Thread 63863012

The finns have voted to withdraw from the Ottawa convention. Soon the Russian border will be nothing but mines of all kinds

In a WW3 scenario wouldnt Russia just drop 100 megaton nukes on Finland until it was a giant radioactive crater? I doubt they’d set foot on it

>>63863014
With what bombers

>>63863014
Why would Russia nuke anyone?

>>63863014
>muh 100mt nukes
They built two. One is in a museum.
>but they could build more
They can't maintain what they already have.

157 yeas to 18 nays. Seems clear enough.
Do they still have a stash of anti-personnel mines somewhere, or will they have to go shopping next?

>>63863014
>Nook nook
U talk good, u get banan

>>63863014
>By some miracle little Vlady rubbed a samovar with a genie in it and uses all three wishes to get more than 0 working nuclear weapons, aircraft to carry them, and competent military personnel to handle everything
>Drops the bombs on Finland
>Prevailing winds carry the fallout over the only two cities Russia actually has
I mean it'll be sad to lose the only BT-42 in the world, but it's a reasonable price to pay for total vatnik death.

>>63863104

The usual "The ice is thin around the Finn" -solution they did with their artillery numbers for peace treaties after WW2. They have then stored somewhere but listed as "miscallenius". As Finns did by listing artillery as coastal defence because those didn't have limitations on numbers.

>>63863104
According to google they've destroyed atleast 1 Million and the treaty prohibits owning, storing and using, so they should'nt have any left. But I'm sure they have some in a warehouse in lappland or something,
>>63863300
>I mean it'll be sad to lose the only BT-42 in the world, but it's a reasonable price to pay for total vatnik death.
No it's not

>>63863012 (OP)
Good. The world could always use more landmines, as I always say.

>>63863126
>Nook nook
More like
>ringading

>>63863104
Domestic production will begin shortly. Fortunately anti-personnel mines aren't exactly high tech

>>63863488
based finns

>>63863503
Take the plastic or metal prong off the top and you can store it as a small clearing explosive for engineers ;)

>>63863012 (OP)
>>63863104
I'm shocked, SHOCKED, that all that virtue signalling bullshit goes straight out the window the moment you get a little bit nervous about your neighbors.

>>63863773
What virtue signalling have the Finns done?

>>63863777
Signed the ottawa treaty under the most leftist government we could ever have had. It was virtue signaling and partly treasonous, although i suppose they didnt betray their true masters

>>63863764
Those aren't technically land mines are they?
Didn't the Finns already invent something equivalent that doesn't count?

>>63863777
>What virtue signalling have the Finns done?
NTA but I think he's talking about the Finns ratifying the Ottawa convention in the first place

>Ugh, landmines are so dangerous and inhumane that we'll promise not to use them
>Oh berkele Russia might do something stupid time to mine the border :DDD

>>63863014
They're getting nuked for sure if they try something. Its impossible to fight up there conventionally.

>>63863802
>>63863773
Are you mad about this? Russia's too dangerous to trust, and no one knows what else those fucking retards will do.

pow finnisussy in the trenches

>>63863773

But Putin was so friendly when he visited president Tarja in Finland. Surely there never will be any need to keep up a defence force now.

>>63863012 (OP)
WARCRIME. Finland must immediately withdraw from Nato to repent their sin

>>63863012 (OP)
based as fuck

>>63863104
They can make new ones, including electronic lock ones you plant years earlier and then activate when the chimp out begins

Bigger issue is that finns, like everybody else, is years behind drone war. Nordics and balts are sending people to learn from ukranians, but with US paralyzed by the orange brain tumor, it's only a matter of years to months until entire eastern flank has to join in on the TZD

>>63863012 (OP)
Based, minefields are fun for decades to come

>>63863801
We have some mines left for "training purposes" but not enough. Easy as shit to make more though

>>63863012 (OP)
not my problem

>>63863914
>but with US paralyzed by the orange brain tumor
I like how you can instantly tell when a poster is European because they will break out the most boomer ass nicknames for Trump. Its like I'm in 2010 again and 50 year old dudes in cheap sports shades and beer hats are calling Obama "Obummer".

>>63864032
To be honest it is a perfectly understandable sentiment, Trump has done perhaps irreparable damage to US foreign relations with his antics.

This isn't so that they can mine the border, it is so they can arm Ukraine with them. It's still peace time and you don't want random mines around roads since you know idiots are going to drive over them (both Finnish and Russian). If Russia ever gears up for conflict in the Balkans or Finland, the border would be heavily mined.

>>63863012 (OP)
Fucking FINALLY. As my grandpa always said, there is nothing but the enemy coming from the east.

>>63863777
Finns virtue signal by not using the orbital laser left over from the Finno-Korean hyperwar to destroy Moscow

>>63864032
>if you don’t like trump you are European

>>63864036
well, it's also to retrain our reservists with every single aspect of of enemy-triggered device that was banned under Ottawa treaty

>>63863890
Do you think there ever was a time when he was truly interested in maintaining good relations with Europe?
Or was it always a game to see how badly he could subvert them, how badly he could make them dependent on Russian resources before the great chimpout and the rise of the Pootinate?

It just seems to me that his behavior changed quite a bit around the time he pulled the term limit trick with Medvedev in 2008-2012 and then set himself up as the eternal president.
Guess he had no reason to hold back at that point: He and his spook mafia had the government, the major corporations and the media mostly under control by then.

>>63864049
That statement was neither pro or anti Trump but your mind instantly jumping to this is a good illustration, so thank you.

>>63864032
hes just a reddiitor

>>63864066
Having a shit nickname is common for presidents so I don’t how you immediately think of Europe

>>63864032
alright here's a simpler one
the moron

>>63864117
I like "orange nigger". It lacks the finesse and wit, but it's pretty straight to the point.

>>63863814
>Are you mad about this?
I'm not. I just think they could have saved themselves some trouble and embarrassment by not clutching pearls in the first place.

>>63864032
>the most boomer ass nicknames for Trump
What is your personally approved whitelist of Trump insults then?

>>63863777
Expected Russia to behave like a white country

>>63864058
yes, and in a way, i think he still is, just not for the reasons that the rest of europe thought he was. what he wants the friendly relationship to be is that people support his regime and buy his shit at cheap prices, while looking the other way on what he decides to do with all that money you give him. it's the arrangement he got used to, and the one that he realized didn't work the way he thought it did when he started fucking around in georgia.

>>63863012 (OP)
Imagine those sluts being raped by Russians :3

>>63864186
kys

>>63864123
Bloated orange carcass.

