Thread 63878432

Holy shit, America is back.

Back to dying for Israel?
never stopped

>>63878456
operation began and ended with hitting Iranian nuclear sites. Literally nothing else was touched. Hegseth is busy saying we have no intention of doing anything else.

>>63878456
what blew up?
who died?

>>63878463
It's a rundown on Operation Midnight Hammer: seven B-2 Spirits dropped 14 MOPs on Iran's nuclear facilities, accompanied with strikes from one ballistic missile submarine, supported by wings of US fighters.

>Operation Midnight Hammer
126 aircraft were involved, not a SINGLE shot by AD, not a SINGLE Iranian jet flew. The regime has been outed as a joke, it’s over.

>>63878467
*From a guided missile submarine, excuse me.

>>63878462
>operation began and ended with hitting Iranian nuclear sites
you really believe that? I got some beach front property in Arizona to sell you

>>63878470
Not much they can do really. If you have stealth aircraft and your enemy doesn't, you win

>>63878467
Sounds like an expensive op. I'm sure the Israelis will be eternally grateful and stop selling technology to China and other potential enemies.

>>63878456
Only mullahs died though.

>>63878479
Copium

Also I hope all these regraded Flightradar spammers will STFU from now on, it was literally used a deception tactic; when on a combat tasking they’re going to go silent. I kept trying to tell retards that but they never listen.

>>63878462
>The US is not going to get involved
>The US is only going to supply munitions and nothing more
>The US is only going to supply aerial refueling and nothing more
>The US is going to perform targeted strikes and nothing more
We are here
>The US is going to perform a full air campaign and nothing more
>The US is going to stage a limited intervention to secure strategic sites and leave, nothing more
>The US is going to perform a full invasion to eliminate the IRGC and leave, nothing more
>The US is going to help the new Iranian government stabilize over the next few years and nothing more
>After twenty years the US is finally leaving Iran
So much for Donnie's peace prize.

>>63878484
How many stealth aircraft have ever been shot down? One?

>>63878479
They specifically sent non-stealth fighters in ahead of bombers to bait out the defenses, and NOTHING.

>drive to work, get McD breakfast
>drive a B2 over Iran
>bomb browns to Kingdom come
>get back
>get a Denny big slam breakfast
>go home
Yeah America is back

>>63878487
The last two bullets won't happen. The U.S. has unironically learned not to help install puppet governments. They'll let Iranians/Israel do it themselves, then just bomb them again if they turn hostile

Are they going to give us video of the strike or not?

They easily could have given a simple MFD recording by now.

>>63878502
We'll probably see it in 4-5 years when it gets declassified.

>>63878456
They're not the ones dying.

As for regime change, the U.S. may do more light bombing, but that’s the maximum commitment, the U.S. military no longer does war and hasn’t for over a decade. The Army and Marines are transitioning into non-combat branches, and without boots on the ground there’s no real war capability.

>>63878505
Should have invested into stealth bombers and logistics so you don't run out of fuel 500 meters from the enemy capital a few days into a war

>>63878488
Copium, dude.

>>63878507
Goddammit

But I guess it makes sense if they want to do a follow up strike at some point in the future.

>>63878512
But Angelica wants new luxury yacht.

How much did it cost to the US taxpayer to destabilize yet another ME country for Israel's sake?

>>63878487
>The US is going to stage a limited intervention to secure strategic sites and leave, nothing more
>The US is going to perform a full invasion to eliminate the IRGC and leave, nothing more
>The US is going to help the new Iranian government stabilize over the next few years and nothing more
Why even go that far? Just let it collapse and install bases there like Syria and Iraq. There's no point in trying to civilize browns.

>>63878517
>taxpayer
like clockwork

>>63878488
Looking forward to the AI generated images of downed B-2's and B-21's though.

So fucking hilarious watching thirdie shills try to spin a narrative out of this

>>63878517
>destabilize
Iran's regime was never going to last forever. Iranians seem to be sick of towelhead dictators, thank god

>>63878432 (OP)
So is Ukraine going to lose the few millions of aid that weren't allocated to Israel yet?

>>63878517
how come no one talks about russian taxpayers, or chinese taxpayers?

