Let us discuss concealed carry guns
in b4 someone has one of those mini 1911's

I have decided to upgrade from my Ruger LCP 380.

I have to down to to,
Ruger LCP MAX
S&W bodyguard 2.0

Seecamp and P32 are pretty much the best?

>>63868166
>$600 for 6+1
>.32

>>63868102 (OP)
Everyone is gaga right now over the BG 2.0, but I don't know how well it works as a pocket gun with a usual striker-fired trigger action and a tiny nub of a safety. If I had to choose for pocket carry, I would take the LCP max, but it would be the BG 2.0 with a usual belt holster. But when it comes to really small guns, I prefer revolvers.

>>63868102 (OP)
Airweight j frame

Ergonomics on the BG are way better than the LCP.

Ruger is not good at making centerfire semiautomatic pistols. Their revolvers are good, as are their bolt action rifles, 22 rifles, and 22 target pistols, and the PC carbine I'll add. Their duty and concealed carry pistols have never compared well to the competition and they don't now.

>>63868251
A pocket gun is a "just in case" option for backup or special situations where you can't carry a real gun. It's job is to let you check the box "I am carrying a gun". I carry them condition 3 so I don't have to fucking worry about safety. I also think hollowpoints are ridiculous in 380 and 32.

>>63868102 (OP)
And LCP max or bodyguard 2.0 but in .32 acp would be kino. Beretta managed a good double stack mag .32 back in the 80s, surely these fags can manage a stack and a half mag today

>>63868690
.32ACP makes more sense. You're not getting "stopping power" from a pocket pistol, you're basically limited to central nervous system shots if you absolutely need instant incapacitation. 22LR would be sufficient if it fed reliably. 380 is a mistake, but unfortunately that is the most common caliber for otherwise well-designed modern pocket guns, so we're stuck with it.

>>63868251
>But when it comes to really small guns, I prefer revolvers.
This, the J-Frame is still peak smol EDC.

i love my lcpmax. slides into my slacks very nicely and i just put my wallet in the same pocket so people just think i got a big ol wallet.

>>63868166
nope. seecamp is cringe because it only feeds hollowpoints, which wont expand.

>>63870224
>>63868166
NAA guardian .32

the baby browning still hasn't been beat for size and reliability. theres really no reason to get anything between that and a glock 43

>>63868102 (OP)
Bodyguard 2.0. Try the ruger and the bodyguard out, I'm sure some scummy indoor range near you has both for rent they're incredibly common guns. The bodyguard is head and shoulders over the LCP. The LCP was never that great in the first place, the Kahr CW380 was superior in every way but people sperg about moonies so it didn't catch on as much.

>>63868251
>buying a micro revolver that isn't a 6 shot 32 H&R
NGMI

>>63869743
I've been thinking about getting an ankle gun for the office. The last thing I want is some deranged lunatic coming into the office and smoking my dumb-ass immediately because I cant get to the glock in my briefcase fast enough. Im also concerned that when I leave the office some faggot coworker will rummage through my shit and find it and report me. 3 years, so far so good. But it still worries me and carrying with business / business casual is limiting me to the ankle. Plus I'll feel like a detective. J-frame huh? I have big hands and feel like a j-frame is small, and there's no way id carry a semiauto due to the debris by your feet getting kicked up, last thing you want is for your gun to not feed in that situation. But hey, a J-Frame would be better than nothing.

>>63868102 (OP)
>actual practical
Define this. I carry a Glock 17 daily and it’s actually practical for me.

>>63868673
>condition 3
You are a dead man walking

>>63870395
if im pocket carrying im not carrying with a round in the chamber.

>>63870373
>in my briefcase

why the fuck do you have a briefcase lol its 2025.

>>63868673
>condition 3
God I hate Israelis

>>63870410
Get a double action revolver then. You are a dead man walking when you carry condition 3.

>>63870373
If you don't wear your suit pants too long and oversized it will print like hell and probably reveal itself at times. Ankle guns are a hollywood meme. Carry a shoulder rig or belly band under your dress shirt and if you detect a threat undo one button.

>>63870410
Big dumb. There's no logical reason for this retardation. If it's in a holster and not loose in your pocket and there's nothing else in the pocket (there should not be if you are pocket carrying) there is zero chance of it going off on its own. Pocket carry is literally safer than appendix carry. Even if the gun P320'd and went off in your pocket you are unlikely to take anything more than a grazing hit unless your pockets put it in line with your calf or foot.

>>63870433
>>63870410
this is rat-brain "i can never be too safe" thinking. youve let other people like yourself bully-scare you into thinking you will be knockout gamed by blacks or a bath salts assassin will teleport on top of you.

>>63870413
>why the fuck do you have a briefcase
Lots of reasons. It blends with my profession. I look more professional. Classy. Organizes everything I need. Rigid, so my candy doesnt melt or get crushed. I broke the seam and was able to pull out the liner and put a steel plate for hopefully enough protection to get me out of there. Lastly, I don't look like my fucking idiot coworkers walking around with a molle backpack in a 3-piece. If you think the briefcase is nuts? I took lessons for base jumping and have a tandum system and passeger harness stuffed into the dropped ceiling of my office. I work in a highrise on the 47th floor for a corporate consulting firm and learned a lot from 9/11. They ain't getting me unless they hit me dead on. No im not trolling, best $6500 ever spent because of the peace of mind it brings.

>>63870433
Good idea thanks Anon.

>>63870445
I have been in a self defense situation where I had to draw and there never would’ve been time to chamber. Whole interaction was literally two seconds. Also there are a shit ton of videos online of people fucking up carrying condition 3 and dying.

holy based

>>63870373
You're going about it the wrong way

>>63868102 (OP)
>the 32 in your pocket is better than the 45 in your glovebox!

>>63870555
The .32 in your pocket is better than the .45 on your hip holster

>>63870468
>I took lessons for base jumping and have a tandum system and passeger harness stuffed into the dropped ceiling of my office.
I fully approve.

>>63870468
>Rigid, so my candy doesnt melt or get crushed
This cracked me up for some reason

Im loving the bg 2.0 so far but I do want to pick up a revolver at some point

>>63868212
.32 is based.

>>63870468
>>63870788
Nothing worse than pulling out your tactical KitKat and realizing your crust is bust.

>>63870277
passed up a PSA-25 renaissance on gunbroker the other day. Would've gone great with my shitty laser engraved LCP

>>63868690
>>63869647
In my perfect world where full auto is decriminalized, there is a resurgence in interest for .25 and .32 acp due to their use in machine pistols the size of a baby browning.

>>63870373
>>63870468
You strike me as incredibly based and I want to sign up for your newsletter. Carrying in a three piece is weird in that you have a vest and jacket to work with, but a good fit on the suit takes away the bulkiness you need to break up outlines. Linen/cotton pants are so soft that they print easily too.

My brother-in-law wore a 3 piece suit to work every day for a year before he got his CCW simply so that no one would find it odd that he had a jacket and vest. Now he carries a full size every day. But I think you're right to go for an ankle revolver if you really need something on you.

>you should get a bulldog though
>because its special

>>63870468
Kino post. You inspire me anon.

>>63870468
You could get one of these bad boys, or a .32 ppk for the sleek professionalism look but its nowhere near as small and infinitely concealable as the NAA

>>63870373
>>63870373
I keep my gun on a magnet beneath my desk. Faster draw than any on-body carry while seated and more comfortable to boot.
Admittedly I'm only able to get away with that because I've got my own office and most people don't have swipe access.

If you're in a cubicle or an office with an open door, could you leave the gun in a desk drawer? Either in a quick access pistol safe or just underneath a magazine/folder. Faster access than in your briefcase, less likely to print than an ankle holster and you can simply lock the drawer or move the gun to your briefcase if you're going to be out for while.

>>63870373
Ankle rigs tend to work better with boots, which keeps the rig from sliding down your ankle and conceals it better. I edc either the 36 I posted or a 637 to work in a pocket holster and nobody has ever even noticed it was there.

>>63870479
Let them die anon, its like telling people about standing desks being better for you - they don't wanna hear about it

I routinely carry a PPK/S on a clipdraw. It holds up well in gym shorts with the waistband tight tightly, and it's perfectly comfortable and stable in pants with a belt. The DA/SA allows me to carry with a round in the chamber with the option to have the safety on or off. I practice drawing and disengaging the safety but generally if I'm in my car safety on, if I'm in the store safety off

>>63871511
If I don't feel like carrying the PPK/S I'll also carry the LCP II in 22lr. While it is rimfire, shooting CCI MiniMag 40gr CPRN has been 100% reliable. Penetration is more important than expansion in a pocket gun and the 40gr have proven reliable. The LCP has a glock-style trigger so it is somewhat to carry with the safety disengaged, but generally I carry with the safety on and practice flicking it off on drawing

>>63871519
I recently picked up an Iver Johnson TP-22 as happy medium between the two. It's a double-action pistol with a manual safety. Seven rounds of .22lr isn't much, but pistols like these are designed to be used within spitting distance. The TP-22 is made of zamak, but reports on boomer forums indicate that with the right ammo (typically CCI MiniMags) they are reliable and accurate. At one point NJ police were issued them as backup guns.

>>63870479
If I don't have time to rack the slide that suggests the enemy is right on top of me. That means I'm using a knife or bare hands. The only reason I carry a gun at all is in case the other guy also has a gun, meaning I can't close the distance. Otherwise there is no roided up thug or shitbull I couldn't disembowel with my knives.

