Thread 63869761

Based on aesthetics only, what is your favorite warship?

For me, a rather basic choice, the Iowa class BBs

Hyuga-class helicopter destroyer

i love the big ol smokestacks on the lexington

>>63869761 (OP)
Nelson

It's like a massive steam powered trireme.

Amphion/Perth class

>>63870406
King of the Oceans, it was made to rule the waves across the Seven Seas!!!

>>63869761 (OP)
Why did Yanks name a battleship after a Japanese island?

original WWII Essex-class aircraft carriers

Roma my beloved

>>63869761 (OP)
Commie crap or not, she has great lines.

>>63869761 (OP)
>Iron

Fargo-class
(single funnel update of Cleveland)

>>63870825
the bow is nice

This gal was blessed with eternal youth

either mogami-class ca or udaloy-class ddg

>>63871219
i also have a fond spot for the perry-class ffg in all its ugliness

gotta give it to this big old girl

>>63870763
We named lots of our battleships after foreign places--- Maine, Rhode Island, Georgia, etc.

SusSEX

>>63869761 (OP)
Spee is aesthetic.

>>63871231
metoo

>>63870783
Personally I think the best looking of the class is actually Vittorio Veneto in her 1943 configuration. The camo looked great and I actually like that it didn't have the air identification stripes at this time. Those are Iconic, but I always found them a bit ridiculous looking...

>>63869812
I've been aboard one of these and smoked a cigarette with some Japanese navy guys, which makes me like Tom Cruise in Last Samurai. They keep it very clean.

>>63870866
Brigatines/hermaphrodite brigs are the patrician's choice.

>>63871426
Barquentines/schooner barques too, but I don't think they were very common.

>>63869761 (OP)
Easy
>>63871400
I think Roma's objectively the best looking BB, but subjectively I find VV and Littorio's lower bows more appealing

>>63871262
Nigger are you mad?
Georgia is named after king George

>>63871523
and virginia after you

>>63871523
Why would a bunch of guys in the Caucasus named their country after a Hanoverian king? Use your brain, anon.

>>63871523
LOLOLOLOLO

>>63871497
What is the logic behind this turrent layout? Lower COG?

>>63873742
Original plan was for three quadruple turrets, but because the bongs were the only ones actually sticking to the terms of the naval treaties of the time they had to remove two guns to get the design under the 35,000 ton maximum unladen displacement requirement.

>>63873765
>the bongs were the only ones actually sticking to the terms of the naval treaties

[Laughs in American]

>>63873967
>Waiting until after the treaty expires is building during the treaty
Okay

>>63871648
Destroyer leaders/scout cruisers are consistently sleek ships, no matter the nation that built them

>>63870400
this

>>63874000
Cope, the south dakotas were designed to treaty standard, and they entered service at the last time or before the last members of the KGV class. Also both them and the North Carolinas were able to have decent armor, 16 inch guns and decent speed while still being treaty-compliant, something you bongs were never able to accomplish

Worcester-class
six twin automatic 6-inch DP turrets

>>63874034
>you bongs
Lol, I'm Italian you cuckwit

>>63874000
Cope, the south dakotas were designed to treaty standard, and they entered service at the same time or before the last members of the KGV class. Also both them and the North Carolinas were able to have decent armor, 16 inch guns and decent speed while still being treaty-compliant, something you bongs were never able to accomplish

>>63873742
memes

>>63874052
>at the same time or before the last members of the KGV class
So after the treaty expired. Thanks for confirming my point.

>>63874058
What is your point? You were claiming that the bongs were the only one respecting the treaties, While I pointed out the americans were too, and they were making better ships while doing it.

>>63874056
reminds me of this

pagodaaaaaaaas

>>63874064
>Building a ship after a treaty has expired, to a design outside of that treaty, is following the treaty
You're really not that bright anon.

>>63874080
Both the North Carolinas and the South Dakotas were 100% treaty compliant. The North Carolinas started construction when the treaty were still active. I think it is you who isn't very bright

>>63869761 (OP)
That ex Iranian drone carrier

>>63874052
I was just on a South Dakota-class battleship.

>>63873742
10 guns for the space of 9
intended to be 12 but see below:

>>63873765
not really anything to do with displacement; the quad turret is objectively overweight and having a quad B was just totally infeasible
as it is, A turret had to be redesigned and always had slightly lower reliability

>>63874000
to be fair, anon is correct; both Anglo navies stuck closest to the treaties

>>63874052
the SoDak (and New Orleans) benefited from advances in American powerplant technology
however the NorCals were overweight and had the worst stability, overcrowding and damage control issues of any Anglo BB, because that's precisely the price you pay for trying to cram too much into too small a ship

>>63874234
Nice. I will always be mad at my country for scrapping all our surviving ww2 era warships. We had battleships, cruisers, destroyers, and yet they didn't even bother to save like one torpedo boat...

