we hadnt these for a while
make it max comfy

picrel is an italian/dutch/bong ww2/early postwar webbing brit style with an austrian shovel, enfield l1a1.
3 mags per mag pouch, one bottle per flask pouch. red bull tastes funny out of an alu bottle, ek se.

imagine the shoulder grease on the rhodies who ran such setups with more mags and bottles for days thru the hot african bush. with nothing but a tshirt under these suspenders. ouch.
run to the hills lads.

>>63837796 (OP)
Can't wait to see what demented shit gets posted in here, you freaks

>>63837796 (OP)
yeaj

>>63837796 (OP)
>vintage FAL
>poor

Bruh

>>63839323
>>63839463
>fucking M1 Carbine
>poor

>>63839608
Its not exactly rich criteria either. You can get them for a grand now and they used to be very cheap

>>63839463
it dependes on where you are lurking from.
In france fals are 1100-1500 per rifle.
In the german lands its a 2000 rifle.

But there is nothing below 8-900 c-bills for a sks or a chink ak, any ar15 or similar military semiauto will cost 1500 or more.

if you wanna go REALLY cheap, a 2nd hand remington 750 can be had for like 4-500. but they arent super reliable or accurate, and you have to search for em.

to stay on topic, heres my most budget but superswift combo sporting a sks (pitted chamber but works superb), serb suspenders (rusty hooks) on an austrian alice belt/big pouch, belgian ammo pouches (full of red sand) and a brit flask.
5 sks 10 shot strips go into each pouch
the chink machete actually saw service in tansania/ruaha. i only used it to shake the bushes before pissing into them, so the snakes fuck off.

>>63839639
Yeah, but what about feeding it? I don't think .30 Carbine is as prolific as it once was.

>>63837796 (OP)
>flags of losers
lmao

>>63840413
nigger

>>63840377
Its not too terribly expensive desu. I bought 1100 rounds at a local shop for 38 cpr. I admit that's kind of a score though.

>>63840536
is there another manufacturer but ppu for it?

>>63837796 (OP)
>>63839323
>>63840045
always remember: surplus is more durable and ergonomic than chinkshit

>>63840413
zoomie cant handle the peer pressure on social media

just do some pull ups man

>>63839463
If he's Euro like I am, they're cheap here
Like it or not, pic rel is my poorfag rifle since it cost me all of €400.

>>63844427
400 is an excellent price, hows accuracy?
where from?

>>63837796 (OP)
austrian, fal/l1a1 was painful 2000 eurobucks
but its a rhodie gru stamped so i went for it

>>63844512
Finland, rifle is a Lithgow
Normal accuracy, around 3 MOA but handloads can do 2ish

>>63844520
very nice.
the biggest section of my surp rifle collection are finn mosins, i have about 15 rifles from the winter/cont. war and i love em.

my enfield fal/l1a1 groups 8cm at 100m with that sweet lithuanian ggg .308.

>>63844427
>they're cheap
More like "used to be cheap".
Got mine some 7 years ago for roughly 750€, they are now 1200 to 1600€ guns in my country.

Using picrel or oldschool Arktis chestrig with L1A1 depending on circumstances. The belt kit is an old commercial PLCE hip pad that I've added molle, D-rings and waist strap with buckle to, pouches are milsurp british army Osprey Sharpshooter and UGL pouches (4 to 6 € per pouch), suspenders are knockoff PLCE.

>>63844601
They're still relatively cheap, I have seen a few for €600 to €800 even after the gay ass directive that screwed the market for good

>>63844587
Finns are nice, I like my M28-30 more than my K31. Sexy rifles both but the K31 doesn't seem to agree with my square head. Both cost me less than 400 too so they're square in poorfag territory

just stumbled into pic related. magwell is too tight for polymer mags, so its aluminum only. what pouches can be repurposed for 20 rd mags? not paying the boomer tax on old u.s. shit

>>63844609
Cool, they became quite rare in my country and never seen any below 1000€ in the last 5 years. Got some reasonable priced Israeli FALs and Stgw57s, though.

>>63844664
British Osprey smoke grenade pouches are good fit for IIRC a pair of 20 rounders. Closes with velcro and a fastex buckle.

>>63844618
my m28/30 is my competition rifle, scored it for 150 from someone who didnt know what he got. groups stay tight and point of impact only wanders a bit when its hot, awesome rifle.

for swiss rods, the g11 has a better notch on the backsight than the k31.

>>63844664
german bundeswehr g3 pouches, the soft ones

>>63844414
>bringing up zoomies out of nowhere

>>63844391
ARMSCOR and Aguilla both make it for pretty cheap, Korean surplus is still plentiful too.

>>63844404
Even surplus chinkshit is betteer

>>63837796 (OP)
Based PFG Baker. Best general on /k/
Reminder that /ARG/ is full of actual faggots

>>63838218
t. actual tranny from /ARG/

>>63844664
Any standard 30 round pouch fits the 20 rounders wish a little bit of shit inside the pouch to boost them up. Just use some fabric and stuff it with crumpled up paper to make it work, can even just fill it with rolled up washcloths. I keep 20 rounders in standard 30 round ALICE pouches.

>>63848795
Bump

I think things are going to get a lot more interesting in the US for poorfags. BBB passing means cheapshit suppressors flooding the market and I don't know if SHORT act will change much. And it looks like companies are starting to target the poorfag market more like Hi-point finally getting into ARs and parts kits no longer needing the barrel to be cut to be imported into the US anymore.

