Wouldn't cutting off all your neighbor's main revenue source and attacking their civilians shipping be considered an act of war?

I'm just trying to understand why this is even a "good option?" If you're losing a war against one neighbor, why would you try to indirectly attack them by attacking all your other neighbors?

Also, hasn't Iran been fighting the Taliban and bombed by Pakistan lately for supporting terrorists against them too. What's the deal with everyone disliking them?

>>63883097 (OP)
>What's the deal with everyone disliking them?
they're assholes, simple as

>>63883097 (OP)
They aren't going to close the strait, and if they do the US would put in place freedom of navigation operations for commercial shipping through the strait. I'm sure of it

>>63883114
That is, notionally, the point. That's very difficult water to work in with a hostile nation on the coast, there's relatively good odds that the Iranians would actually be able to hit something operating in the Hormuz. Naturally, that would only involve making things even worse for them, but these are Muslims we're talking about. If they go that far, it's because they don't give a fuck about what happens after that, they just want to hurt somebody.

Why dont they just cut a canal???

>>63883097 (OP)
>Wouldn't cutting off all your neighbor's main revenue source and attacking their civilians shipping be considered an act of war?
They did it by proxy with the Houthis and pissed off everyone except a handful of Shia militias, do it directly and watch what happens next.

>>63883097 (OP)
Iran could close the Strait. Pretty much the only country that would benefit is Russia. The U.S. would be hurt somewhat, but the bigger losers would be Asia, especially China and India. Iran would struggle too because its economy is highly dependent on the foreign exchange it gets from selling sanctioned crude at a discount to China. I doubt the Chinese would be thrilled if Iran cuts off 1/3 of its daily petroleum intake. Moreover the U.S. could make the Chinese lose face by accusing them of being poor stewards in the region.

We are going to war regardless of what Iran does. There is literally nothing Iran could do to stop us from destroying them on behalf of Israel, so they might as well be as disruptive as possible.

>>63883182
more like 15% years ago.

>>63883097 (OP)
>Wouldn't cutting off all your neighbor's main revenue source and attacking their civilians shipping be considered an act of war?
Unlike the United States, the UAE and Qatar are so bought out and infiltrated by Israel as to actually get kinetically involved on their behalf. They didn't do this for Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War, and their populace would revolt if they did it for Israel.
They're already supporting Israel economically, despite what Israel would have you believe, so there isn't much more they can do to escalate.

>>63883200
China's averaging about 16M b/d in consumption. So that's pretty much a third of their crude moving through the Strait.

>BRICS tries to go one hour without fucking each other over

>>63883104
Former General of the US Army Wesley Clark on the military strategy after 9/11 attacks: "We are going to take out 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and finishing it off with Iran" [2007]

>>63883097 (OP)
>If you're losing a war against one neighbor, why would you try to indirectly attack them by attacking all your other neighbors?
Because the your regime's entire claim to legitimacy and influence is that you're resisting the great Satan, so doing nothing is an existential threat, you have to strike some kind of propaganda blow. And, you're betting the Americans don't want to get involved with full-on regime change, so if you can strike back in some way, find SOME kind of off-ramp, then you can say 'Look, the zionists dogs and their american masters weren't able to totally wipe us out' and start building back up over decades.

>>63883239
>thanks for the Shaheds, fuckos. We'll be keeping those SU-35s too. Enjoy the S-300, no refunds.

>>63883114
>>63883132
The US has been dealing with this already. Did all you fucks forget about the Houthis lobbing missiles at commercial ships and causing insurance rates to spike and more ships to sail around the horn of Africa and the Artic? And then when Israel and Iran started fucking around there was a spike in GPS spoofing (which caused a tanker collision) and necessitating the need for war insurance? I swear every Iran related post seems to have memory holed the last few months of Iranian proxies fucking with peoples boats.

>>63883277
Khamenei didn't even mention the attack in his statement today. They're just gonna pretend it didn't happen, and focus on Israel.