>>63874273
sorry bong-bro

Because of the chimney and floatplane deck area. Also it was the ship I played the most in Navy Field.

>>63874308
Worse, I'm Italian. The Bongs at least have the Belfast, we don't have shit...

Repulse is the prettiest

>>63874075
i was beginning to worry noone on /k/ actually had taste.
pagoda mass imposing presence cannot be topped

Yaaaaa maaaa toooo!

Iowas are a personal favorite of mine as well. I’ve always thought the WW2 British carriers were incredibly beautiful as far as warships go

Arleigh Burke. They're just good, solid destroyers. They can do it all and do it well. It's shameful that we ever even bothered with the lcs program, it would have been so much cooler if they made mission specific Arleigh Burkes. Imagine a flight 2 with no aft vls and an extended hanger that can carry 4 sh-60s. Or a modified flight deck that has ramps for small boats. Instead of two rhibs, now they can carry 20.

This is the only relevant thread for my question.

How do the wings on the tomahawk missiles work when sub launched? They look like they're fixed/not spring loaded so how do the missiles exit the tubes like that?

>>63875966
They extend wings after the booster phase is done and cruising begins..

>>63869761 (OP)
I hate chinks as much as kikes, but I admit I have a bitter appreciation for their carrier.

>>63876118
Anon that's a Russian carrier.

>>63876127
Fuuuuuuck meeeeeee

>>63876102
That's what I thought but in every picture online the wings looked fixed? Can you find anything showing the mechanism?

>>63874072
>using the exhaust duct as the torpedo bulge
Wouldn't that cause the engines to be flooded by a single torpedo hit?

>>63876163
google le google

>>63876163
in Tomahawk and other tube-launched winged missiles, they're designed such that airflow drags them out

>>63876190
>>63876274
I think it's just exceptionally well engineered to the point the doors are almost invisible on the surface of the missile.

>>63870825
Everything after the bow is garbage and also rusty

In a more perilous timeline, where they sunk the carriers trapped in Pearl Harbor, this big fat beautiful lady and her 4 sisters went up against Musashi, Yamato and Shinano outside Port Jackson or San Francisco Bay at 25 miles and Ching Lee would be more famous than Patton.

>>63876460
Why does it have mounted planes at the back?

>>63869905
smokestacks, you say?

As far as I I'm aware, it's the flattest of the flattops.

>>63876515
most of the battleships carried floatplanes that could be used as flying observers for the main guns. They're mounted on small catapults to get them flying and the crane is to recover them after they land on the water.

>>63876515
Recon aircraft flying off catapults. Once their mission is complete, they touch down alongside the ship and are winched back aboard.

>>63876515
to throw off enemy radar
>Hideki, what's that 10km out?
>no worries Admiral Yakisuke. just a pair of fighter planes
>their faces when the fucking USS Iowa comes over the horizon

Il always have a soft spot for soviet naval aesthetics.

>>63876605
>>63876630
That's crazy. Do you have any articles on this?

>>63876652
lol.

Are there any good battleship museums?

>>63876716 (me)
And the Krivak will never not be a good looking ship

Jap aircraft carriers are unparalleled

>>63876723
North Carolina, Massachusetts, Alabama, Iowa, New Jersey, Missouri, and Wisconsin are all open as museums. Texas is preserved also but I’m not sure if she found a home port again yet.

>>63876805
>Massachusetts, Alabama
I'm glad they survived but I'm bummed that of the South Dakota-class ships, the South Dakota got scrapped. Be cool to see her on the Missouri river in Pierre

>>63876840
That’d be quite the feat, though I get what you mean since I wish Tennessee had been preserved somehow. The real tragedy is that Washington and Enterprise both ended up scrapped when they could easily have been preserved

>>63876460
Eh the Bongs probably deploy to the east in detail while the rest of the US holds home their home waters until the Essexs burr over, nice dream though

>>63870763
we didn't. battleships were named after states. some carriers were named after battles fought on islands like tarawa or iwo jima. the real question is why did you bongs name a ship invincible and let it sink?

South Dakota and her fat ass.

>>63869761 (OP)
Merrimack

>>63870406
It maybe small but it gave me a big smile on my face.

