ITT:Martial arts

create some distance, pick up a chair
(bahng x4)

How about some Indian Capoeira?

>>63873578
Literally just rape the nearest person as a dance move?

Would any of you anons come near a Choriok Master and say it to his face??
https://youtu.be/_x-WgsbUgiM?si=C3bQoZBlp4zzxebO

>>63873179 (OP)
>hold opponent down
>suck his dick into submission
explain to me how this is not the ultimate fighting style.

>>63873615
It's brilliant, rape and violence go together so well the logical endpoint is full synthesis of rape and violence into a single action

>>63873179 (OP)
The correct move is to strip completely naked to strike fear into your enemies. It's already common practice among the urban youths to pull their shirts off before a scuffle so the way to establish dominance is to take off your pants too. That way they know you have nothing to hide and nothing to lose

>>63873179 (OP)

>>63873634
i love dumb shit like this

>>63873704
I've seen children swing harder

>>63873636
BJ Jutsu practitioner, I see.

>>63873574
I've always wondered if there ever was an actual book and what its contents were

>>63873731
These ki magic fags are so retarded, where in slavlandia is this taking place?

>>63873179 (OP)
Most of Martial Arts is just learning how not to do stupid shit like limp wristing a punch or falling over when you kick.

>>63873749
probably Chechnya, judging from the neckbeards and the fact some dude is just standing there with an AK-74

that's an asbestos tile btw

>>63873768
>Invincible armour of lard
>Failing at forming a cuddle puddle

>>63873749
Probably Russia
>ki magic fags
The west had this slow drip feed of eastern mysticism, martial arts, traditional medicine and New age bullshit from the 50s to maybe late 80s and we all know the stupidity much of it led to.
None of this was a thing in the combloc and once the wall fell, we got hit with a concentrated gigadose all at once - and this was the result

>>63873768
holly shit that's gay and I've worked at bars oposite of the toilets on a pride march

>>63873768
wtf is going on in the second part of that video. I get the crap with the knives is one of those useless feel-good "secret tricks" they love to do but I honestly don't understand what's supposed to be going on on the floor mat.

>>63873785
Russians also believed heavily in occultism during the Tsarist period and with the death of religion the popularity of 'alternate' beliefs only grew.

>>63873615
Train how you fight

>>63873833
Yeah, that certainly didn't help
>be you
>Ivan
>living in a small town in bumfuck nowhere Siberia
>know nothing about martial arts
>pops used to box when he was in the army and you took a couple judo classes when visiting grandma in another city, but that's about it
>cousin Vitali brought over some bootleg Bruce Lee films last christmas though
>shit slapped harder than dad when bottle deep
>suddenly, new channels appear on the TV
>exclusively foreign stuff, unlike anything made at home
>wife forces you to watch spiritual healing hoodoo with her
>you force her to watch American action movies with you
>five decades worth of occult bullshido new age crystal magic dim maks beamed directly into your skull in less than a week
>some guy just moved into next town over
>claims to know all the things you've seen on the TV
>he's holding a demonstration next week
>cue systema webms

>>63873715
>tfw your no gi partner gets you into north-south (it's really just 69ing)
i'm gonna pull your guard so fucking hard bro.

>>63873704
Why didn't his secret backwards kick technique work?

>>63873760
Look, I can appreciate the athletics, but why do they have to pretend like it's anything more?

>>63873760
Is that fucking asbestos roof tiling?

>>63873958
That's wild.

Low kick. Good enough to make a guy quickly give up without getting you in trouble with the law

>>63874057
>Why didn't his secret backwards kick technique work?
Wasn't a secret.

>>63874442
Low kicks are great if you're good at them. I mean being able to kick with authority and speed without fucking up your own shin in the process.
Either way, nobody likes their calves and thighs getting mulched.

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>>63873512
I think this one is a parody anon

>>63873512
High quality shitpost

>>63873768
I want to make a film that is a pastiche of cheesy "kid learns karate and stops being a loser" films like Karate Kid or Sidekicks except he trains at a no-hit dojo. The whole thing is played completely straight and at the climax he faces off against his nemesis from a rival dojo, the ki bullshit looks like it's actually working, but it's just his opponent being really confused for a moment before one hit KO'ing the kid with the most awkward and telegraphed punch ever because he's only an orange belt. The film ends on an overhead freeze-frame as the kid hits the mat unconscious while a synthpop power ballad plays and the credits roll.