>>63844718
>Got some reasonable priced Israeli FALs and Stgw57s, though.
Those used to be both reasonably priced and readily available until we got fucked (and retroactively fucked, too) by the directive

>>63850385
>And it looks like companies are starting to target the poorfag market more
Gen Z is entering their buying years and they’re mostly broke or debtmaxxing

>>63851244
the working man gets less and less for his money. and the quality goes down.
compare a 20 year old zastava m85 or cz 527 .223 bolt action to a ruger ranch or a savage patrol. the old europeans have all milled steel parts, wooden stock, irons...robust quality. the new american rifles have cast/ plastic parts and a plastic stock, no irons. better dont drop em, they might break.
chink akms have much less flesh around the trunnion than an old eastern european akms etc. chink sks for the commercial market have thinner steel
for the receiver.

so a solid advice for young shooters is to read about the topic and buy 2nd hand quality stuff instead of new slob.
accept calibers outside the 308/223 field and good rifles can be had for cheap.

>>63844664
Any 30 mag pouch with maybe a sock at the bottom to push mags higher. The GP/100 rd saw pouches will fit 4 or 5

>>63837796 (OP)
Anyone know of a decent poorfag alternative to a carbine-length KAC quadrail? I'm not shelling out $300 for a handguard.

>>63854232
what do you need a quadrail for that a clamshell can't do?

>>63854232
IMI PCQ or whatever the fuck it's called

>>63854244
>muh neeeeeed
Piss off.

>>63854448
lol wut. Is this not /pfg/? Clamshells are cheap as fuck

>>63854475
That's not what I'm looking for.

>>63854232
get a P&S one. Alternative manufacture. If you're lucky you can get it for around 100-200.

>>63851708
>accept calibers outside the 308/223 field and good rifles can be had for cheap
Agreed, while the age of cheap milsurp nuggets might be over you can find a fuckload of cheap and quality used hunting rifles in calibers like 7mm rem mag at pawnshops and they are usually an amazing value as long as you stay clear of ones like the 90s and later produced remshit 700s. The same can be said of pistols too, old ruger P series handguns are built like tanks can be found for cheap in a shitload of places.

>>63839639
>You can get them for a grand now
I keep threatening to sell mine and the price keeps going up! Them I remember, NEVER SELL.

>>63855258
>NEVER SELL.
For real man. I went through a weird period a few years ago where I would be buying, selling and trading guns like crazy. Not to make a profit, but to try new things instead of properly saving my money. I wasted soooo much money in the process, and lost some pretty good pieces like my broom handle. Never sell if you don't have to.

>>63855277
>Never sell if you don't have to
I accept your conditional statement. Don't go hungry, well, maybe a little... But don't buy if you don't have disposable income and cash cushion. I traded a FAL for something I thought I wanted and came out poorly for it. Maybe I just suck at trades, but never again.

any tips for foam padding an alice rig? I've got some 2 inch high density foam, but i'm hesitant to just duct tape the strips for the belt maybe I should get some cloth backed green tape

>>63840045
>>63844427
And yet you niggers never import the parts kits

>>63855528
Not specific to ALICE, but you know those surplus green foam rolls. A lot of guys cut those ups to pad their pack frames.

>>63837796 (OP)
I OWN THIS DESERT, BITCHES

What're some poor fag plate carriers that I could wear a rig over? Bought a rig so now im determined to go down that route instead of buying molle ammo pouches and such. Preferably something that comes in ranger green

>>63855141
Thx fren.

>>63855662
>dude just cut up all your remaining interesting rifles so the Americans can have the rest too
No thanks, it's already ARs or nothing here

>>63856185
ultra poor? a thick book with a ceramic tile over it, the bathroom floor ones. held together by duct tape. will stop a 9mm, most propably.

>>63856957
>most propably
Sounds legit.

>>63837796 (OP)
>FAL
>Cheap

3d printer here, not actually poor, but I like cheap things. Making a glock was a joke for how easy it was.

Anybody know about the PSA AR15 kits? I was thinking Ivan's UBAR3/X as a lower. Not really wanting to build a Hoffman upper especially when a PSA upper costs the same as buying the parts I would need anyways. /k/ is bad about having printer threads.

>>63844664
Used condom with the cum still in it to prop up the mag

>>63856169
BASED

>let's piss away money in useless shit we will never train in /general/
>modern materials and manufacturing techniques, what are those?
>close out and discontinued items, what are those?
>sorcery! thats what!
>i want to be miserable if i actually end up using these things
>ill magickly toughen up even though i haven't already while having life in easy mode
>trained soldiers were forced to use this stuff that means ill be fine!

>>63856185
https://www.venturesurplus.com/products/usgi-interceptor-vest-no-armor-3-color-desert/

Cheapest surplus carrier there is

>>63859857
post gear

>>63859857
>omg a 40 yo rifle design won't work at all!

>>63840413
>here’s your winning side bro
I swear to God we are about 10 years from smug leftist Jews defending the vandalising of Vietnam War memorials.

>>63860046
>thinks I have pictures of my gear saved
I've used surp and modern commercial. There is no doubt which is better. Learn from my mistakes, spend a little more money.

>>63860095
>40 year old design
SIG PE90? Had one, they are fantastic rifles.

