the enemy and close the distance in the tunnels. The overworld is a death trap anyway, nobody except the NPCs have been up there in years, so it's easier to just melee your enemies.>/gq/ elites get the yellow laser GLARE.
>>63838572If you post gay larperator shit you will rightly get called a faggot. You obviously don't work a job which requires you to 'breach' anything because if you did there would be wear and tear on the tools. You spent over $1000 on a collection of paperweights which you'll never take outside your inner city apartment.
This is sad. This entire conversation is sad. We should just pack it up and go return the Blackhawk! tools to walmart It's done, over. I lost the receipt. We can't breach any more. It's over for us. A2 abandooned us. We have no more pry. No more steel. Only sadness remains at harbor freight.
>>63838597should i get the $50 USMC rig from rtg
>>63841952>>63841986thanks, im honored <3
>>63842394How budget are we talking abou?
Arbor Arms used to make a complete budget belt setup called the Good'nuff Belt. Sadly it's discontinued, but you can start with their Ultralight MOLLE belt ($40) and add some good pouches (Esstac). If you want to pay less, Amazon and airshit brands will have stuff. It'll last a little while. Replace components as they fail.
>>63843637>rtgSomebody somewhere has a bug up thier ass over RTG. I have had nothing but the best service for a single return. Their shipping isn't Midway ludicrous speed, slower than Venture, my goto. But they have interesting options and I buy from them, tho not since '21. The idea is the FLC is so cheap (was) having a couple around was just silly not to.
>>63843689>I made the portage squareYey
>>63843727>tfw didnt make itcant make the gun collage, cant make the gear square. why everyone hates me?
>>63843747It's the whining.
>>63843757reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>63841952bottom left of the poorfag/practical quadrant?
>>63843775An ACU rifleman bundle should be in every gun owner's closet.
>>63841952approaching gucci/practical?
>>63843796>gucciTooo heavy! Gucci is cottage crafted ultralight.
GQ, what's a good brand for large (65L+) packs with PALS webbing? Preferrably European but doesn't have to be, I just want something I can find locally and not have to ship from the world over.
Full disclosure, I am noguns, but I like PALS on my bags for pouch configurability (and some LARP factor, who am I kidding).
>>63843796that stuffsack is bigger than my entire pack
>>63843841savotta? depends if you like the top opener bags are not
>>63843840>>63843844True, but it costs as much as surplus body armor
>>63843858>but it costs as much as surplus body armorTrue. But at least I use my 15oz quilt.
>>63829508> Cheap vests will fall apartNot here to start fights but that literally isn't true. My PC is a literal 10$ yard sale purchase I that use duct tape and thread I found in an abandoned building to keep the armor in and it holds up just fine to regular hikes in the woods.
And I know I'm not THAT good of a craftsman.
>>63843902thats mold isnt it
>>63843848I do like top openers, but Savotta is too gucci for me (for how few bells and whistles their Jaakari packs offer).
I'd probably pay that sort of cash if I went on weeklong marches all the time, but I need a large pack 4-5 times a year max, so I can't really justify it.
>>63843858>surplus>body>armorI have been summoned
>>63843921surplus probably has the best cheaper options
>>63829747You are our oracle at Delphi. God bless.
>>63841952What is "practical gucci"? What is "poorfag consoomer"?
I guess the former are real special squirrel tacticool operators, but these don't hang out in /gq/, they hang out in Langley or Quantico.
Speaking of gucci and packs.
Is Eberlestock any good?
>>63843909> it gives me strength and sound wisdom when I need it the mostnah it's some shitty 3$ walmart spray paint. Normal black fabric on UCP everything looked bad. Now it looks bad and is also green as well.
>>63830446I think they're kinda fun.
>>63843971>3$ walmart spray paintokay that is a relief. i have seen mold that looks just like that on black gear (it was my gear)
>>63843950>poorfag consoomerRothco, MT Military
lord help me I lost control and consoomed myself out of a few hundred smackeroos, and I still need an isomat
>>63843971> UCP Literally no idea why I wrote that. Meant to say multicam.
