If you think about it, if Iran puts high level nuclear waste on its missiles mixed with the explosive the results would be extremely destructive.
If they separate the U238 and U235 from their nuclear waste (which they could do using simple chemical methods) they could load missiles with the rest and explode them over a city and render it completely uninhabitable for many years.
This is a threat as serious as nuclear weapons in my opinion.

>>63884605 (OP)
They'd have to dig it out of the mountain first

They lack any way to disperse the radioactive material effectively. Even if you detonated a dirty bomb in Manhattan youll kill maybe 1-2k people max.

>>63884608
They moved it and the equipment out first and the attack was totally ineffective anyway.

>>63884612
No evidence of that.

>>63884605 (OP)
Iran could do the same thing with a chemical weapon and actually kill people rather than give a bunch of people cancer.

>>63884605 (OP)
No.
If there were willing to accept the massive political backlash of a dirty bomb they would use chemical / biological weapons to produce orders of magnitude more casualties.

>>63884611
The hiroshima bomb had 64kg of uranium. I bet they could thrown 100 times that weight in pure nuclear waste (cesium 137, strontioum 90,...) over a city and make it uninhabitable.
If you throw it over Manhattan you would not kill a lot of people, but nobody could live in Manhattan anymore.

>>63884623
Well, but it is as serious of a threat as a nuclear weapon then.

>>63884630
Correct, neither are real threats and the last 20 inspections showed Iran isn't enriching over 5%.

>>63884612
lmao, cope at best. They wouldve had to do it well before israel started bombing them.

It is a foolish option that would give legitimacy to counterattacks using not only nuclear weapons but also chemical weapons.

>>63884627
Iran cant make a plutonium bomb so best they can do is dusty Uranium in a localized area.

>>63884630
Chemical weapons are serious shit and people are rightly really fucking spooked about them. Another way you know that this shit about Iran being a real danger isn't real, if they were seriously set on using WMDs to destroy Israel they wouldn't need fucking nukes, the thing that makes chemical weapons scary is that they're cheap and orders of magnitude easier to produce than nukes.

So why even bother with nukes? It's not like people are MORE afraid of chemical weapons than nukes, it's not like they'd get in MORE trouble, they'd get in the same or less trouble, so why not do it? The answer is clearly that they have no intention of doing it, they could have put VX in those rockets.

It probably in their war plans as a last ditch option. You could airburst it over the city and have it rain down over a huge area. It would contaminate Tel Aviv for many years and forcibly displace the population (much like they've done to the Palestinians) if even one missile got through, so overall it's an extremely based thing to do, and I was kind of hoping that they would.

However the retaliation would be devastating as more countries would probably join the effort and be determined to completely raze Iran to the ground in turn, so it wouldn't be done until after other options like closing the strait of Hormuz were tried and failed first, when they have nothing else to lose.

>>63884605 (OP)
Radiological weapons are the margarine of CRBN.
Drawing all the heat of traditional WMDs while being really shit in comparison to actual WMDs.
There's a reason pretty much all dirty bomb scenarios focus on non-state actors using stolen material.
Because making and using one as a state is too stupid even for Iran

>>63884605 (OP)
>they could load missiles with the rest and explode them over a city and render it completely uninhabitable for many years.
And then get glasses by real nukes in return?

>>63884737
you mean glassed?
my point is that they having nuclear waste stored is a very similar threat as they having nuclear weapons

>>63884746
It's only a threat if you don't understand weapons & geopolitics.
Try this shit on facebook because on /k/ we aren't going to be convinced dirty bombs are a valid threat from a nation state.

>>63884718
Tell me you know nothing about how radiation or the risks posed by fallout work without actually saying it.

>>63884612

>>63884753
Sure i am going to go to facebook and post this shit....

>>63884779
True, the boomers are already ride or die for Israel so no point shilling there.

>>63884612
>They ruined their own centrifuges themselves
Cool

>>63884605 (OP)
Dirty bombs aren't shit, you mongoloid.

>>63884605 (OP)
Why would Iran do that if it means the political leadership would be targeted? Thus far they have been happy to threaten the West from the relative safety of not being in the crosshairs of the bombing campaign.