>>63876738
Sounds like it'd work better as a short skit desu.

>>63873730
Damn, thats some Mortal Kombat shit

>>63876888
Agreed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5DvK1Ge8-c

I just realized what the point of Aikido is: Domestic abuse.

You can easily beat a tiny 90 pound woman around without leaving marks or permanent damage.

>>63878628
Aikido is as pretty much as fake as fake martial arts get. It's all choreographed play fighting.
The moves are entirely based on the assumption your your opponent is also familiar with the moves and actively plays along, otherwise it doesn't work.

Literal WWE-style exhibition wrestling is a more legitimate martial art.

>>63878868
Some parts can work (namely the wristlocks, been on the receiving end of that myself), they just don't spar so they'll never learn to do it for real

>>63878628
>You can easily beat a tiny 90 pound woman around without leaving marks or permanent damage.
Why beat her when long term psychological and emotional abuse is so much more rewarding?
>>63878868
They have some tosses/throws they stole from Judo and some wrist and joint locks from Jits that are effective, if they ever actually practiced them at a competitive level.
But otherwise yeah, pretty much.

>>63873725
Yeah its real. Theres even training videos (on vhs id assume)

>>63874520
The ego needed to think you can just resist a Muay Thai roundhouse without checking it.

>>63873179 (OP)
I've got a couple of old martial arts books, I'll try to upload some pics tonight.

>>63878628
They should also easily beat /k/ shitposters who can't throw a proper punch.

>>63879549
Thanks anon, I managed to find a scanned version
https://archive.org/details/worlds-deadliest-fighting-secrets/page/n7/mode/2up?view=theater

>>63878868
Just reminder that small joints manipulation (core of the Aikido) is literally banned in MMA.

>>63873672
That's my purse! I don't know you!

>>63879753
fucking lmao, what is this thing
>Defense form no. 1 - Dance of Death:
>As your opponent moves to punch you, step inside the attack and palm strike them in the chin with your right hand
>Then use your fingers to rake their eyelids
>Then slap them in the face with your left hand, grab their cheek and rip it off
>Repeat on the right side
>Then you throat punch them, grab their throat and rip it off
>Continuing the motion you slap them in the nuts, them rip the off
>As they bend over in pain, knee and elbow them in the head at the same time
>As they fall, apply an armlock and break their arm as they hit the ground
>Stand up, stomp their head and back
>Grab their head and snap their neck
>Slam their head into the ground with your full weight
>Turn them over belly-up
>Stomp on their face and groin
>Insert your thumbs inside their cheeks and rip them open
>continuing the motion, grab their ears and rip them off
>stomp their head again, this time with your knee
>assume defensive stance, just in case your opponent still has any fight left in them
>Effective execution time - 5 seconds

>>63879754
>one guy who was an actual jiu jitsu god is good at small joint manipulation
>therefore it's a good system for dave who trains twice a week
aikido is an objectively awful system

>>63879754
Yeah, that's why it doesn't show up. Because it works TOO well.

>>63879747
>Bullshido practitioner weeb dancing around in a hakama
vs.
>Overweight hammer fisting retard in a fit of rage
/k/ommando wins 8 times out of 10 easily, only loses if he runs out of breath.

>>63874520

... that's fake, right? I did MT and even I doubt you can fuck someone up this bad

>>63879953
You see some horrific shin breaking from shin kicking, this is at least the third example I've seen.

>>63879967

Doesn't look like a shin issue, more like his thigh caved in

>>63879919
unironically yes.
like eye pokes and balls busting. they work TOO well to be usable in sparring or competitive matches where you don't actually want to cripple your opponent.

