Thread 63873845

This isn't really much of a safety. It's just a trigger that fires when pulled, like every other gun trigger.

No, it only fires after you've manually disengaged the safety and pull the trigger.

>>63873845 (OP)
Fuck ya
mudda

>>63873845 (OP)
Fuck ya
mudda

>>63873845 (OP)
As someone who doesn't own guns I also don't get it, I'd want a dedicated safety and not this stuff, I'd not trust this. feel free to explain to me why people call this "safety"

>>63873845 (OP)
Fuck ya
mudda

>>63873845 (OP)
>This isn't really much of a safety. It's just a trigger that fires when pulled
Correct. But it makes striker fired handguns drop safe.
Sig should have gone with that double trigger to avoid some of their controversy.

>>63873845 (OP)
>>63873871
It's a drop safety meant to prevent the mass of the trigger from pulling it if you drop the gun and it lands on the ground at the correct angle. It has nothing to do with, and is entirely separate from, other safety mechanisms. It does not replace the normal safe/fire sort of mechanism. It is in addition to that.

>>63873871
Striker fired pistols usually, and I emphasize usually, are designed so that even when the gun is "cocked" the striker is not at full travel. Pulling the trigger is required to complete travel before tripping the sear. However, since there's no mechanical way to stop the striker like there is a hammer, there's to real "safety" to engage. Putting a mechanical block in the trigger that's designed to only disengaged when held as if the gun is in hand ideally helps ensure that accidentally putting pressure on the trigger like say getting caught on something or being dropped doesn't cause the gun to go off.

>>63873893
>>63873926
>>63873887

If the trigger hits something hard enough to engage the trigger, isn't the safety going to get pushed in anyways? It is just a little flap on a spring.

>>63873940
Read the posts you replied to again. It has nothing to do with something hitting the trigger. It has to do with INERTIA. It stops the gun going off if you drop it due to inertia pulling the trigger when a falling gun strikes the ground.

>>63873845 (OP)
Guns do not need a safety. If you are worried about it, dont have one in the chamber. One can draw and rack if they practice faster than some hood rat can draw and shoot.
>>but but Bob the builder what about this senerio I just made up in my head
Well pal after you go fuck yourself you could then consider just carrying one in the chamber and not being such a pussy.
>>but this guy on YouTube shot his leg
He was a tard. Are you a tard? If so its simple. Don't own a gun. Guns are for non tards.

>>63873993
>One can draw and rack if they practice faster than some hood rat can draw and shoot.
>but but Bob the builder what about this senerio I just made up in my head
I wish I had the video of this exact situation happening on hand.
>Guns are for non tards.
Also extremely ironic statement given the pure retard energy you give off.

>>63873887
>it makes striker fired handguns drop safe
lmao, imagine opting to use a striker if you have to add this

>>63873845 (OP)
its a drop safety which also -reduces- FOD from pulling the trigger
also good for legal imports of guns that don't have safeties, since they can ship a gun with an easily replaced blade safety trigger, with the original trigger in package, all without actually modifying the gun

>>63873926
Damn, I assumed the extra trigger tingie actually blocks firing pin from reaching primer besides locking trigger. So it really is just a meme trigger lock

>does nothing
>receives butthurt replies

>>63873845 (OP)
good thing there's 2 other safeties built in

>>63873970
>due to inertia pulling the trigger

it's a light piece of plastic how much inertia can it have

>>63874239
you do realize theres a transfer bar connected to the trigger, right?

>>63874027
Noguns detected

>>63873845 (OP)
historically safeties existed to prevent the gun from firing accidentally (for example, when dropped). Not to stop you from pulling the trigger.

If you're too stupid not to pull the trigger, you just shouldn't touch guns. Ever.

>>63874239
enough to make a 320 go off

>>63873845 (OP)
I love how Glock excuse itself by claiming that all modern guns don't have external safety, so it's ok they don't, but then again they started the no external safety trend.

>>63874006
Your text reads like it was typed by a skinny white feminist transvestite with a ass licking fetish. I hope that's the vibe you were going for. You definitely nailed it.
>>muh video
Go outside faggot real life is happening

If you cannot, or refuse to, train to flick the safety off while drawing an automatic, you are a faggot.

>>63874051
>>63874051
Glocks also have a firing pin block that gets pushed out of the way by the transfer bar when you pull the trigger.

>>63874464
On a revolver the holster was the safety for over a hundred years. A manual safety is not necessary when a weapon is drop safe, in a holster, and not being used by a troglodyte. Why add more steps for everyone and give retards a crutch for their improper training and handling?

>>63873893
ok wait so it has a normal safety as well, then people on this board are full of shit and lying given how they present this feature

>>63874548
>the holster was the safety for over a hundred years
An empty chamber was the safety back in the day.

>>63873993
We've all heard of "bait or retardation," now we've got "bait AND retardation."

>>63874571
It doesn't have a manual safety anon. The only physical safety you pull is on the trigger.

Nogunz retard subhuman nigger

>it acts like a trigger when you pull it

Yeah that’s the point. But the force that would need to be exerted on the trigger In order to pull it (say, in the event you drop the gun) is not the same as the force needed to disengage the dingus. So the trigger remains locked and can not move back.