>>63859857
Boy your knees must be sore from jumping to all those conclusions.
If it bothers you so much that a lot of us are enjoying surp, then why are you even here?

>>63860149
>>thinks I have pictures of my gear saved
I don't think you have any gear at all

>>63850841
>the directive
Burger here, what the fuck is the directive? You guys are saying it likes it’s the illuminati or something.

>>63860261
EU directive, essentially EU-wide law that must be made national law. It actually IS the Illuminati.
This particular one is the source of many gun-related woes (IIRC it bans 10+ rd mags totally unless you can prove you need an exception and the D*tch wanted it to ban semi autos altogether EU wide originally).

>>63860177
>he caught me!
>how?!
You're right bud. Don't listen to me, I have no idea what I'm talking about. You should definitely ignore me and buy your cool souvlful milsurp you're totally going to train in. Instead of just taking a couple of larp pictures and putting it in the closet. Make sure to get an alice pack, TAP, and everything else in 1000D!

>>63860495
Finally a common sense post.

>>63860164
>then why are you even here?
To keep you from wasting your money. Fuck it. Go ahead.

>>63860502
>don't do what you want
>do what I say
Control freak.

>>63860495
Yeah you definitely don't know what you're talking about lmao.

>>63860495
Gear literally does not matter at all. If you were as wise as you pretend to be you would know this, just like a generation of millenial gearfags have figured out. Generations of soldiers all over the world survived without last cut squadron and firstspear tubes and whatever else you're advocating for.

It will be cool to see snobbish lootcrates like you getting your heads blown apart by poorfag guerillas with 20" PSA rifles

>>63860495
I was one of the guys busting your balls. Unironically, an ALICE Pack and TAPs are the best recommendations. Both things I started out with. Don't mind the fact I'm missing my waist belt, I removed the tactical tailor one I had on it for the standard hip belt (too bulky for my liking), but I cannot seem to find the strap at the movement. Still, its tons of fun piecing together kits like that M1 carbine rig I had posted earlier.

>>63860502
>To keep you from wasting your money.
I bought a full LC-2 rig for like $50 a few years ago and have put it through hell innawoods, and I've literally never had a problem with it. I don't see how this is a waste of money.
>you're totally going to train in. Instead of just taking a couple of larp pictures and putting it in the closet.
What makes you think we don't use our gear simply because it's milsurp? We're not buying it to baby it. It's surp, it's already dirty and smelly. That's why it's cheap.
You're getting inordinately upset about how other people spend their money.
>i'M jUsT tRyInG tO sAvE yOu MoNeY
No anon, you're gearsnobbing, and it's pathetic.

>>63855528
2 inch wide or 2 inch thick? If b), then it's too thick.

If you have couple bucks to spare, use britbong "hippo pad" (PLCE hip pad/belt padding), it's foam in cordura nylon with loops for the belt, works well, doesn't cost much and is wider under the ammo pouches so the don't bang your hips.

If money's tight, cut a 3 inch strip off of an army foam sleeping mat and zip tie it to your belt at regular intervals with the excess width of the foam overlapping down.

>>63860501
two bottles? do you live in a jungle or a desert?

i like this austrian army bottle, its made from clear plastic and can be put into the sun for the uv light water desinfection.
alice clips are glock. the whole thing was 9 euros at a museum, new.

>>63862334
>desert

>>63839463
This might come to a surprise for you, but this dood could have bought this FAL back when they were not crazy expensive. Not everyone is a zoomer

>>63862827
>not crazy expensive
2011 they were $550-$800ish

>>63862835
>2011 they were $550-$800ish
Fugg I remember those days. Crates of nuggets at gun shows, drooling at tricked-out saiga-12s in gunshop windows, pallets of cheap hornady zmax everywhere. Shit was legendary. Only thing was ARs were still the rich kids club, $800 for a basic bitch model.

>>63863822
>Only thing was ARs were still the rich kids club, $800 for a basic bitch model.
Yes. Building stripped rcvrs was still the new thing for cheap ARs. The FALs were under valued. And SkS'were still $250/300.

>>63837796 (OP)
>>63839323
>>63844427
>>63860781
>poorfag
>fal
>m1 carbine
>EO Tech

>>63837796 (OP)

>>63864413
My FAL was €400 thoughever

>>63864413
Wasn't implying that the AR with the eotech was PFG stuff. More to say that you can part your way out of PFG status like how I did, and to agree that an ALICE pack and TAP rig are great. I still think M1 carbines are a decent option though, especially if you live in shitty states. Actually, I think a CMP M1 might be the ultimate PFG rifle. Get a service grade for 700 bucks, a cartridge belt and boom. Also, like the FAL guy ITT, these things used to be much cheaper when compared to basic ARs. Other people can post their stuff, its like theres 3 or 4 people ITT who posted anything other than bitching.

>>63864830
>3 or 4 people ITT
>+1

>>63865038
Complete, unissued and shiny. I gotnthis at one of those "rape the widow" estate sales zoomers always brag about finding ...in their dreams. It's hard to price, I gave a buddled offer for cases of MREs, canned roast beef, camo, gun parts, ect. I offered a high price and then gave her the rest of the cash I had in my wallet.

>>63865050
Considering condition and collectability, I got a deal. I would like to get the "radio shelf". Yeah, right!