>>63873179 (OP)
as long you're aware pic related
marital arts is fine
if you want practical application for self-defense up to effective offensive combat learn all 3 to cover your bases
>wrestling (sambo,greco roman,judo,etc)
>striking (muay thai,kick boxing)
>melee weapons (kali)
are the fastest & most time efficient disciplines

stay away from gimicky bullshit like krav maga especially from former professional soldiers teaching them
the most you get out of those is the mental aspect of merciless attacking but practically speaking you won't be able to apply them properly like they never did since they used guns to kill people all their career.

stick to the basics and master them
don't practice advanced specific techniques for specific scenarios that will never happen
if you master the basics the "advanced techniques" for those specific scenarios will come out on their own.
since that's how those techniques were developed in the first place.
but waiting & wasting your time practicing for specific scenarios is a waste of time and will get you killed trying to manifest them instead of just being practical and going with the simplest solution.
most people who's never been in a fight never takes into consideration the effects of adrenalin and it's debilitating effects if you're not used to it.

t. been practicing martial arts for over 3 decades

PS: I don't even like Glocks

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>>63880035
It's real. Dummy locked his knee out and the kick hyperextended it. Same thing that happens when retards lock their knees out on a leg press machine.
>>63880087
>they work TOO well to be usable in sparring or competitive matches
Along with the rest of everything they practice, apparently.
Aikido guys are nearly as big of ring/mat dodgers as the jeet kune do and kung fu guys are.

>>63880458
I noticed the glorious Akido is not in your cope.

>>63873179 (OP)

>>63880497
> Aikido guys are nearly as big of ring/mat dodgers
after you almost get your arm dislocated by a retardedly smiling teen that doesn't know when to stop pushing his lock you'd want to dodge ring action as well. pros do it for money but (you)? no matter how many weaker guys you beat on the ring you can get shot regardless. fuck that.

>>63880558
hapkido is a form of aikido

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>>63880558
I've actually studied Aikido when I was younger since my dad used to teach it (he got up to 6th dan)
he even used it to disarm a robbery where he worked and grabbed a m16 off one of the robbers and saved the day, he even got into the news because of it in my country.

You don't actually use all the fancy shit in aikido irl,
what it teaches you is the fundamentals of body momentum manipulation (both your opponent and yourself) in conjunction with wristlocks and weapon manipulation which is what my dad used to disarm the attacker with the rifle.

It's too ritualized with katas and takes too long to get to the point though.
like most Aikido dojos only teach you Jo (short staff which is actually useful) till after you reach black belt.

there are a ton of disciplines which have much faster & practical ways of learning effective hand to hand and melee combat.

>>63880592
That's a lot of words.
You could have just said "I'm a pussy" and been done with it.

>>63873218
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mosX7L25HV8

>>63880592
>after you almost get your arm dislocated by a retardedly smiling teen that doesn't know when to stop pushing his lock
Funny that, Sambo, Judo, BJJ all teach joint locks, plenty of them absolutely devastating if pushed past the point of breaking, and all of the three sports hold regular full contact competitions
2dangerous4mma is cope from people who never pressure tested their supposed skills

>>63880856
Problem with small joints manipulation is nefarious fighters.
Gingers are small and obscured by grip you cant see what is happening.
Locks of large joints is you see that one fighter is allying lock and you can generally observe that fighter is breaking joint without need so yo ucan penalize him.
With fingers you cant see shit and nefarious fighters can just break other fighters fingers and cripple them for life just because they are evil like that and you cant penalize it because you can distinguish between justifiable push past limit and non justifiable.

kek

>

>>63879953
Looks like the guy had his foot grounded and didn’t brace into the kick. then his knee dislocated.

>>63873237
How would you adapt this technique vs a female foe?

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>>63873512
Monty Python's Papperbok was full of stuff like this.

For me it's defendu

>>63873760
>it isn't two dudes fighting while being carried by the other guys.

>>63880087
Ah, Master Ken, and his video on 100 ways to attack the groin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyXhysmMNhE

>>63873730
>KILL KADDAFI
Is this a call to violence or the name of some hardass that will teach you ninja techniques?

>>63880087
>when you face the man who have practised a single punch 10.000 times
>it's a punch to your balls
I kneel (involuntarily, from pain)

>>63879967
Anyone got that vid of the guy who broke his own leg after shin kicking the wrong dude?

>>63880458
Here's why Muay Thai does NOT work on the streets.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NhQcqqMAdTI

>>63873683
I love this so much and idk why. It's good for my soul.

>>63876738
Why not just play it straight all the way?