>>63884926
Wow we have Shakespeare here.

>>63884962
I am not saying that they would do it, but as far as politics go, is the same threat as nuclear weapons and nobody is mentioning it.
Remember Netanyahu with the picture of the bomb at the Un? He could have brought the picutre of a nuclear waste bin too.

>>63884991
>is the same threat as nuclear weapons and nobody is mentioning it
Why not anon? What are they hiding? I bet they aren't talking about nerve agents either.
You are shilling for bullshit war justification after Israel bombed the negotiators days before negotiations.

>>63885022
Idk why. I am not shilling for war but why do you think they are not talking about it?

>>63885022
It's debatable if it could be called a negotiation after the first meeting since the sticking point was something Iran was not going to back down from. Both parties knew military action was going to be the outcome because of this.

>>63885060
>why do you think they are not talking about it
Because it's so stupid a lot of teh general public could call out how stupid it is.
Better to stick with noooks for consent manufacturing as they have been in the media for the last 3 years when talking about Russia.

>>63885064
Obama got a deal, while Trump might have had a harder time after canning the deal then trying to renew it I think any competent admin could have gotten it done.

idiots thinking the 400kg of enriched uranium is the only shit that they have that could be used as a dirty bomb...

they have an actual nuclear powerplant which means they have tons and tons of usable waste

but it is a fucking shit weapon

you want to kill people in war, not 10 years after it.

>>63884694
this desu
chemical weapons are genuinely scary, due to proliferation concerns. It's stupidly easy to make something like VX, even Aum Shinrikyo managed.
You can also run these sorts of syntheses in virtually any existing fine chemical plant, hell even just pilot scale is more than enough to produce a staggeringly terrifying amount of VX.

>>63885174
Combine this with the fact that intercepting the missile in the terminal phase as Iron Dome does doesn't help at all.

>>63884694
>>63885174
i just saw the vx gas in wikipedia....
i am about to shit my pants.

Why bother with a dirty bomb? They vastly outnumber Israel they could just amass an army and do a ground invasion and wipe them out before their air and artillery can get everyone. Just overrun them, zerg rush style

>>63885218
Israel lacks the force projection to invade Iran, Iran lacks the force projection to invade Israel, Israel has a pet America that will do the invading for them.

>>63885218
You should look into where Iran and Israel are on a map

>>63885218
Iraq is in the middle, with all the Us bases in it.

>>63885218
Obvious geographical problems aside, I'm sure Israel would love for them to start massing themselves for easy missile strikes.

>>63885218
>march across iraqi kurdistan with iranian army with no air cover
I wish they would

>>63885218
Are you actually retarded anon.
At least check a map.

>>63884605 (OP)
>"if you think about it"

Nothing is what we share in your thought youre a pretentious lame faggot and i am not

>>63884769

You're clearly a total dumbshit retard whose fooled yourself into thinking you're smart enough to talk shop with me about radiation. Please. You think it's not within their abilities to produce a significant amount of Caesium 137, Strontium 90, Cobalt 60, or Plutonium 238? they have reactors and even if they didn't you can pry incredibly dangerous isotopes like Cesium-137 out of oldschool radiotherapy machines in scrapyards. Or pay a Slav to get an RTG from an old Soviet lighthouse .Fuck, even if it was just elemental Uranium that poses minimal direct radiation risk (as opposed to, say, powdered Cesium chloride) the civilian population doesn't know anything about radiation. They will not live somewhere that was dirty bombed if there was even the slightest increase in background radiation. The theoretical risk is overblown, but the mass panic and economic devastation would absolutely be real.

>>63884979
Kek

>>63885218
My nigga have you ever even looked at a map of the middle east?

>>63884979
More than one. Unless he posts alot alot.

>>63884605 (OP)
We go over this once a goddamn week anon. Granted, it's more entertaining than another Ukraine thread but it's still getting old. Dirty bombs are a meme. The safest way to dispose of one is to bury it. The second safest way to dispose of it is to detonate it. The most dangerous thing that you can do with it is leave it intact. Detonating it takes an extremely dangerous amount of contamination and dilutes it to a much less harmful state. ("Dilution is the solution to pollution," as we like to say in the trade.)