>>63871734
..I'm just going to leave you to it. Best of luck with all that.
Can't wait to see the security camera footage of you being insta-yeeted by some nigger.

>>63870388

>>63870479
Condition 3 retards will argue in circles trying to justify it but are too stupid to comprehend it. In their fantasy they are able to draw and chamber a round in 1/3 of a second. We need fewer dumb people anon, quit trying to convince them otherwise. Let these morons go extinct

>>63871734
You're an idiot and I hope you dont become a statistic because it makes the rest of us look bad.

>>63871734
>only reason I carry a gun at all is in case the other guy also has a gun
so why are you carrying it with an empty chamber? lmao

>>63872341
You have to be better than your opponents, so you hinder yourself to make yourself have to be EVEN better

>>63871750
interesting how niggers are both completely incompetent shooters but are ALSO able to instantly someone if they are carrying a gun in a way YOU personally do not like.

>>63868102 (OP)
I typically carry small guns in 32 caliber.

My pocket only gun is a p32. I don't really like pocket carry but it's necessary at times. It's crazy small and lightweight, far easier to shoot than similar 380 pocket pistols.

My AIWB and sometimes pocket gun, depending on the situation is a 32 J frame with a titanium cylinder. I use Hamre forge hook grips and a arcade nylon stretch belt because I don't need the rigidity of a tactical belt with a 13oz gun. I carry it without a holster most times but I'll use a Harrys icon 2.0 holster when I desire the extra stability. AIWB is my preferred way to carry and having multiple options for comfort is very appealing.

G26 if I'm going somewhere sketchy. Typically requires a slightly sturdier belt but I still use a belt with some flex, typically the groove life belt.

I've been through many guns through the years and these three cover all my bases and are extremely comfortable to carry while still offering reasonable firepower.

>>63868659
RXM is actually really good though. Granted, they tweaked an existing design but I found that after years of shooting Glocks, the rxm does t the e Glock thing better. Can't wait for the g26/g45 grip modules.

>>63868673
Bro, DA guns are very safe in condition 1.

>>63870373
Can't beat the j frame for a pocket gun if it's not too large. Ankle carry really is wack but not totally off base if you're seated all day. Get a 32 J frame with the titanium cylinder and use the Hamre forge grips,l as they fill my xl sized hands perfectly.

>>63868102 (OP)
I pocket carry this at work daily, if I'm not in scrubs an lcr or p238.

>>63868102 (OP)
Consider the Shield Plus or if capacity isn't that big a deal for you Kahr PM9

>>63869743
Based and Hickok pilled

>>63870373
>Gecko45 is still around
I love this place

>>63872446
I just want an ultra small yet capable semi-auto. I think the P32 is the only one that fits the bill.
P3AT is good too, but hard to find in good condition when a new P32 is the same price.
I have many pistols, smallest is a Kahr PM9, but I want something smaller.

>>63872463
I was gonna recommend a LCR in .327FedMag but this is rapidly becoming a mallninja thread
>>63870788
>>63870814
topkek

>>63872566
I wish they made more 632-2's in this recent run of .32 s&w revolvers

>>63872548
I've tried most of them, the p32 is heads and shoulders above the competition. It's insanely small and lightweight, but unlike the p3at, it's actually fun to shoot. I still think a 32 J frame is much better because it's far more versatile, but the p32 fits my pockets much better.

>>63872566
Would the 7 shot 22 magnums be any good? I acquired one but while penetration on gel is within specs according to ballistics, I feel like it's limp for self defense.

>>63872566
I wanted a 32 revolver for so long and the LCR 327 was really the only viable option. I passed on it because I thought it was too heavy for the role at 17oz

Now we have much better options. I have a few 32 J frames now and they are 13oz. Ruger did release a 32 h&r mag version of the LCR recently so I would recommend that over the 327 model as it is 13.5oz.

Of course I would rather have a g17 on me but I don't care to schlep around that much weight everyday. The 32 snub is the ultimate lightweight carry piece.

>>63872591
I know how you feel. I got the 22lr j frame and although it tends to penetrate enough on gel, I always felt like it would just bounce off bone irl. I had it on me when I was confronted by a beefy Rottweiler and yeah, it didn't feel great. Most likely it would have been enough, but it's a tiny little bullet...

The 22 magnum out of that short barrel isn't all that more potent than 22lr. I would use the CCI TMJ and I reckon it should penetrate, but the things feels almost like a toy. I still think it's a great choice, but a 32 J frame w/ titanium cylinder is pretty close in weight and I feel much better with 6 shots of hardcast 32.

>>63872586
Thanks Anon. I'll pick up a P32 asap.

>>63872650
It gets a good couple hundred fps over 22lr, it's not an unnoticeable difference. It's akin to pushing .22lr through a 6 inch barrel. If derringers weren't garbage I'd sooner get a 2 shot 44 mag or something and keep 2 rounds in my pocket.

>>63872686
Again, it's a viable option, but relying on a rimfire round for self defense just feels of.

The biggest problem is the trigger pull on the rimfire snubs. The trigger is heavier than a standard j frame trigger because it needs to be to reliability ignore the primer on rimfire guns. So you've got a crazy light snub with a crazy heavy trigger. Mine has smoothed out but it is the hardest gun for me to shoot actually. The big dot sight isn't all that great either.

The 432/632 UCti has real sights and is maybe 2-3 oz heavier. I basically never carry my 43c now that I have a 32 snub.

I would still definitely pick up a 22mag j frame if I found one cheap enough.

>>63872667
You'll enjoy it. It's weird looking and has terrible sights but it's very effective. This guy did a fun test on a p32.

https://pistol-training.com/p32-tuesday-13/

>>63870445
ok faggot that was uncalled for. Go suck some dick and calm down

>>63872319
If you can't draw and fire, then you need to change something.

>>63872528
One day I'm gonna get one of those and put it on a detachable chain that can go around my neck, among many other options.

>>63871519
LCP II 22lr is a great piece
Incredibly accurate for its size, and less recoil than a TX22 amazingly
It has to be because of that delayed slope on top of the breech, even though it's still a blowback

The Security 380 is basically just a big LCP II internally that's pretty easy to conceal too and has like zero recoil

Pocket gun haver here? The little pocket revolvers are all too heavy and fat to be true pocket guns. The bodyguard 2 is preddy cool, idk about the lcp max but if you wanna go smaller might as well get the small LCP

>>63872923
not even a j frame? :(

>>63872948
I like revolvers, I got an LCR in 38/357 after trying them pocket revolvers out, realistically if size really matters and you wanna stay on the down low then avoid revolvers because they're preddy big. If you wanna carry a pocket revolver then carry whichever feels best or tickles your fancy

>>63871519
>>63872912
P32 is way better. Lighter, smaller, more potent round, more reliable. The safety on a lcp2 is nigh on unusable whereas the p32 doesn't need one.

>>63872960
Agreed. Some people can manage it, and some people carry a g26 innapocket, but the p32/NAA mini revolvers work better for me.

>>63868102 (OP)
I conceal carry a CZ P-01 every single time I leave my home. Why pretend you can't carry a 2011?

For you 22 LR users out there. I found this guy who makes high velocity (& subsonic), solid copper, flat nose rounds in 22 LR. The solid copper body is machined. These are made for extreme long range 22 LR shooting, but the 32 grain ones will chamber in any normal 22 LR firearm. The bullets are manufactured by Cutting Edge Bullets, just fyi.

https://www.ariaballisticengineering.org/product/22-long-rifle-elr

For those of you who understand, there's nothing out there like this on the market for 22 LR. Totally unique. The solid copper body is harder than lead, so it won't deform on impact (it'll punch through) and the flat nose improves penetration as well. Plenty of testing has been done on both solid copper bullets and flat nose bullets. The results speak for themselves. Plenty of solid copper rounds have popped up for predator defense in other calibers, but not 22 LR (until now). In all the research I have done, within the context of little rounds like 22 LR, you either have reliable penetration or expansion, usually not both. These rounds were not designed for self defense, but they happen to be uniquely suited for it and since they're essentially match grade rounds, they're kind of a cool find. I got some and have been quite pleased with them. Not here to get into it with fudds who can't fathom 22 LR as a self defense round or using anything other than heavy, hard cast lead. Just passing on a good find.

>>63872973
Nah, I'm good

>>63872341
Because with a pocket gun you are not carrying a safety system that has been torture tested for decades and you're constantly sweeping yourself and other people.

>>63872923
>>63868102 (OP)
I prefer the OG Bodyguard. DA trigger pull is a good thing on a pocket pistol imo. Trigger "safeties" do not interest me.

>>63872923
>The little pocket revolvers are all too heavy and fat to be true pocket guns.
Not the NAA 22's.

>>63873097
>dollar-a-round for .22LR
>bullet is too big to fit in anything except boltguns and special revolvers

>>63873097
I'm not sure what counts as extreme long range for a .22 LR, but ordinary match grade 40 gr LRN ammo does just fine at 400 yards, so I question the value of hand-turned copper projectiles in this case.

>inb4 mini 1911
I like it.

>>63871867

Counterpoint: I despise the Ruger LCP

>>63873137
>doesn't read the post or the website
The 32 grain are normal sized 22 LR and will chamber through any normal 22 LR firearm, even semiautos. If they're too expensive for you, then don't buy any, mate. Simple shit.

>>63873122
>you're constantly sweeping yourself and other people
you shouldn't be, are you not using a pocket holster?

