Thread 63868533

Which are the best spear techniques for fighting against multiple opponents?

>>63868533 (OP)
the flippy shit they practice in kung fu. a fast moving blade on the end of a stick is nothing to sneeze at.
sure Kung Fu as taught today is basically useless, and the Chinese have never won a war against anyone but themselves, but that doesn't mean their weapons work wasn't at least decent.

>>63868775
What's that different from twirling techniques used in zweihanders andontantes for dealing with multiple opponents?

Implessive technique

>>63868533 (OP)
The one where you breathe out hard and your ki turns everyone within 10 meters of you inside out, while holding a spear

>>63868775
kung fu is a performative art/philosophy. no one ever fought with it

>>63868533 (OP)
Nothing personal spearfag

>>63869177
nothing personnel

>>63868533 (OP)
Bringing lots of friends that have spears too.

>>63868800
For one, most of the length of a Greatsword is an actual threat. With a spear there is a much smaller part of the weapon that can actually do serious damage. If your opponent manages to get past the tip of the spear while you're twirling around you're probably cooked.

>>63869622
That's why you shorten the spear

>>63869380
>spearman makes one low speed thrust then stands there to be killed while the swordsman jumps and twirls for 5 seconds making multiple movements and swings.
Your dance video is gay.

>>63868533 (OP)
I would personally recommend and attest to the efficacy of stabbing them quickly with the sharp end of your sharpened stick.

>>63868533 (OP)
Buying the one that shoots bullets, even if it sucks.
But as a non-shitpost question, do the chinks take this kind of bullshit seriously like the whole chi shit or is it just a meme like griorious nippon steer forded 1000 times?

>>63869682
The Chinese government's official position is magical chi powers are real and you lose social credit score for publicly doubting it.

>>63869682
>do the chinks take this kind of bullshit seriously
The wushu dance that OP posted is meant to be a performance, not training for battle. However, they do have other Kung Fu styles that they do swear by. For example, if you were to study Shaolin kung fu, they'd teach you Shaolin wushu (similar to the gif) and Shaolin quan (in theory, a more practical attempt at defense).

>>63869697
Does a Chinese citizen also lose credit if they believe in ghosts? Because I'd think it would be pretty funny if some gwailou made a ghost horror movie based in Chinese myths and legends and only showed it in western countries.

>>63869771
Do they teach anything about situational awareness? How about not getting involved in strangers shit? Or not running your mouth and just ignoring assholes? Genuinely curious, it seems like a lot of these "defensive" martial arts forget the most important parts of not getting involved in self defense situations.

>>63868533 (OP)
This is retarded. The spear is a staff with a point or two. A staff is frankly the biggest pain in the ass to fight against with pretty much any weapon other than another pole arm. As long as the person using it isn't one of these specs.
Every part of a pole arm is both an offensive and defensive tool. It can be used in close quarters or to gain reach advantage at will. Even with the point snapped off you can get your skull crushed. Limbs shattered. The quarter staff was quite feared and that had no pointy bit.
Bladed non pole arm weapons dont do well against wooden pole arms. Its not the movies. The forces generated by a big wooden stick are mind numbing.

>>63869819
>Do they teach anything about situational awareness?
Yes.
>How about not getting involved in strangers shit?
Pretty much all Asian countries try and teach people to mind their own business. The reason why Japan, Korea, and China have such a high amount of rape cases is that whenever one sees a rapist, they just don't get involved unless they know the victim. LOL
>not running your mouth
I'll be honest, in their culture young people are taught to obey while old people are allowed to run their mouths and be assholes.
>it seems like a lot of these "defensive" martial arts forget the most important parts of not getting involved in self defense situations.
Have you seen kung fu guys trying to be vigilantes, or are you just assuming they do?

>>63869407
Guns defeated them.

>>63869935
>guns defeated the Macedonians

>>63868533 (OP)
>Which are the best spear techniques for fighting against multiple opponents?
run away, if enemy group splits up turn around and strike the loners, then run again

>>63869935
The romans had guns?

>>63868533 (OP)
>>63869935
You need gun kata

>>63869682
China has real effective martial arts like sanda (chinese kickboxing) and shuai jiao (chinese jacket wrestling), but they don't really celebrate them. The CCP prefers to hype up the flippy mystical kung fu as a cultural export and to boost tourism.

>>63868533 (OP)
I really dislike the pacing of Wudang styles. It's so distant from actually fighting that it really looks like dancing.

>>63871368
>The romans had guns?

>>63868775
>>63869237
>Kung Fu as taught today is basically useless
>kung fu is a performative art/philosophy. no one ever fought with it
Find better teachers and study better forms of the art: sanda/san shou, shuaijiao, baiji or liuheibafa.
>>63868800
Fending or warding, usually.
>>63869622
You've got to be a pretty shitty spearman to not be able to do butt-strikes and use your spear as a staff.
>>63869771
This.
>>63869819
>Do they teach anything about situational awareness?
My sifu taught us how to observe, de-escalate, fight, evade.

>>63873199
>>63873193
This stuff is going to confuse future historians so much.

>>63873192
>baiji
I suppose if someone had to invent a martial art based off the sex pests and molesters of the seas, it would have to be the Chinese

>>63873309
The Baiji I'm familiar with is a style from the Hui people of western China, they are desert Muslims not sailors.
>>63873204
>Optio! Drive us over that side of the ridge so we are in pilum range.
>the Ma Deuce is just for close cover fire

>>63873698
I'm basing it off the fact that when I searched Baiji up, all I got was an extinct freshwater dolphin native to the Yangtze. The closest martial arts to Baiji I saw was Baji/Bajiquan, but google sucks ass now, so maybe they're to blame.

>>63873884
>Baji
>Baiji
My Chinese still sucks after decades of kung fu, it's one of those Romanizations.
Muslim Imperial bodyguard style, some very interesting moves and more amenable to Westerners training it because the Hue's body proportions are closer.

>>63873884
>The closest martial arts to Baiji I saw was Baji/Bajiquan
To my understanding, that's the Chinese trying to combine Kung Fu, Russian Sambo, and Krav Maga. It's all about making a martial art for bodyguards.

>>63871565
Sanda is great, but it's new. It doesn't really belong in a discussion about historical martial arts, just like how Japanese Kudo and Western MMA aren't talked about in a historical context. In historical martial arts, people would practice with weapons that are nowadays considered obsolete. For example, traditional Wing Chun would also teach spear techniques for soldiers and knife techniques for civilian self-defense.

>>63869380
Literally choreographed.

>>63868533 (OP)
asian star wars kid

>>63868533 (OP)
Aim center mass.

>>63874664
I've got that exact same little screwdriver set. Saved my ass dozens of times

The spear meta is back for fighting zombies