>>63864151
God Emperor Trump (anon mildly dislikes monarchy, but not because of ideological reasons but because he views it as E*ropean)

>>63864151
"Tangerine Tard" has a nice ring to it

>>63864123
Agent orangs is fav no cap fr fr

>>63864151
Taco. Its perfect for him

>>63864035

Japan's closest ally is a country that nuked them twice. France and Germany are close allies despite two world wars in 30 years. Israel and Germany are on good terms in spite of the Holocaust. There's no such thing as irreparable foreign relations.

>>63864280
Those involved massive political and cultural changes in germany and japan. I don't see that happen in america any time soon.

>>63864151
Tariff man is a classic

>>63863014
Why did janny delete my frog there’s nothing in the rules that says you cannot frog post >>63603106

>>63864280
Those were directly related to the reliability of the USA as an ally. Japan and Germany needed protection from the aspirations of China and the CCCP. The US was a global hegemon and a security guarantor, but now that they have demonstrated that they can't be relied on, the damage done can actually be irreparable. Because at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter how strong your ally is when they can just turn on a dime whenever the president changes and simply cut you off to play buddy with your adversary instead.

>>63863773
Isnt this just reverse virtue signaling though? If it was in view of a genuine threat, this would have been rushed through in 2022. Instead they waited almost 4 years until Putins almost out of tanks, deploying guys on crutches and Korean penal battalions and facing a serious demographic collapse at home, before saying "but what if Vlad invades binland next?". Its absurd. Not just finland, a lot of the euro response to the war has been gay posturing, and more self-indulgent than helpful.

>>63864489
>The US was a global hegemon and a security guarantor, but now that they have demonstrated that they can't be relied on
How?

>>63864280
especially with a bunch of money changing hands

>>63864503
Apart from tacoing out of supporting ukraine? They also threatened two of their allies (canada and denmark) with annexation of territory.

>>63864511
so nothing but they're jerks. Got it.

>>63864511
It's not exactly news to anyone but the trust in the US has absolutely and completely cratered. I think a lot of Americans don't even understand just how thoroughly Trump destroyed the image of the US abroad and it would probably take four consecutive admins doing their best to be all about transatlanticism and whatnot to get somewhere similar to before the second Trump presidency. Of course whether or not one should care about that is up for debate but only a retard thinks that Trump hasn't essentially caused fundamentally permanent changes.

>>63864511
Plus, the tariff debacle. Plus, the alleged disabling of the EW pods on the Danish F16's. Plus, voting against the West in an UN resolution to condemn Russia as the aggressor in the Ukraine war. Plus, recent Trump refusal to SELL Ukraine Patriot batteries.

And a lot of other things besides.

>>63864151
Donnie TwoWeeks

>>63864523
There's so many things it's hard to keep track.

>>63863014
Well, for starters that'd ruin the land they'd want to claim, on top of waste a part of their 'very' limited nuclear arsenal on a minor target relative to the US and/or China whose economies they 'have' to cripple ASAP if they want any chance to
Not die

>>63864497
Finland has given 6th most aid per capita/GDP to Ukraine and expanded weapons production to keep supplying them. I'd call that something other than posturing. And talks about nullifying the treaty began almost immediately after the new government took power. But the gear of bureaucracy and politics turn slowly.

>>63864470
>there’s nothing in the rules that says you cannot frog post
"Very low effort" is a reporting reason.
Also, frog posting is usually a flood of slide threads so it could just be a jannie pissed at frog posters in general, or just friendly fire.
If your post survived then you're probably just being told to pick better pics

>>63863012 (OP)
>The finns have voted to withdraw from the Ottawa convention. Soon the Russian border will be nothing but mines of all kinds
Song of the thread
https://youtu.be/aKIDvFcpfu8
Also fuck Canada those french wannble niggers.

>>63864777
That song is funny because "Miina" is also a Finnish women's name.

>>63864137
The whole point behind disarmament and non-proliferation treaties is to save money from building weapons and put them towards something else - that's why they're "conventions". Mines are pretty simple to restart production.

>>63864489
Lol euros are retards. They cant keep up .mil spending cause it fucks over their utopian desires, theyll come around eventually cause there are no real men left in europe, only serfs needing a king, sucking the tit of whoever is in charge, content with being a tributary people as long as their lives remain comfortable. The best of you left to come here a hundred years ago.

>>63864771
That is a global rule and on every other board frogposting is fine, meaning it cannot be interpreted that way. The board rules don’t state no frogs. Jannies think this is a subreddit or something.

>>63863012 (OP)
Good, knowing what they do to civilians as seen in the 2014 and 2022 invasions, you can''t show mercy to vatniggers.

>>63864048
they'd never dare to use any of their hyperwar archeotech except in an existential war, the risk of hwan remnants reactivating the autism array is too great. (that is, if they could even jury rig the control unit to accept with nerve stapled post-war humans)

>>63864497
Never underestimate the power of copium and wishful thinking
>it possibly can't happen here!
Like baltic trio has just now gotten around to mining, bunkering up and trenching the border even though they have been way more vulnerable then the militarised finland

Agent Orange effect is just so strong everybody knows you can't count on american support for anything in the next years

>>63864032
"Obongo" still makes me chuckle.

>>63864511
Forget about ukraine, taco man is cucking out of even helping out israel against iran. Just have his infamous two weeks diplomacy ultimatum again kek

Taiwan better prepare for a naval blockage as the next years are going to be rough

>>63865063
>only serfs needing a king
There you go on projecting yourself unto others again lakhta pidoraska. Get it through your brown mongoloid brain, normal world does not operate like your failed mafia gas station wannabe empire

>>63865715
>Agent Orange effect is just so strong everybody knows you can't count on american support for anything in the next years
And that will almost certainly have a detrimental effect on the american hegemony. If Europe can't count on American support, it will be forced to properly militarise, and that may lead to a new global competitor rather than ally to the US. And even if they remain allies, it will be much more difficult for the Americans to strong arm Europeans to do their bidding.

>>63864151
king nigger the second

>>63864489
Don’t shut down the country for two years, don’t print trillions of dollars on stupid bullshit, don’t replace your high IQ formerly extremely loyal population with a million brown third worlders. I don’t understand why this is so hard to understand. You want a hegemon? Then don’t destroy the country from within. You can blame orange man all you want but the reality is the country was already in serious shit, every president and congress that came before him since 1965 is far more to blame. The only way to avoid the timeline we are in now is to go back to the 80’s repeal hart cellar, build a wall and make an aggressive cultural push for right wing politics and nationalism. You’re 40 years too late to undo the rot.