>>63883232
The Saudis have already been in a proxy war with Iran and removing them as a competitor is their #1 goal. I can absolutely see them joining in to pound them, and if they do others will too.

Iran has separatists to support too. It could be defacto partitioned like Iraq without ground forces.

>>63883290
holy kek seriously?

>>63883097 (OP)
>Wouldn't cutting off all your neighbor's main revenue source and attacking their civilians shipping be considered an act of war?
Yes. It literally is an act of war.
According to international law and everything.

Just here to say I will never forgive the Bongs for splitting up UAE and Oman like this. For fuck sake. It gets even worse but you can't see it on this map. See that little circle bit to the left of the O of Oman? That's Madha. That's Omani territory. Okay you think, that's weird but not too weird since Lesotho exists, right? WRONG. INSIDE Madha you have Nawah which is an UAE counter-enclave.

So it's an UAE enclave, in an Omani exclave. I know why they did it because of 'ethnicity' and shit after the Indians got buttmad they got given one of the biggest and best nations on the planet united for the first time in its history and then started murdering each other due to religion and blaming the Bongs for doing it, but it still is baffling.

>>63883308
Nahwa, even. Not Nawah.

>>63883097 (OP)
>muh straight of homos

>>63883308
You sound like the type of person who would enjoy the border gore of China's 50 year long civil war.

Unfortunately, the maps don't do it justice.

>>63883251
>former
Yeah
>said
Shit that didn't happen
>timestamp
After said shit had failed to happen

>>63883324
I know there is a lot of border gore around but an enclave in an exclave... That's just beyond silly. If you're one of 300 people in Nahwa, to get out, you gotta go through Omani customs, drive through Omani territory, then get back into UAE territory and then do it all the way back. I know technically it was formed by tribal elders before the Bongs ratified the borders, but you'd still think they'd go 'This is fucking retarded'. But by the 60's the Bongs just didn't care and the whole fear of invasion made them give up the entire area (and said invasion never happened) and all those billions they lost, if not trillions, by doing so. Idiots.

>>63883324
India inside Bangladesh inside India inside Bangladesh

>>63883292
Yeah but a civil war in Iran means probably 4x as many refugees as we saw from the Syrian conflict which was destabilizing enough for Europe. I don’t think they can take anymore Muslim cock down their throats. In a perfect world China would see this as an opportunity to find wives for the 40 million unmarried breeding aged males making their population graphs look like an upside down pyramid but they won’t.

>>63883097 (OP)
>What's the deal with everyone disliking them?
Iran's spent 45 years arming, organizing, and supporting militias and terrorist groups across most of the region. Some of it is directed against the United States or Israel, but an awful lot of it isn't. And even when it is directed against Israel? It's not like when the IRGC and Hezbollah decide to start shit they run it by the Lebanese government first.

>>63883097 (OP)
Can someone tell me how this benefits Jews and/or Ukrainians? This is all that is relevant to me.

>>63883236
These facts are hurting the feelings of the Chinese people. Pls delete.

>>63883308
Then avert your eyes.

>>63883182
>The U.S. would be hurt somewhat
The US is a net exporter of petroleum so they would stand to benefit from higher oil prices, no?

>>63883292
The Saudi's have a truce with Iran now, they got cucked due to sheer military incompetence.

>>63883444
The American oil industry would. Most of us don't own oil wells though, but we do buy gasoline.

>>63883444
Sustained higher oil prices leads to higher risk of inflation, something Trump wants to keep under control.

>>63883282
>Russia launches its war against Ukraine, ultimately hanging their ally in Syria out to dry and undoing a decade of work
>China is put in a tight spot because they cannot fully condemn or support Russia, and it delayed their own military plans towards Taiwan
>China supplies Pakistan with the weapons it's using against India
>Iran & its proxies are threatening a strait which is vital to Chinese trade
>None of the Arab states want to lift a finger to help Iran because they hate them
A spectacular series of plays by progenitors of the multipolar world.