>>63878868
From my understanding when it broke off from traditional jujutsu and judo the founder and some of his students were very exceptionally gifted martial artists that were able to pull off some absurd shit in practice but it never really translated to the average student and quickly watered down into a performative art.
>>63879953
He’s double jointed they do that as a prank to fuck with the new guys.
>>63881048
Small joint manipulation, biting, and eye pokes are banned from for obvious reasons but the problem with the cope argument that certain martial arts hide behind when they claim to be oriented “for the street” is that they aren’t particularly complicated techniques either and no they aren’t particularly well practiced in those martial arts either because they never practice at all. You can crank an arm bar a thousand times in full contact and do it all over again the next day assuming you aren’t a psycho that breaks your training partners. Closest you will ever get to practicing eye pokes is essentially an open handed jab which the average boxer or mma fighter are going to be markedly more effective at. Shit Jon Jones is famous for just holding an open hand out in front of his opponent hoping they run into it and he can get away with an eye poke.

>>63873578
>>63873615
>The Indians entered this dance under the rather childish delusion that they were going to rape everyone else, and nobody was going to rape them. At New Delhi, London, New York, and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They shat on the street, and now they are going to reap the shitstorm.

>>63880458
Technically, Marksmanship is a martial art. Every time you field strip a rifle or shoot a target you're practicing a fighting art.

Just something to think about.

>>63884655
I used to know a guy, then an old man and now dead, who was one of the highest ranked judo practitioners in the world. He used to ask all his students "what was the most powerful martial art in the world". Of course this would start the usual debate about various martial arts styles: kung fu, karate, judo, boxing, bjj, etc. He'd let all his students argue about this for a bit, then interrupt them, calling them morons for thinking it's anything other than proficiency with firearms.

He also had this amazing quote which I really took to heart:
>Be me, visiting my friend who is one of old dude's students
>it's old dude's 70-somethingth birthday; he's having a party at his dojo and my friend wants to drop by to say hi.
>we visit, everyone's having a good time. old due suddenly busts out an acoustic guitar and starts playing. None of us had any idea he played.
>he's pretty damn good
>one of his students remarks "wow, sensei, I didn't know you could play guitar like that, that's amazing, I wish I could play like that"
>suddenly old man stops playing and looks this dude dead in the eye and says bluntly:
>"No, you don't."
>Student looks puzzled
>"What you meant to say was: you wished you wished you could play the guitar. Because if it was just as simple as you wishing you could play, you'd be at home practicing instead of wasting everyone's time whining about it"

So remember the wise words of the old judo man: if you want achieve something then start making effort. Now.

>>63884809

He sounds like a self-absorbed asshole. First he purposely misaligns the answer to his own question, secondly he shits on a dude who was complimenting him

>>63884977
It was definitely blunt and lacking tact, but I think it was also a very poignant statement. Think about it generally, not just in this specific instance. How many times have you heard someone express they "wish" they could do something or change something yet make zero effort? Less whining, more doing, is good advice.

>>63884977
I blame the bootlicking culture surrounding these whole "martial arts" sifus, masters and whatever bullshit titles they invent for themselves. Students are (still) tolerating abuse so they are being abused.
If I wanted some instructor in the current day and age I would say: I pay you, you answer my questions or you are fired (more politely ofc)

>>63878628
Literally cringe stupid faggot shit ass bull shit

>>63880674
People without any background in fighting also disarm robbers you dumb pretentious stupid cunt nobody steps up the ring against the best fighters with that pretend look at me horse shit

>>63885316
thats the practice version. have to nail someone in the head to take them off balance

>>63883610
I know for damn sure you ain't familiar with this, but the coochie is a woman's weak spot.

>>63880703
I'd rather be a pussy with all my limbs and brain calls intact, thank you.
> hurr-durrr, I've gotten hit in the head for 10 years practicing box/kickbox and I still have 200 IQ.
keep telling yourself that, braveheart.

>>63885173
>I blame the bootlicking culture surrounding these whole "martial arts" sifus, masters and whatever bullshit titles they invent for themselves. Students are (still) tolerating abuse so they are being abused.
The fucked up thing is that kid diddling is extremely common in martial arts.
And even kickboxing and boxing have a ton of grooming.