>>63864151
flipflop donny

>>63865727
Wtf is it with ziggers and two weeks? It was two weeks to capture Ukraine, now its two weeks to finish Iran
Is it something special with the concept of 14 fucking days that i dont get?

>>63866368
Short enough time to seem quick, but long enough time to not require immediate actions to accomplish what you said.

>>63864035
Oh no, the big orange meanie called us bad names! They should be thankful he got them to finally start spending more on their own defense. Besides, once a Democrat wins the next election, Europe will forget Trump like a bad dream.

>>63866389
Yeah no this won't get forgotten anon, publicly threatening annexation is a bit beyond getting allies to increase defence spending

>>63863014
Then after firing theor 60 fucntional nukes at Finland, the US kills them and they get turned into glass.

>>63864151
Personally always been a fan of Zion Don. I don't even hate Israelis THAT much, but it rolls off the tongue and makes his supporters seethe like nothing else. Did they really think a rich businessman from New York would NOT kneel to the Moshis of the Eastern Seaboard?

>>63866406
>I don't even hate Israelis THAT much, but it rolls off the tongue and makes his supporters seethe like nothing else.
That part has always fascinated me about the MAGA crowd, just really strange to watch

>>63864503
>American politicians and military members spend 60 years building goodwill with most of the international community, establishing partnerships, and making seemingly unbreakable promises of support
>Reactionary populists who don't read and don't know what tariffs even are vote in a reality tv host best known for firing people, who then fires all of the people the Europeans have been working with for decades to replace them with nepobaby hires who go "sorry the president says you're on your own"
There are certain positions that are expected to be replaced with a new administration. Trump fired or threatened to prosecute half of the goddamn government, even the people who aren't particularly political and just do their job (maintaining the US's strategic goals regardless of who runs the show). He's already basically defunded the US National Parks Service. Why? Because fuck park rangers I guess?

>>63866202
>make an aggressive cultural push for right wing politics and nationalism
Retard. Boomer logic and pining for "better days" is why everyone under the age of 35 is beyond fucked. The right wing just wants to give boomers, who are the richest human beings to have ever lived, even more wealth, because they tend to support the right. If the right could kill every single Millenial to extend the lives of boomers by two decades, they would, happily.

>>63863798
If justice was served they would have hanged moomin mamma from the lamp post for this desicion.

>>63866433
>Hate Jews
>But love Trump and Israel
>But still call anyone they don't like a Jew
>But support the guy actively criminalizing criticism of Israel (he is withholding 400 million dollars of grants from Ivy League schools for not expelling students holding pro-Palestine rallies)
>But REALLY hate Jews and believe they control a globalist network plotting the downfall of America
>But Trump is good though because he deported 60% of construction workers

>be me, kid in early 2000s
>go mushroom picking with grandma next to Kaliningrad/Poland border
>walk around, pretty lost
>might've stepped over heavily rusted razor wire
>silent shadows rise from piles of leaves, point guns and scream that we've wandered into Poland
>they realize we're a kid and an old lady
>politely escort us back
>let us keep the shrooms
>never even saw russian border guards
Fucking Putin

>>63866435
>He's already basically defunded the US National Parks Service. Why? Because fuck park rangers I guess?
Nigga, have you seen how woke Smokey Bear has become? Suddenly its all about Free Palestine, eyeliner, climate change and "Only trannies can prevent forrest fires". Shit had to go, man

Imagine believing GAYRAPEANS can manufacture shit in this millenium.
They will produce double digit at most of artesanal mines and call it kwit.

>>63866472
cope

>>63866450
Neoprotestant attitude towards jews is genuinely schizo. This stems from their absolutely insane beliefs regarding the whole rapture thing.
Basically, neoprots hate jews because those worship the same thing they do (money), but in the wrong way. However, neoprots strongly believe that they need to herd all jews into Israel in order to reach a sort of religious critical mass and spirit bomb themselves, demon core-style, into bringing (the white version of) Jesus back. So they strongly support the Israeli state, the same way a hunter supports conservation efforts, while at the same time being antisemitic (which they consider also helps push more jews into moving to Israel).

>>63863012 (OP)
And that's a good thing!

>>63866450
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.

>>63866510
Thank god (heh) for separation of church and state then, problem solved

>>63864151
The kneeler

>>63864151
I would never insult Bibi's servant

>>63866368
It's short enough that it feels immediate, and it's long enough to memory hole. Especially in todays social media addicted ADHD age

>>63866406
Even more hilarious, he is throwing the Israelis under the bus now that the going gets rough. IAF has neutered irans AD and effective resistance. All he has to do is send in bombers with bunker busters to neutralize the dug in enrichment sites. Instead, you get two weeks taco when every hour counts kek

>>63866606
He managed to alienate every side of his electorate, it's fucking uncanny.

>>63864151
Bald orange pedophile retard

>>63866510
The actual fuck is the origin of this theological psychosis?

>>63866613
Monke is still pretty happy with him. And if monke is happy then so is the payed for fifth column like jones and subway cucker. So not all of them

>>63866617
Martin Luther? The man was seething about "da joos".
And that was during the time when the Fourth Council of Lateran's bullshit regulations were in effect.

>>63866620
Pretty sure Cucker and other monke's fifth columnists like Owens were seething too.

>>63866465
Well bear is a term for a subspieces of homosexuals. Bet "smokey" is also his nickname in the local gay club

misder sergeant I forgot where i put dhe mines :-DDDD

>>63866626
>the bear will leave the cock cage forever

>>63866631
Someone post the Binlan military service cycle maymay pl0x

>>63866617
Calvin
A huge number of the American settlers were Calvinists, fleeing religious persecution and common sense. Grouped together and relatively isolated from the Old World, they were free to develop the philosophy further, far beyond what European Calvinists ever considered reasonable.

>>63863104
AP mines are very cheap to make. Basically a grenade with a different fuse.

>>63866642
this one? I only got it in binnis tho

>>63866666
It also goes around with English translation. But yes, this is exactly what I mean, overpowered Satan.

>>63866626
>The mighty bear will stick its log into the opening and trap the fire

>>63866666
And since we're waiting for someone to post the English translation - could you explain how military service works in Finland? age? time? what do you actually do?

>>63866667
>>63866672
found it
t:mega satan

>>63866654
Kinda odd since the biggest historically Calvinist country in Europe (The Netherlands) has always been exceptionally "tolerant" towards the jews (Read: only slightly more oppressed than the Catholics).