>>63883158
POST
THE
ROAST

>>63883301
>>Wouldn't cutting off all your neighbor's main revenue source and attacking their civilians shipping be considered an act of war?
>Yes. It literally is an act of war.
>According to international law and everything.
yeah it's a blockade. blockade is an act of war
I feel like cap america
>I got that reference

>>63883312
>Nahwa, even. Not Nawah.
Not N'wah?

>>63883459
>A spectacular series of plays by progenitors of the multipolar world.
truly, the multipolar world is collapsing, mostly due to the actions of the people who claimed to want the multipolar world
we'll go back to another decade or two of comfy western dominance
inventing weapon systems like the F22 with no one to use them on. I wonder what the next wunderwaffe will be in the 2040s that congress will cancel after only making 100 of them because there is "no one to use them against".
Maybe laser planes?
Probably laser planes. That shit sounds cool

>>63883097 (OP)
>Wouldn't cutting off all your neighbor's main revenue source and attacking their civilians shipping be considered an act of war?
Yes. No other Gulf state likes Iran and they'd be very quick to pitch a fit at Iran if they did this. Not to mention, it wouldn't just affect the other Gulf states but China as well because Iran's main oil customer is China.
>I'm just trying to understand why this is even a "good option?" If you're losing a war against one neighbor, why would you try to indirectly attack them by attacking all your other neighbors?
It's only seen as the "good option" by Iran and their retarded supporters. Iran would be fantastically shooting themselves in the foot if they actually did it.
>Also, hasn't Iran been fighting the Taliban and bombed by Pakistan lately for supporting terrorists against them too. What's the deal with everyone disliking them?
People love to talk about Israel being the sole problem child of the ME but are conveniently ignoring that Iran has been payrolling proxies for decades. Saudi Arabia had been fighting the Houthis for over 10 years now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4GKAgXv0yc
Iran being a "state sponsor of terrorism" isn't just a meme cooked up by Israel. They've always been doing it since the Iranian Revolution and they aren't exactly good friends with any of the Gulf states because of it

>>63883097 (OP)
>utting off all your neighbor's main revenue source
All your neighbors have US military bases and help the US attack you.

>>63883097 (OP)
to be honest i don't think they have a navy anymore, israel bombed bandar abbas at least on two separate occasions, and suspiciously there is no talk about it or satellite images of it, and just now i checked on google maps and the whole place is blurred, and it wasn't yesterday.

>>63883097 (OP)
Iran's neighbors are also assholes.
They have their assholes neighbors the Pakistani grumpy wahhabis, their assholes neighbors, greater Kurdistan, their assholes neighbors Iraq which are currently trying to foster a good neighbor relationship, their assholes neighbors the UAE who are tired of their shit, their assholes neighbors Bahrain and Oman who are also tired of their shit, and then there's Kuwait which is just trying to sell Iraqi oil

>>63883251
>Iraq

2003

>Syria

2024

>Lebanon

Have we even invaded them since 1984?

>Libya

2011

>Somalia

Work in progress

>Sudan

We haven't even invaded them yet

>Iran

2025

Clearly ole' Wesley's predictions were off, by a lot.

Could the UAE dig a cannal across this point to shorten transit routes and charge ships to use it while also making it safer?

>>63883104
All countries are assholes to someone

>>63883659
nah, that whole coast of oman is mountainous terrain

>>63883659

>>63883663
Yean that is pretty hilly. Though it's only around 20 miles, if they really wanted to they have the money and slaves.

>>63883659
SHIP TUNNEL

>>63883678
maybe they could do it at the tip in Khasab

>>63883324
>Sov. sat.
What's that? Sovereign satellite?

>>63883659
Doesn't make any economic sense

>>63883685
SOVIET satellite ya dummy

>>63883667
Wouldn't that upper part just drift away?