>>63875753
why are there two MLD Fury's on the deck

Can't believe no one has mentioned the Sharnhorst sisters. stupidly sexy ship, the best looking the Krauts ever designed. Granted, they were kind of stupid ships in general, but this is purely a beauty contest right?

>>63876515
in addition to recon, aircraft-directed battleship gunfire turned out to be mad accurate
they stopped doing this only when carriers became plentiful enough that they could afford to launch recon missions off them; this was only sometime in about 1943 or 44 frankly

>>63877159
because there's always the future. HMS Invincible redeemed the name.

just like how Americans might someday hope to return in victory to Fallujah

>>63876716
>>63876760
If I have to pick a Cold War Soviet ship, I'm going to go with Kresta I/Berkut.

>>63873765
>the bongs were the only ones actually sticking to the terms of the naval treaties
BS

>>63879185
I just love big missile turrets. and the fact that it carried reloads onboard is peak homo-sovieticus

>>63879977
Bongs played the game, bent the rules a tad but certain other countries decided to throw the rule book away.

>>63877159
Cool names are cool, there probably won't be a USS Trump.

Vengeance.

>>63880000
I love how that shouts don't F* with me, there is a right end and a wrong end to be standing here right now and you're on the wrong end.

>>63880000
They simultaneously look beautiful and hideous. Nice hull sheer, bridge support struts look cool and a sleek mast array. But then there's that big gap between the bridge and mast, and the abrupt way the funnel is tied into things. Various launchers & guns and sensors everywhere. You look at it and go, "Yup. That's a Soviet ship."

>>63880088
kek, well said.
Its like the shipyard designs and builds a beautiful and sleek hull, then it goes in to the water and gets fitted by 40K orks...which come to think about it, is probably how it was irl

>>63880174
ALL HAIL SEA-/K/UBE

>>63874075
The way the pic is cropped makes the pagoda look extra tall.
>>63877770
Are those main guns 18.1 or 21.1-inch?
I can only tell the secondaries of 6.1-inch and 10cm AA.

>>63880000
can't argue with the quads

>>63880088
Soviet ships look like the kind of Cold War ships one drew when about 9 years old, i.e. chock full of platforms for sensors and guns and missiles

>>63880174
We are the börg.

>>63877159
The whole Harvey Milk thing could easily be avoided if we only named ships after people who performed meritous service in the navy if/when we name them after people.

>>63869761 (OP)
More turret = more betterer

>>63881168
better yet, not name ships after people at all
people are fallible

>>63881249
Not my nana.

Who decided to give USN CVs politician names?
Saddest thing to happen to a nation's capital ships.

>>63881290
I think it began with USS JFK, and got out of hand with USS Nimitz

JFK is because he was assassinated, but also because he founded the modern US military. everything you know about the US style of combat i.e. massive naval power, carriers, special forces, basically came from him.

so I suppose it was a popular move, and the navy thought, alright, we'll do Nimitz and Eisenhower next, for obvious reasons. but these are just the fighting leaders. JFK built the navy fo the Cold War, but who built the navy of WW2? Vinson. without him, the US wouldn't have had a navy to fight the Japs with.

then, continuing the WW2 theme, you have to have FDR, and then because they arguably made AMERICA and you can't have a bunch of politicians and not have them, it's obvious: the two most popular Founding Fathers.

then you have Stennis and things truly go off the rails. I don't know him.
I think up to this point it's all fairly reasonable.

>>63881330
it was supposed to be that destroyers were named after distinguished members of the navy, cruisers were named after cities, battleships were named after states, and carriers were named after battles or older ships. then they stopped building battleships and the whole scheme got fucked up.

>>63881330
I think the first one to fuck it up was actually the midway class fdr, and then the forrestal. at least jfk and nimitz were in the navy.

>>63875915
>It's shameful that we ever even bothered with the lcs program
The LCS isn't a replacement for the Arleigh Burkes you dense mother fucker. Even the Constellation isn't a replacement for them. Where is this same level of bitching for the Ticos? They actually have been replaced by a "lesser" ship, the Arleigh Burke. Its mouthbreathers like you in procurement and Congress which is exactly the reason the lcs program has been such a shit show. We are actually going to need small ships if we get in a slug match with Xi and you're over here trying to turn everyone into a pocket battleship.

>>63876652
What ship is the reddit frog?

>>63869761 (OP)
>ctrl+f "monitor"
>ctrl+f "Marshal Ney"
>0 results

>>63869761 (OP)
Iowa is nice, but on aesthetics alone my favorite battleship is the King George V’s purely for the quad gun turret…

>>63871193
Takao CAs are my fave too.

