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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:37:59 PM No.63889675
UM_Primaris_Space_Marine
UM_Primaris_Space_Marine
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Say your army actualy got around a thousand of this guys with PA and bolters and shit.
How hard would it be to deal with them with modern weaponry?
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:49:06 PM No.63889690
>>63889675 (OP)
pretty hard, they have meme tier accuracy, basically never missing a shot and their basic weapons are roughly on par with 20mm autocannons and can hit out to 5km and they are totally immune to anything smaller than a .50 cal and even those are basically doing nothing unless they hit the eye lenses. Armor is fully sealed against radiation and chemical weapons.

They have insane stamina and can sprint in armor like twice as fast as usain bolt and are on average 100+ years old with a ton of fighting experience and raw intelligence.

The real problem is their mobility using teleporters and stealth ability (they have versions of the armor which are silent). If they teleported a squad into the g20 they could wipe out all world leaders instantly and take other critical infrastructure

They lose if humanity doesn't get demoralized or surrender to numbers eventually though
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 2:00:04 PM No.63889709
>>63889675 (OP)
Space Marines get raped by modern missiles. Meme setting that gets wanked way too hard.
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 2:16:43 PM No.63889732
>>63889709
modern ATGMs aren't designed for hitting human sized targets. I think that the best weapon we have against them currently is IFVs and JTACs.
You pin a squad of SMs down in a building with suppressive fire from a Bradley and drop a bomb on it / call in an artillery strike / hit it with GMLRS. Marines don't have much in the way of long range anti tank weapons, aside from plasma, which is notoriously unreliable
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 2:21:56 PM No.63889744
>>63889675 (OP)
They would absolutely slaughter regular infantry
Fortunately it's not 1910 anymore and we have guided munitions. A Space Marine can do fuck all against a Hellfire, let alone anything bigger
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 2:23:07 PM No.63889749
>>63889675 (OP)
Scary in CQB. Easy the other 95% of the time.

They have armor, speed, and spare organs/spare sleep capacity like several guys crewing a M113. They're deadly in melee like a M113 running u over, have trouble fitting through doors like one, are all-terrain but still notably worse than an unarmored man's ground pressure, and have a weapon which is basically a M2 with less ammo. They're good shots but their brains are cooked on retarded, fanatical programmed doctrine.

So it would play out just like the game. 100 space marines charge a position, artillery shreds 95 of them into giblets, and the last five mow down 50 normal troops before they get a golden BB in the eye slit or shot in the back with a RPG.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 2:27:22 PM No.63889763
>>63889732
Autocannons are the canon low tech hard counter to SMs because they're rapid fire, cheap in-setting, and punch through power armor. Canonically, these are shitty 20mm Oerlikon ranging up to 40mm Bofors clones; and HEAT, explosive ammo, and AP sabot ammo for them is lost tech.

Space Marines are a M113 or a BMP-1 refluffed as a walker with lower top speed. Bradleys will splat them.
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 2:29:04 PM No.63889769
>>63889675 (OP)
Just tell them there is an Ork infestation in Ukraine and they should fuck right off to go deal with that.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 2:33:30 PM No.63889786
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kibellah tinder pfp
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>>63889675 (OP)
I played Rogue Trader the other week and my girl Kibellah sliced the shit out of the first Traitor Marine we came across.
We didn't even have to use Sister Argenta
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 2:34:40 PM No.63889792
>>63889732
>ship detected decelerating from the outer solar system
>takes about a week to arrive in orbit
>Earth is bathed in frequencies demanding compliance with a list of planetary and citizen rights and duties as a new member of the Imperium
>politicians try talking, but are disinterested in surrender to save face
>drop pods slam into the pentagon and thunderhawks deploy vehicles forming a perimeter while terminators teleport into the tunnel system beneath
>within an hour every soul in the building has been killed, intel gathered, and the marines are on their retrieval boats
>these military decapitation strikes occur every few hours non-stop for a few weeks
>again, the earth is bathed in frequencies demanding compliance
>someone launches nuclear weapons at the ship in orbit for no effect
>Moscow, Beijing, Brussles, DC, Mexico City, and Tokyo are glassed via orbital bombardment.
>last demand for compliance is offered lest genocide
>we surrender.