A state actor would never use one because it would trigger a nuclear response. A rogue actor would never use one because they'd die during the assembly process, assuming that they acquired enough material to make one nasty enough to actually significantly contaminate an area.

Again: dirty bombs are an effective terror weapon against ignorant people and are useful for making an area uninhabitable for anything from a couple of decades to a century or three, but they're no good at all for killing people. You'd be better off with a conventional warhead and a ground burst if you're doing that. And again, as a state actor, if you're going to use a weapon that's going to prompt a nuclear retaliation, it had better be worth it.

>cobalt bomb gets around the radiation problem but you need a nuclear bomb to make it work
>there are some isotopes that are much nastier and would work much better than co-60, but they're on the exotic side and have other issues, so forgot your polonium-210 bomb, ain't gonna happen, not even for the russians and they're the only ones that make the shit

>>63884605 (OP)
>if Iran puts high level nuclear waste on its missiles mixed with the explosive the results would be extremely destructive.
Why?

>>63884612
So your saying the Israelis can bomb it now

>>63884605 (OP)
I mean, they could, and Tehran would get glassed as a result. If they're feeling froggy they oughta jump.

>>63885285
The thing about radioactive particles is they tend to emit radiation which makes them very easy to find and clean up
All dirty bomb really is is a warhead woth less explosive material by volume than a regular warhead

>>63888544
A more realistic weapon of mass destruction would be chemical or biological in nature. The most advanced chemical weapons only require picograms of the agent to be inhaled to be immediately lethal. At that level, you would not even see the chemical weapon attack taking place. Supposedly the official story is that Iran has banned chemical weapons, but there are claims to the contrary from western intelligence agencies.

Iran also has the capability to produce biological weapons, but in the current situation, biological weapon utilization is exclusively in a soft use-case scenario and not in a total warfare use-case scenario as any country rapidly vaccinating their population in preparation for an attack is extremely obvious to espionage and intelligence from every country and the likelihood that military allies would be negatively effected by their use is a strong limiting factor for their utilization. Not to mention, if you don't have a demographic mismatch of old to young populations- there's no reason to use a soft biological weapon like COVID. That was exclusively useful for China and I'm sure they had already passed a vaccine recipe onto their allies before releasing it. Russia had a vaccine suspiciously soon.

Not to mention, if you didn't take precautions such as vaccinating yourself and your allies from your genetically engineered virus, bacteria or parasite, it would essentially be a kamikaze attack that could wipe out the entire human population and no one in the world really wants that- not even the most extreme Muslims or even Kim Jong Un himself. No one wants to wipe literally themselves and everyone out in a suicide attack. Individual Muslim extremists might be convinced to do that, but not the Shah's, Mullahs or Imams.

I'm sure this is actually about chemical weapons and the reason why the strait of Hormuz hasn't been closed yet is because Iran threatened to blanket Israel.

>>63884694
>MORE
>>63885174
>>63885191
>>63885211

Ali Khameini issued a fatwa specitically prohibiting the use of chemical or biological weapons, which Saddam had used against Iran during the Iran-Iraq war. People point to this fatwa as evidence that Iran would never ever build nuclear weapons, except the fatwa was deliberately ambiguous about nuclear weapons (though explicitly forbade chemical and biological weapons).

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/iransource/iran-nuclear-weapons-fatwa-khamenei/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Khamenei%27s_fatwa_against_nuclear_weapons

>>63888740
There's no reason why Trump and Netanyahu would announce that there will be a ceasefire so soon after a direct confrontation involving long range ballistic missiles directly targeting major Israeli cities. Trump probably had a plan for Iran attempting to close the strait, but he probably definitely didn't have a plan of Iran directly threatening that the next wave of missiles will have nerve agents onboard.

The Iranian missile attacks had to be much more devastating than what info is being released and propagated. I saw far too many videos of Iranian missiles making it through missile defenses for there to not be more deaths involved in these attacks. Why would the U.S and Israel clamp down on such information in a critical time? Probably because the decision to fully commit to war has not been made and some sort of deal is actually genuinely still on the table.

