Give it to me straight - has an F-35 ever been shot down in combat?
I am aware there have historically been some accidental losses during training and crash landings during peacetime, but Iran claims 4 F35s have been downed so far in the past month and Israel says 0. There's not a great deal of evidence publicly available either way.
I'm aware it's technically feasible to get a lock on with heat seeking missiles but I am unsure if they are able to penetrate its countermeasures and stealth technology.

no

>>63857122 (OP)
Assume no because theres zero evidence of a shootdown, and if there was a real shootdown then releasing footage would be the best morale booster Iran could possibly gain at this point.

>>63857122 (OP)
Iran also claims air supremacy over Israel.

Here's your shot down f-35 bro.

>>63857122 (OP)
Almost certainly 0. Iran's air defence is a complete joke

>>63857122 (OP)
How do you even prove that you're plane have not been shot down?

>>63857128
how many iranian planes have been shot down over israel?

i rest my case

>>63857144
Flying them unhindered right over your enemy's capital is a good start

>>63857131
that's a big plane

>>63857122 (OP)
>WAHH WAHH HERE’S A DRAWING OF YOU DOING COCAINE
Turdies truly cannot conceive an original thought, nor an appropriate response to the present reality.

>>63857122 (OP)
I don't think an F35 has ever been successfully engaged in combat
That said, its not like they've seen a whole lot of combat either

>>63857195
the chinese have confirmed to have painted F-35s multiple times. If it was a hot war, the F-35s would have been shot down

>>63857133
>>63857144
This. OP is a retard. Unless we see genuine verified footage of one being shot down it's safe to say 0.

>>63857186
It's a "pot kettle black" situation.

>>63857158
For you!

>>63857264
>was getting shot down part of your plan??

>>63857158
>>63857264
it has literally been thirteen (13) years. please stop

>>63857122 (OP)
If Iran shot down 4, hell even 1, the wreckage would be posted fucking everywhere for a solid week straight much like what happened when Leos and Abrams were lost in Ukraine. The existence of ai generated cope images and videos is proof they haven't gotten anything

>>63857122 (OP)
/pol/ says more than 4 so it's obviously less
no pics or video footage (except arma clips)

>>63857271
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>>63857209
>the chinese have...

>>63857271
Someone get this hothead outta here!

>>63857131
>No strategic multirole fighter
>No plane able to fire off 60 BVRAAMs to annihilate a turd world country's entire air force with a single plane
>No plane armed with a nose-mounted 50mm rotary cannon

>>63857122 (OP)
>>63857122 (OP)
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>>63857122 (OP)
HOLY SHIT THIS IS THE ACTUAL FOOTAGE OH MY GOD

>>63857122 (OP)
Do they still include a retractable coke table for pilots? I thought we stopped doing that in the 90s

>>63857433
Only for domestic models, export buyers can still purchase the option but LM is soon going to discontinue it along with the wet bars and stripper poles

>>63857131
>the jidf muddying the waters

>>63857209
Was this before or after they extended Luneburg lenses?

>>63857122 (OP)
There’s no way Iran downed any yet, we would’ve never seen the end of it, we’d be flooded with pictures of it all over this board and so far all they’ve provided is low quality AI slop

>>63857158
>Why would someone shoot a plane, before throwing a plane out of a plane?

>>63857844
There was that one weird f5 looking thing they put out that had a still lit engine and a hastily photoshopped star of david on it. I think that was my favorite fake so far.

If one was shot down especially over Iran there would be wreckage

So no, Iranians are lying. IIRC Hamas has said they’ve downed about 10 F-35s by now

Why does it matter?

>>63857760
Fucking Lockheed man. Fun Police Inc.

>>63857931
If true it would be the first stealth jet taken down since at least 1999.

>>63857915
It was supposed to be an F35 but there was only 1 tail fin and it was on backwards too lol

>>63857931
Russia has been saying for years that the F-35 is too scared to fly in airspace with the S-300 and S-400 active. They then post the radar returns that show no F-35's in air space so that's proof they're not there. So being able to say you shot down an F-35 would reinforce the belief that the S-300 and S-400 are good and can beat the best tech the West has. Russia then can trick people to buy their stuff. That's why it matters, on top of general propaganda.

>pic
this crap is like something russians would go as anti-ukie propaganda kek

>>63857931
Because it's the only thing they would have. Much like the serbs no matter how badly they get beaten, no matter if they're reduced to chugging russian cum and global irrelevance forever, it'd be a victory they'd trot out for the next 30 years.
>look at us we managed to shoot down an F-35 the west is so weak and we are so strong!
Even if they did, and I've a better chance of fucking a Swedish princess, Israel would just buy another one. A dozen or so a month roll off the production line, it's not like there's no more on the planet.

>>63857969
A Russian Sukhoi S-70 stealth UCAV went down over Ukraine few months back. I guess if you mean manned aircraft though.

https://defence-blog.com/new-details-emerge-on-russias-s-70-drone-loss-over-ukraine/

>>63857122 (OP)
It's very telling about how absolutely cracked the F-35 is that master exaggerator Iran's fake number is only 4 downed.
Western airpower is at least 30 years ahead of any BRICS country, and yes, that does indeed include China.
I do wonder if the shitstompings in Ukraine and now Iran will dissuade them from trying for Taiwan, at least until they can get their hands on knockoff American equipment in large quantities instead of the knockoff Soviet equipment that makes up the bulk of their forces.