>>63865056
It's definitely not my fav pack, I haven't even used it, much less packed it. It's a lot like the TAPs or FLC, better than most people give credit to, because they don't take the time or know how to properly adjust them for fit. The kidney belt is actually nice when hitting the sweet spot for your torso length. Shiny! If this was my only pack, I would be happy, but I like external frame packs.

>>63839323
>>63840045
>>63844601
>>63860501
Some pretty nice looking belt kits here
Even as an alice enjoyer myself I do appreciate some brit kit, I might bust out the old plce I bought and actually fill it out
Forgive the empty pouch boys, I have a spare flashlight on the way that I hope is gonna fit.. Speaking of lights, do you guys have any reccs for headlamps? Is it retarded to get something that runs off AA? I just wanna be able to stockpile the batteries easily. I don't mind rechargeable shit, but I like having batteries be atleast an option

>>63860689
>Gear literally does not matter at all.
Sure champ. Be in a constant state of fear with minimal food water and sleep carrying everything that can keep you alive on your person. Then say "gear doesn't matter"
>advocating for
I advocate for minimalist low profile dual use gear. Stuff you can use normally, if possible. Like rucks clothing and shoes. Shit that doesn't scream from hundreds of meters away" shoot me".
>the mythical poor fag camper
>this time a whole team of em!
Ah. legend has it they survived months just on their adipose tissue. Like I said, i went through my surp phase it was a waste of money.

>>63862775
my god.
better not stumble into a bush.
poisonous/dangerous animals in every shadow area?

>>63865038
I really liked those medium ALICE packs upgraded with MOLLE ruck hip belt and shoulder straps + sleeping bag carrier slung on the frame underneath. Durable alu frame, ALICE bag pockets + a separate sleeping bag compartment and more anatomic shoulder straps.

Have to say though that ALICE worn over USGI TLBV with those wide shoulder pads was reasonably comfortable.

>>63865853
>poisonous/dangerous animals in every shadow area?
Often. The really mean ones rattle. That plant is a "Crucifixion Bush" (cowboy slang), not as bad as you might think. The chlorophyll is in the skin, it has no leaves to reduce water loss. This one is called a "one way plant" (cowboy slang), in that if you fall off your horse on to one, it's a one-way trip. And it would be.

>>63869469
You can actually beak off the tips and use them for a pf awl or needle. And if you do it right (I've practiced) you can pull the needle back and get the fibers on the spine for thread.

Convince me not to pull the trigger

This is the cheapest I found

>>63869607
Perfectly fine. Get an H2 buffer and a microbest bcg and it'll serve you just fine for thousands of rounds.

>>63869607
>Convince me not to
Don't do it, wait for the 4th of July sales and it will be closer to $400! Tell me I didn't convince you?

>>63869607
I have almost exactly that from PSA and it's great. Don't buy it as a complete gun, you can buy the complete upper and complete lower separately (but in the same order is fine) and you'll save money. Complete lowers are only $99 right now and you can pick a complete upper to go with it, pretty much any will work. Some of the uppers will come with the bolt carrier group and charging handle and some won't. Be careful of that when considering price. If you buy an upper without those included, BCG is about $80 and charging handle $10-20. The first upper I post is my exact pencil upper with mid-length gas system. It's more expensive than the other uppers in this price range because of the pencil barrel and nickel bcg which is super smooth. Any is good just preference.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/complete-psa-ar-15-lower-classic-edition.html

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-mid-length-pencil-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-13-5-hex-m-lok-upper-with-nib-bcg-ch-mbus-sight-set.html

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-mid-length-pencil-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-13-5-hex-m-lok-upper-w-bcg-and-ch.html

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-midlength-5-56-nato-1-7-melonite-freedom-upper-with-bcg-and-ch.html

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-mid-length-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-moe-freedom-upper-with-bcg-ch.html

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-5-56-nato-1-7-m4-nitride-classic-gray-freedom-upper-with-bcg-ch-5165447990.html

>mfw the chink airsoft plate carrier I bought has now lasted twice as long and through more abuse than my past "legit" plate carrier that cost 4x as much

>>63870213
this has been my experience too. Brand names are often complete scams pushed by larperators and now I'm back to buying cheap stuff and it just works. If it doesn't i'll buy another for pennies

>>63870213
I hear you bro.
pic unrelated.

>>63862070
unfortunately, I had bought 2 inch thick foam.
However since I actually hadn't done anything I ended up buying the britbong Hippo pad like you suggested.
I really want to find a way to retrofit my camelbak to my alice rig so I don't have to have more than 1 canteen, but still have 4l of water on my person and at least 9 stanags

>>63870213
care to share what brands?

>>63870620
yeah the chink plate carrier that's holding strong is IDOGEAR in that image >>63870347
forgot the brand of the "legit" plate carrier but it's initials were CP and I just called it that in my mind cuz i thought it was funny

I'm rucking & sweating with the chinkshit for 3hrs a day carrying at least 50lbs on it with plate weights and ammo and still no stitch fraying or damage of any kind.
The expensive stuff gave out on me in less than 3 months of the same treatment.
It's with my sister since I had her try and fix the stitches for me.

>>63870836
Crye Precision maybe? If Crye is blowing out on you like that then that's... not good man.