Decapitating Iranian leaders and offering to negotiate with their juniors certainly intimidates the latter into being more open to whatever it is you're offering- but it also might backfire. I'm guessing it backfired, Israel wants Iran off the map- that much is clear. They have the most to benefit from an occupation of Iran. The U.S has the least.

I'm guessing the missile salvos were simply the Iranians making a statement that if they are pushed to do so, the next salvos will have nerve agents as a payload instead of explosives. Which would be devastating to Israeli civilians and anyone caught in the attacks and certainly cause Israel to commit to at least a limited nuclear response and embolden the U.S and allies to commit to a full scale war and mobilization.

However, such a threat could potentially give Israel and the U.S pause and may provide the Iranians some small leverage. "peace" is coming far too quickly for it to make sense from a geopolitical perspective. Israel has been working to take down Iran for a long, long time. Something like that must have happened.

>>63884605 (OP)
>Iran becoming GLA IRL
Grim.

>>63888774
Why are we supposed to believe that an old fatwa would stop them? Chemical weapons certainly don't allow them to reach parity, especially considering the potential for salted nukes. However they do close some of that capability gap and they are the next best thing to put on their missiles, which their missile program is not immature, Russia has actually bought missiles from them and not always the other way around.. that should say something about their effect.

The many hundreds of videos captured of Iranian missiles in action also convince me that they are at least somewhat effective. Not particularly surgical, but effective as a terror weapon. And guess what else goes great on generally inaccurate missiles, many of which get intercepted? Chemical weapons.

Everything points towards that fatwa being bullshit.

>>63884605 (OP)
>This is a threat as serious as nuclear weapons in my opinion.

The biggest problem with your theory is that dirty bombs are functionally considered the same as nuclear weapons from a geopolitical perspective so the consequences Iran would suffer (mainly the wholesale annihilation of the current Iranian state) would be extreme to say the least.

>>63888784
it seems more likely to me that agreeing to a ceasefire was one of trump's conditions for helping israel with the b2s. even trump has limited political capital when it comes to pursuing war in the middle east, and he's really consistently got a hardon for the idea of himself as The Dealmaker and a power broker. israel's incentives and trump's incentives aren't actually going to be the same

>>63884694
Sure, but the counter to 99% of chemical weapons is
>close your windows
>wait for the wind to carry the cloud away
Especially when Iran can't manage to get more than a handful missiles through.
It's just not worth the response.

>>63890105
A thousand chemical weapon warheads coming down on major Israeli population centers would kill an unimaginable amount of people, especially if they were 5th gen chemical weapons where you can't even see them in the air and you inhale a picogram and die in a few seconds. Not to mention, "allowing them to blow away" is not an option. You meant to say "allow them to blow away to the next city" chemical weapons don't go away, you have to clean them up or hope they get diluted but 5th gen chemical weapons will always be dangerous because it takes so little to be inhaled for you to die from them.

It was more than a handful, I saw a video where the Israeli's ran out of interceptors and got pummeled in the same quarter mile / half mile circle like 20 times. I don't know what the Iranians were targeted there or if that was an important area or if it had a lot of people in it or what, but saying "handful" is delusional.

>>63884615
>>63884640
Having multiple nuclear sites is evidence they didn't move everything into the bunker beforehand let alone to move out. But when you have early notice of incoming attacks it's a no brainer

>>63884605 (OP)
Best Kek.
>target Dimona with 4-5 HE-warhead missiles
>followed by 20 with U235 dust &HE burster charge waeheads to guarantee the whole country is contaminated
>blame all the effects on the IDF stockpiling U235 and collapse of their eeeevil nuclear weapons program

Ok, so what is stopping Iran from buying a cheap crop duster and loading it with uranium water or vx gas or something? Surely they will be blown up but what's stopping them from looking like a tourist then a terrorist?

>>63891141
God damnit where was my picture

>>63891141
That's something that they would have a proxy do, and then blame it on them. However the outcome of such an attack would be multifold. That's not an operation that you conduct in a half-hearted manner. That would have to be part of a much larger operation, and air spaces in the region are going to be tight, there would have to be cover for that operation- you would have to somehow prevent espionage and reconnaissance from discovering it. It's not a good idea because the air space is under tight control and there would be eyes on it and knowledge of it likely before it was conducted. These are the types of things espionage, intelligence and reconnaissance carefully observe for and conduct operations to prevent in the first place.

