Thoughts on the harrier?

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oh shit for real?

It blows my mind that these people keep leaking on war thunder instead of an actual sim like DCS.

>>63883856
Lower bar of entry and dcs models ir seekers and radar objectively worse.

It's not like the russian handlers at gaijin can do anything with it tho

>>63883856
I havent played DCS but apparently war thunder has a better simulation of missile mechanics, flares, irccm, radar, notching etc, its a shame though that the gamemodes in war thunder are dogshit

>>63883831 (OP)
Isnt the harrier retired by just about everyone at this point?

>>63883891
I can think of one. The Cola Wars were brutal

>>63883856
Because Warthunder players are competitive shitters and will do literally anything to grant themselves an advantage or try and have an opponent's strong vehicle nerfed.

>>63883896
pepsi points?

>>63883831 (OP)
>le warthunder leak
when was the last time these "leaks" werent a big fucking nothingburger

>>63883902
It was a promotion thing in the 90s, I think. That's a screenshot of the ad for it. A guy actually got the 7 million points and demanded Pepsi deliver a Harrier. He took them to court when they refused. Court ruled the ad was hyperbole and they didn't have to honor it.

>>63883831 (OP)
it's a fucking nothingburger and the files have been out in the open for over 10 years now, hardly a fucking leak

https://files.catbox.moe/lxbqcl.pdf
https://files.catbox.moe/pb3nbu.pdf

>>63883831 (OP)
Fuck Eagle Dynamics and fuck Razbam.

>>63883882
Idk about DCS, but many mechanics are inherently broken, since they have to fit in a F2P game whose purpose is to frustrate players to generate revenue. The game itself has a hard time allowing proper realistic jet combat, part due to engine limitations, part due to matches setup. In the end those mechanics, like any stat, is as realistic as it suits devs. Fun example: a Starfighter can reach its design speed of Mach 2.2, arguably its only strength, but to do that it needs to fly in a constant orbit or it would hit the map borders; trying to turn at that speed however bleeds speed like hell for some stupid reason, so the orbit must be as big as the map making it practically useless.

>>63883906
The biggest leak I can remember was the chink tungsten penetrator and that was 3 years ago.

>>63883906
Your mom was leaking pretty bad when she was released to me.

>>63883902
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_v._Pepsico,_Inc.

>>63883831 (OP)
I wish redditors would stop with this forced meme. There has never been a leak of actual classified documents in warthunder.

>>63883856
>actual sim like DCS
lmao

>>63883882
The thing is that DCS is running on fucking ancient base code and they rely on third party studios to create content, coupled with a community that has little interest in playing airquake and is content with user created missions and campaigns.
It's a clusterfuck of perverse incentives.

>>63883848

>>63884014
False

>>63883831 (OP)
Do we still use harriers?

>>63884673
One more year in USMC.

>>63884659
All these "leaks" are intentional and you'll notice, all pertain to heavily outdated equipment.

>>63884014
There have but it's been Chinese documents.

>>63884693
>>63884659
>>63884800
not a single truly classified document has ever been released, it's always declassified stuff you could find on the wayback machine.

>>63883914
>the ad was hyperbole
Bullshit that is straight up a false advertisement

>>63883856
>actual sim
lmao

>>63883831 (OP)
>play arcade mode exclusively at lower tiers
>make a bazillion silver lions because matches end fast
>everyone can see each other so I don't have to worry about hackers/cheaters like in realistic mode
Life is good.

>>63884848
That's me. Low BR in arcade is much more fun. You have whacky vehicles and more fun vehicles and it isn't 'Ooops you got one hit killed by an ATGM from 10km away' or 'Ooops a helicopter popped up behind a hill you're dead lol'. I have an IS-7 and I haven't got a single kill with it afaik. You just die. Because you're facing vehicles with ATGM.

>>63884869
Forgot to add my favourite vehicle currently is the KV-7 (U-13).

>>63884837
The exact wording was that the monetary value of 7 million Pepsi points doesn't come anywhere close to the cost of 1 Harrier so Pepsi couldn't be expected to buy one for a customer.

>>63884827
The chang dart >>63883963 was a classified document, though it wasn't a very serious leak either, ODIN had the penetration of the dart into RHA, so the info was likely already known

>>63883831 (OP)
>Thoughts on the harrier?
I was pleased when we got rid of them, in RAF service it was shite with a feeble weapons load, short range and killed loads of pilots. The SHAR was handy though.

>>63883882
If anyone figures out a war thunder VR setting that lets me actually see enemy aircraft further than 100m let me know.

>>63883831 (OP)
10/10 aesthetics
1/10 practicality

>>63884632
>gif
...Did MS poach the Parsoft devs?

>>63885744
>1/10 practicality
The concept of the harrier is unremarkable now. One big inlet and jet engine that blows into four adjustable vents making it like a tiltrotor quadcopter. Impressive RCS electronics for active stability in the era before personal computers. And the harrier does work.

The F-35 system is just a little simpler and more efficient because the clutched lift fan can be designed and geared for VTOL speeds only and the main engine nozzle vectors as a primary control method rather than its thrust.