>>63886627
It's any position that extensively works with kids
Schoolteachers, Sunday school pastors, sports coaches, take your pick

>>63886622
>brain calls
You're right, you probably shouldn't spar. Wouldn't want to risk what precious few "brain calls" you have.
lmao

>>63879883
>dude just fuck him up lol

>>63886580
>>63883610
You joke, but in Chinese traditional medicine, the same body of knowledge that Dim Mak and acupuncture draw from, the "Conception Vessel" is considered a major meridian of the body, and the point "CV1" specifically--halfway between the vag and the anus--is considered especially vital. Therefore, one could say the "cunt punt" is in fact the serious answer to that question.

>>63886675
> hurrr-durrr, it's "cells"
thank you for proving my point. keep tanking those punches with your "smart" head. you're almost Einstein level already.

>>63886685
My favorite thing is the absolute tonal whiplash in some sections
>ram your thumbs hinge deep into his eyesockets, then grab his ears and rip his fucking face off
>you may also apply a throw as necessary

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>>63886806

>>63879753
>Dim Mak timetable
>punch a dude in the taint between 8 pm to 10 pm and he will take double damage

>>63879883
I don't understand. Step 14 is to insert thumbs and rup their cheeks off, but that was done previously in steps 3 and 4. Are we supposed to rip off their ass cheeks as well? And if so, are we ripping face or ass in steps 3, 4, and 14?

>>63887214
>but that was done previously in steps 3 and 4
That was just the external skin on the outside. 14 is the muscle.

>>63886712
>Board literally has built in spelling and grammar check
>Still a retard
People like you don't have any training and it shows.
>Don't lift heavy, you'll hurt yourself!
>Don't spar, you might get a nosebleed!
No physical fitness, no martial prowess, and your shooting ability amounts to not much more than casual range trips when you can afford them.
You are the product of being raised in front of screens by an indulgent single mother.

>>63873710
they are children
>>63884444
checked, you need to make this a movie now

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>>63873760
I was very excited watching this webm until it revealed those two guys were not in fact about to have a bout of piggyback fisticuffs

>>63880856
There seems to be a lot of people online who quit BJJ because of injuries. They all use the same culty affirmations too,"It's not BJJ's fault" "Accidents happen in all sports" and the classic "BJJ Save My Life™"

>>63889270
The thing with BJJ is that in most cases it isn't one catastrophic injury, but the general wear and tear from hard training day in, day out. Things like rib pain from getting smashed, finger arthritis from gripping the gi, neck pain from getting choked too often etc
Sure, there are guys who had an inside heel hook ripped on them and had their knees turned into confetti, but those are outliers (unless we're talking pro athletes, it seems like 80% of those guys had an ACL reconstruction at some point)

>>63873223
I've seen this dance at the club

>>63889270
>the classic "BJJ Save My Life
Most of those testimonies are from profoundly depressed people who found meaning and joy in the sport. "I would've roped if I didn't find this thing I enjoy" is just less Youtube-friendly

>>63873218
Are chairs still good when you've got a low roof stopping any overhead swings?

>>63889335
That's probably a culture problem, it's strange how BJJ gyms have way more serious injuries than what you see on say a college wrestling team. I've heard of multiple guy in my area permanently blowing rotators

>>63890358
Consider also that college wrestlers are in their physical peak and do it for what, four years before they graduate?
BJJ is largely middle-aged people past their physical prime
Of course, it also has to do with submissions, especially if your training partner is careless, you refuse to tap or you're competing and a guy just rips it like a retard. It's an inherent risk, though one that can be managed by not being a retard and not training with retards

>>63890358
>why does some rando gym take safety less seriously than a major academic institution with NCAA and other organizations breathing down their neck
Truly a mystery.

>>63890309
>>63890755

I'll leave this one killer martial arts move here and get on with my day:
Steel toe caps vs shin. Game over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnQgajmbEhE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCQ6mrmDPzc

>>63874442
Indeed. People don't know now much they can destroy an opponent, and how hard it sucks to receive. We walk on those legs so the next morning you're still sore ever time you put weight.

>>63890358
Average age and conditioning practices are probably pretty big factors as far as injuries are concerned.
Younger guys who take their conditioning seriously aren't going to get torn up near as bad as the average BJJ guy when training.