You can split Chinese stuff into four grades. A (duty), B (range), C (airsoft), D (shit). Idogear is usually at least B and sometimes pushes into A. They're very good for Chinese gear.
Pic related is side 2 of that Aliexpress infographic with other various assorted goods. If you play your cards right and don't get bonked by tariffs, scams, or duties, Aliexpress and the other Chinasites can be powerful allies to /pfg/.
Their thermals are world class, interestingly enough. You will not find a better thermal for $1,330-1,500 than the Oneleaf.

>>63870859
>Crye Precision
yeah I think that's it
guy at the gun store sold it to me as "top of the line pro shit"

>>63870877
Are you sure the Crye's legit and he didn't pass off some factory second, ghost shift, or sham shui po doppelganger on you?
I've heard of Crye shitting the bed before from time to time, but if it's crapping out that bad I'd be real concerned.

>>63870885
bought it brand new and had legit sealed packaging from a reputable store and everything though I'm new to all this so I wouldn't trust my judgement completely.
If that brand is so reputable I probably got a dud or it got swapped during packaging for a fake (if that shit happens in this industry)

>>63870899
Was it a JPC by chance? They do have reported failures in the past where the stitching is weak. Other than that I'd think a dud or MAYBE (and this is a stretch) there's a distributor-level comingling issue, Amazon-style, and there's a factory in East Asia somewhere churning out convincing C / D-grade fakes.
This is unrelated to your problem, but comingling and return fraud (order a real X, swap it for a fake X and then return the fake for a refund on the legit one) are huge problems with mega-distributors like Amazon. Never order high-end gear from there.

>>63870836
>It's with my sister
Tell me more.

>>63870347
>>63870859
These guides have a nice graphic design

>>63871074
Much appreciated, although I must admit I styled them after a Chinese takeout menu. They were inspired by a series of /gq/ threads where people found out Aliexpress can get you frankly very good gear for a literal fraction of the price. For example, compare the prices of real and fake Mutant / SPUD pouches.

>>63870859
do these hold zero though?
I was looking into buying an optic foir my AR and was looking into picrelated but I saw on YT that it doesn't hold zero after banging so it's not a battle optic just for range.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aMhc_A53VE

I'm looking for an optic that can work with my astigmatism cuz red dots are very blurry on me.

I was checking this out cuz I thought an LPVO might be the way since I wanted a scope that I can use as a red dot as well as for mid range.

>>63871121
I want to buy a battle reliable optic that works with my astigmatism without paying more than what I paid for my AR.

>>63871121
If you have the 'stig I'd go with a prism. Primary arms has good budget models. As for that scope, what caliber? This is one area you may want to save up.

>>63871173
5.56 14.5 inch barrel which I have the option of converting to full auto and I'm also gonna buy a suppressor for it in the next few months.
I just want something that won't lose zero since I ruck with my rifle a lot.

>>63871186
Prism then from Primary Arms, probably.

>>63871088
>styled them after a Chinese takeout menu.
Give me an eggrole, or I will use this against you in /gq/.

>>63871088
I'll take some general tso's with lo mein and an egg roll, please.

>>63872716
Would you like Jinwudun, Militech, or Yiff Protector?
>>63872768
That'll be an LPQ-10 spike strip as soon as my Lianmei tuk tuk gets fixed. I blew the tranny going up a 10 degree incline in Tai O fishing village, where I spoke with my Miritech contact to obtain secret titanium carbide super SAPI able to stop 7N37.

>>63872793
>img
Aside from sketchy AC, this looks like a comfy 3rdy spot.
>water taxi to brothel

>>63872803
If I wanted to set up a business selling the best of China on the down low, it'd be there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcvejdfvPHQ

>>63837796 (OP)
A Mossberg 500 and a bandolier I got from BudK.
That’s it.
There are no clothes; that is not a mistake.

>>63872843
Put an HFXC on it, barrel clamp rail, and you have cyberpunk gun.

>>63872852
>HFXC
Is the IR laser power intentionally underrated @ 0.7mW?

>>63872843
Anon… about those tally marks on the heat shield…

>>63872882
Lol hell yeah it is. Switch it to high power mode (unscrew bat cap, press and hold both down and up power buttons while screwing cap in) and the vis laser is easily brighter than a Somo PEQ-15 even on mid power, ditto for the IR.
If I had to guess, the vis laser at full power is >35mW.

>>63872882
My post just now got deleted, no idea why. Anyways, yeah, both the green and IR lasers are full power if you do the unlock trick.

>>63872843
based if you're white

>>63872897
Nah that's just his record on nacht der untoten.

>>63872843
Very based

Swerve gear queers, real poorfag coming through.

>>63873015
The hose clamp really is the icing on the cake

>>63873015
A man with this high caliber can defeat five gear queers.

>>63869607
S&W M&P 15 is better quality in my opinion, I did find used one in very good condition with not much carbon build up for $500.

>>63873015
Nice, it's full choke too

My DTI-15 from Del-Ton.
Not a bad poorfag rifle, back in 2018.
They recently went out of business.

>>63873998
The power of pinty! Did it hold zero?

>>63873998
PSA put them under with $99 complete lowers and $199 complete uppers

>>63874126
So far.

bump

>>63877058
Did the same for my Laserspeeds.

>>63869469
>>63869487
i can only raise rose bushes and some saber grass between terrace and pool

i got two berthier carbines (350 both), 200 rounds and 9 en blocs (those are pricy), berthier bayonets
one inherited 12/70 side by side and 50 shells
some belts, pouches and slings

me, wife and bro armed for roughly 600 credits

>>63878480
>img bbs
Post pics.