Probably the only "gucci" item I own that was worth it. This made me not want to not wear cargo pants ever. Love these little shits.
>>63839490Nah, it's an old picture, I swapped it out for a velsys 5.56 hybrid rig
>>63836667
the chinese have their own version of ITAR, or is there another reason why we don't see thermal imagers with resolutions higher than 512 more commonly?
>>63844411320 and 640 are like the two-option standard, so Iโm not sure what youโre talkong about. 1280 sensors are starting to hit the civilian market too.
>>63844411Its not just a digital camera, it sees a whole different wavelength. Plus everything has heat including the scope itself, if the photon sensors were too densely packed they'd detect their each others heat which would create noise in the image, this is why mounted thermals are generally cooled. Its all getting better though. Another factor is demand affecting economy of scale.
>>63844212>swapped it out for a velsys 5.56In that case a WG flectarn rig.. RTG just advertized a bundle for $50. That shit is drying up.
>>63828628 (OP)Should I get a chest rig or save up for a plate carrier?
>>63845074Depends on what youll use it for. If you're frequenting this general you probably want a plate carrier so you can attach all your cool collectible items on one rig (and totally have an advantage in the booger). if you just need something to hold a few items and magazines because you participate in 2 gun then a chest rig is what you want.
>>63845277Lmao, it's kind of funny how pissy you get when people own gear. Like a little baby who doesn't get his bottle lol.
>>63845305He might die if he doesn't have a strap cutter leashed to his armor. There is no debate here.
>>63845326Just ordered a new plate carrier just for you bb
>>63831834Or someone asked where all the expired sirk IIs and cats went and now he's in military prison
>>63845326He might also not make it if he doesn't spend $2,000 to save 1.1lb on lighter plates.
>IN DA STREETZ
>>63845487Guantanamo bay with no survivurs.
>>63839955It could probably be used to split a wood door, if someone was dumb enough to reinforce the lock and door frame but not the door
>>63840407Splitting wood was hours of fun for pre-teen me
Stacking it, on the other hand, was gay
>>63845528>Splitting wood was hours of fun for pre-teen me>Stacking it, on the other hand, was gayA cool fall day swinging axes and sipping ciders or whiskey is a good day
>>63836852>i will wait for the response of "blackhawk tools, ngmi"Allow me to be the first
>Blackhawkl tools, ngmiJunk tools
>>63828948>if you're at the point where you're considering carrying thermal lances and oxy torches you're either breaking into bunkers and bank vaults or you should just figure out how to use explosives.How do you plan to explode jail cell doors?
>>63844411>or is there another reason why we don't see thermal imagers with resolutions higher than 512 more commonly?The dies for them are brand new so they are expensive.
China doesnt really have an ITAR , just limits on what constitutes a weapon/weapon components. None of which involves thermals.
>>63841522>Dead air>The bestSome sort of cruel joke post.
ASR is decent but for 30cal make sure its the newest generation of ASR
>>63843902Have your stepdad drag you down the driveway in it a couple times.
>>63844126Are these Tru spec?
>>63846036Never mind me, reverse image searching immediately brought them up.
>200 dollarsDamn.
>>63845487He posts on instagram pretty frequently.
>>63845338Better leash a seat belt cutter to to live, and stuff.
>>63846262Oh, I didn't know he transitioned to a 16yo girl
>>63846262So why'd he dip from here?
>>63839388Hey I can testify to my SomoGear PEQ15 Green holding up quite well. Been innawoods a couple types at this point and even after pissing rain it still holds zero and hasnt caused the illuminator or lasers to bloom. I will say on my first trip I was worried that I had a dud, the laser would die after every shot. I contacted Somo and they asked if I had tightened the battery cap. Im a certified retard kek, worked fine after twisting harder.
Ugh look at this brand new unused gear. He probably hasn't even rolled in the mud with it to make it look worn. omg he doesn't even have water. kwab.