>>63894537
>Younger guys who take their conditioning seriously aren't going to get torn up near as bad
They do. It's not an age problem, it's a qualification problem.
Black belts in BJJ haven't meant anything in about two decades now and most instructors today (50%) are entirely unqualified to teach.
They are literally Karate/TKD-tier easy to achieve, pay and wait and you'll graduate and then you can open your own gym.
Combine that with a bunch of mid-life crisis refugees, stoners, ex-wrestlers too fat to wrestle, and Napoleon complex manlets practicing joint manipulation = injury city.

Also, BJJ is just plain gay and for people who cry when they get hit.
The same way people quit football to play basketball, baseball, or soccer the first time they get sacked is the exact equivalent of BJJ guys the first time they eat a hard cross or hook, leg chop double leg, etc. They quit and find something less intimidating but accessible.

>>63894661
>Also, BJJ is just plain gay and for people who cry when they get hit.

Over the years I've realized just how many people got really deep seated "strike fear". Even people you'd actually think are pretty tough guys.

Anyway, like you said, BJJ is extremely lame and boring as a sport. I don't care how technical it is. "BUT MUH HUMAN CHESS!!!!!!" anything can be fucking reduced to "chess but <x>" if it's competitive and features two competitors.

>>63894754
>BUT MUH HUMAN CHESS
Calling any martial art "chess" is fucking retarded. Chess is purely a mental game. Physical things like dexterity, strength, endurance, and flexibility don't matter at all. Any martial art, whether it's based around guns, striking, grappling, swords, etc, necessarily involves all those things. It might be technical but it's still very physical, which means its utterly retarded to reduce it to 'muh human chess'

>>63894754
>"BUT MUH HUMAN CHESS!!!!!!"
Ever notice jits guys get frustrated or pissed off during a match and the first thing they start doing is slapping/punching each other?
Striking is instinctive, the rollbro fears the striker.

Shit talking aside, there are a few things from jits that are worth getting a hang of. RNCs, arm bars, and guillotines aren't bad skills to know. Good takedown defense nullifies like 90% of jits though.
>>63894795
The chess player/philosopher BJJ bullshit is kung-fu levels of cringe.
>just flow and roll, bro

>>63880458
>stay away from gimicky bullshit like krav maga This. Don't depend on something invented by people whose idea of self defense is to beg for US B-2s.

>>63894661
>Black belts in BJJ haven't meant anything in about two decades now
BJJ has one of the longest white-black belt timelines, even at absolute McDojos that promote based on attendance. The average time to get one is like 10 years
The only time you hear about someone achieving a black belt in like 5 years it's about absolute prodigies that were murdering adult black belt competitors at 16, two years into training

>>63873578
What is this called? Pajeetsu? Pajeet Kune Do?

>>63894945
>BJJ has one of the longest white-black belt timelines
>average time to get one is like 10 years
It takes a 12 year old like 5 years to get a black belt from a strip mall dojo.
10 years of just showing up 3x a week isn't all that impressive, tbqfh.

>>63894754
>BJJ is extremely lame and boring as a sport
Usually, and I say that as a BJJfag, but I think it's mostly a consequence of some rulesets.
CJI decided to do something new with its rules and there genuinely wasn't a single boring match, other than maybe the LW final. Ruotolo v Tackett was a fucking banger
>>63894881
>Good takedown defense nullifies like 90% of jits though
That's like saying that a good takedown game nullifies 90% of striking. Not necessarily wrong, but good fucking luck with that
The reality is if you're not competent in both, you'll get your shit pushed in by someone who is

>>63876738
>>63884444
I'm out of the loop.
Has Baki ever tried to touch systema? Like have a fighter who could actually do all that corny bullshit for real.
That manga loves all kinds of goofy McDojo shit, so I'd expect a systema fighter to get introduced eventually.

>>63894996
>That's like saying that a good takedown game nullifies 90% of striking.
Correct.
Which is why these little slava ackbar fuckers have been dominating almost every division recently.

>>63894991
I've never heard of a single instance of that happening, either you're pulling that out of your ass or your local BJJ scene is turbofucked beyond human comprehension
>10 years of just showing up 3x a week isn't all that impressive
It's only large chain McDojos (ie anything with Gracie in the name) that promote on attendance, no reputable place will give you a belt unless you're actually skilled, mostly because no one wants their reputation stained by their best students getting vibe checked by mediocre purple belts from down the street (this is why a gym banning cross-training at other places is the biggest possible "leave this place right fucking now" red flag).