>>63878517
Calm down, Habibi, your food aid is not in peril. No need to thank us. Not that you were ever going to, anyways.

>>63878487
>>63878487
>The US is only going to supply aerial refueling and nothing more

Debunked.

>The US is only going to supply munitions and nothing more
Firstly, they didn't said this but these ammu paid by the Israeli and allowed under the treaty; this is not new nor a move under debate.

>US is going to perform targeted strikes and nothing more

US military strike against Iran was certainly never ruled out, and occured in 1988 (mantis) and 2XXX (soleimani)

Bad try, dude

Wow that was fast, thank you, jannies.

>>63878470
What happened to Iranian air defenses and their air force?

>>63878539
Ask Israel about that

>>63878487
>Iraq Osirak reactor destroyed by Israeli Strike in 1988.

>Libyan nuclear program dismantled via US agreement in 1995. (He was anally raped to death with a knife 20 years later)

>Syrian nuclear reactor destroyed in 2007 Via Israeli strike

>Iranian nuclear program destroyed via Isareli strikes on the Natanaz and Isfahan sites, mass assassination campaign and sabotage + US B2 strikes on the entrenched Fordow site.

Just give up already, stop trying to get a nuclear deterrent you'll always be fodder for American made JDAMS if you fight back against Israeli - American hegemony over the region.

Best you can hope for is becoming tribute states like the Gulf states that invest hundreds of billions of dollars into US entertainment companies and projects (Stargate AI, WWE, UFC, F1, Golf) if your useful financially you won't be targeted. The Saudi's are also going to recognize Israel like the UAE once this situation cools down towards the end of Trumps term.

And based on the history it's the right move, better to live a pampered life on your knees then to lose horribly like Saddam, Gaddafi, Assad and now Khomeini.

An Israeli led Middle East focused on development and with Wall-street and Gulf money to fall back on would be able to compete with South East Asia in the long term. Time to accept reality and move on.

>>63878487
It's called "escalation", retard. You need to learn the language of International Peace.

>US bombs Iran
>stages false flag on own soil
>ground invasion and article 5 triggered
>NATO has to actually pump their defense spending up to 5%
4d chess you'll see

>>63878496
Doesn't get much better then Moons Over My Hammie after a strike mission!

>>63878492
Any details on which fighters they sent?

>>63878517
>Israel's sake?
Doesn't you like cheap gas prices?

We've done it bushmen! The 00s will be known as the decade of the American hyperpower.

>>63878552
They said 4th and 5th gen so...

>>63878488
But how many stealth aircraft have been flown against opponents who didn’t have trouble shooting down regular aircraft? Serbia was far and away the most competent opponent they’ve faced and they only managed to down 8 planes total.

>>63878498
I sure hope so but let's be honest, foreign policy isn't the strong suit of the current administration and by the time the next one comes in the US will be stuck firmly in.
>>63878522
I agree completely. Unfortunately I don't think the message has gotten through the heads of policy makers yet. Third times the charm and all that.

So how many more trillions are we going to waste again now?

>>63878574
Why won't the Tzar Putin think of the poor Russian taxpayer when he orders another batch of trillion roubles to destabilizing Eastern Ukraine

>>63878470
Lmao, so this is the vaunted Iranian military? I thought they were supposed to help enable a multipolar world order or something not get flown over by a hundred jet aircraft unimpeded.

>>63878498
>The U.S. has unironically learned not to help install puppet governments
May I see it?

>>63878579
Yeah, the Iranians are hardly resisting. Their AD and radar network is blown to bits, BLUFOR runs amok in their airspace and the Iranians can all but watch as another load of JDAMs destroy some IRGC compound.

>>63878581
>may I see it
Syria

So it's ober
the entire "war" was simply to hit that facility

>>63878432 (OP)
Fresh from Maxar

>>63878539
They got sick with cuckoldry from russia

>>63878569
It might not have gotten through the heads of policy makers but the ones organizing ops on the ground know what works. Iran has plenty of Kurds. Just apply the Syrian model. It's cheaper (both in terms of capital, lives and political costs), easier, enables force projection, it is secure and clean but most importantly it works. We need to stop treating the ME like it has any real countries besides Israel. Outside it everything is loose agglomeration of tribes (and I mean tribes in every sense of the word) and sectarian violence. The lines on the map are literally not worth the ink they are sketched on. "Arab countries" are all fake and we should stop treating them like real countries.

