Thread 63858864

>Fordow nuclear laboratory is 90 meters below the center of a mountain with an elevation of 2752 meters. Meaning the laboratory is 2842 meters below the top of the mountain. All of it hard bedrock.
>The max depth penetration of the GBU-57 bunker buster is 60 meters (assuming soft sediments)
How exactly is the Air Force going to take it out from the air? Mathematically speaking.

>>63858864 (OP)
congo line of B-2's dropping them one after another right on top of each other.

>>63858864 (OP)
Probably some new toy that Raytheon and TI have been saving under the cover after the Norks first successful underground test.

Anon, have you ever seen a mountain?
You don't start counting the height from sea level, you start counting from the base.
If the lab is 90 meters below the peak then it's 90 meters, not 90+height of the mountain you fucking moron

It's like if i said "Well, the earth radius is 6300KM, your fat bitch of a mom is on the earth, so the earth's total radius in 6900KM"

>>63858864 (OP)
By blowing up all the entrances and letting everyone inside starve to death.
>ah but the secret entrances
Won't stay secret very long with round the clock surveillance from every toy the west has its disposal.

>>63858875
>congo line
is there any native english speaker in this site?

>>63858907
>If the lab is 90 meters below the peak then it's 90 meters, not 90+height of the mountain you fucking moron

Ah yes. A 90 meter tall mountain. Thanks for you insight.

>>63858959
Mountain heights are counted from sea level you moron
They didn't dig down to sea level AND THEN dig another 90 metres for the base

>>63858875
It's 'conga line' you dumb fucking ESL

>>63858989
Yeah sure let’s say the baseline elevation is approximately 1000 meters above sea level and subtract that if you want.

You still have approximately 1.8 km of hard bedrock to penetrate through with a bomb that can penetrate less than 60 meters in hard bedrock.

Which means you’re still left with the original problem.

>>63858932
No. It's all pajeets shilling for Israel and eastern euros shilling for ukraine

>>63859010

The Iranian nuclear facilities are not under 1.8kms of rock, wtf are you talking about?

>>63859021
only trad and based John Smiths from Ohio oblast shill for great Rossiya!

>>63858864 (OP)

Imagine I wanted to keep my candy safe from thieves who want to dig for it.

If I put my candy 90 meters beneath a mountain, how deep do they have to dig to get to it is it

A. 2900 meters, because they have to start at the top and get to the bottom.
Or
B. They can just start at the base of the mountain and dig diagonally until they are under it.

Now can this entire thread stop being retarded.

BTW the actual answer is hitting the same area over and over again.

>>63859061
>BTW the actual answer is hitting the same area over and over again.

Well, yes, but not quite
If the soil is as dense as the OP then there's really no way to dig with conventional explosives

>>63858864 (OP)
It's not a mountain. It's a tiny hill. 90 meters is nothing. By comparison, the Gotthard Base Tunnel is a full 2,450 m under the mountain at its deepest point. Cheyenne Mountain Complex is roughly 600 meters under the mountain.

>>63859029
I sketched it in pic related to explain.

Unless z_{3} + z_{2} is only 90 m somehow?

>>63859010
Tf you mean "Let's say". You ask if something would be feasible but make up the scenario? Then why ask the feasibility?

>>63859010
The deepest facility in the world is the Jinping Underground Laboratory in China which is at around 2.4km under ground. That's China. The depths of the Iranian facilities are not 2.4km or 1.8km.

The Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant is around 90m deep and Natanz Enrichment Facility is 40m-50m (though some analysts say 90m).

Therefore multiple GBU‑57 Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP) will eventually penetrate. It may take 5 or so, but it'll be enough. The bomb is not entering through the top of the mountain because how the fuck are they getting INTO the facility otherwise? A giant fucking elevator from the top to bottom? No. They go in 'at ground level' and go down. You hit fucking there. Not the fucking top of the fucking mountain holy fuck.

>>63858864 (OP)
They already got Jews in the country. Just let them raid it.

>>63858932
I mean it's not that much of a fuckup. I see native speakers do worse honestly.