>>63895023
>It's only large chain McDojos (ie anything with Gracie in the name) that promote on attendance
You mean the same large chain dojos that attract the most students and are also churning out the most black belts?
>no reputable place will give you a belt unless you're actually skilled
In a sea of mediocre black belts, having yours from a "reputable place" doesn't mean much to anyone but you.
Having a win in a major competition is a bigger accomplishment and sign of skill in BJJ now days than a black belt is.

>>63895058
>attract the most students and are also churning out the most black belts
By proportion, but only by the virtue of having hundreds of franchises. And it only takes a minute of googling to find out the majority opinion on these places and their "black" belts
>reputable place
By this I meant "not a shithole", not necessarily a well known gym
Also yea, no shit that actual achievements supersede imaginary power rankings

>>63880458
>Luta Livre

use a pistol to get a long gun
use a knife to get a pistol
use a rock to get a knife

if you can't find a rock use wrestling to take someone down to the pavement and bash their head onto the pavement till you get a rock

>>63895011
>Has Baki ever tried to touch systema?
You should read Tough by Tetsuya Saruwatari.

>>63895317
Wrestling gets a lot more fun when you realize the ground is a weapon.

>>63895362
Anon, *everything* is a weapon.

>>63889270
I've seen another BJJ practicioner breakdown of those cases and it's often a combination of
>starting after 30
>ego rolling
>not taking S&C seriously
Guys in their mid 30s who did not take care of their body are joining a demanding sport and trying to keep up with the 17-20 year olds who want to compete. They are hyped about finding a new purpose/goal in life beyond slaving away at their job, the community, etc and don't take rest seriously. And after passing their peak in the late 20s the body is just more injury prone and a few BJJ training sessions should be replaced by some strength training for injury prevention.
While the BJJ defense force does behave like the pit mommies insisting that they're cuddly little things despite being 6.5% of the dog population and committing 66% of fatal bites, you rarely see "BJJ ruined my life" videos from 25 year old guys who started at 16. It's almost always dudes in their 40s who had no business going as hard as they were going.

>>63896356
Kendo would unironically be great for that demographic. It's not like they're going to become world champions anyway so they might as well do a budo where the injury risk is slight and it's a lot more about focusing on what you're doing instead of just "winning".

>>63896409
Yeah, but BJJ comes with a lot of tough guy mentalities about it being the ultimate defensive style, thinkers not fighters, all fights end on the ground, etc.
All that goofy mallninja shit.
This is highly appealing to balding men who just found out their wife is fellating their personal trainer on the other side of town nightly and are trying to resist the urge to commit murder-suicide.

>>63896430
Introduce them to Buhurt

>>63887014
giwtwm

>>63896430
>Yeah, but BJJ comes with a lot of tough guy mentalities about it being the ultimate defensive style, thinkers not fighters, all fights end on the ground, etc.

Always makes me laugh. Especially with how little most BJJ places actually train at actually PUTTING people on the ground.

>>63894996
>Usually, and I say that as a BJJfag, but I think it's mostly a consequence of some rulesets.

Very much so but I'm not super invested in more recent developments. I'll look into what you posted about.

>>63895362
Wrestling is also mroe fun when you realize how many TMAs are 90% wrestling or weapons. If the TMA isn't bullshido or weapons forms adapted to unarmed, it'll have tons of wrestling. It's weird but when you teach some TMA people wrestling, it's a weird way to pick up new wrestling moves too.
>>63896510
>Always makes me laugh. Especially with how little most BJJ places actually train at actually PUTTING people on the ground.
NTA but it's also sad to me how many Judo schools don't focus on groundfighting due to BJJ existing. BJJ came from the Gracies learning from a highly skilled Judoka so it's not like BJJ has the rights to shit Judo did first.

>>63896524
>NTA but it's also sad to me how many Judo schools don't focus on groundfighting due to BJJ existing.
>1. put opponent on the ground
>2. kick and stomp violently until desired level of incapacitation is achieved
work every time.

>>63896585
Especially in a group setting. There's so many random hard crap on the ground like concrete that a bad fall alone can be enough to kill. And with friends, even getting someone into a good BJJ hold might leave you vulnerable to a boot to the head.