What would be more effective would be to coordinate with the Houthi's, Hezbollah and Hamas simultaneously while also launching chemical weapons on long range ballistic missiles and drones- while Hezbollah and Hamas attack simultaneously to overwhelm Israeli and American air defense systems.

That's not going to happen though, because an obvious outcome would be a nuclear response from Israel- maybe even from the United States an operation like that would be conducted as a suicidal attack because strategists and thinkers in leadership and the military aren't confident that they can fend off a ground invasion of Iran, which wouldn't happen, because the most you can do to Iran is bombings, air strikes and missile strikes, drone strikes, etc.

The entire country is mountains and there aren't really any good places to launch a mountain invasion from that don't involve chokepoints and not having enough armor to support your men. You aren't going to get armor in or through and it would be an invasion largely supported by what little artillery you can get in range, bombing runs, air strikes, drone strikes, etc.

The primary question in that equation is how well Iran has set up defenses for such an invasion.

>>63891207
cont

If Iran has set up good defenses, complex bunker systems- good chokepoints, good positions for their large armored vehicle fleet and artillery to defend from. Then there's no reason to think that the Americans would ever successfully be able to take and hold Iranian land.

If Iran has successfully set up defenses for their strategic defensive points- they will be hardened and resistant to American air superiority. Even if Israel and the U.S have complete control of Iranian air space- it will be a game of whack a mole and using bunker busters to take out defensive positions that are giving our infantry forces trouble.

In order to actually take control of Iran, you must actually send soldiers in and conduct an occupation- otherwise you won't be able to get them to do what you want or control territory to stop them from doing anything else.

We only have so many MOPs, we only have so many bunker busters and we also only have so many soldiers to die for an invasion before it becomes ludicrously unpopular with the American public. We've just barely pulled out of Afghanistan and limited our forces in the middle east for a strategic pivot towards the pacific.

The Iranians have a home field advantage in that they know their mountains, they both have unconventional and conventional military forces and a stockpile of over 2000 ballistic missiles and many many more of drones- so much so that they can afford to sell them to Russia. I would be interested to know how many MANPAD's systems they have in stock and how many air defense systems they have left after recent fighting.

The reason why B2's were effective was due to their stealth tech and I'm sure a lot of good intel and recon. If it's other air frames they are going to have a harder time against Iranian air defenses if they don't possess good stealth capabilities or countermeasures like good chaff and flares- but even then that's still risky to rely on those countermeasures.

it's pointless because only nuclear weapons are an effective deterrent, not dirty bombs, not chemical or biological weapons

>>63891252
cont.

Suffice it to say, pic related is obviously not a fun place to fight in. I know that anyone taking these factors into consideration is going to advise against an invasion- no matter how much the Israeli's might want us to conduct one for them.

No question that we will be able to gain air superiority at some point- potentially after some costly mistakes involving high dollar equipment. But even when we do gain that air superiority.. the chokepoints, the bunkers, the height advantage, the amount of munitions necessary to gain the strategic advantage for advancement.

Iran has artillery too, not stockpiled enough considering its western artillery pieces, but they do have MLRS, they do have drone capabilities and they do have ballistic missile capabilities. It's going to fucking suck and to fight and win a war like that requires undying loyalty, peak propaganda efficiency and a populace that is willing to walk into a potential meat grinder.

All of this is an attempt to get the Iranian populace to revolt, but the guys with the guns in Iran are religious zealots loyal to the mullahs, imams, etc. There is a reason why they were unarmed riots and not armed uprisings targeting military and government in Iran.. it's a bad idea and it's stupid to invade them, IMO.

>>63891252
>The reason why B2's were effective was due to their stealth tech and I'm sure a lot of good intel and recon. If it's other air frames they are going to have a harder time against Iranian air defenses if they don't possess good stealth capabilities or countermeasures like good chaff and flares- but even then that's still risky to rely on those countermeasures.
?chatgpt
The iranian airdefenses got Whacked like epstein lmao,

This is worth pondering. There are things as bad in terms of casualties and future habitability than nuclear bombs. Besides the aforementioned dirty bomb, chemical weapons can be *nasty*, VX and similar. Even worse worse potentially figure out how to mass produce infective prions you could render anywhere uninhabitable for at least year with a dusting.