>>63878407
Looks cozy enough.

>>63844427
>they're cheap here
Makes me seethe, they're beautiful. What's a good poorfag full power rifle in the US?

>>63878881
Palmeddo Ar10 if it desnt jambb

>>63878910
I'll have to look into how much wood furniture is. I really like how those early AR-10s look

>>63879955
>wood furniture is. I really like how those early AR-10s look
>black rifles wood closed down
Luck..

>>63878881
CAI C308.
Mine is good and mags are cheap.

E tool or machete?
Mine is a WW2 martin
Ifak in butt pouch

>>63882512
Love your set up. Personally I am pro E-tool. Its okay for brush, but IMO its nice to be able to dig a fighting position.

>>63882641
I'm still waiting on the dpm belt padding another anon recommended, that and a usgi ewcs plate carrier that will go underneath the alice rig, i've got the italian uhwmpe lvl 3 plates for that

>>63882512
E-tool on the pack, machete on the belt
Though personally I'd really only run them both if I were going into a very bush heavy environment and absolutely needed a machete. Otherwise the e-tool stays on the pack 24-7 for camp duties
Nice alice kit btw

I need a new hot knife to cut more aramid and 1000d codura for my flak vest. Anyways IDK if I should get a chestrig thats modular to carry Beretta mags on or just get a better belt?
>>63871127
Look at prisms they were the only thing that helped me and my eyesight is so shot I need bother eyes open on a 3x with illumination and the front lid closed to shoot at sub 50yds. 3x magnification and prisms are all I can use to actually see what I am shooting at.

>>63878530
thank you.

where are you going with all that water?

>>63882625
Highly based but you need to utilize your utility pouches.
Chicom IFAK infographic incoming (someday)

>>63886497
Endurance training. When I get tired, I can lighten my load by watering a bush without fear of inadvertently becoming a sex offender. An oblique point being, are (you) ready to haul water from your nearest water source and can you? As in, do you literally have the gear (who can name the 5 Cs?) and stamina? It can be humbling. But this goes back to here: >>63862334
>do you live in a jungle or a desert?

My needlework leaves much to be desired, but I repurposed this ucp CamelBak and am thinking of replacing at least one of the canteens with another magazine pouch or one saw pouch. I'll probably need to go over the dye again with green apple to fix the tone

I just bought a "lightly used" 450$ AR from a gun show.
What should I do to it.

>>63888236
This was the loadout Mad Max was carrying in the game

>>63887242
my disc protrusion makes me a home defence guy. i plan to dart thru the garden flanking intruders which are forced to go to cover by wivey hosing the bushes from a makeshift mg nest with an ar, 200 rd. drums and sandbag walls from grocerie store bags.

>>63873015
Impressive, very nice

>>63888932
Look up cleaning and lube points. Oh, then do that.

>>63887242
>(who can name the 5 Cs?)
Anyone?

>>63837796 (OP)
Hello my poorfag friends

Looking for good ideas for a semi 308 that has to be lightweight. Ambi would be a plus.
Some relatively conventional way of attach optics too.

I did a post on ARG a while back, and other than cheapie palmette AR10s and an 6.5 grendel i havn't had any good ideas. Any anons here the wiser ?

>>63889561
>lightweight =/= cheap
>accurate =/= cheap
>reliable =/= cheap
It's alot like camp gear, milsupr is cheap.and durable because its heavy. So literally, this does not belong itt. The best you can hope for is a decent AR10 and change out the heaviest parts for SUL. Start with the stock, bbl and forestock. Stock to Elftman carbonfiber recoil buffer tube and skeletonized butt. Bbl to carbonfiber wrapped ss liner, I went with BSF, ect. There are many choices. Here, the Ti gas block, Ti FH, and carbonfiber bipod are also in frame. The Ti grip is 3D printed and, from my last search, no longer available. Imagine my disappointment in getting a steel (yuck) grip screw with it. That didn't last as I spec'ed a proper Ti screw. At this point, I think my favorite part is the Ti buffer retainer pin.

>>63889701
good info, thanks. Better advice than ARG
What palmetto shit is decent ? Never brought anything from them. I'll wait for the 4th of july sale

Is dying IOTV gear pieces with Rit synthetic dye a good idea? I want to dye a carrier and some armor flaps but don't know if it will destroy it.

>>63889741
>What palmetto shit is decent ?
Forna large frame aAR? I think you're looking at thier Saber. But for $1260 here a Sig Tread:
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1111082238
I have nonidea at the interchangeability of parts for either, that is where you become the expert on your rifle. It's usually safe to say they are "mostly" interchangeable parts. Sig probably has some fuck around proprietary parts. No big deal. The bbl might get shut out from aftermarket stuff, but that's whee you become the expert.

>>63889757
It's fine. Rit dye is the standard way to dye molle gear, just remember to take the actual armor out first.

>>63889875
>remember to take the actual armor out first.
I swear this always sounded
>take the pizza out of the box before cooking
tier advice, but for some people, required.

>>63889868
yeah, I was looking to get a saber and a light barrel. 16' , maybe half a year down the line when the budget allows / my usecase (hunting) is a success. Not exactly poorfag shit but close enough, honestly. Then i'll see about a different handguard / stock / grip and a three prong.

Any tips on a good ambi charging handle ? Or other accesories ?