>>63873134
Kek, true pocket revolver
>>63873126
The bodyguard 2 has a decent manual safety on, hard to push up but doable with 1 finger to disengage, no way it's going off by itself. I'd suggest a pocket holster anyway though
>>63873014
I think it Also strongly depends on how you dress. Are you wearing baggy and or thicker pantaloons/shorts or more fitted and/or thinner ones. In something like basketball shorts, thin ones with the normal baggy fit, a revolver would be huge while the bodyguard and other semiautos are fine

>>63873139
>I question the value of hand-turned copper projectiles in this case.
If you don't want or see the value in the hard, solid copper body with a flat nose shape, then they're obviously not for you. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you.

>>63868102 (OP)
i carry a full sized pistol
>but muh printing
shut the fuck up, nobody cares if they see a weird bulge in your shirt, ive never stared intently at what someone was wearing, and even if someone noticed you had a gun, what the hell are they gonna do about it, it doesnt matter
you're far more likely to need the more capable pistol than one thats smaller

>>63873157
>mate

cringe

>>63873178
>cringe
Explain.

>>63873143
>not buying a Detonics

>>63873233
That's like 2 micro 9s worth of money though

>>63868102 (OP)
Bodyguard 2.0 claps the MAX. Do not buy the max. You would be retarded to buy the max. The bodyguard is so superior to the max it's laughable, this isn't like comparing a G19 to *insert other notaglock here*, it's more like comparing a subcompact to a G19 that magically conceals like the subcompact. The shoot ability of the bodyguard is that much better, no I am not exaggerating.
>T. Lcp max owner
>Also inb4 people who think neither one is pocket carry sized, not gonna bother checking the thread

>>63873169
If you're talking about ballistic performance, you have reading comprehension issues. If you're talking about terminal effect against targets bigger than a raccoon, .22 LR is not the right choice.

>>63873246
yeah but it'll actually work

>>63873274
My micro 9 just works.

>>63873279
Does your micro peen work?

>>63873269
What are you on? You seem stupid, so I'm going to help you. Try to articulate a coherent statement and argument that's relevant to the context of my post and this thread. Do you object to the following statements?
>solid copper penetrates better than soft lead
>flat nose penetrates better than round nose
>22 LR favors penetration over expansion in a self defense scenario
If so, then please explain. If your explanation hinges on the idea that "22 LR is not a self defense round", then kindly fuck off. Plenty of people in this thread have brought up the fact that they use 22 LR firearms for concealed carry already, so I don't want to hear about it.

>>63873163
If I'm carrying a pocket gun then I'm not worried enough about violence to need a round in the chamber. The point is to merely have a firearm of some kind available, it doesn't need to minmaxed for maximum speed and performance. A condition 3 pocket gun is way better than having to go get a gun out of your fucking car.

I'm a smaller guy so I got a Tomcat. 8+1 .32 ACP cause i have an extended magazine. I don't take it out to shoot much because .32 is expensive but it's a reliable gun all the same. You can't go wrong with Beretta plus I justify the small capacity with that fact that most gunfights only have like 3 shots being fired.

>>63873173
I just prefer that Karen's don't freak out and waste my time and the police's time.

>>63873173
What about if you work somewhere where carrying is forbidden? You're constantly sharing spaces with people who have all the time in the world to study your physique. I have carried full size guns in these situations, but it sucks ass and ruins your life.

>>63868673
Small frame snubbies are great for pocket carry. A Ruger SP101 is bit chunkier than a S&W J Frame, but you don't notice the extra weight after a while, and weight makes it pleasant to shoot sll day with .38 Special and perfectly controllable for follow up shots with .357 Magnum. Video is Paul Harrell's 9mm vs
357 Magnum, which includes .357 Magnum from snub nosed SP101.

https://youtu.be/CD2t_qG9dls?si=WVnS0kibbfusCVXK

>>63873097
Not worth the price
Stingers and Punch penetrate fine out of pocket pistols

I'm all about all copper bullets, and wish it was the industry standard. And when I can, flat nose bullets(like Punch) for that sweet localized crush.
But these just aren't worth it when the budget options get the job done.

>>63874085
>Twice the weight of bodyguard 2.0, half the capacity

No fuckin thanksarooni

>>63870313
I kind of want to get a S&W 432. I like the idea of a six shot .32 Mag K frame. o suppose I could get a Ruger LCR on .327 Mag and load it with .32 Magnum.

>>63873469
enjoy your cracked frame and 300 round lifetime
>I like the idea of the .32 Beretta but I've heard the old ones aren't reliable and the 30x isn't much better
>>63873097
those look neat but I doubt that'd cycle in something like the LCP II
>>63873173
>this retard doesn't notice other people noticing his bulges
>>63873268
It looks like a neat gun for sure. I've fingerfucked them at the LGS and have a work buddy who owns and enjoys one

>>63873097
>high velocity
>and subsonic
These are mutually exclusive.

>>63872412
You carry your gun however you want. I just reserve the right to call you a fucking retard for it.

>>63868102 (OP)

>>63876676
If I ever actually see a Raven for sale at a LGS I will pick it up.

>>63874662
nice reading comprehension, dumbass

>>63868102 (OP)
I've got the following pistols
>glock 49 with RMR and weapon light
>FN 509
>Ruger LCP
I'll sometimes concealed carry the 509 or LCP, but I'm thinking about trading both for a glock 26. The 509 is too small to conceal in street clothes and I never really shoot it at the range because the glock 49 has all my gadgets. The LCP doesn't pack much of a punch with only 6+1 rounds of .380. I think the glock 26 would remedy both those issues while downsizing my collection a bit. Any thoughts?

>>63876998
>509 is too small
I'm retarded, meant too big

>>63874023
this guy fuckin gets it some of you mutts are so stupid and arrogant you need to be put down
g19 is already a full size pistol. why not carry something you can actually forget you have until you need

>>63876890
You wont regret it.
I have 2 and they run better than my surplus Llama pistols or my surplus beretta 81 in 32acp. Spare parts are (or were easy to get IDK how long that will last since phoenix arms just went under) easy to get. Fun throw around guns and good to learn basic gun smithing on.

>>63876998
Fair size difference between an LCP and G26, especially width. I'd go for a P365, Hellcat or Ruger Max-9 if you want more capacity than the LCP.

>>63876998
I have a 365 and a G27 w/9mm bbl.I bought the 365 first.
I prefer it over the 27. But I have a G19 so I like the mag compatibility along with have being able to shoot multiple calibers(357sig, 40, 9mm) from the 27.
I'm also autistic and just keep buying funs without thinking too much.
If I were you and wanted to pare down my collection, I'd keep one larger size pistol(the 509 or G49) whichever you like more and get a 365/Hellcat/Shield 2.0/whatever else.

>>63873097
Neat find anon

>>63874116
I shot and finger fucked a bunch of pocket revolvers including the S&W 432/632 642 and Ruger LCRs and ended up with the 642 Performance Center with a TALO style of grip. It wasn't cheap (it was actually the most expensive revolver in my finals list) but the action is so smooth and the grip makes a big difference especially when shooting the +p.
Plus it's a couple of oz lighter than the 432. In fact, when its fully loaded it's less than 1/2 oz heavier than an empty 432.

>>63874116
I got a 432. Great snubbie but I upgraded to the titanium cylinder model and it's my favorite. If a couple of ounces won't make a difference to you then get the 432, but if you like extra lightweight guns you should consider the ti model. I'll never go back to 38.

>>63876998
Sell the 509 and LCP, get a g26 and a p32.

Nobody wants to defense themselves with a mouse gun but there are times when one is needed. The g26 is a no brainer, all your training on the 49 will translate to the 26.
G49 winter carry, g26 summer carry, p32 when those won't work or even around the house. Heck, the p32 is a great choice to keep innapocket while carrying the g26.

>>63879178
432UCti is 13oz. Those VZ grips that come with the 432 are heavy. The 432/632UCti comes with lighter grips and a titanium cylinder, making it 13oz .

Bonus points for being fun to shoot unlike an Uber lightweight 38. 32 long is so much fun.

>>63873119
Glad it works for you, anon. I am a 32 fiend so I must schill.

>>63870788
I would like to point out he mentioned the candy before the base jumping lesson. Homie is more concerned about his snacks than his own life. I can respect that.

>>63879382
>432UCti is 13oz
And $800+ for a micro revolver that requires difficult to find and expensive ammo.
I'll keep my LCR in 38+p

>>63879178
>>63879382
The TALO grips are very heavy. I'm willing to bet that, sans any grips, a fully loaded 642 is still less than a fully loaded titanium 432.
Regardless, I did not like the performance of the 32 H&R. Plus, even tough I'm not a cheapskate, I just didn't want another caliber. I have lots that shoot 38

I can slip my lcp max anywhere and it barely takes up any space, love it. Underwood Xtreme Defender pretty much solved any concern I had over defensive .380

>>63868102 (OP)
Personally I'm still rocking the lcp2. I can't justify replacing it. If I didn't already own it, I'd probably get the bg2, but it just feels like a waste of money when what I have is perfectly good.
>More rounds
Thicker and heavier, and if that was a concern, I'd be carrying a 9mm anyway.
Hell, if I lost it for some reason and had to replace it I might even go with a revolver, but I simply can't get over the fact I already own this.
>Sell it
It's worth more to me than anyone would pay for it realistically.

>>63879580
Thick material + baggy pants you can probably shove a Glock 19 in there and nobody would notice

>>63879146
Thanks, anon.