>>63878601
"Real" countries

>>63878556
There’s been some missteps along the way, but I’m being forced to grudgingly admit the last 25 years has overall been a great success for American power. Nearly all America’s enemies have been humiliated or self-destructed. China’s the one big exception and it remains to be seen if they’ll also prove to be a paper tiger or a real threat. I just wish Trump wasn’t fucking around with our alliances and trade agreements as I think those have helped us get to where we are.

>>63878605
Russia had already self-destructed back in 1992
What real enemies have been destroyed in the last 25 years?

>>63878467
>14 MOPs
Where are we getting these nonsense numbers from? They said last night they dropped six. Two on each site.

>>63878601
The Sykes-Picot agreement and allowing the rise of the house of Saud were two of the biggest blunders the French and British ever committed and the world is still suffering the consequences to this day.

>>63878560
>But how many stealth aircraft have been flown against opponents who didn’t have trouble shooting down regular aircraft?
How does this have to do with Iran or any other dune coon "military", for that matter.
>Serbia was far and away the most competent opponent they’ve faced and they only managed to down 8 planes total.
Serbia was one of the very few nations in history to be defeated by a sustained air campaign.

>>63878432 (OP)
>Born too late to fight in the middle east
>Born too early to fight in the middle east
>Born just in time to fight in the middle east

>>63878637
You're not going to do fucking anything you neet. You're even in the fucking military. Why the fuck do you care? Vietnam type wars aren't going to happen again, not even against China. USA will bend the knee as it has done to Russia. There isn't going to be a draft with millions of men being sent into a meatgrinder. Stop being retarded. Unless you're a bitch boy grunt, then OK well, maybe. But I seriously doubt you're going to be dumped into Turkey and told to march across the Zagros mountains.

>>63878618
Russia could have rebuilt, and I think many thought that they were. Ukraine exposed them for how bad of shape they were in and cost them a ton of legacy military equipment and destroyed their economy. Though the loss of their reputation might be the biggest problem for them. Countries like Libya, Iraq, Syria, and now likely Iran, though not nearly strong enough to be competitors with the US of course, were trouble makers supporting terrorism and working as outposts for influence, power projection, and resources for our enemies like Russia and China. Pakistan and North Korea are holding out because they got nukes in time. But Pakistan is in really bad shape and countered by India. Some countries like Egypt fell under our influence without any military intervention whatsoever. America may have been a hegemony since the end of the Cold War, but now every axis of resistance against this reality is crumbling.

>>63878637
i also scrolled through discord this morning.

>>63878432 (OP)
The MIC always wins

>>63878551
for me it's the super bird

>>63878487
>So much for Donnie's peace prize.
He did pick the least likable fuckers on earth to bomb, i'll gladly give him that much

So apparently the Iranian parliament approved the closure of Ormuz.
Will they actually do it?
Will we see Operation Praying Mantis II: Electric Boogaloo?

>>63878726
>Ormuz
Hormuz

>>63878723
>ukranian separatists literally wiped out
>finland and sweden join NATO
>Armenia essentially leaves CSTO
>Kazakstan tells Russia to fuck off and shifts towards China
>mercenary groups are decimated
>Russian forces in Africa get routed
>Syria falls
>Iran in process of getting BTFO

how did they fuck up this badly?

>>63878723
>He did pick the least likable fuckers on earth to bomb
America or Israel?

>>63878539
They got drone striked from trucks, just like ukraine did in russia.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/ships-trucks-and-suitcases-how-israel-reportedly-got-its-attack-drones-into-iran/

Whatever tried to move afterwards was bombed before being able to take off.

I thought it was Biden who was warmonger.

>>63878726
honestly, asymmetrical attacks in the US would probably be their best bet. launching more missiles will just result in the US coming back to blow up every military base in the country

>>63878742
War is always based. The problem with Biden was that he was fucking shit at it.