>>63889921
>Any tips on a good ambi charging handle ? Or other accesories ?
Kind of just whatever. But I'm not paying $120 for a fucking charging handle, so there's my boundery. I would say just practice with stock.

>>63865632
>headlamps
Got a chink-made one from electrical supplies store specifically because it runs on a single AA battery and has a red light mode. It's not stupid, you can easily have some spare batteries tucked in your kit and AAs can be bought anywhere.

I wouldn't shit on USB rechargeable headlamps either, provided it works together with the rest of your kit. For example if you gonna bring a powerbank anyway, you can just unify on USB charging everything and ditch spare batteries altogether. A solar or hand crank charger even lets you replenish out in the wild, but it's up to you if it's needed and worth it.

Got my first decent backpack recently. Might be kinda ugly, but an OCP or multicam 3 day assault pack in this condition costs around $120, while this only costed $30 in addition to an MTP (my preferred multicam variant) pack cover for $15
While setting this thing up though, I have encountered a few things that leave me with questions
One, what the hell are these inner straps for? It's the one feature of this bag that I have no idea what it's for, I just keep em tucked in with the stiffener currently
Two, what pouches would be good for the molle webbing in the middle of the pack? I don't even know of any that securely fit on just one line of webbing, even small shit like grenade pouches need atleast two rows to be secure. If they just added a second row of webbing I could easily have added a waist pack and had somewhere convenient to store my poncho and poncho liner, but it came like this unfortunately. Honestly, is it worth buying a strip of nylon and having one of my more handy friends sew it on for a second row of webbing? if so, what kinda nylon should I get and where would I even get it?
Three, are there even any pouches out there there are a single column wide but take up three rows of webbing, or is this basically just somewhere to put another 2H & 1W pouch like for a tourniquet or a leatherman?

>>63890091
>A solar or hand crank charger even lets you replenish out in the wild
>hand cranking a 8000mA hrs power bank
No thanks.

>>63890092
I love this stuff because it's unissued, basically a tax refund.
>One, what the hell are these inner straps for? It's the one feature of this bag that I have no idea what it's for, I just keep em tucked in with the stiffener currently
Teathers for parachute drop bag. Cut them off, save weight. Win-win.
>Two, what pouches would be good for the molle webbing in the middle of the pack?
Molle mapmpouch, thin, light no flop inertia.
>I don't even know of any that securely fit on just one line of webbing, even small shit like grenade pouches need atleast two rows to be secure. If they just added a second row of webbing I could easily have added a waist pack and had somewhere convenient to store my poncho and poncho liner, but it came like this unfortunately. Honestly, is it worth buying a strip of nylon and having one of my more handy friends sew it on for a second row of webbing?
No.
>if so, what kinda nylon should I get and where would I even get it?
N/A
>Three, are there even any pouches out there there are a single column wide but take up three rows of webbing, or is this basically just somewhere to put another 2H & 1W pouch like for a tourniquet or a leatherman?
What ever fits, brohiemer.
>picrel, experimental Gerber G.R.A.S.P. 3day assault pack competition , complete (with waistbelt, reservoir, and spare reservoir)

>>63888972
Really? Huh, never played the game. I just wanted more space on my belt.

>>63890173
I've got trash bags full of muilti cam. It's a shame I don't fit in the pants.

Assuming that the HPA passes, what will the cheapest legal way to get a functional can that I will be able to quick-detach from my AR? Currently I have an A2 flash-hider on it

>>63892283
Diy or oil thread adapter.

>>63892283
I Assume the Chinese fuel filter industry will flourish something proper, tarrifs or nothing those Bastrds are DESPARATE.

Picrel is up for ~200 on tacswap and I'm sorely tempted to buy it. Talk me into and/or out of it, anons.

Cons:
-Unknown if it fits me
-200 dollars is not a negligible amount of money something I already own
-Less soul than the current vest I own

Pros:
-Unlike the current vest I own, is not held together with duct tape
-full kevlar for front, back, and sides
-won't get me laughed out of the insurrection

>>63888236
howd you rig your camel pack to the back, im at a loss on how to get mine to stay

>>63893629
Well, it isn't particularly reversible.
I've split the seams on all the sewing on the straps, folded them at an angle on themselves and drastically shortened and joined the bottom straps. It may need some pins or rivets on the top straps to keep them in place in the future

>>63890173
>Teathers for parachute drop bag. Cut them off, save weight. Win-win.
Very cool, I think I'll use them to tie my poncho and woobie up
>Molle mapmpouch, thin, light no flop inertia.
I'll be real man, I've looked around, and I've yet to find a map pouch that fits that webbing. Is this some specific shit made for the 3 day assault packs or something?
>No.
>N/A
Respecfully, I'm going to buy some grade 2 ucp shit for basically nothing and cut the seams on the webbing to get just the right amount i need. After that, I'm going to take that and my pack to my friend with a sewing machine and pay them like $20 or maybe food to sew that portion of webbing to my pack. After they are done, I'm gonna attach a waist pack and enjoy not needing to put my poncho and woobie in my main pack
>What ever fits, brohiemer.
I guess thats fair, I'm just gonna go with my original plan of having a knife on the side with the e-tool and something medical related on the other. On that note, do you know of any molle pouches for medical shears? Specifically something like the NAR shears, I don't have those fancy leatherman ones

>>63893062
No.

https://www.highspeedgear.com/we-made-too-much/carriers-chest-rigs

https://outbuyer.com/collections/frontpage
Kevlar degradation is a crap shoot. It depends on the manufacturer and how the previous owner cared for it. Lurk r/gundeals/new if you dont see any armor on link you're interested in.