>>63874023
It's true. Out of sight, out of mind. Nobody wants to be constantly reminded you're packing heat that can end them ten times over. It has become a huge power differential in mundane society. Not only that, there is always the fear of collateral damage from a ND. People are fucking stupid and sometimes guns go off. So, yeah. The smaller, the better.

>>63879457
I had a 38 LCR as my first snubbie. Great choice but I hated shooting it because the recoil is pretty obnoxious, and 5 rounds just never felt right. Carried it for many years before switching to a g42, then a 22lr snub then finally a 32 snub.

My local shop carries 32 long and its not much more than 38. I don't need 1,000s of rounds stashed for my snubbies anyway.

The 32UC has night sights too, which is a fantastic addition. All in all it's a much better snubbie and totally worth the extra money. I got pretty lucky and found one for $699. It's my favorite carry gun by a wide margin and after 15yrs of trying different guns, I think this is the best choice available for a lightweight and versatile EDC, especially with the Hamre forge hook grips. They make them for the LCR, you should check them out.

>>63879862
Wish they had the 632 in a stainless version .327 mag, sort of like the 640 is to the 642

>>63879484
Hard to beat 13oz with grips. I'm sure they would be very close, the ti cylinder is a 2oz weight savings from what I remember.

To each their own. I think the performance is a wash, too. Just get a good hardcast round for either.

I like to enjoy shooting my guns and the lightweight 38s were simply not enjoyable. Plus, I get to say that I carry a six shooter, which sounds much better than a 5 shot. It's cool that 38 has a nice history and whatnot, but the 32 is just far more practical for these little snubs, and since I have a 22lr snub as well, I can practice with that if ammo becomes scarce.

>>63879894
I am hoping that Smith sees the value in 32 and makes a stainless J frame 327 and a k frame 327. I'd probably skip the J and go for the K personally.

>>63879709
You absolutely can. This is a security 9 in the shorts version of same. It's the Duluth trading company cargo pants. I suspect this is why Paul was always wearing them. It's the first picture I found on my phone. You guys know what an lcp2 looks like.

>>63874086
>But these just aren't worth it when the budget options get the job done.
Meh. I think it is generally accepted that typical 22 LR ammo on the market is good enough for most use cases, but falls off very quickly when a situation deviates from standard. Like if a person is packing plenty of body fat, is wearing heavy clothing, or is just a fucking tank for some reason. I would love to see someone put these through a ballistic test. Plus, 22 LR is pretty fragile as ammo goes. There's a reason it is not considered a serious round and I think a lot of it has to do with how easily they fall apart. You can't even rechamber a soft lead 22 LR without putting depressions in the bullet, which can cause malfunctions in the future. These solid copper rounds are not like that at all. They maintain their form and can be handled and rechambered, no problem. Really nice ammo. Doesn't feel like a 22 LR. Stingers or other high velocity rounds are quite similar, so you can practice with them and just reserve the 32 grain solid coppers for carry.

And since I'm going through old photos of concealed carry, here's a CZ p10s in a sporran.

>>63879992
>excuse me, sir. Pls just let me unzipper my belt purse before you rape me in my skirt

>>63880016
It's that or a thigh holster. I could have gotten a jacket and shoulder holster but I didn't want to invest in highland wear any further.

>>63868102 (OP)
DO NOT get the LCP. It is too small for a man's hands and has too many compromised to make it the size it is. Get the Bodyguard 2.0, it's the smallest pistol that has all the normal pistol features we're used to

>>63879895
NTA but 6 rounds of 32 adds ~ 2.5oz

>>63880244
I appreciate the data. I figured it would be close to that. 632UCti is 15.5oz. loaded. I imagine 5 rounds of .38 weighs 2-2.5 oz as well, and a base 642 weighs 14.2oz empty, where an LCR is 13.5oz empty. All of them are close. I think you can buy aftermarket titanium cylinders for the 38 S&W snubs, which is neat. Pretty much hovering around just under a pound if you desire a center-fire snubbie.

The 22lr model snub 43c is 12.3oz loaded with 8 22lrs. A p32 is 9.6oz loaded with 8 rounds of 32 and an LCP22 is 12.3oz loaded with 10 22lr.

Hard to beat a 632/p32 combo. I haven't tried firing 32acp from my 32 snubs, but they do fit in the chambers, so it would be cool if I could use that in a pinch. I prefer to have the 632uc on me as much as possible but sometimes the p32 innapocket is the best option.

>>63880340
unrelated, but in case anyone is wondering I weighed my bodyguard 2.0 at 15.07 oz loaded with 10 380 in the flush fit magazine

>>63880367
What ammo?

>>63880367
Totally related. There are so many good sub 16oz carry guns to choose from depending on what you need. Top picks..

P32 for ultimate pocket carry. Can't be carried on the belt because it's so small and a good holster does not exist and bulks up the package, defeating the purpose of the p32 design. Sights are abysmal. Uber lightweight, easy pocket draw. Safe DA trigger, 8 rounds of 32 fury. Don't bother with hollow point ammo. 72gr FMJ.

632UCti for belt mostly and some pocket if your are big enough/wear large pants. Can be carried AIWB with no holster if using Hamre forge hook grips and will fit a good kydex holster too. Most versatile choice. Slower to shoot than the other two choices, way too fat if using kydex holster and traditional thick gun belt, which isn't needed. 6 rounds, will fire no matter how bad you grip it, can fire from jacket pocket, very easy to draw.

Bodyguard 2.0 for max firepower, great holster gun, doable for pocket with large pockets but the shape makes it hard to draw and the short trigger is kinda sketchy. Needs a perfect grip to function and ammo should be tested before carrying. Firepower to weight ratio is unmatched. 10-12 round mags and very fast shooting.

I prefer the 632 because I don't need a holster or a decent belt. Harder to shoot than a bodyguard and way less rounds, but I'm Ok with that for the comfort, versatility, ease of draw and safety of the snub. Some might prefer the extra 4-6 rounds with a faster reload, cheaper and more available ammunition that the BG2.0 offers. Comes down to preference.

>>63880568
>Can't be carried on the belt
What about the belt clip for it, mexican carry style?

>>63880442
95gr FMJ
>>63880568
Just mean I am not the anon you've been talking to. But yeah different strokes and all that. I'm pretty new to concealed carry and wanted to start with something "easy". 380 is about the smallest round I was considering. lot of debate in that area, not that I have too strong of an opinion. 380 has similar energy to 38 long colt funnily enough so figured it would be enough for me

>>63879457
>And $800+ for a micro revolver that requires difficult to find and expensive ammo.
My LGS in rural hillbilly Kentucky has .32 Long and .32 H&R ammo lmao, and the ammo is readily available online from sellers like SGAmmo or High Desert lmao

You just sound like some boomer who's resistant to things that could be better just because you've been doing something for so long

>>63880773
>expensive ammo.
whats the cost per 50rd box? Id seriously like to know
>>63880773
>boomer
I really wish me gen would quit using this for ideas they dont like. its lazy af

>>63880773
>>63880822
>32 h&r

SGAmmo has only 3 types in 5 different count boxes of name brand. None are 50rd
20rd @ $25.95 = $1.30 ea plus shipping
25rd @ $30.95 = $1.24 ea plus shipping
High Desert has only their house brand
50rd @ $42.00 is the cheapest = 84c ea plus shipping
No idea shipping costs on any of those.

Cheapest 50rd 38spl at LGS is name brand @ $22.99 = 46c ea no shipping charge
The best buy is name brand 250rd @ $109.97 = 44c ea no shipping charge
There are times 38 is cheaper than that.
They have no 32 H&R in stock.

>>63881101
Ammoseek has cheapest .32 h&r at .80 cents per round, .327 mag at .60 cents per round and .32 s&w at .43 cents per round

I gave my PPK .380 to my wife because she likes it and I replaced it with a G43. That's my summer carry, I roll P01 during the fall/winter

>>63880588
I've tried it. The clip has utility but the gun is so flat and almost none of the grip is exposed, making it almost impossible to get a good, clean draw even in the best of conditions. I tried the clip on my snubs also and they didn't work all that great either, but much better than the p32. The Hamre forge grips are the only one that works well. The draw isn't perfect like it is with a proper AIWB holster, but it's consistent and intuitive.

Revolverfags love arguing about costs of ammo, meanwhile 9mmchads are paying $10 or more less for ammo

9mm is king, losers, enjoy paying more to shoot your dumbass wheelguns

>>63881101
Then shoot 32 S&W long, it's basically the same price as .38. You can even buy hardcast 32 long for a defensive round to match your training rounds. Problem solved.

I wonder what the average yearly round count is for a 642 or LCR 38 owner anyway? I hated shooting my air weight 38 so it's not like the availability is 38 mattered that much. The fun factor alone just shooting 32 long makes the 32 snubbie worth it.

>>63881268
woaoh hardcast! those do like 10% more damage!

>>63881268
>cant handle 38
You are like little baby

>>63881130
>Ammoseek has cheapest .32 h&r at .80 cents per round, .327 mag at .60 cents per round and .32 s&w at .43 cents per round
>250 count
>plus $18.50 shipping

You 32 fags will never learn

>>63881268
I shoot between 1000 and 1500 rounds through my .38 LCR every year.

>>63868102 (OP)
Mini 1911 mentioned? Even though it’s reliable depending on magazine the lack of the beaver tail and grip safety make me uncomfortable to carry it. The lack of a beaver tail makes getting a good grip on it from the holster hard, it’s not bad to shoot at all if you get a good grip on it. A bad grip gives you slide and hammer bite which will hurt

>>63881293
Yeah, fuck people who might be old, disabled, have hand strength issues, or otherwise can't handle a lot of recoil! They should just quit owning guns, those weaklings!