>>63846925>unusedYes, that must mean it is useless.
>>63846943If it was good they would have kept it for themselves.
>>63846957I know, right? Not even colour matched, not very fashionable. 2 style.point demerits.
>>63846971It is pretty funny how the mag pouches are different colors even though they are from the same company and ordered from the same place.
>>63846778The problem with somogear is they work well until they donโt, my somo peq15 held zero and worked fine 700 rounds in but bricked itself when it rained on a shooting outing. Iโve heard from friends that theirs worked when they got theirs but suddenly got catastrophic zero shifts at some point down the line.
Recommend me some decent IIIA 11x5.5 soft armor inserts for a cummerbund. Looking to spend about $100 - $150ish. Go.
>>63847211Mine got instakilled by my shotgun on the first range trip. Internals completely screwed. Got an HFXC to replace it and it's been flawless for hundreds of shells since.
Speaking of the HFXC, a red laser version is now available, at least on pre order.
Any reason I shouldnโt get a Helikon Tex Chicom rig? Itโll be used for AUG mags.
>>63828628 (OP)NV question here since theres no /nvg/gers thread atm
If I am cross eye dominant(right handed, left eye dominant) which eye do I wear my PVS14 over?
I am told that the army teaches that you should wear the NV over your left eye in case you need to use white light to shoot your rifle normally, but I assume this is intended with right handed and right eye dominant shooters in mind because they are the overwhelming majority
does cross eye dominance give me an advantage here? since I can have my monocular over my dominant eye and still be used to shooting right handed?
>>63845043Nah I'm good dog.
>>63843775How did you get this pic of my exact setup?
>>63843724i love rtg robert is based and redpilled. its a one man operation with good prices who cares if they dont do same day shipping
where can i get one of those black and white reflective american flag patches, looked around a bit couldnโt find them
>>63850767https://www.amazon.com/Reflective-Tactical-American-America-Military/dp/B0BZRF5RWM?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&smid=A13ZGS3OFLTO2D&gQT=1&th=1
>>63830446I used them to pick out a belt and sling in the past. I also save the ones centered around armor because I am a /bag/fugee. I don't know why people are up in arms about it since I think it's a good curated list. It's just missing methodology as to why these items were added
The infographics are a good starting point for noobs. They're certainly much better than the old infographics, which were little more than a collage of items with no info regarding why you'd pick one thing over another.
Problem is, seems like there are very few noobs coming to /k/ anymore. I hang around various corners of the internet, and there's far more (and often better) discussions about guns and gear other places. Discord, Telegram, Xitter, even fucking reddit.
Most of this board is kids from countries where you can't even carry a knife or OC spray, never mind own firearms.
>>63851225> Problem is, seems like there are very few noobs coming to /k/ anymore. I hang around various corners of the internet, and there's far more (and often better) discussions about guns and gear other places. Discord, Telegram, Xitter, even fucking reddit.lol, lmao
Stop trying to shill your Discord for the 12304971th time. Don't you get tired of your posts getting deleted? Also everything you've written is complete bullshit and it's totally obvious that you're not even from around here.
>>63851180There is no methodology to any of them, it's just "feels"
>>63830446There was a point where they were actually kind of useful. I used the msg pouch one and it served me well. But now we're at a point where the dude is listing the sorts of shit that no one in this thread is going to be using or getting their hands on. The infographics were useful once, but are now so bloated with fluff that they're not worth using anymore. The autist making them really made it his life's purpose or something to the point he's constantly updating and tweaking them, so they're massively inconsistent too. Guy needs to take a break and refocus on the essentials. I mean the fact that there's an infographic for fucking jammers but not one for what to put in an ifak is fucking ludicrous.
>>63851293Have you ever considered seeking treatment for you mental illness? I don't have a Discord server, and I've been on 4chan since 2005. You were likely in diapers then, if you were even born yet.
>>63851361> I don't have a Discord server, and I've been on 4chan since 2005Yet Reddit-spacing and acting like a retarded and befuddled "noob."