>>63866677
dog bless :DDDDDDD

>>63866680
once people got to colonial america there was nothing stopping them from being unhinged make-believers of whatever they fancied, it was a happy accident that they became a world power

>>63866606
>when every hour counts
Iran has been 2 weeks from nukes for 2 decades now.

>>63863014
>In a WW3 scenario wouldnt Russia just drop 100 megaton nukes on Finland until it was a giant radioactive crater? I doubt they’d set foot on it

There are only moral, no technological, obstacles that prevent Finland from manufacturing nuclear weapons and their delivery systems. You are a tiny bitch when compared to the force of the atom.

I don't think the world would lose anything if the whole russian population was immolated by nuclear fire. I think the world would GAIN from it. There are only GOOD sides to russians getting killed, it has always been this way.

>>63866708
> There are only GOOD sides to russians getting killed
the only bad thing about killing russians is that there are now less russians left to kill and if you kill them all future generations won't be able to kill them at all

>>63866695
But from one side developing into the European bastion of "religious freedom" (keep it out of sight and we don't care) and the other into intolerant fundamentalists I think it's not just Calvinism that is the root cause.
I'm well aware that immense room for expansion allowed people to start their own communities of whatever gobbledygook they believed in, but I think it's something a bit more than just "extremist Calvinism"

>>63866672
you get a call-up notice on the year you turn 18. At the call-up they do a basic health check and an interview to hear where you'd prefer to serve.
later you'll receive mail telling you what service branch, which brigade, which platoon and so on you will serve in.
what role you end up getting determines how long you serve:
165 days for basic roles like infantry
255 for specialist roles like mitarly police and medics
347 days for everyone else, like NCO, ROs, crew members and so on.

>>63866734
it depends if you're a useful idiot or not which perspective you'll have, but basically the question of who rules the middle east has been unsolved since wwi and white people pragmatically chose jews over christians (or arabs obviously) in that region. that choice has never actually resulted in its intended effect but it never stopped them from trying. also france feels betrayed by this choice

>>63866789
I wasn't talking about modern day politics, but still referring to The US and The Netherlands and how the different branches of Calvinism developed in the 16th-19th century, but I see how "European bastion of religious freedom" was unnecessarily ambiguous.

>>63866672
>>63866783
>what do you actually do?
fug forgot about this one
those that serve 165 days: after basic training you enter your unit and start doing unit level trainig
those that serve 265 and 347 days: after basic training they start specialist training and after that unit training with the fresh batch of
165 days serving morttis

>>63866672
Bedder qualidy version

>>63866808
that's the thing about modern politics though, if you can get enough previously irrelevant weirdos into a coalition you can do great things

>>63866836
Yeah, but I'm wondering why these particular formerly irrelevant weirdos are weird in this particular way while their counterparts in Europe are weird in the opposite way, despite nominally having similar beliefs.

>>63866783
Can you add addtional days? For example after 140 days in infantry you say you like it so much you wanna do a whole year? Or do you have to sign a contract to "properly" join?

>>63866844
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_E._Blackstone

>>63866783
>>63866816
e/b/in:DDDD
dhank u:DDDDDD

>>63866850
>Can you add addtional days?
not that I can think of, you can't apply for specialist roles if you've already entered service.
>Or do you have to sign a contract to "properly" join?
FDF only offers contracts to officers
So your only options as an non-officer is joining the UN peacekeepers or some foreign legion

>>63863012 (OP)
Mmm, snow bunnies.

>>63866903
So you can't spend a year or two as Grunt passing time? Unfortunate

>>63863104
>have a stash
They need nice fresh, self=deactivating mines.

>>63866909
unfortunaly no, the defence force doesnt need grunts when they get a fresh batch every six months.
they do offer some NCOs 3 month "summer contracts" just to have some extra hands to deal with all the fresh recruits but thats about it.

>>63863890
>president Tarja
I thought Finland had a hottie milf for prez?

>>63866914
PM
Sanna Marin

>>63865721
Malaysian Man.

>>63866903
You can apply for driver as half-year guy and get extension into full year if you have drivers licence. Of course it depends if it gets accepted, but it is possible of there is lack of drivers in batch.
Also drivers can become professional military drivers.

>>63863014
Unfortunately, Finland joined NATO so there would be obligatory nuclear retaliation.

>>63866924
Thank you for clarifying. Would.

>>63866931
oh yeah guess that's true, honestly was just going by old memory and whats listed on the fdf's website

>>63866914
>>63866924
>>63866941

>>63863104
>Do they still have a stash of anti-personnel mines somewhere, or will they have to go shopping next?

The mines were supposed to be destroyed but the definition of "destroyed" can be flexible.

This means there's a lot of miscellaneous "engineering charges" stored somewhere, right next to "metal scrap" which - if combined - magically becomes a land mine.

>>63863012 (OP)
Based.
>>63863014
Nook? Nook nook?

>>63867057
why do people go all crazy over our prior politician? she was a ordinary boring politician.
t. finn

>>63867057
>>63867062

>>63867066
Some guys started the whole catgirl meme, it caught on outside of finland, more and more people saw it.
Also helps that she is a female politician that does not look like she got dug up from a cementary. In terms of political figures, she's probably one of the more attractive females, which helped the "popularity"
Atleast that's what I think

>>63866913
Unlucky, but atleast it means that people can't waste their entire youth in the army.
>Captcha SSRSS

>>63864511
>taco
Redditor

>>63866903
Not true. Most (all?) basic units have career NCOs working under contract. There are even entry level sergeant positions mainly intended as easy way of checking out the military career. This is an option for those who (after conscription) go into the reserve as NCO of 2nd lieutenant.
Those who did their conscription in special forces can try to apply to career special forces and usually work as an NCO there.

NCOs make less money than officers, but they have more stable careers, as they can usually stay in the same company or brigade for the full length of it. Officers will have to move around as they rise in ranks.

Officers go through military academy where you complete your bachelors (3 years) and become lieutenant. Then you work, usually (always?) training conscripts for about 5 years and go back to school to do your masters (2 years) after which you become a captain.

>>63866698
Nobody is talking about le scary nook tard. Israel can't sustain air only operations 1500 kilometres from home perpetually, and it takes time to organize the bombing raids

>>63867179
Usually when you start your career in FDF, be it as an officer or NCO, you start as a conscript platoon leader (or 2nd in command if being solely responsible for the whole platoon would be too burdensome and there are no personnel shortages).Basically you train conscripts for some 5+ years. As you rise in ranks you get more administrative tasks and see the conscripts less. Be it the tasks of company sergeant or company commander, later higher staff jobs.
Every soldier working in the FDF has gone through the same (similar) conscription service, so there is a common experience that the young "summer sergeant", the +40yo career NCO and the high brass general share.