>>63870468
>I took lessons for base jumping and have a tandum system and passeger harness stuffed into the dropped ceiling of my office. I work in a highrise on the 47th floor for a corporate consulting firm and learned a lot from 9/11. They ain't getting me unless they hit me dead on.
I reall fucking hope you are not pulling my leg about that because this sounds based af. A bit unhinged but still based.

>>63881278
I'd carry hardcast if it were .38, too.

>>63881293
One more round, too. Win-win.

>>63881319
Still worth it for the extra round and enjoyable range sessions. Good idea to have a 22 trainer for either 38 or 32 if you're overly worried about ammo cost.

>>6388132
Nice, anon

>>63868102 (OP)
I actually CC my Taurus 856. Practical? Don't know, haven't needed to use it.

>>63883421
>Taurus
Fuck you poorfag, buy a real revolver

>>63868673
Sounds like you're not competent with a small handgun. Buy more ammo and practice. If you can't consistently hit a silhouette at 20 yards with a pocket gun you're not practicing enough.

>>63870468
Someone draw anon parachuting down like a PUBG character

>>63879178
I used to have one of these. Shit and fartin fucked up the crown and the sights weren’t aligned but it was indeed very smooth. I carry a p32 now

>LCP MAX / bodyguard 2.0
These are tiny, OP
get one of picrel


>>63874116
>S&W 432
also good

>>63870546
kek

>>63873097
nice but don't think this is going to operate in small semiautos

>>63879580

Here I was about to ask why these Ruger pistols with the god-awful DAO triggers were still on the market, and anon post a pic of one that appears to show one stuffed in a pocket without a holster.

Maybe a mile long, heavy trigger pull is a good option.

Ruger makes essentially the same guns with a striker fire system, which is a much better trigger pull that's perfectly safe assuming you're not a degenerate and use a holster.

>>63884542
>Dao
It's not. It's effectively single action.
>Without a holster
The safety isn't positivr enough for that. I had used it that way because I was going canoeing and I didn't want to risk submerging and possibly losing a more expensive gun. It did end up going in the water, so that was better. In a tight pocket like that the safety can come off so that doesn't work.
>Pocket without a holster is degenerate
Not if the safety is reliable, which in this case it turned out not to be. But there's been documented cases of single action guns going off in holsters, most likely from shirts being caught up on them reholstering. I'm not just talking about the p320, this is a separate and known albeit uncommon and preventable issue.
The lcp2 has a pocket holster that comes with it.
This is what I usually use. I tried pic related with another gun, but the holster is too grabby and comes out with the gun more often then not.
>Mile long heavy trigger pull
That's the original bodyguard, not Ruger. I've never tried the original lcp, but it's not double action.
I looked into a double action pocket gun with a safety for pocket carry without a holster but didn't find anything small enough in current production.
I got tired of messing with it and just kept my lcp2 since it works.
As for capacity, the only time I used it I only need zero rounds. I told a homeless guy to get the fuck away from me and shooting him wasn't necessary. The sight of it was enough to get him to walk away.
I hope this clears things up.

>>63868102 (OP)
I carried a Glock 42 for a long time in a Vedder pocket locker with a Pearce +1 grip extension, it was surprisingly nice. 8 rounds of .380 Speer Gold Dot and it weighed a lot less than the 43.

>>63884621

>DAO gun is effectively single action

> I keep dropping my gun because I pocket carry

> I think the $3 nylon sleeve that comes in the box is a holster

> brandishing guns at hobos for mouthing off.

Buy Ruger stock anons, idiots like this are out there and they have money to spend.

>>63868102 (OP)
get a dual stack smith and wesson in .30supercarry. Mine was an upgrade on my old .380 in every way.

>>63884650
>Dropping
The gun went in the water because I went in the water
>Pocket holster is pocket holster
Yes. You're retarded to claim it's not.
>Brandishing for mouthing off
Never heard of the 21' rule? Never seen someone stabbed? Maybe leave the basement sometime.
>Ruger security 9 and lcp2 are dao
No guns faggot, do you even know what that means?
Double action would mean that it's capable of restrike, it's not. It's partially cocked by the slide in the exact same way a Glock is, only it uses an internal hammer instead of a striker. From the outside there's no functional difference. It cannot be fired without the slide cycling and it has a ≈5 pound trigger pull with a little bit of take up. You've clearly never fired one. Since you don't believe the guy who literally has one over what your boyfriend told you about the bodyguard, here's an article from a known publication.
>It's cheap
No shit. That's why it's ideal for situations like when I had to do jury duty in the city but had to leave it in the car. Not putting my HK in there, and not going downtown unarmed.
No stop posting, you're embarrassing yourself.

>>63884732

Always fun to run into a suburbs dweeb that treats going into the city like it's a demilitarized zone.

oooooo, there's a homeless guy. ooooooo I can't park my car anywhere and I'm too afraid of taking a bus. oooooooo I can't go anywhere in broad daylight without being armed.

I know you think this sounds really macho, but I can't imagine a more bitchmade attitude than being afraid of showing up to fucking jury duty without being armed.

Glad you made it from the parking lot to the courthouse without having a panic attack.

>>63880016
If it isn't front pocket carried you're asking for someone to grab it.

>>63884749
>You don't need a gun going downtown
So we won't address how you were wrong about anything else and your doubling down on the homeless thing. This would be stupid even if you went literally posting in a concealed carry thread.
Okay Batman. She you a gun grabbing kike or a stupid shabbos goy believing their crap?
I carry a gun in my own fucking house, why would I not carry one where the odds of being assaulted by a nigger army only statistically maxed but anecdotally confirmed! You think that's been my only interaction with the homeless? No, it's an outlier of one who literally got up and declared an intention to assault me. I worked on a crackhead proof fortress of barbed wire and shipping containers at one point I'm my life in the largest murder per capital square mile in the state.
Fuck you and your Internet bullshit. You said a bunch of retarded stuff on an anonymous forum and your still trying to deflect and defend your non existent reputation.
Unless you're just a forum sliding kike, in which case your failed efforts are entertaining and I do enjoy exposing you subhumans for the poison you are. Shalom.

>>63884758
Again, not a lot of options. However anyone outing their hands in my crotch will have to deal with my wife (who's a better shot than me) whether they're a gun there or not.
I wouldn't carry this way in a high probability of conflict area, but I'm not going unarmed either.

>>63884789

Maybe you should consider grabbing a can of pepperspray before you get yourself so scared you catch a murder charge?

Why not buy the EC9s? It's absolutely tiny, chambered in 9mm, dirt cheap, and has a trigger that doesn't full like trying to start an old lawnmower?

Maybe even buy a proper holster for it and then don't have to worry about taking a chunk out of your thigh because the nylon slipcover fell off while bouncing around in your pocket?

>>63884789
>spergs the fuck out about the jews outta nowhere
You havent left the basement in years have you

>>63884818
>trigger that doesn't full like trying to start an old lawnmower?
wat. I understand you are trying to make an analogy. What I don't understand is how pull starting a mower is anything remotely similar to pulling a trigger. Get better analogies retard

>>63884861

Because pull starting a lawn mower is long and heavy, just like your shitty DAO triggers.

>>63884832
So shabbos goy then. Got it. Not even a zogbot. A zogbot would be more convincing.
>>63884818
Hmmm, harassing me nonsensically. It smells like discord tranny janny in here, doesn't it? No?
The OEM pocket holster from a major manufacturer that's exposed to lawsuits has never come off in over 6 years of pocket carry. I've had kydex wear out in a fraction of that time.
The ec9 didn't come out until after I bought the security 9, the trigger is worse (but your wouldn't know that,) and it's way bigger than lcp2.

You haven't addressed how you were wrong about everything and just typed out more noguns bullshit you read online.

At this point I'm only responding to you for 2 reasons.
I'm clearing up the misinformation your putting out, and I'm exposing the have that, yes, they are bad actors out there. You're not only wrong and giving bad advice, you're espousing not carrying a firearm in the literal concealed carry thread.
Fuck off!

>>63868102 (OP)
The mini 1911s are decent, but I'm a revolverfag.

>>63884899

Gonna need an incel to English dictionary to parse this one.

Please log off, if only for your own sake.

>>63871519
I have an LCP II in .380. They're good guns - not the most ergonomic or pleasant to shoot, but I've got almost 1,000 rounds through mine without any stoppages. It's also quite accurate.

>>63884861
>>63884876
Ignore him.
The original SW bodyguard has a trigger that is the longest pull you've ever felt on a gun, longer than a double action revolver.
He's just being an asshole and thinks you're me for some reason. He knows he's been proven wrong but he's trying to make the thread unappealing because he works for an agenda. They are on every board. You'll find these assholes on ck taking shit about cast iron because the incestuous child raping DuPont family needs your skeckles for their poison non stick pans.
He's trying to get you disarmed for his masters, whether he knows it or not.

>>63868102 (OP)
I want a small gun, I have a full sized 9mm pistol but I would like something thats easy to carry even in summer clothes.

I want a caliber smaller than 9mm/.38spc, either DAO or DA/SA with decocker, but I live in a third world country so I am somewhat limited in my options for both guns and ammo, new guns are mostly out of my price range and some calibers are hard to find.