>>63874280
The 320 foolishly does not have a dingus

>>63873993
Well played

>>63873893
>It is in addition to that.
Then why do glonks only have trigger triggers?

>>63873871
>>63873845 (OP)
Buy a different pistol if you want a thumb safety or other type. The glonk safety is desired by some people because you cannot forget to disengage it.

>>63874253
seethe

>>63873871
Pull the trigger and find out

>>63874051
It's the linchpin to a series of safeties. The firing pin block blocks the firing pin. The trigger bar disengages the firing pin block. The trigger moves the trigger bar. When the gun is dropped, the inertial safety prevents the trigger from moving at the start of the sequence of events.

>>63875383
Yes it does, it's just in another location, which is also the firing pin block.

>>63873845 (OP)
Buy a 1911

>>63873845 (OP)
It’s a fucking nuisance

>>63873871
>>63874051
>>63874384
>>63874464
Holster is the safety. Manual safeties on a pistol is for people who look at a trigger and think 'I don't know what if just goes off, I don't trust it,' which really means they don't trust themselves to not pull the trigger unintentionally.

>>63873845 (OP)
>that fires when pulled correctly
the trigger wont budge if your fat finger aint scooping the bottom of the trigger guard

>>63876699
Manual safeties also help people that don't use holsters, of which there are many. It's pretty easy to get the trigger caught on some pocket lint or thread and then BANG

>>63876737
they closed down my favorite strip club because this. guy sitting down shot a whore in the ass with his load.

>>63876582
Well if they’re disengaged by pulling of the trigger, then they don’t matter, because the inertia of the trigger of a falling gun will disengage them anyways. The point of the dingus on other striker fired guns is that the direction of force required to move the trigger backwards will not also disengage the dingus, so the trigger can not move back. It’s kind of locked in place no matter how hard it impacts a surface, even at the correct angle.

>>63874571
Glocks don’t have manual trigger safeties but other striker fired guns can have them, like the M&P has both that style trigger safety and can be optioned with a manual safety.

>>63875050
Yes anon. Because the only concern was drop safety. Not preventing troglodytes from pulling the trigger.

>>63874239
It's not just the trigger. It's the trigger, the trigger bar, and the striker itself. If dropped, all of that mass travels in the same direction to make the gun fire. But on a hammer fired gun, the trigger, trigger bar, sear, and hammer all need to move in mostly different directions for the gun to fire, so it's very difficult for a drop to jostle all those parts perfectly for the gun to fire.

>>63876737
“People who don’t use holsters could be here,” he thought. “I hate people who don’t use holsters.”

>>63877295
> But on a hammer fired gun, the trigger, trigger bar, sear, and hammer all need to move in mostly different directions for the gun to fire

Doesn’t matter, since they’re all positively linked, and will move the way they normally do if the trigger is depressed. Some action that is performed after and dependent on the trigger being pulled cannot possibly be a drop safety. The drop safety must keep the trigger from moving in the first place so the whole cascade of movement inside the gun never happens.

>>63873845 (OP)
Revolvers don't need an additional safety mechanism (since the transfer bar) because of heavy pull of a DA trigger.
Pistols gave you a light trigger and introduced safety to make up for that. This glock dingus does nothing indeed and is only needed for some outdated striker designs to work as intended and do not fire _without_ even pulling the trigger kek. This thing is still unsafe by any standards because of light trigger pull without additional safety.

>>63876737
those aren't people

>>63877562
Glock was a success (to say the least) because of its high capacity polymer construction; it worked reliably at a decent price too. Funnily enough, millions of people started to recognize its - non-existent - safety as a defining feature instead of a bug and an afterthought of a modern pistol. Once they "got used to it" it was over.

>>63873871
As someone who does own guns and has carried some type of glock nearly every day of his life for the last 15 years without issues, you're a dumbass and your fear is born of ignorance.

>>63873871
Worthless yuronigger

>>63876849
>shot a whore in the ass with his load

He must have not been in a private room.
ALWAYS shoot whores in private rooms. You never know when the vice squad has a man in the club.

>>63878819
There’s no discharges in the champagne room

>>63877562
The rise of kydex holsters in the late 20th century makes it a moot point. You can’t manipulate a trigger in a kydex holster

>>63877551
>>63877659
I think it's fine to carry with no holster IF you're carrying a revolver or you got a manual safety. If you're carrying anything else it's retarded. Personally, I holster everything but I can see why some people choose to freeball it

>>63874253

> Refuses to acknowledge the superiority of falling block because it has to be replaced.

>>63879056
The whole reddit finger is still a cope after unsafe guns.

>>63879215
The beretta autist in this forum is insufferable. No one cares about your obsolete design and the dozens of beretta pistols you own with minute variations

>>63879285
There's not just one, by my estimate there's probably like 5-10 of them fags

>>63875116
>>63877256
ok then i don't understand how people feel safe carrying a glock

>>63879581
Normal people who care about such risks keep theirs in a hard plastic (kydex) holster so nothing is pulling that trigger until you pull it and pull the trigger yourself

>>63879581
Easy, they don't pull the trigger.

>>63873845 (OP)
Unfortunately the drop safety did not prevent OP from being dropped on his head as a baby.

>>63879056
Verify the holster is safe for your gun. Don't just assume it's going to protect the trigger.