Also seems to me there's a lot of cargo cultism to the idea a nuke needs to go on a long range missile. North Korea would nuke every coastal America city tomorrow if it planned for it in advance a little bit either just on commercial ships, of worst case via torpedoes. Missile defence is becoming a think, UUV defence is basically non existent.

>>63884605 (OP)
Clear Chinese Shill OP

>>63890174
>5th gen chemical weapons
>picogram
Tell me about the chemical weapon generations and what 5th gen means in this context my brown friend.

>>63888784
If Iran uses Nerve agents in their weapons Israel will simply nuke Iran in response.

You are a propagandist poster trying to go "GUYS ACTUALLY IRAN WON ISRAEL IS TOTALLY SCARED OF THEM!!!!"

>>63884630
no dirty bombs are kind of a meme

>>63891440
Propaganda posters don't exist on /k/ no one cares what a small niche community of military enthusiasts thinks or does unless it comes to their willingness to enlist. That's what /k/ is a niche community that contributes a small number of people to military enlistment. That would be the only purpose of propagandists on /k/. /pol/ and other boards are upstream from culture, not /k/ so no, I'm not a propagandist, I'm unemployed and don't support the idea that we should go fuck around in the sandbox for another 30 years.

>If Iran uses Nerve agents in their weapons Israel will simply nuke Iran in response.
Yeah, retard, that's what I said in >>63891207 you don't even read other peoples posts and you reply to them anyway, you are a troglodyte.

>>63891432
>Tell me about the chemical weapon generations and what 5th gen means in this context
I'm actually completely English, ethnically. American culturally. Anyways, 5th generation chemical weapons were spearheaded by the Russians and incredibly dangerous chemical weapons involve VX, nerve agents. These attack the nervous system and kill you very quickly, other very dangerous agents include chemical weapons that attack the lungs. Picograms are the LD50 of a lot of these advanced chemical warfare agents, that means the particle will be so small that you will not see them, especially if they are dispersed over a great distance. The LD50 is the amount necessary to be a lethal dose of the agent, the LD50 for advanced chemical weapons is in measurements as small as picograms.

The delivery method would be on a missile and I would assume that a powdered variant that can be dusted and carried by air currents would be the most effective- but I'm not an expert on chemical weapons and I doubt that you are either so we are really just 2 retards talking shit on a gun autism imageboard. Maybe they would try aerosolized variants as well, maybe some chemicals are only stable and effective as aerosols as opposed to powders.

>>63891464
>I'm actually completely English, ethnically. American culturally.
So you're American.

>>63891378
Iranian air defenses don't have the capability to accurately display the radar cross section of a B2 stealth bomber. It's fuckin small, like the size of a large bird or a basketball or something. You wouldn't be able to tell it apart from anything else and I doubt they have the radar installations with the capabilities necessary to properly identify and track it, let alone target it correctly.

I don't pretend to know shit about a highly classified military operation like midnight hammer. It's easy to just say "oh lol Israel took out all of their air defenses in one attack" even though we don't actually have access to the verifiable facts of that claim.

I'm not some knuckle dragging retard that just takes what any mainstream state media says at face value. It's all propaganda and it doesn't matter who it's coming from. We will know the facts in months or years, not in days. It's entirely possible that intelligence on where installations are could be shaky. Things can be moved, hidden or a straight up decoy. Not saying that that's what happened, but its okay take CNN and FOX with a grain of salt.

>>63891432
Most everything I know about chemical weapons came form this video: https://youtu.be/lr-Sr2dfXzI you should watch it, it is quite enlightening.

>>63884627
They can't and that's why this is stupid. Not even enough.

CAPTCHA: nn0rk

>>63891141
>>63891148
fentanyl or anthrax would be much more practical

KEK

>>63891535
>fentanyl
I find it fascinating how much the American psyche has been traumatized by propaganda, thinking that Fentanyl is anywhere near as dangerous as any actual chemical weapon.