>>63883694
Yeah it's the world's largest missile

>>63883687
Nah... That doesn't make sense

>>63883686
I know it's just fun to think of. I

>>63883659
Iran would just need to make it's blocus a little more in the east. Technically the choke point would be even worse as they all come from the same direction now.

>>63883694
It might flip over. That was a concern with Guam at one point

>>63883359
vgh...the sino-aryan masterrace...

>>63883681
Shipping tunnel
Shipping tunnel
Through the mountain
Shipping shipping shipping shipping tunnelllll

>>63883349
Thankfully they sorted it out and made the border gore less retarded in 2015. There is only one enclave now in the area, Dahagram-Angarpota.

>>63883504
There will be a period of continuing western dominance but it won't be comfy because democratic decline in the west will result in falling living standards at home and more military adventurism abroad

>>63883457
Trumps policy says he does not want to keep inflation under control. Powell wants to keep inflation under control.

>>63884106
For a few minutes there I wondered why would Jamaican sprinter Asafa Powell have any influence over this...

>>63883659
And in a few years, it becomes obsolete

>>63883097 (OP)
yes, fucking with the panama canal should be considered an act of war

>>63883289
the Houthis didn't do a blockade. it was more of a harrasment campaign. iran is different. they have a navy that'll quickly get sent to the bottom of the ocean if they try to pull a blockade. they fully understand this

>>63884130
Worked for Germany.

>>63884130
Explain how??

>>63884191
The entire purpose would be to bypass an Iranian "blockade" of the strait. Blockades don't last forever, and the distance saved doesn't make a lot of sense considering the tolls that would be charged to recover the cost of building it.
>Kiel canal
Denmark is much longer and the sound toll much more easily enforced until it suddenly wasn't. Also that was a very big German flex, and on completely different topography.

>>63883459
>>63883504

i hardly come to k because of englin posting, jesus fuck it is a circle jerk.

hope you niggers don't own US bonds in the coming 20 years

>>63883444
Domestic prices will be adjusted to international prices, oil companies are not charities.
Rising oil prices are great for the oil companies, bad for the economy, terrible for the population and a death sentence for the politicians currently in power.

>>63883292
1. You ignored what I said in my post about the Saudi populace being guaranteed to revolt if Saudi Arabia sides with Israel in a war the latter started with what's been going on in Gaza.
2. Saudi Arabia and all the gulf states got drubbed by just the Houthis and settled for a ceasefire right before Russia invaded Ukraine. They don't want to get directly involved with the Houthi's backers, even with the U.S. and Israel in direct support.
3. Creating a power vacuum and leaving factions to fight among themselves is how we got IS, in case you forgot.

>>63883097 (OP)
It's a good option because they don't have many other options to retaliate and the only thing the US or the Gulf states will do in response is some kind of air/sea campaign to re-open the strait.
The US isn't going to do a ground campaign in mountainous Iran and waste another 20 years trying to stabilise a country into following the west, and the Gulf states simply don't have the armies to do shit.
Even if the Strait is reopened, Iran is just going to keep lobbing missiles at tankers causing insurance to surge harming oil revenues causing pain to everyone around the world. That kind of pressure will be used to bargain with the US to fuck off and leave them alone.
Anyone thinking or claiming there's going to be a war are fucking retards.

>>63884185
Completely different

Just some free retex for the glowies in the thread: I have two co-workers that are Iranians. Both of them were pretty reasonable guys with takes such as "it's not the Jews it's their government, I even have Jew friends" and "our government is shit, I hate Muslims". Now their mind switched to "Jews are the cancer of civilisation" "Hitler was right and he punished us by leaving some of them alive", "the current government is legit doing self defense and should not surrender".The youngest one of them even punched a Jew in the street and attacked a girl that had a kinda satanic tattoo that looks vaguely like a David star. That sounds a lot like what is happening in Gaza and other shit holes where we bomb the retards and it just creates more retards. Please glowies do your job I'm tired of working amongst aggressive monkeys that won't shut up about Jews. End of the blogpost

>>63884338
Expats that keep watching news from their home countries inevitably turn into fifth column/sleeper cells.