>>63859191
Not going to work if the tunnel to the
lab is a 1km long.
He's right, you're wrong.

>>63859005
>>63858932
>Implying native English speakers don't make phonetic mistakes.
Its a letter off, worse case Ontario it's just a typo. It's not rocket appliances.

>>63859191

Horizontal tunnels, motherfucker.

>>63859217
a place like that looks too big for just special forces to tackle without support from conventional units even if they do have air support and could somewhat isolate the area from enemy reinforcements by severing the roads that lead into the area.

>>63859191
>The deepest facility in the world is the Jinping Underground Laboratory in China which is at around 2.4km under ground. That's China. The depths of the Iranian facilities are not 2.4km or 1.8km.

>The Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant is around 90m deep and Natanz Enrichment Facility is 40m-50m (though some analysts say 90m).

See sketch pic related. Seeing as photos show entrances into the mountain base, and IAEA inspectors said they “walked down stairs forever” to get in, my understanding is the 90 m depth is BELOW the mountain ground level, not accounting for the mountain bed rock on top.

But maybe my understanding here is incorrect and the depth is just the delta z between the mountain top and the nuke lab? But then why would IAEA inspectors recall walking down stairs forever to get in there when the entrance is at the base of the mountain?

>>63859137
hehehe
This is a perfect explanation of why thirdies can't into technology or high science. Some can copy but it is just that.

>>63859274
Because you don't build the stairs in a straight fucking line to the thing you dug the hole to protect.
You zig-zag, go off course and so on.

>>63859295
The IAEA inspectors report round cylindrical stair cases that go on forever.

>>63859305
That isn't a metric of anything. What I think is a short staircase some fat lazy bastard with consider long.
Did they count steps/flights? Time from start to finish?

There's an easy way to solve this debate:

We start bombing Iran with every munition in the US arsenal and then study the results once the Islamic Republic has collapsed and the Shah is back in charge.

>>63858864 (OP)
If Israel can maintain total local air dominance around the facility for a couple hours, with loads of drones everywhere, I could seem them sending in a ground raiding force. Could have it operate from ships in the Persian Gulf (with Gulf Arab help)

>>63859315
I'm kind of curious who the nearest Iranian Army garrison commander is, because the security services in Iran have traditionally been isanely easy to bribe and Israel and the US have a lot of money...

>>63859315
You are missing the getting helicopters and troops leg of the journey.
Also, the contingency plan for when shit goes wrong and the troops can't get transported back to the ship.

>>63859344
How viable would an airborne insertion from a fixed wing be versus an air assault on helicopters? That still leaves the issue of how hell you're supposed to exfil, but that seems like it would be more feasible logistically than trying to fly a bunch of helicopters in and out of the country.

>>63859274
Here is a sketch that is more topographically accurate of the area.

>>63859453
>collapse entrance
>bomb rescue vehicles
War crime but problem solved

>>63859005
post foreskin, amerimutt. Oh wait, you can't.

>>63859472
Centrifuges and enriched uranium still there just dig it out later

>>63858864 (OP)
Actually the mountain starts at the center of the earth which means the laboratory is 6,380,700m below the top of the mountain.

>>63859295
You're assuming Iran has ever done anything right?

>>63859084

It's not digging, it's using the shockwaves to destabilize the entire ground in the area and cause collapses that eventually destroy the facility.

>>63859497
Why would you want to see my penis homoman?

>>63858932
>>63859005
>implying it was not a burgermutt making that post

>>63859523
>He forgot about the No-Fly-Zone over Iraq from *1991 to 2003*.
Discounting obvious possibilities only sets you up for disappointment should they come to pass.

>>63860118
Why do you think the Iranians built Fordow? Because the Iraqi enrichment facilities were in the open. You can collapse the entrances but the centrifuges and enriched uranium would still be fine in the lab.

>>63859472
>Problem solved.
Ftfy

>>63858932
Saar we have excellent English, saar! We still speak proper Wnglish unlike you bloody benchod bastard bitch Americans!

>>63859252
>worse case Ontario it's just a typo