>>63863773
>I'm shocked, SHOCKED, that all that virtue signalling bullshit goes straight out the window the moment you get a little bit nervous about your neighbors.

Lel :D

Don't be shocked, the spineless, leftist, mostly female finns excel in peacetime with their finlandized submissive teamwork attitudes, but behind the thin shell there's the smart, PRACTICAL will to kill people - the will of the finnish men.

You have a whole population of engineering-oriented men who have absolutely no problem to maintain and develop weapon systems to kill "people" from russia. It's like a hobby, you put your mind and body into it and ENJOY it instead of being forced to do it.

>>63863890
>Tarja

Tarja Halonen is a sick product of the finlandization era, where young people were brainwashed by the then-finnish government and continuous 24/7 propaganda from the soviet union.

She grew up in it, she took the propaganda-induced ideas with her to the future and betrayed Finland with her disarmament policies the moment she got into power.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finlandization

Such people do not depict the mental state of the finnish people, they exploit the democratic system for anti-democratic actions and should be tried for these actions too.

>>63863012 (OP)
>Soon the Russian border will be nothing but mines of all kinds
As it should be in every country.

What is it about the Finnish psyche that induces a pathological obsession with mines? I swear you autists would line your mattresses with them if you could.

>>63867309
I would not because im finnish but because i wanna see the boogeyman finished

>>63867302
Blaming it on finlandization is inaccurate and absolves Halonen from her traitorous actions. Plenty of people grew up in that culture without turning into traitorous russophiles.

>>63866677
Crazy how relatable this is. I guess mandatory service is more or less the same around the world.

t. denbts

>>63867309
>cost effective
>conscript friendly
>earthworks autism

Pic related is what the Company combat order (Komppanian taisteluohje) available online says about building obstacles. It is in parts poorly translated

>>63867309
Mines is how you stop the Soviet armored armadas.
When your least-defensible terrain is pieces of road like this, mines are the best.

>>63866465
There is a difference between "stop that" and "fire 60% of your workforce and stop being a functional entity".

>>63866617
Being American and extremely religious (but not being able/willing to read any religious works). If you mention Thomas Aquinas to the average American they'll tell you they know nothing about Rome.

>>63866716
We need Russian nature preserves where they can steal washing machines and play modded STALKER, unbothered by real Europeans, but also no threat to anyone because of segregation.

>>63867057
>>63867062
>>63867066
>>63867067

>>63867309
Everyone near Russia loves mines.

>>63866936
>Finland joined NATO so there would be obligatory nuclear retaliation.
Not saying that anon isn't retarded, but that's not how NATO works. When a member is attacked the other members don't need to respond in kind. They just have to respond in some way. Other members are not even obliged to declare war or enter hostilities. Yes, even just sending supplies is fine. Article 5 is bullshit. Interoperability is the real strength of NATO.
In fact, most defense treaties are the same shit. The text of the treaty itself is close to meaningless.

>>63864049
NTA but if you don't like Trump you sure as fuck aren't a real American

>>63865715
>>63866152
I know that
>haha Israel owns America
is the meme here but Trump has made it really clear in recent days that he loves involving the US in stupid shit like helping countries across the Atlantic deal with their problems. His posturing to get European nations to take at least a passing interest in their self-defense is nothing but peacocking and you both know it.

>>63867738
idk haven't liked him on tv since the second season of the apprentice

>>63863014
>nuke your border neighbor to pwn the anglo saxi

>>63867738
t. Sergio Gor

>>63867738
>checks polls
Yeah like 70% of americans don't like trump

>>63867738
Why would a real American like an authoritarian from the East Coast with an immigrant wife who has done nothing but line the pockets of already-rich grifters? Why would I not vote for a well-educated white man with a white wife who actually knows what he's talking about and hates people like Musk and Bezos?

>>63867865
That's the American dream!

>>63866389
The biggest problem isn't that Trump got into power and did a bunch of stupid shit. The problem is that Trump got into power and had the country's foreign policy do a complete 180. Now that the US has demonstrated that it's possible for a single individual to get into power and then effectively sever all alliances, you simply cannot consider the US a reliable ally anymore. Even if some less deranged individual gets elected next season and they start patching up relations, all US allies now have knowledge that the next administration could undo every effort and start sucking up to the Russians again. Or maybe it's the Chinese this time around, who knows.

>>63868561
>chinese
President musk 2032 confirmed

>>63867548
Anon, anon was talking about Smokey the Bear taking a stand on Palestinian Genocide, can you not distinguish this humour from reality?

>>63867279
>>63867302
It is admirable to be trusting and optimistic in peacetime. More so when you can pivot to aggression in less trusting times.
Both strategies are essential to civilisational success, as is the political agility to move between them as required.

>>63866615
>pedophile
That's the one vice I don't credit him with.
He seems to like big titted blonde women.
Tracy Lords would be his ideal woman but any teenager that looked like a child would probably be mostly safe.

>>63867610
You're late >>63867075

>>63864035
>irreparable damage to US foreign relations
>stop nato freeloading and spend more on defense
>RRRRREEEEEEEEEEE I HAET YOU!!!
With friends like these? Oh wait are you talking about the Greenland stuff? Aww whats the matter, muttposter can't take the bantz?

>>63868561
>real democracy in action confuses and enrages the eurotrash
>>63868589
Musk is on the India ticket.

>>63869003
gb2/pol/ child

>>63864058
I firmly believe Putin went total paranoid after Libya and Syria, and the constant talk about also invading Iran. He sees regime change as a real threat and believes the CIA is behind the Arab spring, orange revolution etc. Thats why post 2012 or so he's gone into bunker mentality and "the soviets were right all along" mode. Before then, yeah, I think he may have wanted to deal with the West.

>>63866708
Now hold on. They make pretty decent video games like STALKER and Atom.

>>63868561
>Now that the US has demonstrated that it's possible for a single individual to get into power and then effectively sever all alliances

This has happened every four years since the beginning of America. The US never honors alliances when it's inconvenient to do so, never has, and never will. It's fun how you brainlets all seem to think history began the day the bad orange man was elected.

>>63869198
>>63869071
What you're describing isn't even remotely true, the US had a policy of remaining constant in its foreign relations regardless of what administration was in charge. That's what breeds trust in your allies. For the entirety of NATO's existence, things have never been this bad.