I have seen the following options show up on the used market
>Blowback .32 and .380 pistols derived from the Walther PP design like the Astra A-60 and Vz 70, some older manufacture PPs and PPKs.
>Small revolvers in .32 S&W or .22lr, mainly S&W, Taurus, Star, Astra.

.32 and .380 are readily obtainable but usually a bit more expensive than 9mmP, .32 S&W is obtainable but not very common, and pretty expensive, and .22lr is obviously common and dirt cheap. I've shot a friend's Beretta 1934 in .380 and it was quite nice to shoot, but I'm leaning more to .32 as the optimal small gun caliber. I'm ok with .22lr as long as its in a revolver and has an 8 or 9 round capacity.

>>63868166
I think I want a p32. I would carry a snubnose but I feel that it would be too wide.

>>63884930
>log off
Wow....

>>63884805
>who's a better shot than me
No way you outed yourself as a faggot like this.

>>63884945
>Faggot
I mean, other than the hetero sex I have with my wife, sure. Whatever makes you feel better.
Sorry about your shit life.

>he doesn't CC a Desert Eagle

>>63884945
not him but my wife and my sister are both better shots then me. They may not have the grip strength to actually make most guns operable, or the upper body strength to hold up most guns for any remotely extended duration, but from a rest they got me beat.

>>63885067
In my case it's that she had cousins that were "motorcycle enthusiasts" who are mostly dead or in jail and who's activities I maintain a procedural ignorance about. She stopped hanging out with them around the time we met.
When I took her shooting at the range "for the first time" she shot a six inch group at 10 yards offhand with a compact pistol.
I don't ask questions because I can't be accused of telling people things I don't know.

>>63884899
>da joooos da joos da jooooos
fucking mindbroke

>>63884789
>engages with a troll
>but . . . managing to win the argument
>but then . . . devolves into raving about niggers and kikes
You were so close, bro. Keep trying

>>63868259
>recoils as hard as the LCP Max with half the capacity
>S&W X2 cost

>>63885220
>>63885264
Notice the pattern, he comes back to the thread, types out his response, takes nearly 5 minutes to compose 2 sentences. Continues down the thread, finds another thing to respond to, makes another response, goes on to the other threads he's shitting up for his "job."

>>63885264
>troll
No, as I said, you are a servant of and agenda. Trolls don't "log out" glowniggers do (>>63884930)
You guys should take Mondays off. When traffic is slow you're too obvious.

Also, stop being so mean. You catch more flies with honey. Your agenda pushing (not carrying in a literal /k/oncealed /k/arry thread >>63884818 >>63884749) would be more effective if (you) didn't come off like a retarded asshole.

>>63885527
I am astounded schizos like you can have guns without catching a felony
>da gubment joooooos
kek

>>63885535
You guys have literally been busted doing this in court documents where your supervisor didn't redact the (you)s.
And no, you're not jewish, you're a shabbos goy.
It's obvious. Take a break.

>>63885594
>You guys have literally been busted doing this in court
I don't get paid to do this, ricky retardo the basement commando. If the feds were here theyd be baiting you to do something instead of stop schizoing the fuck out about jewish lizards living in your walls on a hobby board.

>>63885625
>I don't get paid to do this
Yes, it's pathetic. You do their bidding for free.
I knew this post was coming before I hit refresh.
We can all see you now Mr. Noguns.
Want to talk about your dao Ruger some more? Did chat gpt come up with the ec9 suggestion? I forgot that even existed, lol.

what are feds doing in a Practical Conceal Carry thread on a honduran air conditioning repair forum?
Do you have an protips for a civilian?

In for G43x

>>63885647
>imagine thinking only 1 guy was tired of the equivalent of a hobo screeching about fighting demons under a bridge
Not that guy either, anon

>>63885673
This post makes no sense.
>Not that guy
What guy? I'm confusing you for me? Try to monitor less threads at a time.
>Hobo, demons, bridge
If you want to pretend to be someone else, maybe don't use the word "hobo" twice when I said homeless. These are similar but subtly distinct things and the way this post is coming out is like you're agreeing with my except that makes no sense either. If this is a bot, you're broken, summon your human operator.

>>63885739
you are really reading into me telling you to take your meds, you should probably just take them

>>63885663
>I carry a gun that is as tall as a G19 but has the capacity and barrel length of a G26 and is still wider than a hellcat pro/p365 macro whatever/MC9 prime
Worst gun Glock has ever made.

>>63885752
>No, I didn't get called out on saying shit like "log out", using chat gpt to argue about guns I don't know about, confusing him models, replying in a predictable pattern, not posting any image in an image board and pushing a gun grabber agenda while denying the possiblity of behavior that's been documented in federal court and then nonsensically replying to pretend to not be samefaging! >Take your meds.
That line doesn't work anymore and hasn't since you niggers were using it with no sense of irony when they were pushing gene therapy marketed as a vaccine. It's the biggest tell.

>>63885807
That's a lot of words in that there schizo ramble, you should probably take medicine about it

>>63885790
NTA.
I tried to refute this and I can't. Maybe you could argue that the early 40sw models that blew up were the worst, but I'm not sure how common that was and how many were Smith lying (if any.)
The only thing I can say is that after the novelty of the 365 and imitators wore off, everyone went back to slightly larger guns (365xl, etc) because those guns are (subjectively) shittier to shoot. So I can see someone who likes the Glock grip angle sticking with it even though it's capacity obsolete. I would carry it no problem if I already had it for free and shot well with it.
What I'd like to do is defend it with the famous Glock customizability because of the rich after market and universal magazines, but it uses single stack mags, in not confident in the after market mags, and I'm not sure it has any better after market support than the 365,hellcat, et al.

The best thing I can say about this thing is that it's existence is so absurd that it entertains the mind.

>>63885866
>Repeats meds line with shittier version of TLDR
I accept your concession of defeat.

>>63870373
>>63870468
Disgustingly, abhorrently, wretchedly based

>>63885527

On one hand, everyone telling you you're a dipshit could be various sockpuppets of a grand government conspiracy to engage in psychological warfare on 4chan dot org.

On the other hand, it could be that you're actually a dipshit and multiple people have independently arrived at that conclusion.

Who's to say which option is more likely?

Take your meds anon

>>63885790
The primary thing that defeats this argument is shield arms mags. You can have a gun with the footprint of a glock 19 (which everyone loves) but thinner and lighter, an optic, a light, and 15 round mags. I carried a 19 for several years but it was always just a little too big to be comfortable, the 43x is pretty much perfect.

>>63885883
Whatever makes it feel like you can actually waddle up from the basement lol

>>63885926
>What's more likely, the guy who keeps replying and making factual mistakes and pushing an agenda nonsensically while using every lazy shill line is exactly what he appears to be, or the guy posting pictures and factual information with sources to back it up and addressing literally everything is crazy?
You're really bad at this. Try call center work.

>>63885947
You're free to trust your life to after market magazines. Maybe you've put hundreds of rounds through them without issues. From what I've seen they are only good as range toys and unreliable. That might be lies, but I haven't seen anyone defend against it. To be fair I haven't looked into it in quite a while.
>>63885972
Weak. They really should replace you with ai. It would do a better job.

>>63885986
You seem like the kinda guy whos' ears perk up at 5150

>>63886039
For unlawful carnal knowledge was a better album.

Pic unrelated, but on topic since that's your next move, to report me.

I've been tempted to get one of these, but it's so impractical. Not actually concealed, 22lr, gun safety consists of putting the cylinder out of alignment. But I'd really like to just see how long I could get away with wearing it (and matching cowboy clothes I'd also have to buy) before anyone notices. I suspect people wouldn't think it's real. Who would? It's so silly

>>63886143
lol imagine getting a blowjob from a bitch and they (male) get an imprint of the cylinder in on their forehead

>>63886309
You keep your pants on during sex?

>>63868102 (OP)
Define practical. I used to carry pocket 9s, but now just use a five shot 38 with a clip draw. The gun you bring beats any gun you don't

>>63886321

Hmm...
911 thread gets traction on /pol/and suddenly the idiot arguing with my stops responding. Cohencidence?

Anyway, I got gifted an unwanted no lock j frame. I still haven't fired it. I'm thinking of carrying it without a holster (after testing it and making sure the timing isn't fucked.) the double action is incredibly heavy, but the single action is like a high end 1911. You just think about the trigger and it breaks.
Too old? Too underpowered? Too dangerous without a holster even with a stupid heavy da pull?
Probably. It was free. Owner was dead and heir was going to get rid of it. Didn't feel safe with it in the house. His problem.

>>63884938
.32 is SHIT

Buy a revolver in .38 Special or BASED .357 Magnum or fuck off

>actual practical

>>63879178
>642 PC.jpg (31 KB, 600x420)
NGL this is easily the best looking gun itt

>>63869743
Nice pipe, don't see to many army stems around. What blends do you like?

>>63887096
I'm jealous. I wish people would give me free guns, especially nice ones like that. I hope you enjoy it, j frames are fun.

>>63887096
38sp is 38sp, not like it got any less deadly over the years. if you're gonna carry it you might as well pick up a cheap pocket holster though, if for no other reason than to stop it from shifting oddly in your pocket or falling out too easily. there's really no downside if you set the retention to be loose enough, unless you're so hurting for money that 20-60 bucks is gonna set you back a ton

>>63888140
Thank you, I'll try to get to the range soon, but IRL shit keeps getting in the way. I'm not 100% confident on the timing and lock up, the piece is older than me and shows some damage from being dropped. It's pretty clean though for being mostly neglected. It was my friend's dad's from when he worked in the ghetto.
The women my friend loved with went crazy after trump got reelected and wanted it out of the house. After we did the paperwork making it legally mine and he told her about it she complained that now they weren't safe. Women are fucking retarded, but hey, free gun.