>>63884258
Stay gone phoneposter.

>>63883753
Is Guam OK?

>>63884358
Yeah I think they should get deported and fight for their leader. They always yap about Iran being the greatest nation with the best engineers and now it's worse, they legit told me "the US did nothing we removed everything important from the bunkers" "our air force is hiding safely waiting for the fatal blow" "our missiles are overwhelming the iron dome so bad" "we never target civilians it's just a failure that Israel showed you, it's propaganda". Is it literally over for them ? Is this the current cope for the browns ? I'm not even making shit up I'm a tourist and wanted to discuss it

>>63883104
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_United_States_foreign_policy

>>63884258
>China has a 40 million strong population of unmarried males the rest of their country is going to have to prop up as they age out of the workforce
It truly is an economic time bomb for them
>Russias military has been thoroughly debunked as a world power being dragged into a Quagmire fueled by our scraps from the 80s and 90s
Kek
>Europe are having to band together and are slowly abandoning their national sovereignty in order to compete on a world scale and are so urbanized with dropping birth rates
They have become dependent on absorbing the refugees of the world hilariously erasing their culture to replace them and are bound for civil conflict. They are very much dependent on international conflict to fuel their labor force and it’s a poison that’s slowly killing them like a chemotherapy for a terminally ill patient.
>India are a logistical shit show tied down by religious beliefs
Yawn
>Brazil and South Africa have little to no force projection capability
Not even in also ran territory
>Iran are thoroughly cucked
>Iraq are a puppet state
Meanwhile American military dominance is absurdly evident, our allies are building up their own military forces in order to secure the strangle hold we currently hold over the Pacific battle sphere. No African or Latin American country is considered a world power to begin with. Sorry to break it to you doomer faggot but American supremacy is guaranteed at this point. The biggest threat remaining is China invading Taiwan and we are quickly weaning our dependence on their chips and are well prepared to drag them into a Ukrainian tier quagmire.

>>63883097 (OP)
>What's the deal with everyone disliking them?
Isreal commanded it, the west obeys

If iran tries it, its neighbors and other countries will make the treaty of trianon look like a joke in comparison

>>63883132
Ok, we'll play a game, then: For every ship that's damaged in any way by any caused within 800 miles of the Iranian coastline, we'll slaughter 20,000 Iranian civilians. Targeting civilians is cool with them, right? Great. Then it's a deal. We'll play this game until the world runs out of ships or Iranians.

>>63883359
They could all just go to Russia instead, it's not like the Russians are in a place to be picky about replacing their losses.

>>63883149
That's a good point, it's not as if they can't afford it and as city states, it's not like they need or use any of the land it would cut through.

>>63883290
That's unironically the smartest and best play they could make.

>>63884106
Trump this morning said otherwise:
>EVERYONE, KEEP OIL PRICES DOWN. I’M WATCHING! YOU’RE PLAYING RIGHT INTO THE HANDS OF THE ENEMY. DON’T DO IT!

>>63883097 (OP)
>What's the deal with everyone disliking them?
You can read the wiki page on Iranian foreign relations for an "okay" QRD but here's a few bullet points.

>Morocco
Iran got butthurt at them for sheltering the Shah and funded militia groups against them; Morocco did not appreciate this

>Egypt
Egypt does not appreciate Iran funding terrorist proxies on their border and Iran doesn't appreciate Egypt's attempts to co-exist with Israel

>Afghanistan
Water disputes, refugees and drug smuggling - plus, despite funding them, Iran really doesn't like the Taliban

>Bahrain
Cut ties with Iran over a mob attacking the Saudi diplomatic mission

>India
Nominally good relationship but India does not appreciate Iran's calls for "muh global Jihad", especially in the era of Modi and his Hindu strongman act.

>Iraq
No comment necessary.

>Israel
See above.

>Lebanon
Hezbolllah. 'Nuff said.