>>63869173
Stalker was made by Ukrainians, anon.

>>63869218
pretty much. people who deny this are either shills or those who'd rather cut off their nose to spite their face, which is a very common feature of american politics unfortunately

good, "getting rid of them" was the dumbest political theater ever

a super effective and cheap weapon, literally just three parts that can be made domestically, because finland is currently building a new tnt factory

>>63863012 (OP)
I don't normally have a horse in the race over there but I fucking say kill any damn dirty nigger ape that opposes the finnish people

>>63869080
Funny thing is the real cia has been one of the most impotent and ineffective services when it comes to this stuff. Now all but braindead as a literal zigger asset is neutering them from inside out

>>63867073
>she's probably one of the more attractive females
Counterpoint: Katri's kulmunis

>>63864035
Don't blame me, Oakland Kam got my vote

>>63864151
Stupid poopoo diaper blumpf baby
>>63868908
>ignoring how he said he wanted to bang Ivanka when she was 13

>>63863773
Euros: AMERICA STOP MEDDLING IN FOREIGN AFFAIRS YOU GOT WHAT YOU DESERVED ON 9/11
America: ok, fine
Euros: OMG WTF WHY ARE YOU ABANDONING OUR ALLIES!!! YOU MUST ALL BE RUSSIAN AGENTS!!!!!!!!!

>>63863012 (OP)
Mines are back more than ever before. Australia ordered one billion dollars worth of sea mines in 2023.

>>63863012 (OP)
>>63863014
>>63863016
Won't matter; if AIPAC wants americans to die in Eastern Europe, it's going to happen anyway.

>>63866406
Same, it's just fun to say.

>>63869198
This desu. You can never really predict what America will do. They promised continued support for South Vietnam, then cut off funding abruptly. They got the Kurds to do their dirty work, then dropped them and left them to die. They suddenly pulled out of Afghanistan leaving partners high and dry. They promised to leave Nicaragua alone, then did the Iran-Contra affair.

>>63869696
>AMERICA STOP MEDDLING IN FOREIGN AFFAIRS YOU GOT WHAT YOU DESERVED ON 9/11
Like maybe 1% of people in Europe think like this. You're in a weird social media bubble.

>>63864280
>Japan's closest ally is a country that nuked them twice.
Why do you think that is? They had to spend time as a puppet state. We rewrote their constitution and made them rubber stamp it, dismantled any institutions with any anti-Americanism, and took over their media so that only favorable information on the US is publishable. And even after regaining autonomy the CIA was running things behind the scenes for a time via their influence over Nobusuke Kishi. It's only because of these steps that Japan didn't fall back into hating the US.
Germany, likewise, was only welcomed back into the fold because they got their teeth kicked in and were occupied.
It's like a wound. You need to go in and clean it out or it will fester. How do you propose rebuilding the societies of countries like the UK or Italy if they start to consider the US less than reliable?

>>63863016
Helsinki is on the coast, this is one for the giant torpedo of doom. Also when this goes down St Petersburg is going to have every west-facing window blown out, but whatever, got to break eggs.

>>63863104
They should talk to the Italians. Italians were the last and best say in industrial scale AP mine production. I bet they pickled their factory tooling when everything got shut down.

>>63869570
>There can be more than one
>>63871590
>Like maybe 1% of people in Europe think like this
Depends where you live, it's a more common way of thinking, atleast in the general "Ami go home" sense, but not as common as >>63869696 seems to think

>>63863012 (OP)
Are both of them Finnish?
Because left looks like hapa and right looks white

>>63863104
>>63863503
>>63867058
I have a good friend who is a finn and is /in/, all they did was redesignate them as "anti-vehicle mines" before stashing them away as to skirt around the regulations, they were all "disposed off" but they all still exist. The production lines for them were never dismanteled either and were even getting maintainence as they planned to start producing them and throw them back out the second the ziggers got a bit too confident in their imperialistic aspirations, they were planing to break the ottowa convention instantly. Very based if you ask me.
>source
trust me bro, genunielly.

>>63871887
>I have a good friend who is a finn and is /in/, all they did was redesignate them as "anti-vehicle mines" before stashing them away as to skirt around the regulations, they were all "disposed off" but they all still exist.
This is more like a myth and has no actual confirmed basis for it.
The anti-personnel mines were destroyed in great numbers, and this action was publicized in the media, to the quiet despair of anyone who understood and cared.

>Every day, the professionals of the Defence Forces' explosives department pile up a day's worth of ammunition at the top of the Hukkakero danger zone. It consists of six truckloads of ammunition. The maximum quantity of explosives in the charge is just under thirty thousand kilos. The rest is mainly iron. The gross weight of the largest charges is 100 000 kilograms.
>Lieutenant Colonel Tero Luukkonen, head of the explosives department, says that the mines will be destroyed ahead of schedule.
>- In accordance with the Ottawa Convention, the Defence Forces have committed themselves to the destruction of all anti-personnel mines by 2016. The Defence Forces will do this ahead of schedule, i.e. by the end of 2015 all mines will have been destroyed.

https://yle.fi/a/3-6264648

The Finnish people were betrayed by pro-Russian politicians like Halonen. That's all there is to it.
There's multiple lists of these traitorous politicians, like the Stasi list
https://suomensotilas.fi/2022/03/24/stasi-lista/
or Tiitinen's list

>>63871177
>AIPAC
>eastern europe
???

>>63864151
>Zion Don
>That fat orange retarded nigger

>>63871177
AIPAC wants all White European Christians to die so they can usher in the talmudic age.
>>63872023
>who runs Ukraine
>who are 14 of the 15 richest Russian oligarchs

>>63871652
> the giant torpedo of doom that doesn’t work
FTFY

>>63871829
So you're saying it's like hapas, but actually blonde, slightly autisitic and addicted to sauna?

>>63872293
I think that's just one guy bro

>>63864470
Jannies please explain where it says in the rules one cannot post a frog on /k/ since you deleted it? I know you're reading this.

>>63872792
Frog posting is a predictor of slide threads and shit posting.

>>63864117
>the moron
Do you realize how little that narrows it down?

>>63866202
>The only way to avoid the timeline we are in now is to double down on the corruption
Huh.

>>63872792
Xir, the Pepe symbol was described as the "new swastika" by the ADL and is not allowed on the trans-positive diaperfurries for Ukraine subreddit, please educate yourself sweet summer child

Westoid jew finn want cheap dnagerous solutions because they don't care about ossi finnish (real finland) at all.