>>63888268
It's not the money, it's that the last few holsters I bought didn't work out and I'm tired of disappointment. But how bad could leather be?
I pretty much carry as a ritual and political statement anyway. I don't even go to the ghetto anymore. That might change with a new job, but who can predict this economy?

>>63888276
yeah finding a good holster is a huge pain in the ass. can't blame ya there

>>63886143
I have one. The pain in the ass is reloading it.

You can carry it as a pocket gun but considering one short hammer pull and a sneeze will put a round in your thigh, I wouldn't.

>>63887096
>Anyway, I got gifted an unwanted no lock j frame
Jesus, i've seen what you have done for other people, and I want that for me.

>>63888269
>letting a woman dictate anything to do with protecting the home/family
Cuck desu. Did he even try to appease her by suggesting getting a lockbox or safe?

>>63872536
>Shield Plus
this or (older model) HK P2000SK

Does anyone know about getting a barrel professionally cut down and a front sight re-mounted? I would love a 2.25" SP101 in .22 for a kit gun, but they only make the .22 in a 4.2" barrel.

>>63871010

I've been carrying a NAA .32 Guardian since the late 1990s.

>>63888658
He's retarded and a loser living with his friend's mom after his friend stole the women he was fucking. It's even more pathetic than that, but I'm not going into it. He also believes the jew merchant who told him that he can't afford to have a gun because of he uses it he will get sued (just get killed you stupid goy.)
He still works a teenager job because he used to groom his coworkers and now he's unqualified to do anything else. It's sad.

>>63888806
I would just get a Smith and Wesson. Unless you get lucky and find a gunsmith with an outstanding reputation, you're risking some bubba fucking it up.
I understand you want the sp101 aesthetic and I also kind of don't like nusmith and their reputation has taken a hit, but I'd still rather have pic related than trust some rando with my carry piece.

>>63889981
I'm looking for a snub nose .22 with a steel frame, and I'm just tossing around ideas so I don't have to buy a Taurus. All of the short barrel .22s from Ruger and S&W have an alloy/scandium/polymer frame.

>>63890323
Taurus is fine. You could buy an older S&W, but it will probably be somewhat expensive. This one is $750 https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/revolvers/smith-wesson-revolvers-model-34/smith-wesson-pre-34-kit-gun-22lr-flat-latch.cfm?gun_id=103161559

>>63889958
That you are still friends with such a loser leads me to believe you are also a loser.

>>63868673
My BUG when I was on the job was picrel, with the massive DAO trigger pull there is no chance of an AD. Picky with ammo.

>>63871151
I carried a heavy Kahn K40 with a Galco ankle holster and it was fine with hiking boots.

>>63870468
Beautiful. A perfect blend of professionalism, class, and tactical sensibility.

>>63891239
Forgot pic, crazy how these have gone up in value.

>>63891205
So did you enjoy failing to contain the 911 threads yesterday?

>>63891309
I wasn't posting yesterday, please enlighten me on what those were.

>>63872528
god i wish they made something halfway between this and a j frame. i'd kill for a tiny DAO revolver

>>63892660
The geometry of the grip makes anything smaller than a j frame unpleasant to shoot. They are also worried about gas burns from the cylinder gap. It's not worth the r&d for something no one will buy. They don't even make small derringers anymore, really. The ones they make are so fucking big, why bother?

>>63886143
See
>>63872528
I pocket carry a larger model daily.

>>63892660
>>63892769
Double action would double the size, and the anon that replied to you before me is correct. 22 mag is about all they can squeeze out of this platform and still keep it tiny. I'd argue you could bump up to a 4 shot .38 and still be smaller than an lcr or j frame, but the size difference would be negligible at that point.

>>63894122
Taurus tried, but all they really did was chop the grip and make one side shitty clear plastic. Stacking gimmicks didn't help and they were poorly executed to begin with.
Making a reduced size 4 shot 38 cylinder would have been too much r&d and reducing capacity doesn't make the necessary volume that much smaller because you still need the hardware on the inside anyway.

Should I buy a glock 26? Any good mods?

>>63894677
Reasons to buy a Glock 26:
Reliability. Huge after market support. Interchangeable magazines with most Glock products.
Reasons not to buy it:
There are lots of easier to conceal options with the same or greater capacity. There are cheaper options that are just as or nearly as good. There are more expensive options that have better triggers.

Also, do you already have Glock mags and do you like the grip angle? Do you want after market mods, or do you want it right out of the box to have everything? (Yes I know some packages have real sights.)
Are you in California or other limited jurisdiction?
Do you want a red dot? (Yes, I know they come optic ready now, but there are options in that category that don't need plates.)
personally I would go cheaper for what it offers for a carry gun that might get seized by the cops, or more expensive if money wasn't an issue.
Glock doesn't really offer the best value at it's price point anymore unless you really want aftermarket shit. If you plan to upgrade and fuck with it endlessly, it's the only choice really.

ATTENTION .32 FAGS. WHAT IS THE CALIBER THE OLD SENIOR CITIZENS ARE MOVING TO IN THEIR SNUBS FOR LESS RECOIL AND +1 CAPACITY?

its not .32 acp is t? h&r?

>>63868673
aren't all cc guns a just in case gun?

>>63895878
Yes, but this applies to people with duty pistols. An electrician doesn't have a "just in case" volt meter.
If you aren't carrying as part of you're job you're in between these sizes and while semantically still being "just in case" you might upgun a little.
Personally for me the odds of armed conflict are so low I keep my tiny 380 and don't bother with a spare mag anymore, but when I was going to the ghetto I'd typically have a double stack 9 and spare mag.

>>63895866
32 h&r. You can also shoot 32 S&W long out of it. It's the perfect caliber for a snub and I already bought 3 of them. Never going back to .38. Get the one 632 or 432 ultimate carry with the titanium cylinder if you want it extra light. I have both the regular and the titanium. Love them both but the titanium is my favorite. Also, use the Hamre forge hook grips with a nylon belt, CCW perfection.

>>63894677
Maybe.

Only reason I am going to sell mine is because the RXM is going to have a g26 grip module available soon.

The RXM is a g19 clone but with a removable chassis, unlike a Glock. Basically an RXM with a g26 frame would be a g26 long slide, something that Glock doesn't even make although many people have chopped their g19s to make that variant.

I find that holsters designed for the g19 work better with the g26 anyway because of the keel effect, so I don't need the slide to be that short.

So yeah, buy a g26 or even better, get an RXM.

>>63896213
How often do you practice and what does it cost you? This is why I stay with 9mm/380/38. I don't like spending rifle ammo prices on carry range ammo.

>>63896255
32 long is 58 cents a round locally. 200 rounds would cost you $116. I don't think most people are shooting 200 rounds a month through their .38s. 38 is .48 cents a round locally so it's not much different.

I personally don't understand why people get so wrapped up about getting a new caliber for a gun that is a niche gun anyway. As long as you have your 9mm and rifle ammo you don't really need to stash 10,000 rounds of snub nose revolver ammo.

Dry fire and 200 rounds a month, maybe even 150 will get you pretty far. No other caliber is going to offer you what you get with a 32 snub nose revolver. I carry mine more than any other gun and the investment is totally worth it for the comfort, capability, reliability and versatility.

I also have a 22lr j frame for cheaper practice and ammo availability. Probably a good idea for every snub owner to do the same. Even if I didn't, the 32 would still be my main squeeze. I actually bought the 22 before 32 made it's triumphant return.

>>63896255
I used to do the same. 9mm/380/38.

Sold the g42 in 380 because I just didn't really like it and sold the LCR 38 because I hated shooting it.

Now I go for 9mm, 32 H&R/32 long, 32ACP and 22lr. Unlike a 38/380 setup, the 32 h&r revolvers will fire 32acp because it is semi rimmed.

Detective special baby. So comfy, so aesthetic, so perfect

>>63884749
Cuck mentality

>>63896337
That's a great choice. What holster do you use?

>>63871122
>Gun on a magnet
>Pull gun from desk and magnet still on gun
>Why bullets pull to left?

>>63896365

Clark

>>63884939
I sold my 642 for this exact reason. Also it was a poorly finished piece of shit.

>>63871867
Soooooo a tiny gun? You could’ve just said that instead of “actual practical”

>>63896255
Not that anon, but I only take my LCR in .32 H&R out shooting once a month. Just to make sure I can still hit with it, and that my preferred carry ammo (High Desert 98gr wadcutters with 100gr JHP for my speed loaders) hits where I'm aiming.

https://highdesertcartridge.com/product/32-hr-magnum-98-gr-wadcutter-4/
https://highdesertcartridge.com/product/32-hr-magnum-100-gr-jhp-hornady-xtp/

I also shoot one 50rd box of .32 Long target ammunition; maybe a box and a half if I'm really having fun. A box of Magtech .32 Long LRN is $29.95 at my LGS, and I can find it about $2-3 cheaper online on places like SGAmmo.

.32 ammo isn't cheap, and .32 Long in particular is almost entirely reliant on imported ammo. However, the numerous advantages I get over shooting an equivalent .38 snub means I'm willing to pay the price (literally) for shooting .32 revolvers.

Besides, any revolverfag knows .38 Special isn't exactly cheap either. If I want cheap blasting, that's what 9mm and .22 are for. My Beretta 92FS and Taurus 96 fill both those roles.