You're probably the smoothbrain who swings by to post about Discord every month. Or you're just a garden-variety newfag.
>>63851307They used to be pretty much organic and lots of people used to contribute. Now it's literally one hyper-autist who has a fixation on shit that's totally useless and impractical at best. At worst, he's a sucker for outright scams, like Ukrainian thermal ponchos on eBay and "PRAGATI" plates, which just makes everybody look extremely stupid.
>>63843950yes i would agree that people who have gucci gear and actually get mileage out of it are most likely to be real world operators and don't hang out ITT. But the compass is as much of a mindset thing, it would equally apply to people who have a practical understanding of how gear works and where quality makes a difference. Maybe you could change the Y axis to experienced vs Cargo cult or something idk.
>>63846925what an atrocious rug
>>63843689Shocked my handmade poverty vest didn't make the poorfag/practical corner but then I realized there'd actually have to be a secret third axis of schizo/uncreative for that to be the case
>>63851569Oh, I don't know. Digital elephant puke and random poacher blood stain camo is trending lately.
>>63851657>look at me!You are witnessed.
Question, can I use 11x5 soft armor inserts in a cummerbund that fits 13.75x5.5 inserts? Or do I need to get the exact specified size that my cummerbund states?
>>63843902>year 20XX>civil war>this is the last thing you see after you hear your front door being kicked in>you manage to chuckle as you bleed out
>>63851569Meanie.
>>63851882What's more fucked up is my guns blend in really well on it so sometimes I forget they are there and trip over them.
>>63851461The ponchos are literally 1-3 layers of thermal insulative material. It's not rocket science and they can be made in a garage with basic equipment & materials... hence why there's like fifty models out of Ukraine. Ebay also has super strong buyer protections, so if they ship shit file an INAD and make the bitches pay return shipping.
Besides that the Indiamart infographic is clearly a shitpost, Pragati needs to get certifications before they're really trustworthy. Their specs however check out for being SiC+PE or B4C+PE layups. They're fairly mid plates given their compositions. Better than your average Hesco (almost their entire white-side lineup on paper), competitive at the high end (Defender M993) with a twelve year old LTC plate. They aren't slinging four pound standalone XSAPI bullshit like Rook Armor a few threads back.
There's no channel for buying Pragati / SMPP, so they basically are shitpost material. The Aliexpress guide is more serious but has my signature "joke options" here and there too. Nobody should take the $85,000 cooled thermal binos seriously. I like to have a little fun and include oddball shit. This isn't P&S, doesn't have to be 100% serious all the time for everything.
>>63851307Don't worry, IFAK guide is still a work in progress along with updating belts / mag pouches. I prioritized jammers because they act as a foil to the three radio infographics and also because they aren't really documented anywhere else in an infograph. You can go thirty places to get an IFAK guide. It will be done, though.
>>63851225Much appreciated! You raise good points.
>>63851180Also great points. What do you propose exactly regarding methodology? A short blurb is definitely doable, or a separate "Armor 101" infographic.
>>63852898>jammers>three different infographics for radios that no one here is actually using>no basic IFAK, mag pouch, or belt guideHonestly anon, it really does come off more as trolling at this point. If that's what you're trying to do, then more power to ya, but if you actually want to try and be helpful with these things, maybe re-prioritize you shit a bit to give the basics a higher priority since the infographics are meant for beginners.
>>63852947Certainly, like I mentioned before the IFAK, belt kit, mag pouch guides are upcoming. I'll happily admit I am biased towards my own poorfag interests, hence why we're stacked with armor, radio, and chinese infographics but are thin elsewhere.
I do try and orient the infographics into a beginner (beginner radio, /bag/ infographic baganon made, the ones you're talking about) then advanced with /bag/ supplements and the advanced guides. The Aliexpress guide, on the other hand, is literally meant to be a grab-bag "takeout menu" and is all purpose.