>>63893799
>Very cool, I think I'll use them to tie my poncho and woobie up
Literally any bungee or paracord will do this. Mine could pull a truck, they were so ridiculously over built.

>>63892389
Any DIY quick-detach designs out there? Explain the oil filter adapter. Does it have to be threaded on? Will it allow a muzzle brake or a flash hider? Ideally, I would like to have something that I can clamp right onto my A2, but all I am seeing is insanely expensive
>>63892892
Since they are "firearms" still, you won't be able to legally import suppressor parts..

>>63894830
>Explain the oil filter adapter
You'll figure it out. https://www.ntctrading.net/shop/p/mbdw95t35nwi08gyalp1xaxawwnoml

>>63894840
I always use Wix on my Honda.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/wix-24003

>>63894840
Yeah, the "it's threaded onto the [redacted until the BBB passed]" is what I am trying to avoid here. The whole point is that I am trying to figure out the poorfag solution for q/d mount.

>>63894858
>poorfag solution for q/d mount.
Hot glue.

>>63893797
i was kind of afraid of that, oh well, more water the better

>>63856169
Cool relic anon

>>63894860

Epoxy

>>63839608
m1 carbine is a 800 euros rifle here in austria. maybe a grand for an ibm with a bavarian railway police stamp and metal handguard or similar orchids. cheaper than a sks and a poverty ar. only chink aks are cheaper like 700ish.

got this spaghetti blaster for 100 pinkobills, my cheapest rifle. the neat part is, really accurate carcanos are hard to find, but this is one.

>>63895459
Initially that's why I shelved the idea, until I remembered I had a spare ucp hydration pack. Might be worth grabbing one, all that ugly camo goes for pennies nowadays

>>63893062
I have an MTV and it's heavy, hot and bulky as fuck. And as the other anon said, you can't trust old Kevlar. I bought a Grey ghost gear minimalist plate carrier for 100 and found some level 3 uhmdp plates on opticsplanet. Much better setup. You could also stick 3a panels, which are available in a semi-soft uhmdp so that you don't have to worry about degradation or durability, but still be super light and relatively flexible.

>>63893797
>>63893629
Could you try sewing some small d rings or something similar on one end (either the suspenders or camelbak) and then some of the ALICE hooks the suspenders use to attach to the belt to the other one? So its easily detachable. Only issue would be it moving a bit

>>63895809
Is it a 6.5 Carcano? I got the 7.35 version but no ammo

>>63895870
That gives me an idea, and honestly another one is 8$ on eBay. I could use the straps and build in adjustment system with some of those belt sliders. Using a similar clip to those on a seabag for the top and bottom on the d rings and the Alice belt loop holes

>>63895875
yes 6,52 carcano. very comfy to shoot out of a long rifle.

>>63869607
PSA is kinda ass and Androcorp is about the same price and way better

Bump.

>upper $149+shipping
https://ar15discounts.com/products/16″-5-56-phosphate-carbine-m-lok-government-upper-assembly
>lower $120+$20 transfer fee
https://grabagun.com/firearms/rifles/ar-lowers/am-ar15-complete-lower.html
>bcg/charging handle $70+shipping
About tree fiddy. You might come out ahead after shipping just buying this for $369 though
https://gunplace.com/product/814034026789
>>63895809
I honestly should start a business importing poverty ARs for europoors. 100% margins would probably make it worth the inevitable hassle

>>63869607
https://youtu.be/ubXiEW40bUA

>>63899067
To continue
Accessories
>Red dot: $130
https://palmettostatearmory.com/sig-sauer-romeo-msr-green-dot-gen-ii-optic-sormsr102.html
>TAP Rig: $30
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1728815102/usgi-molle-military-tactical-assault
>Magpul mags:$8 x 7= $56
https://battlehawkarmory.com/product/magpul-pmag-30-arm4-gen-m2-moe-5.56.22330-round-black-magazine
>500 rounds of Steel case: $203 shipped
https://www.targetsportsusa.com/wolf-mc-223-remington-ammo-55-grain-fmj-steel-case-mc22355fmj-p-1480.aspx

Bring your own clothes, shoes and water bottle. Your skinny loadout just cost you $759, including a reload of ammo. There is no excuse.

>>63899067
>>63899357
>but I need more
OK, what?

>>63859857
you forgot
>let's spend more on a shittier gun because it's what le heckin oldpoors used!
this place has gone downhill so much

>>63859857
I do portage shit because that way I can spend more money on ammo. I’ve spent less than 2k on my AR habit in the last year. That includes the 3,000 rounds of ammo that I have shot, a functioning gun setup, and a battle rig to carry my ammo. /arg/ and /gearqueer/ are full of faggots who don’t train

>>63899636
*poorfag shit

Janny retroactively deleted every single post I’ve made in the last week. Here’s my loadout (again)

>>63899717
What a fag. (He does it for free)

>>63899717
>Janny retroactively deleted every single post I’ve made in the last week.
Is this a punitive punishment or persecution? What did you do? Are your words wrong words?

Aside from camo pattern, has PLCE changed at all over the years?

>>63899857
Google is your friend
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_Load_Carrying_Equipment

Bump