>>63885211
While it may not be green as shown in The rock, it is about as nasty as they say.

>>63884722
aren't radioactive materials' origins traceable too?

>>63885218
Please, I'd love to see Iran do Down Syndrome D-Day on Israel.

>>63891584
Worked wonders in the theatre siege, to be fair. Hostages included.

>>63891584
It is if dispersed correctly.

>>63891207
>>63891252
Yeah but... UNITED STATES. So whatever. Idiot little plan and constraints and fucking WHAT. EVER.
We will blast a superhighway right through it and pave it from C-130s and propane heaters. God this fucking pearl clutching bitch woman think is disgusting.
IRAN CAN DO JACK SHIT AND WE CAN DO WHAT THE FUCK EVER.

>>63891464
Yeah none of that works anything like that.

>>63884605 (OP)
> explosive the results would be extremely destructive
Not so much. Nuclear waste washes out like anything else. It's bad for a city because it would take weeks or months to wash out an entire city but an army or a warship? They drill for this shit. MOP gear, decon booths, and pressure washers full of soapy water would clean that shit out in a day.

>>63892207
The operation would involve insane softening, like a level of munitions never seen before in a war. We would have to drop more than we did in Vietnam and that was more than we did in WW2. Not to mention the limitations of our force structure, we simply don't have enough soldiers to mount an invasion of Iran. The goal of the operation would be to take control over all Iranian territory and force regime change and erase the current power structure completely to build a new one.

The amount of air strikes, missile strikes, drone strikes, everything that would be required to completely defeat and dislodge all Iranians from all defensive positions and snake them out of every bunker would be absolutely incomprehensible and costly from a financial perspective.

You need to understand the undertaking that is being theorized here, the goal is to control the entire territory of Iran and force a change in government to faction of Iranians that want to depose the current Iranian establishment- and also simultaneously gain their loyalty and cooperation on all fronts. The anti Iranian factions in Iran are still a minority and their riots weren't even armed, but what would push them towards supporting their original government is indiscriminate bombing from the U.S and a U.S ground invasion. That would involve getting some civilians involved and it would inevitably galvanize Iranians against us- especially due to the level of ferocity that we'll have to exhibit to deal with their conventional and unconventional defenses.

Iran has over 90 million people and consumes as about as much oil as Germany. You are not going to control that many people with a few million soldiers. You will need at the very least 5 million soldiers mobilized supported by all air assets that the U.S has available. We've got a small fraction of that right now. There will be no ground invasion of Iran, if anyone has any sense whatsoever.

>>63888677
>very easy to find and clean up
Not exactly. Not even close, actually. I don't think it would even be possible in an urban environment, not over a large area.
>t. did a cleanup or 20
>mostly painted or bare metal and that's bad enough, trust me
>porous surfaces like concrete or asphalt? don't even bother trying, it's a waste of time and exposure

>>63884612
thats not what the king of the jews (trump) said

>>63891464
>5th generation chemical weapons were spearheaded by the Russians
Ah, so you are ethnically british, culturally American and mentally brown.
Got it.
Everything you posted is wrong and the counter is still
>close your windows
>wait for the cloud to disperse

>>63884608
oof

>>63891584
If Fentanyl was around 40 years ago it would probably be the go to tainted letter assassination tool since its remarkably potent as a contact agent.

>>63895739
But it's not THAT potent, that's the thing.
Also, you'll find that most APIs will fuck you up if you touch them.

>>63895762
2 milligrams isn't much, you can also maim someone with a smaller but serious dose as it will cause them to basically pass out and perhaps have issues breathing. Still a potent terror weapon.

>>63895772
>2 milligrams isn't much
it kind of is a lot, anon.

>>63884605 (OP)
Yes, it makes total sense as a nation to declare nuclear war with the United States of America. Clearly one would have absolutely nothing to lose by committing to such a course of action.

>>63884612
Serious question
Where would they even move it to? Bringing that shit up to surface level while Israel is attacking you seems like a retarded idea. Those locations were probably the safest in all of Iran to store them. They also had no fucking idea we were coming for them.

>>63893538
>close your windows
>wait for the cloud to disperse

Very nice bait, thank you very much. Have a nice day.