>>63873179 (OP)
sometimes goofy werks

>>63873704
Fucking brutal. Is this allowed on a blue board?

>>63873768
>alright now just writhe around on the floor for me perfect great form steven keep it up okay that will be $200

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNcQEpsX-qU

>>63874442
Posting Tawanchai is kind of cheating but yeah the point still stands, unlike me after getting low kicked for the first time.

>>63883772
HEMA may be the most worthless stuff besides Aikido and the Ki shit. It looks fun though.

>>63876738
It's not the same as what you said but you might want to check out The Art of Self Defense.

>>63876888
>>63884444
>>63895011
Everyone that replied to him got digits except me. This is a bad omen.

>>63879883
Does anyone remember that rip the throat video where it's like a marine or something and he is going over moves and each ones ends with stabbing them in the throat and ripping? He goes like
>yadda yadda yadda and then RIIIP THE THROOOAAATTTT
I can't find it on youtube anymore.

>>63880626
>shoot him in the back and then hit him with a weapon
I can't find any flaws in this technique. Maybe shoot him again instead of hitting him with a weapon.

>>63884977
A real master would have asked him to hold the guitar for practice and then smashed him with it.

>>63896409
I've seen a lot of cute autist girls into fencing. The catch is they are dating one of the instructors.

>>63897784
>The catch is they are dating one of the instructors.
That applies to girls in any martial art.

>>63897815
Of course.

>>63897706
i want to get into hema it looks fun.

>>63897868
Get ikkyu/shodan in kendo first and you'll have a better time. HEMA clubs differ massively in quality and the curriculum is all over the place because they tend to fetishize techniques rather than "the boring stuff". Cross-train with kendo and you'll religiously smash out fundamentals for a time even if that means doing the same footwork drill for two hours.

>>63897784
It sucks that they're all either old or fat. Some of the older ladies got some serious poise, though.

>>63896510
The windup on that punch gets me every time.

Martial arts can be cool way to stay fit and have fun. If you just want to be able to defend yourself learn to box.
>b-b-utt boxers get their ass kicked by martial artists I've seen it on the teevee!
You won't be facing martial artists you will be facing violent opportunistic scrubs. Boxing is a low entry hobby, and boxers are some of the most chill people around.

>>63899144
Boxing IS a martial art.

>>63897868
There's a massive wide variety to HEMA from clubs to styles.

>>63883748
Monkey tests for ripeness

>>63873704
Plaid shirt is 100% ling xiaoyu main

>>63874120
Yes, Russia loves asbestos

>>63873704
Reminder that this nation beat China in a hand-to-hand confrontation on the border.

>>63889270
That girl doing my man M00t dirty.

>>63880662
Lmfao this is the best one.

>>63900073
>mfw modern day medieval army fighting
Why is all the cool stuff happening elsewhere?

>>63901134
China has a perfect opportunity to be kitting out their border guards like Dynasty Warrior characters but refuse to do so. Pathetic.

>>63897784
>>63897815
>>63897835
funny how gym pussy is the same everywhere.
>start lifting/kickboxing/fencing/jits/etc.
>tee hee im a girl but im serious about learning!
>eventually bangs instructor/top student
>eventually bangs top student/instructor
>drama ensues
>leaves after 1-2 years to find another hobby to make drama in

>>63897868
>>63898516
There's a decent bit of HEMA that is ranked sports now and they are miles above the fat/gay/tranny "historical" clubs that are basically Kahrodddy in puffy sleeves.
agree than kendo and sport fencing will put you at the top of the list in terms of athleticism and sparring tempo, but decent HEMA clubs will teach technique as well for their weapons of choice that you won't find elsewhere

>>63897141
what was goofy about that unless you are referring to his left foot forward stance

>>63901512
IMO avoid any two-handed weapons (kendo and longswords in particular), just focus on some one-handed ones. It will transfer well to many improvised weapons like clubs or knives/daggers, walking sticks, whatever (with a more parallel stance it even transfers to good old boxing punches); it can be done safely - till quite advanced age - despite already having some serious injuries and you will have your whole body physical training all right.
Besides, using weapons instead of bare hands to solve your problems is a high IQ move.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGY75zKpAPE