>Palestine
Pro-Hamas Palestinians resent how conditional Iranian aid is, anti-Hamas Palestinians resent them for pretty obvious reasons.

>Saudi Arabia
tl;dr Iran resents KSA's alignment with western powers and views them as a bunch of hypocritical degenerates and KSA hates Iran for shitting up the rest of the Islamic world with proxies and intentionally trying to sabotage their western ties. Sunni-Shia feud plays a big role here and Iran and KSA have been in a proxy war for decades.

>Syria
Iran propped up Assad during the SCW, which means that the people and the new government of Syria loathe Iran.

>Jordan
Jordan has been more-or-less hostile towards Iran for the same reasons as KSA,.

the overall tl;dr is that Iran resents any MENA nation being even nominally western-aligned and for their part the rest of MENA doesn't appreciate Iran's liberal support for of militias and terrorist organizations and for chimping out whenever anyone tries to normalize relations with Israel.

>>63885246
Thank you i always like a good run down

>>63883453
>>63883457
>>63884264
So how much Exxon stock do I need to offset this?

>>63883659
>>63883667
>>63883694
someone call bugs

>>63885246
So, once Iran collapses, will the Middle East improve somewhat?

>>63883667
>>63883659
the UAE is too retarded and they aren't allowed to deescalate that conflict

>>63883097 (OP)
>What's the deal with everyone disliking them?
They've literally done nothing but constantly antagonize the other regional powers and use proxy terrorism wherever they could for decades. Surprise surprise, acting like a rabid pitbull makes everyone else want to put you down.

>>63883236
and what do you think they do with all this oil genius ?
They produce shit for the rest of the world to consoooom

>>63883149
Arabs don't have a good track record with large scale construction projects.

>>63885333
it's already priced in

>>63885681
production industry has been pulling out of China for like half a decade anon

>>63883158
>do it directly and watch what happens next.
Boots on the ground as air shit only gets you so far, thus another forever war nobody wanted, oil price rising up making the 2022 inflation and eggs meme pass on as a joke in comparison, resulting in midterms holocaust?
Iran would be dumb to not take advantage of this. Would be funny to see regime change not in Iran but in the US first.

>>63885681
ok? it still hurts their economy

>>63883397
>jews
probably a good amount assuming the us gets further involved in the conflict and they may get political support from the gulf states
>ukraine
not at all really, sure iran is not busy making drones for russia anymore but its offset by russian oil being more profitable both by higher oil prices and lack of competition in the black market discount oil market

>>63885714
Where to ? Vietnam or other neighboring countries to China ( with companies owned by China, so basically China ) , India ( lmao ) ?

>>63885800
Yeah but as we saw with the retarded tariffs and covid the whole world commerce is interconnected. What hurts them will hurt us indirectly.

>>63883097 (OP)
its a cope tactic to pretend like if they close the strait they can definitely, totally withstand a carrier strike group or two. nevermind that the CSG's could just bomb the shit out of them from international waters.

>>63885902
>Where to ?
okay so you're just willfully ignorant
>companies owned by china
you have no idea where manufacturing had been relocating to for tears but you know regional shell company operators?

>>63885913
It's a really hard time to be a brownoid currently, cut him some slack

>>63883097 (OP)
Yeah, Iran isn't going to piss off China and India for no reason. They need the money.

>>63885913
> proceed to not give a simple example
thanks for proving my point

>>63885954
I'm sure your internet is substandard from whatever foreign shithole you're living in but that's no excuse to be this pathetically helpless.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/betsyatkins/2023/08/07/manufacturing-moving-out-of-china-for-friendlier-shores/

https://www.investopedia.com/manufacturing-already-moved-out-of-china-now-where-will-it-go-11711407

Now, get the fuck off my board, turdie.

>>63885909
Houdinis did fare well all things considered. And they still exist despite being bombed. Bombing only gets you so far.
All Iran has to do is unleash good old magnetic mines straight out of WWII, and no tanks will dare to cross. No company will insure the, it's ust how it is.