>>63883938
>ship
whoops

Can objects be sentient?

>>63883954
I've seen a documentary that says yes. It is called "High School Fleet"

>>63884124
Certain Indian ships like those, actually look pretty decent. Any ships based on the Kuznetsov design is going to at least look nice. I like that sort of island better than the tiny US ones or the dual ones everyone else seems to be messing with.
The type of mast on the destroyer is also a gamble. It either works or doesn't, there it does. On something like the new South Korean frigates, it just looks like a peen.

Still, I think the one class of Indian ships' I've liked is the old Godvari's. Firepower at the front and a flight deck at the back. Simple but it works.

>>63884986
definitely a kino shot

>>63869761 (OP)
Four turret, triple gun BBs are the most aesthetic, like the Standard Class Battleships.

>>63884986
>Godvari
I saw a comment that they resemble enlarged Leander Type 12s and I was pretty skeptical
but I can sort of see it now

the Hatsuyukis are imho the prettiest Japanese Cold War frigates
back when the JMSDF had sovl instead of churning out countless Burke knockoffs

Richelieu.
Tiger, and by extension, the Kongos, come really close though.

>>63885746
It would make sense since the first major Indian-built warships, the Nilgiri class, were upgraded Leanders. They had success with those and so the next class, Godavari, started with a similar design.

I love these tenacious little fellas like you would not believe; Fletcher-class.

I feel like a bad American. I can't really think of any Cold War USN ships I like (NOT counting the WW2 holdovers.) The Virginias and Ticos are cool. Other than that? Meh.

>>63886607
there are actually many interesting ship classes between the Ticonderogas and Gearings

>>63880174
this, I love a lady with a unique, unorthodox beauty

>>63874056
Lol

>>63887033
I've been using some spare time to look more up that I didn't know much about. The Charles F Adams are pretty cool. Americanism preserved.

>>63874072
How do the turrets turn? Especially A and B, then there's that emotional support turret amidship that fucks with the propulsion engineering and adds nearly nothing to the firepower due to atrocious arcs.

>>63874072
...I kind of like it...

Improvements to the engines had allowed for thinner funnels, but this is problematic in terms of the aesthetics of the ship's silhouette.
The Saratoga class is unique and beautiful.

>>63888055
there is also the Knox class frigates, which appear modest in size and capability, but IMHO are decent forerunners of the Perrys

>>63881330
It actually started with the USS Franklin D. Roosevelt.

>>63871257
what a dumper! legendary cake!

I'm rather fond of the Canadian St. Laurent Class DE's. I grew up around Esquimalt and always liked those rounded bow designs.

>>63871257
I just wish she had less armor, bigger guns and there were more of her.

>>63888261
Cute. The box ASROC launchers always look good.

>>63888445
Oooh. Smooth.

>>63882052
Masterful bait

>>63888261
Spruance class were balanced looking.
Ticonderogas jumped the shark

>>63884986
Yeah i suppose its all about proportionality, just like people

anyway what do you think of the type 21? I like all the angles it has

modern ships look stupid because they're comparatively huge but then only have one 5" gun turret. it's like seeing a giant guy with a tiny head or something.

As cool as some of them are modern gray boxes have nothing on the age of sail

>>63869761 (OP)
The Pyotr Velikiy.

>>63871523
Sakartvelo has nothing to do with the US

Austria Hungarys Admirality yacht Sms Lacroma
a floating casino with a ram bow
named after the officers party island
where no wives were allowed (both island and ship)

>>63869761 (OP)
Yamato

>>63889221
orgy ship
named after orgy island
Eppstein approves

>>63888945
it can be said that the Ticos are swollen Spruances; at the same time it can be said the Spruances are underfed

the Kidds were the full-fat version of what the Spruances ought to have been; twin Mk26s before transitioning to VLS farms

>>63869761 (OP)
Their performance was mediocre at best but I really like the Marshal Ney class monitors. The image of a beefy twin gun on such a small vessel is almost surreal.

>>63889634
>>63883478
lil goofy for my taste, later classes pull it off better imo

>>63889036
It fills me with feelings that I can never decide are positive or negative. So I guess that's good because it's unique.