>>63850130You are in the Army in 2007, I am a time traveler
>>63853017>I'll happily admit I am biased towards my own poorfag interests, hence why we're stacked with armor, radio, and chinese infographics but are thin elsewhere.Well, I hate to tell you this, but that doesn't really help anyone. If you're going to make these things for the benefit of yourself mostly, you don't need to continuously post them here. However, if you're actually being serious about helping people, then you really need to get your head out of your ass and actually focus on the shit that matters to the MAJORITY instead of your niche interests. I'm not trying to be mean or anything, I'm just voicing my two cents on what you're doing. This seems really important to you and you spend a good amount of time at them, do it right.
>>63853059Hey, I appreciate the honest feedback. Like I said before, the infographics you're talking about are on the to-do list.
>>63853078You said so the first time, I know. Maybe instead of acting like a pissed off girlfriend every time someone pisses on your infographics, get those to do list items done. It would probably lead to less people pissing on them.
>>63853097lol, I'll start with the mag pouches then and go from there.
>Who wants some Condor triple.. triple stackers?
>>63853151You're not doing anything to help your case of not being a troll.
>>63853097>pissed off girlfriend>tfw no pissed off gfThat feel is pure bliss, my frens. A bliss you will never know.
>>63853496>tfw no pissed off gf to fuck while she resist and then fall asleep on top of me while my cum drips from her pussy
>>63852898> The ponchos are literally 1-3 layers of thermal insulative material. It's not rocket science and they can be made in a garage with basic equipment & materials... hence why there's like fifty models out of Ukraine. Ebay also has super strong buyer protections, so if they ship shit file an INAD and make the bitches pay return shipping.The ones that work are absolutely NOT 1-3 layers of thermal insulative material. Do you really think it's that simple? Every military in the world has been looking at this problem, and it's a lot more complicated than you think it is. Why do you think there aren't already 100 US vendors? And why are the credible ones, like Saab's Barracuda, so tightly restricted?
This is exactly why you should stop spamming retarded infographics. Also lol at "Pragati". You'll shill any retarded shit that has a website or eBay/Etsy profile.
>>63854024As the infograph clearly expresses, they exist on a spectrum of price and effectiveness. The more advanced models obviously work better and are much more complicated, I was merely referring to the cheapo $200-500 Ukrainian ones with the 1-3 layers line.
They work for a relatively short span of time and at long distance. Gotta keep in mind we're partially /pfg/ and all bases need to be covered, including cheap mediocre solutions. Why? Better than nothing in certain situations.
>>63854041Probably fine. Might slide around. Most people here, at least in the past, don't have soft side armor or side armor at all. I don't think anyone will be able to give you an answer from first hand experience.
>>63854063Dude they don't work AT ALL.
There's no spectrum. The shit you're promoting will heat up and glow like a candle after five minutes of wear.
It's literally a scam, and you've fallen for it.
>>63854068I haven't had side armor since I got my PC a few years ago, but I've recently found a deal on some decent ones, the only thing is they're slightly smaller than the slots on the cummerbund. I'm thinking that they'll be fine since it's pretty close but I figured I'd ask here.
>>63854090Yeah I get it, I should but some too but I'm not sure how big the slots are on mine. I read somewhere that side plates prevented more casualties than front or back plates but I can't find the link anymore. I'd like to get some side armor.
Is /pfg/ not a thing anymore?
>>63854110It could be but nobody wants to start their own threads.
>>63854116I wish we could banish infographic guy to /pfg/, it's literally perfect for him, and we'd have comfier threads.
>>63854123We would have dead threads, have you even posted gear in this one?
>>63854123I don't really care about him. If you just ignored him there would be five or six posts at the beginning of the thread that nobody payed attention to and then we could get back to talking about gear. I never pay attention to the op or any of those posts just scroll past them.
>>63854123>and we'd have comfier threads.>so triggeredFuck man, why do you care? Do you want your own special little palace where you can keep out ugly people? Fucking sensitive little fuck, JESUS CHRIST!