>>63885987
>https://www.investopedia.com/manufacturing-already-moved-out-of-china-now-where-will-it-go-11711407

you're not good at reading comprehension are you ?
>Many U.S. companies have refocused supply chains to Vietnam, Thailand and other countries in the region, partly because labor costs have risen in China over the decades.

South east asia is China's backyard ( they are the ones building the machinery and providing probably a vast majority of the raw material )

India is such a shithole that tech companies like Apple are quite unhappy with the quality of the production there

But keep convincing yourself that this will only bother China if that puts your little brain at peace lmao

>>63886602
>CHINA OWNS ALL OF SEA
Whatever you say Chang, run along now

>>63886608
>t. can't build ships

>>63886602

>>63886602
>>63886609
So which latin american shithole are you posting from

>>63886602
Oh man if only the United States had a nation nearby full of people that can manufacture things for cheap, hey Jose stop assembling that Ford and help me figure out where we can move manufacturing to.

>>63886602
>China owns and supplies Vietnamese and Thai manufacturing
Boy that's a claim, surely you've got a source right?

>>63883097 (OP)
I don't think the US is going to blockade Iranian oil unless they pull the fucking retarded move of trying to close the strait themselves. It won't work, and more importantly it's risking the loss of one of Iran's main revenue sources.
>Oh but the chinks will bail them out
The chinese want Iranian oil, which flows out of that fucking strait. They want Iran to sit the fuck down and give them oil.

>>63886637
>what are "secondary tariffs"
i mean it's such common knowledge that Bessant singled out Vietnam for special treatment since Biden didn't close that loophole.

>>63886657
That isn't a source anon.

>>63886657
isn't that more to do with transshipment than anything else

>>63886609
>>63886602
>>63885954
>>63885902
>>63885681
when you think about it, it's so fucking sad being a chink shill just because you're some broke turdie that blames the shit hand life dealt him on American cans out of pure envy and spite. godspeed, useful brown idiot.

>>63886667
not just transshipment no, le crafty chinoise just set up shop in vietnam to bypass tariffs. vietnam thought it was great to employ their people, but Bessant wasn't having it.

>>63886674
>"chink shill" living rent free in his mind
Tang Dynasty can't stop growing.

>>63886687
but that's literally what you are. brown, poor, living in some shithole where you can't own guns and dickriding some awful autocratic dump entering a fatal demographic crisis. i feel sorry for you.

>>63886681
truly the least retarded one

>>63883097 (OP)
Yeah, an act of war against puppet states of a country that just attacked Iran unprovoked. I'd say they are well within their right to do that, retard.

>>63886701
impressive concoction of crap, now drink it after the pills

>>63883097 (OP)
Everyone is already against them, like Russia. Why not use your natural geography?

>>63886719
prove me wrong. post hand, outlet and gun.

>>63886721
no skin in the game here but really the person asking is supposed to post this, otherwise the other guy isn't going to bother

>Episode 563 of "Chinksect cannot prove he is hasguns" airing now
Oh boy how will this one end I wonder.

>>63883459
>A spectacular series of plays by progenitors of the multipolar world.
>>63883504
>truly, the multipolar world is collapsing, mostly due to the actions of the people who claimed to want the multipolar world
Well, yes, the multipolar world is collapsing, but I think this also *is* the multipolar world in practice and reality, it's just not what people who thought it'd be some kind of "order" expected.

You're describing nonlinear dynamics, like an unstable ecosystem in which small changes can have unpredictable, second-order effects, particularly affecting "weak links" in the chain of life (or the "weak links" in the international system). This can be positive and negative. Like reintroducing wolves into a national park decades after they were hunted down can be positive because they eat the elk which were overgrazing. Or you could introduce toads into Australia to control the sugar cane beetles, but turns out the toads have a toxic chemical that kills native predators so it crashes the native species.