>>63878018
was looking for this +1 for scharnhorst

>>63889036
>type 21
a comfortable, somewhat expensive frigate that was delivered 'fitted for but not with' a lot of useful equipment, some of which it got later (Exocet) but some of which it didn't (Seawolf)
served fairly well in the Falklands War nonetheless, albeit mainly as a floating artillery battery

>>63870435
pre-dreadnaught ships were fucking wild

>>63869761 (OP)
USS West Virginia. Armored cruisers are my weakness.

one can never have enough smoke stacks

>>63892060
yeyeye

>>63892060
>>63892169
almost looks fake

>>63892176
sure were interesting times

>>63892176
Can't find irl photo but it was used as military deception.

>>63892243
need breeds innovation, and it looks cool

I said it looks almost fake, because nothing else looks like it

Ise hybrid battleship meme

>>63874052
>>63874106
>>63874106
>>63876805
I drive her daily, her bow faces the highway, looks great in the dazzle camo.

>>63892060
Agreed

>>63869761 (OP)
Town class light cruiser

>>63893269
For some reason that visual cut line reminds me of Zubian.
Two ships back from the dead.

>>63876127
Ukrainian. It was built and designed in Ukraine. Russia never produced an aircraft carrier, not capable of it.

>>63894342
Soviet Russia.

>>63874072
>18 14-inch guns
nice

>>63876118
removing the vls granits removes the soul imo
they could have put their little cm-401 asbms in the same place

>>63889634
The felt recoil on board one of those would have been horrific.

>>63889738
I agree that's actually a better looking ship. However looking like how a small child would draw a warship is, imho, not a bug but a feature aesthetically.

>>63897992
>eight (8) depth charges
I understand now why PT boats got so few sub kills during the war

If you fags were to pick one of these vessels to serve on which would you pick? I think HMS Agincourt would be up there supposedly for being a comfy assignment.

>>63869905
I can't believe they nuked the saratoga, and scrapped the enterprise.

>>63896932
small boat+comically large gun is always a win in my book

>>63898329
I'd probably say if anything I'd be best off as a navigation officer on one of the liners converted to an auxiliary cruiser during the world wars, on account of being 6ft 7 and therefor not even close to fitting in any dedicated warship
Do love Agincourt though, for the sheer drasticness of
>fuck it, we're doing seven turrets

>>63898373
>small boat+comically large gun is always a win in my book
yes
i'm eagerly awaiting for someone to make a full length spinal mount railgun frigate or destroyer for 1000s of miles of range

>>63898337
>Do we scrap the ship?
>Preserve her?
>No lets just nuke her lmao!
So many ships went to their graves that did not deserve it during those tests.

>No one's posted the moskva yet.
Let me fix that.

>>63869761 (OP)
“We’re Coming to Fuck Your Island”
(As sung by the proud crew of the USS Get Bent, circa 1906)

[Verse 1]
Oh we sailed out east from Norfolk, boys,
With powder dry and steel,
The admiral said, “They’ve mouthed again—
Let’s teach 'em how to kneel.”
The palms may sway, the drums may play,
But we’ve no time to dance—
So load the guns and signal them:
They won’t get a second chance.

[Chorus]
We’re coming to Fuck your island,
Anchors dropped at dawn—
Your flag was flappin’ haughty,
Now it’s likely to be gone.
From reef to burning village,
We’ll be singing loud and strong—
We’re coming to Fuck your island,
And it won’t take very long.

[Verse 2]
We brought some rum and liberty,
For any who behave,
But if you raise your voice again,
You’ll only find your grave.
You rattled at the Eagle’s perch,
Now feel the talon’s fall—
We write our peace in cannon smoke,
And sign it on your wall.

[Chorus repeat]
We’re coming to Fuck your island…

[Bridge]
So here’s to brassy diplomats,
Who talk like they’ve got might—
We’ll show them what a warship means,
When stars and stripes ignite.

call me crazy but I like this lil nigga

>>63902359
cute in a kinda weird way, like a girl who's style is objectively a clashing mess but she's got it exactly how she wants it and that's nice

>>63898337
what a damn shame.

>>63874041
>6 inch double penetration turrets
Lewd

>>63876652
You mean,
>their faces when the USS Iowa stards lobbing shells at them from over the horizon.

>>63902695
Wait until you hear about 8-inch DP

>>63902359
I had a micromachines of one of these and I always thought it was neat. They also used one, or at least the image of one, in the bond film Tomorrow Never Dies which I had in my meagre collection of VHS tapes and would watch all the time.

>>63898329
I'm gonna go for the Big Mamie, USS Massachussets. South Dakotas were known to have more cramped crew quartes than usual (at least by US standards) but she notably had 0 casualties in her fairly eventful ww2 career, so she feels like a comfy and soulful choice to me.

>>63903776
smashed and slammed

>>63903806
kek

>>63870406
kawaii