>>63854102Yeah, I've been seeing more and more benefits to side armor. I figure I should be good with the slightly smaller set. The coverage on my body will be fine, and I'm not a big guy, so I wear my carrier pretty tight. I just don't want to drop $120 and have them not work out. I guess if worse came to worse I can jimmy rig the inserts to stay in place.
>>63854084Can you provide evidence they're all duds?
>>63854132This. Infograph schizo posted a gun, so there's no excuse for anybody else. We're at 280 posts in four days. Shit's actually pretty cash if we'd just talk shop and not make him the main character.
>>63828628 (OP)What's a good chest rig that can hold 6 mags and can be worn with a backpack for hours comfortably? Ideally modular with the ability to attach a gp pouch, radio, and medical including tourniquet
>>63854277I'm the thermal camo testing anon that was in a few dozen threads ago. I've tested just about every variety of thermal insulative material, spacer fabrics, survival blankets, fiberglass mats, metal foils, etc. Under a generic handheld FLIR camera, NONE of those materials, alone or in combination, worked worth a damn.
There's literally zero chance that some random shit from eBay, exported (lol) from Ukraine, isn't a dud.
Also I know that literally every military in the world has run far more advanced projects than my own, and there's a very good reason none of them are issuing thermal ponchos.
>>63854569Ideally under $300
>>63853057What's it like in the future?
>>63854590Obviously putting a mylar thermal blanket over yourself is going to conduct and start heating up pointlessly. But most of these people building gnome cloaks are trying to create standoff and/or insulation to reduce this conduction. It sort of works when you're innabush, none of it works inside a house or in a clear open field. The early SAS TIC suits created pockets of lofty air around your body to slow thermal conduction into inner layers. Obviously this is flawed from the start since any insulation traps heat in and you will heatcat out if its anything close to hot out.
>Military projectsMostly glass nanospheres doped to match the emissivity of the surrounding environment and provide scattering. You can see the sticky finish on barracuda that is the epoxy holding these to the fabric. In pic rel you can look at my knee/calf and see the edge of a barracuda net that is stood off of my body. The center of a barracuda will do vastly better and if the thermal imager is >5ft away you are going to more or less melt away into the background
>Issued ponchosEh the early TIC suits were basically that but less improvised. UCLANS is basically a gigantic standoff net with sometimes barracuda. Relv eclipse panels are more or less that and work effectively even with limited standoff
>DIY testingThere are some solutions out there with fairly accessible materials and methods but yeah, thermals be difficult
>>63846000>Junk toolswhat kind of failures have you seen first hand?
what brand(s) do you recommend?
Why da hell these cost so much
>>63854714Your mom is a slag.
>>63854590Very interesting. Do you have test results handy?
The issue is that thermal ponchos are a half-measure, sure. Imagine if the only armor one could buy was crappy 8.5lb AR500 steel. Everything else is magically locked away from civilian hands. That's the thermal evasion market for civs right now. It's a lot of cope and half measures with no alternative products unless you're $$$.
And I bet if that were the case for armor, a good chunk of people here would still wear steel. If you have no alternative, you'd wear the poncho, keep your exposure time to a minimum, and your distance from any thermal sensors to a maximum while relying on concealment as much as you can.
>>63854748>Barracuda netIs it possible for the Chinese to learn this technology so they can sell it back to us cheap?
>>63854590>just aboutDid you test Aerogel?
>>63854714After the multicam wars we regressed back to brightly colored formal dress uniforms and line battles, but now everyone is using the NGSW
>>63854809$50 @ Venture right now.
>>63854833Absolutely based. Thermals, LIDAR, and obstacle penetrating radar will make camo obsolete.
>>63854608https://www.beezcombatsystems.com/products/ar-chest-rig-split-front-6-mag
velsys are probably better quality but they top out at 4 mags unless you just get the molle base and build it up with pouches
>>63854748I tested with practical standoffs from foams, felts, airgaps, and spacer meshes. Still didn't work.