>>63878742
does someone have the picture of the survey where dems were pro airstriking syria when both obama and trump ordered it, but repubs hated it when obama ordered it then loved it when trump ordered it?

same shit will happen with iran

>>63878462
>the special 3-targets operation

>>63878741
It's also one of the reasons why the internet was shut down in iran.
https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20250620-israeli-fpv-attacks-iran-infiltration-drones

>>63878462
>Hegseth is busy saying we have no intention of doing anything else
who gives a shit? Nothing he says matters when Trump can shart out a tweet and order another round of bombing on a whim

>>63878726
That's expected and totally feasible, Iran has aircraft carriers

>>63878432 (OP)
>Air balloon catches fire
Hoi4bros, I'm feeling a bit worried about this timeline

Why is Hegseth asskissing Trump so much? I mean sure you have to mention the big hoss but he is acting like he is a Mike Adriano video

>>63878733
>how did they fuck up this badly?
I mean in all their fucking up they still undisputably proved that as long as you have nukes, you can do whatever the fuck you want and no one, not even the US, will do anything about it.

>Invades the biggest European state, declares war on all of Europe/West and all they get is crickets.
>Wipes the ass with Geneva conventions, the UN and International tribunal. Crickets.
>Iran, China and North Korea all help out their clownhouse of an operation. Not one word said against China, not even a T about fucking North Korean army units carrying out offensive operations on European soil. Only Iran gets dabbed on because it's the only retard joining in without a functioning nuke to have old Donald smoke their dick.
>Deployed nukes across Kaliningrad and Belarus. Again simply letters of concern.

Think about states like Kazakhstan or Mongolia. These guys clearly see the writing on the wall and that is they'll need to suck Chinese off hard enough to have nukes deployed on their territory.
If they try making them themselves, they'll get Iran'd.
If they stay nukeless, it's only a matter of time before Russians run out of targets for special needs operations in Europe and start prodding "Rightful Russian Empire clay".
If you assume they are fine with making a mess of the world, they didn't completely fail. Like a homeless guy with AIDS. Doesn't give a fuck about what happens with him, but still takes pleasure in passing it on around him.

>>63878783
>asskissing
Literally his work

>>63878787
Russian intelligence services are so ass I genuinely don't think they would find out if Kazakhstan developed nuclear weapons. Getting the go ahead from the US would probably be the hard part but, if they got that permission, I think they could probably make it work before the clownshow that is the Kremlin cottoned on.

>>63878773
Iran has a converted cargo barge lol

>>63878773
they don't need carriers, they can just lob missiles at tankers like the houthis are doing

>we flew the most advanced stealth bomber over a country that has zero AD and has israel doing barrel rolls over the capital of for the last week and werent detected!

Why did this retard act like it was some kind of gigantic acomplishment?

>>63878787
China wouldn't stand for them messing with Mongolia et al, regardless of nukes. If Russia started putting forces on the border, China would offer Mongolia a 'peace keeping force' and in they'd go. No nukes needed.

>>63878800
Sure, if they don'r mind getting bombed 24/7 by the Jews and every power with a functioning AF and/or navy. The problem with bombing the Houthis is that there is literally nothing in Yemen worth bombing, Iran has plenty or targets though.

>>63878802
But iran told me everything was fine?

>>63878802
Because Russia has repeatedly sold nations on their claim that Israel is too scared to fly F-35's over Iran due to their wunderwaffe AD and they prove this by posting radar returns not showing an F-35. You understand why this is retarded but thirdworldies don't. So saying you dunked on Iran is you by proxy dunking on Russian AD.

The issue is that Israel won't like that, since Russia is their ally and friend. So expect a reprimand from Trump for damaging the image of the Russian military.

>>63878732
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-BfVMTK6LA

>>63878802
if it's so easy why can't you do it?
checkmate

>>63878802
>has zero AD
that's not what you said before this thoughever

>>63878816
Did iran even have any modern Russian AD?

>>63878800
Why bother with tankers just blow up everyone else's ability to refine and export oil. The response is going to be the same either way, at least they can fuck all the Suuni Muslims like they want.