Anti person mines do not stop russian engineering companies, only things that stops them stop russia.

>>63869080
Before Lybia and Syria putler was busy doing exactly what he was accusing "the wect" in Ukraine and Checnya and invading Georgia. the anti american agitprop was also working full time already, just that nobody noticed as today.
There Lybia and Syria is just his evil nato nazis in Ukraine spiel

>>63873281
Wtf are you talking about? "Ossi finnnish"? Ossi is just a generic male name.

>>63873300
Learn history zoomer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossi_and_Wessi

Perfectly appliciable to Finland. Esster finland is strong brown haired males who does work and western finland is weak blonde haired xirs who handle money.

>>63873300
Possibly Ossi as in East-Germans and their problems related to past decades of soviet-flavored indoctrination.

>>63867366
I think you don't understand difference of anti personnel and anti tank mines. If you did, you would understand that we don't need anti personnel traps.

>>63873310
>>63873314

Lmfao, I'm Finnish and never have I heard that term applied to anyone here. And there's barely any differentation between west and east finns, it's more north & south Finns. It's pretty hilarious what foreigners come up with about us.

Source: Born in Rovaniemi, lived in Oulu and currently live in Tampere.

>>63873325
Im from the autonomous federal republic of Åland and this applies perfectly to Finland you Kareloid liar.

>>63873325
Of course because you cannot think outside of your small box. Rovaniemi can't raise thinkers, Oulu is smelly. Tampere is troon city. All these cities have drug problems and disbelief in God. Also western finland except rovaniemi may have strong eastern bounds

Cities like St Michael, Castle of Savonia and Strand of Lappe observe the truest finland. Strong men. Womanly women. All belief in God and behave True. Clean and nice places. If one thunks what heaven looks like they Go to Lach Saimaa and find their Answer.

>>63873325
You Will Never Be Scandinavian

>>63873337
Nobody gives a fuck what an island swedupelle thinks.

>>63873339
Please, tell me more about my own country.

>>63873355
We don't want to be scandinavian, most finns will correct you that we're nordic if you call us as such.

>>63873371
You don't even think Saimaa belongs to Finland. The westoid plan is now clear: plant anti personnel mines eastern side of saimaa and hide in west side.

>>63873378
Come test that theory then, faggot. And oh yeah, fuck your superstitious bullshit. I wouldn't even be friends with somebody who held a strong religious belief, not that there's much of those in Finland anyways, which is a good thing.

>>63873389
You are from rovaniemi. You speak dialect of east and have brown hair. Your neighbours think you are a subhuman and inferior.

>>63873397
Lmao, I don't speak any dialect really, like most finns. You couldn't tell where I was from from my Finnish. I do have brown hair though, oh the horror, whatever shall I do.

>>63873408
Oh I can tell just fine. The dimorphism is so strong.

>>63867080
>pic
Go on.

>>63873355
>>63873376
half of scandinavia and entire northeastern russia is rightful finnish clay

>>63873438
Nah fuck those swedes. We'll take the eastern parts and reunite with our Estonian brothers, though we'll have to "relocate" some russians in the process.

>>63872792
blame glavset

>>63873300
Oss is a slang name for low iq, proto criminal and aggressive males. Basically the equivalent of an gopnik

>>63873449
I propose we build dams on the neva to return st pidorsburg to its natural state. A flooded swampland

Relocating the zegroids there is not preferable

>>63873325
>I'm Finnish
No you're not. Finland died when Otto-Wille Kuusinen, the last legitimate head of state, was forced to dissolve the Terijoki government. Modern "Finland" is a fake state, founded by drug-addled nazis, but its time will soon come to an end.

>>63863014
lmao, and in turn all the Russian cities in Europe would be glassed, no more ziggers.

>>63873478
poor quality troll, you're from lesser civilization if you think you fool a single person

>>63863914
>but with US paralyzed by the orange brain tumor
That's completely false, the United States Army is bringing veterans from Ukraine to teach them drone tactics.

>>63873478
Such weak bait, be better.

>>63863014
>Finland gets nuked
>everything is exactly the same

>>63872792
>Jannies please explain where it says in the rules one cannot post a frog on /k/ since you deleted it?
Not a jannie but this is an image board and posts should be on topic.
Posts about Pepe belong in >>>/co/ I guess. Maybe >>>/b/.
Not here anyway.

If you can't spend a minute finding a relevant image that enhances discussion of your topic then you probably don't have anything worth discussing anyway.

>>63873310
>Implying East Germans are better than West Germans
Lol, LMAO

Whats up with the shills?

>>63873567
In europe, every eastern part is more masculine, traditional and stronger.

>>63874590
>t. coping Ossi
East Germany is poorer, has worse living standards, higher alcoholism rates, more people not in emplyoment, more crime etc etc.
In regards to east germany
>Masculine
LMAO
>traditional
if by "tradition" you mean "mentally stuck in a schizophrenic mix of 1916, 1945 and 1965" sure, but that's not anything to be pround of
>stronger
(some of) the west still has to pay special taxes to help the east.

>>63863012 (OP)
Good. The Ottawa treaty, along with the Cluster Munitions Convention, are complete fascades of security that are rightfully being abandoned.
The diplomats who made these agreements were outright ignoring Military advisors, who warned them that a lack of these types of arms puts them at a disadvantage in a war scenario. Ukraine has proven these weapons are still effective, and any fool who thinks otherwise is inviting Russia to their doorstep.
Hopefully we can reverse the idiocy of pacifist politicians looking to score cheap peace points and enter back into the realm of rational state actors.

>>63865051
no it wasn't. the anti-landmine movement was fags crying about how random farmers would get blown up 20 years later from left behind mines in former warzones, it was all about pearl clutching just like that anon said. even clowns like princess diana were proponents for it at the time, you know since she was so knowledgeable about war.
just willingly destroy one of the most effective and cheap defensive weapons ever and agree to never use them again so karen and princess karen can feel good about themselves. and the literal second it becomes apparent that landmines are useful then all the grandstanding disappears.

How about just don't engage in grandstanding wankfests in the first place, theres a reason the US never agreed to the prohibition of mines.

>>63863014
It'd be extremely retarded, since they'd waste the land they intend to occupy while drawing exponentially more international condemnation for using nukes against a non-nuclear threat, driving every nation not already allied with them to NATO overnight, making any further aggression geopolitical suicide.
They have the physical capacity, but it'd set them back a century in terms of progress.