Barracuda works under certain circumstances, but it's a very sophisticated solution. It's not a scam ass poncho you're buying off eBay for a few hundred bucks.
> Relv eclipse panels are more or less that and work effectively even with limited standoffI'm not convinced by these guys. I think that if what they had worked well, they'd post more credible proof.
>>63854825This is cope that does more harm than good. The ponchos you've recommended are 100% scams. It's literally retarded to take on faith that they work.
>>63854828The insulation shit, yeah. Not the mystical blue-tinted shit that costs hundreds of dollars for a 1x1" square.
>>63854849guerrilla is the future
be a pedestrian until the shooting starts
be a pedestrian after the shooting stops
>>63854855>https://www.beezcombatsystems.com/products/ar-chest-rig-split-front-6-magJust how is this 5x better for the price of an FLC?
>inb4 it's only 4x more expensive
>>63854837Thanks for the intel, chief
>>63854771Vast majority of their tools are cheap castings with fiberglass handles under the guise of "non sparking" . They are just under harborfrieght tier quality and come with the gayest backpack that sucks to walk in. Half of them coming with a "not for use on steel doors" warning card is also a recipe for someone getting impaled by a snapped piece of shit blackhawk. The bolt cutters are quite literally harbor freight. The axe is exactly what you'd find at a hardware store for $80.
They are $50 harbor freight tools wrapped in $800+ of "tactical" and give departments a false capability. If I found one for like $50 at a pawnshop id buy it but its nowhere near its pricepoint or near useful. People would be better served by taking that same $1300 to harbor freight, breaking those tools while practicing and using the remaining $800 to buy a couple good tools vs a kitchen sink worth of poverty tier garbage.
>What do you recommendMy comments are incorporated in the infographic.
>>63854825>Chinese learnSort of
>CheapNo
>Sell it back to usYou can find it sometimes, you can buy relv otherwise. Its really not that expensive or difficult. If you find a yuge piece of baraccuda you can cut it into screens, hemm the edge and create depth/standoff from your position to basically disappear from thermals. Doing it in 3D while moving is whats actually hard.
>>63854873I really dont want to spoon feed you the solution but youre so close man. Keep in mind, you dont want to be invisible. Just broken up.
>More credible proofFirst hand, ive hunted people with thermals who have had relv vs those who didnt. It works when properly employed. None of this shit is make a pair of trousers and walk around like nothings going on tier. But the difference between like usgi individual camo net, mosquito nets and relv netting very appreciable.
>>6385460834a + surplus pouches
>>63854907by not being a used 30yo mesh vest you pulled out of a barrel in your local surplus store
theres a /pfg/ up right now, you might be more comfortable there
>>63854940>30yo mesh vestAll mine are unissued, and shiny. Even my desert 3 color..
>>63854929>34a>2 molle panels for $150, doesnt include strapsI may have made fun of the flc guy for poor fagging, but come on
>>63854967Its clearly his first rig, he should buy something he can sell when he figures out what he actually wants from a rig.
>>63854959Yeah , nobody used the FLC because they suck shit
>>63854873Hardly cope. What's the solution, then, besides the Barracuda netting A2 proposes? If we're down to horses and buggies, you don't go rolling around on foot.
I'll buy one (eventually) and see how it does. Will post results when I do. I've got three thermals I can test it with. Sound fair?
>>63854940And yet no /nvg/. Lame.
>>63855048Oh, ok... sorry for your loss.
>>63854929A2. Any thoughts on
>>63852596? I think you run side plates.
Which of these would be more desired?
>modern web equipment (ie plate carriers, 30rd mag pouches, IFAKs) redesigned to be made purely out of cotton canvas/thread, leather, steel/brass for an old timey look
>antique/vintage reproduction web gear (ie wehrmacht, soviet, US WW2 gear) made of modern cordura with PALS integrated
>>63855100How about don't recommend absolute dogshit? What more of a "solution" do you need?
>>63855168neither would be desired