>>63884376
Iranian state T.V. is talking like that constantly right now, and that Israel has been destroyed by their missiles 10x over, and yes it's cope:
https://x.com/HilzFuld/status/1937121800531620275

>>63886728
stop deflecting and prove me wrong

>>63886721
you can find pics of my hand (>>> desuarchive) and that's all you'll get from me, menhera

>>63886739
haha, noguns faggot

>>63886738
whatever bitch enjoy your date with the chink

>>63886739
> >>>desuarchive
This is so fucking pathetic, it doesn't even know how to properly chan archive lmfao

>>63884384
>no u
Lmao the difference is nobody can do anything about us so they have to kiss the ring, dumb goatfucker.

>>63886737
>https://x.com/HilzFuld/status/1937121800531620275
"I say vranyo, you say taqiyya, it's the universal language of brown."

>>63886728
China, Iran and their shitskin sycophants tongue my anus

>>63883097 (OP)
>What's the deal with everyone disliking them
It's theocracy ran by extremist who finance other extremists that actively make the world a worse place across the middle east, is (apparently) hated by a big chunk of its own citizens, and constantly makes calls for the destruction of America and Israel while wondering why no one wants them to have nukes.

>>63884338
Weird, are these made up friends recent expats? The ones I know who descended from expats who fled after '79 have positive views on this whole thing.

>>63883349

>>63886779
see THATS more like it

>>63886779
>perfect airshit bore diameters

>>63886598
Houthis are a dispersed militia group, Iran is an organized military and government that is also thoroughly infiltrated
Israel and the US could legitimately kill the entirety of the ministers of Iran's govt, the Ayatollah and obliterate the rest of the military's force projection and they'd be powerless to stop it.

>>63883158
I'll be chewing gum and waiting

>>63886766
Neither can you do anything to others (at least the ones with nukes). Kiss the RV, dogfucker

>>63884148
That's why you have land based weapons to do the blocking. Missile spam anyone?

>>63884516
But two can play at that game. And Iran is far more experienced. The game will be played until the world runs out of civilians or Iran their missiles

>>63886836
A missile a day keeps the cargo ships at bay. All it takes to keep the pressure up regardless of how many leaders get decapitated. The hydra grows another head, the body keeps launching attacks.

Just two more air campaigns.

>>63886836
>Israel and the US could legitimately kill the entirety of the ministers of Iran's govt, the Ayatollah and obliterate the rest of the military's force projection
And then what?
That doesn't solve anything

>>63886701
>Mutt calling everyone else brown
Oh the ironing. You are everything you decry, the only difference is that you have guns to shoot yourself (and schoolchildren, knowing you freaks) with. You should try having an argument instead of a gun next time, you are not special for owning a shitrod.

>>63888302
>4chan filename
oh no no no no no no

>>63888308
Where do you think you are, Reddit?
Eat lead, but you've clearly done that already

>>63886766
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/a_hit_dog_will_holler#English

>>63885405
nta but my feeling is that we'll see tensions between Turkey and Saudi Arabia over who gets to be hegemon of the Asian part of the islamic world. This is probably an improvement, but you can never tell.

>>63888302
Who's gun is that, cuz it isnt yours (brown hand tho)

>>63883097 (OP)
>le act of war
Stop being retarded, real life international politics is not constrained by your gay rules. Countries ignore their own laws and treaties all the time and see what other nations will let them get away with.

The companies and insurers that run these tankers will also make their own risk decisions.

>>63888136
First off
>Iran can threaten anything besides strictly local waters
lol

Secondly Iran will run out of missiles first, because we'll saturation bomb everything that even remotely looks like one or a launch platform

>>63883114
>US would put in place freedom of navigation operations for commercial shipping through the strait.
They could but it is Yemen all over again where even with strong US presence the danger of a shore launched drone or missile remains.

>>63885405
>once Iran collapses, will the Middle East improve somewhat?
That's the neat part. It won't.
It'll get worse.