>>63878671
>the anti-landmine movement was fags crying about how random farmers would get blown up 20 years later from left behind mines in former warzones
It wasn't even "random farmers", it was random niggers and SEAmonkeys. In the case of niggers it was specifically because some subhuman warlord would deliberately lob mines in various populated areas, as terror weapons. In the case of SEAmonkeys, it was because they a) lacked the resources to remove all the mines left during the various stages of the Vietnam war (including incursions in Laos and Cambodia); b) they refused US aid to remove said mines; c) their own subhuman warlords used them as terror weapons against the population.

>>63874754
>Muh money

Proves my point.

>>63878739
Only proves that the east is an undesirable shithole that only easterners in denial about their sad existense (you) see anything worthwile in

>>63869173
Like the other anon said, Stalker was made by Ukrainians, while Escape from Tarkov was made by Russians. A warcrime that alone is enough to condemn all of Russia to burn.

>>63881413
Is metro Russian anymore? I heard the author is in exile

>>63866368
Unironically, 2 weeks comes from Republicans when they tried to steal the 2020 election. They just needed 2 weeks to procure, aka manufacture the proof with their audits and then they'd unleash to the Kraken to prove that trump actually won.

>>63881514
>unleash to the Kraken
God i've completely forgotten about that. How's Rudy and Mike doing these days anyway?

>>63881541
Rudy is in bankrupt and that Qanon lady lawyer lost her licence and in complete bankruptcy

>>63878614
The last points wont nevet happen without having the skin directly on the line

>>63874590
Then why is puzzia a gay sex haven

>>63864511
>They also threatened two of their allies (canada and denmark) with annexation of territory.
I'm still baffled as to why trump kept threatening to go to war against Canada right when they were having an election where the trump friendly conservatives were heading to a historic landslide, only for the liberals to win in a historic upset instead because trump was doing everything possible to piss off the country.

>>63866202
>1965
1912, excluding only Calvin Coolidge and parts of Reagan.

>>63863014
russia wouldnt do that because of their ancient pact with the Koreans.

>>63878614
>these weapons are still effective

yeah until the war is over then you have farmers hitting mines and UX for the next 50 years

>>63882563
This has literally never been an issue outside of third world shitholes. Most huwhite countries figured that if you plant a minefield, you should probably mark it on your fucking maps so your own troops know where they are and don't walk into them, and when the war ends and civilians start running around, you can dig them up so farmers and their kids don't get vaporized by them either. The mythical buried landmine that explodes after 20 years is just that; a myth. Unless you're dealing with third worlder scum who are too stupid to mark them and/or refuse to tell you where they buried them out of sadistic, malicious spite

>>63863012 (OP)
>we're going to make large stretches of our country uninhabitable to own the russians

Ugh, okay..

>>63871652
torpedo implies a navy

>>63868908
>hat's the one vice I don't credit him with.
lol. he's self admitted

>>63883046
What's the reddit frog got to do with that?

>>63871177
double dubs for shitskin obsession with Israel

>>63883046
>We are gonna unalive millions of russians to own the british parliment
based russians

>>63883046
The alternative is risking Russia making the entire country uninhabitable

>>63883046
>>63884011
It's far easier to remove mines than to undo russoforming

>>63871652
That's not how water works, dumbass

>>63863012 (OP)
>Soon the Russian border will be nothing but mines of all kinds
And bored conscripts being sent out to replace mines detonated by migrating wildlife, random-ass hikers who can't read a map (almost all tourists), and "accidental" crossings by migrants the russians dump in the woods and threaten to machinegun if they don't walk into Finland. How many mines do you think Finland can afford to replace?

>>63886907
A lot

>>63863012 (OP)
It would be a waste to mine their own land without any sign that Russia will attack them.

>>63863012 (OP)
Is that a bad thing?
Aside from decimating the bigger wild animals.

>>63863104
Not sure about Finland but here in Sweden they just removed the tripwire a few styles of mines, and re-designated them as "defensive charges" to be used with a clacker, or in the case of the larger TV-sized claymore style charges, labled them anti vehicle and anti helicopter charges.
Ofc anyone with an iq above 50 understood that if you take the tripwire meant for the tripflare/alert mines or even just a random piece of string that works just fine too.

Some classes were also held to make sure all soldiers understood that doing so would turn the charges into a landmine in definition, and it was therefore trained extensively so everyone knew exactly what NOT to do with them.

>>63886994
>so everyone knew exactly what NOT to do with them.
ahh, classic method of teaching.

>>63873339
>disbelief in god
Never had this been a bad thing

>>63874590
>every eastern part is more masculine
Not in East Germany it isn't. And no, being right wing voters doesn't count either, because in the case of East Germany they vote that way because they're all useless loser that can't hold a job and need someone to blame to cope instead of looking at the problem inside of them.

>>63882563
tbf that would be the case either way. Russia never was in the ottawa deal and they use anti-personel mines. Hell, they even spread those with artillery and helicopters, so absolutely nobody knows how many are there and where they are

>>63874590
AHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>63866708
based moderate

>>63866368

Two weeks is the longest timeframe russki brains can just barely comprehend for planning.

>>63883046

Nuclear holocaust is preferrable alternative to be living under ryssä occupation, fren.

>>63869570
>Katri's kulmunis
>jesus jugs
Every time they are freed you say,"JESUS!"

>>63874590
in Finland the east is a shithole. Savonians also often have a deep-seated inferiority complex about Western/Southern Finland. What's also interesting is that the people in the east look different from humans in the western and southern parts of country. They're somehow much rounder and uglier, but the women have massive tits.

>>63886994
Yeaah they definitely didn't teach me how to use claymores in victim-activated mode during my time in the FDF, no sir. (2012/1)

Then again, my posting had a pretty damn good reason for protecting the deployment area of my squad's gear so might have been a bit different for others.

>>63890676
We were extensively trained on what not to do with these charges and were often reminded about what certain operations are forbidden to do to them as the charges would turn into Ottawa-prohibited AP mines
t. 1/14 pioneer

>>63890852
IIRC our skapparis didn't even bother with the pretense shit, they barely even touched on the command-operated mode and just focused on how to tripwire them. This was in an AA unit though so they probably didn't give a fuck about pretending it was for something else. Don't think they even mentioned the treaty lmao.

>>63890893
>This was in an AA unit though so they probably didn't give a fuck about pretending it was for something else. Don't think they even mentioned the treaty lmao.
Yeah, it might have been a bit politically inconvenient to explain why the pioneers are getting trained to set up treaty-prohibited minefields