I've been looking at the 3 inch barrel Lipseys SP101s as a backpacking gun. I'm torn between .357 and .327.

I like .357s stopping power for dangerous game and I have a bunch already (plus its significantly cheaper), but I feel like I might find the recoil difficult with a smaller gun like that. It's sometimes a little much for me even in my 4 inch Model 19.
On the flipside, I have a 632UC and it's a nice gun, so I already have some .32 long and .32 H&R laying around. The extra capacity in the .327 is nice, but would a .327 hardcast be adequate? Recoil would be more manageable, but I wouldn't be as comfortable plinking regularly with it due to higher cost ammo. But, maybe the current .32 Renaissance will drive prices of it down long term.

Help me decide broles. I don't have the cash to buy and try both.

>>63897391
I would get the 327 in a gun that size. 3" blued lipseys would be my choice as well.

>>63897391
The Lipsey's SP101 is a nice piece for .327. I can't tell you whether it's adequate to stop dangerous game, but I think shot placement and being able to hit what you're aiming at can make up for caliber to a degree.

>>63897391
>>63897514
The available data show that shot placement is more important than caliber for bear attacks. They also show that bear spray is more effective than firearms for survival of the encounter (but the sample size is deceptive.)
For the parameters you're describing 327 is the correct choice because if power saving your only mortal life was your concern you would purchase a 44 or something even greater. You obviously are willing to compromise on this by considering this choice, and you clearly don't mind cost ineffective harder to find calibers, so the extra round and lower recoil for follow up shots mean 327 is the only logical choice under your conditions.

Cost inefficient. Gay phone it's gay.

>>63868659
I have a first model LC9 and, other than the dreadful double-action trigger, I have nothing bad to say about it. It's light, slim, and has been shockingly reliable with whatever hollow-points I put through it. I want to dislike it, but can't.
That said, I am carrying a S&W 36 now.

>>63870373
I pocket carry a S&W 36 when I'm in a suit at the office. My DeSantis pocket holster is a little "puffy," but nobody has noticed that I'm carrying a firearm.
That said, I don't think it would matter too much. My boss has a go bag with a full sized 1911 under his desk.

>>63899003
>S&W 36
Did you bob the hammer, or do you not have any issues drawing it from a pocket?

>>63896305
Dry fire is great and all but 200 is a comically low round count for a gun you are trusting your life to

>>63873469
I really want one of these, but I've heard too much about frames cracking to risk it. The new updates to this line have fixed the issue, supposedly.

>>63881268
Last range trip I put about a box of .38 through my S&W Chief's Special before it started to get uncomfortable. The trigger skinned my finger when I tried my Buffalo Bore defensive loads in it. It's a handful, but not bad enough for me to not get some trigger time on it.

>>63887096
That's what I'm carrying regularly now. Get some Buffalo Bore FBI loads and a pocket holster and you're good to go.

>>63888269
Drop it off at a gunsmith to have it gone over if you're worried about its functionality. The cost will be well worth it to know you've got a functioning, safe revolver you can depend on.
Hey, it's a free gun, paying a bit to ensure it works really doesn't set you back overall.

>>63888806
I don't like the idea of the barrel being chopped up in that situation. A lot of work and expense will need to go into that, but if it's worth it to you then go for it.
Alternatively, there's this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEZEKlO6UtE&t=140s

>>63899035
I'm considering getting an extra hammer and bobbing it. So far I've found a good draw method that gets it out of my pocket cleanly, but I do mess up on that sometimes. Bobbing it is the best option, but I want the parts that came with the gun to stay original. Sadly, spare 36 hammers aren't cheap.

The NRA's emancipated former house nigger just dropped 38 minutes on this topic
https://youtu.be/TwTiXE8q8Lc?si=IXYk7k-tpQae6CmK

>>63884945
Mate. He posted a picture of himself wearing a kilt with his gun in a zippered pouch on his belt. The only people I have ever seen in kilts are humongous faggots and any man that goes out with pouches on his belt is the same, even if some are simply autistic. The fact that he expects his wife protect him doesn't surprise me at all.

>>63899416
>Wife
>Faggot
Make up your mind, noguns nigger.

>>63899052
That's why I have the 22lr trainer, which is actually harder to shoot because of the extra heavy trigger.

Eventually I'll get into reloading for the 32.

>>63899094
Glad you're hitting the range, anon. My LCR was particularly obnoxious to shoot, don't miss it one bit.

>>63899094
>>63900584
I used to carry an airweight j frame with 5 shots of .38 +P wadcutters I hand loaded, it would skin my dominant hand within 150 rounds at the range. I have since moved to a 9mm mini 1911 like the 30 year old boomer I am

>>63900602
>30 yo boomer
40 hits like a brick and 50 is like a bad dream. Enjoy every second while you can.

>>63900615
I'm trying to take my diet and stress levels more seriously to prolong my not shitty days.

>>63868102 (OP)
I got myself a Glock 43X. I don't like how small it is in my hand but it barely prints at all

>>63900553
I just mean, I wouldn't trust a gun that I have less than 200 rounds thru. Comps or plinking, yeah sure whatever. But not for a self defense type of gun

>>63899482
wife (male)

>>63900641
Well if that's the case, what's wrong with a man protecting me? Your argument makes no sense.
And try not to be so obvious about who you are.

>>63898888
I'm more concerned about moose. Going to Isle Royale next year. Hence it needing to also be concealable. I can't shoot bear loads out of a sub-6" .44 mag to save my life, the recoil is too harsh for me to land follow up shots. I can do bear load .357 if need be, but that's still quite stout, especially in a 3 inch. So yeah, I think .327 will be the way to go and get some Buffalo Bore hardcast loads.

>>63900631
How is shooting 200 rounds a month an issue? Do you shoot 1,000+ plus rounds a month through your carry gun before you consider it trustworthy?

A revolver isn't a semi-auto. You don't need to test for magazine reliability, or that your chosen ammo feeds reliably.

>>63900631
He said 200 rounds a month, not just 200 rounds.

>>63900813
>month
>>63900813
>month
oh

G42 gang wya

>>63885947
Glock magazines are extremely reliable and have been for decades. Just because a company makes an aftermarket magazine doesn't mean it has the same reputation id trust my life to as Glock magazines. I'd rather have a G48 with OEM 10 round magazines than aftermarket 15 round magazines.

>>63894677
why this over a p365 or a g43?

>>63900748
I wouldn't worry about it too much, moose won't fuck with you unless you fuck with them. I know there's dorks on here and reddit that refuse to go /out/ without some big caliber monster but you'd be fine with even a 9, it matters more where you shoot and follow up than being able to squeeze off 1 or 2 big cal rounds

>>63900748
Also I am NTA just an /out/tist. If you're hunting yes you'll absolutely need big cal but as a just in case weapon a full size 9 or 10mm is more than enough. Don't fall for these memes that these big animals are bulletproof, they arent

>>63900927
More shootable

>>63900928
>>63900934
Well, you never know. Could be that I stumble into a cow and her calfs. Anyway, I just like having an excuse to buy a new gun. I could just carry my Shield Plus, but revolvers are more fun.

>>63901137
I'd be more worried about being struck by lightning that accidentally stumbling on moose babies. Animals can smell and hear you and they'll let you know. I think either some bears are assholes or these people getting mauled were doing really stupid things after being warned.

I'd be tempted to bring the lightest thing possible. Hiking with any weight just drains the shit out of you.

Speaking of S.A.W.C., I noticed nutnfancy just uploaded an hour long shtf tactics video a few days ago and I was too bored to watch it. When I logged into YouTube again he made it patreon only. I used to like that guy, but I'm about done with his begging autistic ass.
I was tempted to make a whole thread bitching about how lame he's become, but I'll just say it here and move on.

>>63901172
He's always been a retard. I never understood why people ever watched him. Why the fuck would you post your stillborn baby on the internet?

>>63901204
I wouldn't believe that if I didn't find the photo on here before the ai thing happened. I suspect he's playing the long con. Pretend to have integrity, then sell out covertly and big. He had a lot of good information when I knew nothing and spoke in a relatable way. When I first watched him I kept thinking "wow, this kid really likes his dad, he keeps showing footage of him." Then I realized it was a middle aged man talking like a millennial brotard, that WAS him.
There's also the fact that he's demonitized and there's no ads on the main channel. Ad blockers aren't always an option.
Now that I think of it, he probably sold out to keltec day one. Even ginger outlaw can't say those aren't garbage with a straight face.
So yeah, I liked him but I was new to guns and didn't know any better.

>>63900671
That's not me, but you can be a faggot and have a wife that's either a woman or actually a man. It matters not. Being a faggot is a condition that is independent of one's relationship status. Calling me a noguns nigger for no reason is all you've got, eh. Grasping at straws. Looks like we can say with supreme confidence you are a humongous faggot.

>>63901172
>Animals can smell and hear you and they'll let you know.
Funny things happen in the woods. Sometimes you surprise each other.

>>63896679
>I just wish it didn't have that ugly cerakote job on it

>>63901402
>For no reason at all
Other than you being a noguns nigger.
>That's not me
You've telegraphed who you are well enough.

>>63901413
That's fair. One could be unfortunate to catch the moose or bear hungry, horny, and pissed off. I just think it's really unlikely to accidentally get between a moose mommy and her calfs(?) without a warning, but not impossible, that's true
>>63901826
I'm more offended by the lawyer graffiti.
Still, I think I could get over it. Maybe.