>>63857122 (OP)

If any Iranian claims about a shootdown were true, we would have been verifiable evidence by now rather than poorly made AIshit. The Iranians would have throughly documented the kill and the United States Department of Defense would be pissing their pants over it because it means that state-of-the-art technology just got compromised.

>>63858165

I don't think the Chinese have ever seriously considered invading Taiwan so long as America & Frens (South Korea, Japan, etc.) remain in the way. All the saber rattling over it is purely for domestic consumption.

>>63858183
That is something you could safely assume 10 years ago. With their recent military build-up including mulberry harbour ships though, you can't just give the benefit of the doubt anymore.

>>63858183
>I don't think the Chinese have ever seriously considered invading Taiwan
blind or crazy

>>63857122 (OP)
It was Zelensky snorting bugger sugar, now it's Netaniahu also Biden and son... so whoever oppose zigurs is snorting
So like zigurs just projecting with it?

>>63858339
The fuck are you talking about?

>>63857209
Bruh they couldn’t paint Air Force One with Pelosi in it. If they can’t find a 747 coming to Taiwan on a known date, I suspect their ECCM package is probably not going to hold up super well trying to find a f-35 in a hot zone.

>>63857271
Was bitching also part of your plan?

>>63857122 (OP)
>Iran claims

>>63857186
Nah, fuck Bibi and fuck you.

>>63858339
funny thing is doing cocaine isn't that bad, it's pretty awesome in fact, russian boomers think it's bad because there's no good cocaine or drugs in Russia so cocaine is seen as the quintessential drug, one that's easy to visualize so naturally every bad politician is doing cocaine

>>63857430
Chat, is this real?

>>63857122 (OP)
No, of course not. Burden of proof is on Iran to show any evidence and it hasn’t. If they really had shot one down, everyone would know it loud and clear. The shootdown claims are just copium like Hezbollah claiming to have destroyed 100 Merkavas.

>>63859510
OP pic

>>63857122 (OP)
Have the F35s even found any opposition in the air whatsoever? Did Israel destroy Iran's airforce within the first two days or something?

>>63860198
Iran still has some planes left in the east but Israel has air supremacy or superiority over nearly all of Iran's major cities and airfields.

>>63857122 (OP)
>not a great deal of evidence
You are so stupid it amazes me you managed to type this without forgetting to breathe.

>>63860180
Yeah, I don't get it.

>>63857209
painting a target is very easy when you're practically formation flying with them.

>>63859612C
It wasn't even Air Force One, it was a C-40C. Which is way worse because if it had been Air Force One, the Chinese could save face by saying "oh well, it's Air Force One, it's got a billion dollars worth of state-of-the-art countermeasures, of course it'd be hard to detect". But the C-40C is the tri-service designation for a commercial off-the-shelf Boeing 737NG. Whatever ECM wizardry was going on was being done entirely by the escort aircraft

>>63857122 (OP)
This is probably meant as anti Israeli propaganda but goes hard
Imagine racking lines while slapping the shit out of Iran's S-400s

yes i once shot a 44 magnum at one that got too cocky flying near my mobile home

>>63857209
They are also confirmed to fill their missiles with water instead of explosives so even if they painted a target more often than not their standoff munitions are going to be plummeting straight into the ground, because you can't replace rocket fuel with H2O.

>>63858183
Why would they start a war with all of their best customers?

>>63858212
Those ships are going to take over 12 hours to get there, in completely open sea, targeted and attacked every inch of the way. Best of luck to them. This isn't the English Channel in 1944.

>>63857122 (OP)
No. Of course not. What a dumbass question.
>There's not a great deal of evidence publicly available either way
Occam's razor you moron

>>63860765
Tbh it's quite commendable that the Chinese can write down 'our leadership sucks' in an official report. I'm pretty sure I'd guess I'd get fired if I wrote that as a reason to why a project failed at the company I work at.

>>63857122 (OP)
"give it to me straight - has obvious and easily researched thing that is very unlikely to have happend, happened? This bullshit malicious actor claims it happened but there's no evidence. Did it happen though?"

Whats with these constant shit threads since like 2022. Just think a little bit harder and you got your answer, OP.

>>63857271
Do you feel in charge?

>>63858183
You mean like how Russia was not going to invade Ukraine since they already were occupying a third of it?

>>63863531

Please show me on the map what areas of Taiwan are currently under Chinese control.

If anything, it's the other way around. The Taiwanese have controlled the Kinmen Islands sitting mere miles off Mainland China's coast since the end of the civil war and the Chinese haven't touched it since 1958.

>>63863099
They're paid to do this. Of course they know it didn't happen, they just aim to inject doubt into the public discourse. It works on retarded boomers and brain rotted qanon faggots because "well it's not in the MSM which MUST mean they're HIDING THE TRUTH!" Not that it didn't happen, that there's an active conspiracy to hide objective reality.

>>63857271
>it has literally been thirteen (13) years.