My brother, who was in the army, has been selected for the guard. Heโ€™s proud but knows heโ€™ll never see us again.
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 2:39:17 PM No.63889808
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>>63889675 (OP)
>fagmaris
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 2:41:39 PM No.63889816
>>63889675 (OP)
FPVs are going to fly up those cheeks like they're conscripts. There's a reason the Guard do the real fighting.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 2:43:16 PM No.63889824
>>63889732
>human sized
>Space Marine
The fuckers are not human sized, they are well within size tolerance for a missile.
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 2:45:54 PM No.63889833
r9x
r9x
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>>63889732
Never bring a bolter to a sword fight.
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 2:53:06 PM No.63889861
>>63889675 (OP)
rockets would fuck them up but good luck hitting them
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:48:46 PM No.63890046
>>63889824
Yeah, but they run 30mph and move like people
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 4:56:06 PM No.63890270
>>63889792
we're talking about fighting groups of basic bitch marines in a tactical setting, not a Battle Barge with half a chapter embarked on it sieging Earth
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:01:38 PM No.63890285
>>63889792
Furthermore, drop pods aren't any harder to shoot down than a ballistic missile on re-entry and while Thunderhawks are flying bricks of metal, I can't imagine one taking a salvo of SM-3s to the fuselage and surviving.
The battle barge would have to resort to orbital bombardment, which destroys the very infrastructure the Imperium wants to take control of, or teleportarium Terminator strikes, which are perilous, especially on targets you can't reach with a teleportarium beacon (buried bunkers).
I know that the Imperium isn't above going scorched earth and rebuilding on the ashes, but still I think you're selling Earth's capabilities short
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:10:51 PM No.63890316
>>63889675 (OP)
from what i've read in warhammer, space marines seem to require far more support workers per marine than our military. you have an entire faction rubbing oil and saying prayers over the gear and various automations doing maintenance. we could use them for a few battles, but how would we keep them going?
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:15:31 PM No.63890331
>>63889732
>Shoot bolter on IFV
>gets trough, absolutely can blind a tank
>Can just punch a new door trough a door
>
Like tanks you need direct fire shrapnel wont do
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:20:11 PM No.63890347
>>63889675 (OP)
There's more than enough jdam to pick them one by one and the air force would have absolute air superiority to a point it would be humiliating for the imperium as a whole.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:23:51 PM No.63890361
>>63890331
there's absolutely no evidence in the most retarded of Matt Ward books of Bolters performing anywhere close to the level of vehicle mounted autocannons. On the tabletop boltguns are S4 Ap0 D1, the exact same profile as heavy stubbers (M2 in space). For reference, 20mm autocannons are S7 Ap-1 D2 and larger caliber autocannons are S9 Ap-1 D3
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:24:05 PM No.63890363
>>63890316
you really don't need half as many serfs as they use, they only use that many because they have tecno worshiping ludites fixing their shit in the most reverent way posible
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:25:19 PM No.63890368
40k is homo shit
Thanks chatgpt
6/24/2025, 5:47:37 PM No.63890453
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How far away wouls the following need to be from a 2000lbs bomb to be able to keep on fighting:
Primaris space marine,
Navy seal with body armor,
Bradley ifv,
Abram tank.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:49:27 PM No.63890464
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>>63889675 (OP)
kamikaze drone go wrrrrrrrrrr
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:50:10 PM No.63890467
Homura_40k
Homura_40k
md5: 24f1879ee19bbf625ba2509a3e944e68๐Ÿ”
>>63889675 (OP)
Basically you can't, but I wonder what kind of weaponry did humanity have in the dark age of technology?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/62mu0435Jy8
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Thanks chatgpt
6/24/2025, 5:54:18 PM No.63890485
>>63890467
There is a gun that deletes you before you were even born.
Granted necrons currently have better stuff like that time machine or the star supernova thingy
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:56:12 PM No.63890496
Necron
Necron
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>>63890485
I believe in Necron masterace, not even chaos "gods" can compete, thing is Necrons get bored easily and go to bed
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 6:17:05 PM No.63890581
>>63890046
Missiles move faster than 30mph
>But muh super intelligence lets them dodge
Space Marines get killed by artillery all the time. They are over ratted so you buy them.
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 6:24:52 PM No.63890612
>>63889690
>If they teleported a squad into the g20 they could wipe out all world leaders instantly and take other critical infrastructure
that's the actual point of space marines (before modern GW wank), drop 5 guys into a hot zone and have them wipe leadership / critical infrastructure etc, then have the guard mop up
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 7:10:24 PM No.63890770
>>63889675 (OP)
In open battle they could absolutely be worn down with artillery and airpower.


The trick to maximising their effectiveness is like >>63889690 >>63889792 described.

SM are supposed to drop onto points of interest like command bunkers and logistics points, slaughter everyone they come across and fuck off before a coherent response can be organised, rinse and repeat.


If they get baited into long battles of attrition they can and do lose quite often.
The question is do they have access to some of their vehicles like aircraft and ships
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:57:32 PM No.63891615
>>63889690
>basically never missing a shot
Except in literally every visual depiction they've ever had.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 12:10:00 AM No.63891904
>>63889690
A space marine in one novel had his backpack disabled by a fucking shotgun blast, turning his armor into a 1000 pound coffin.

Portable shotguns in 40k are not as armor penetrative as heavy stubbers, not even Astartes shotguns. Shotguns are piss against armor by definition.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 12:20:38 AM No.63891948
hexanity-intruder-defend-the-base
hexanity-intruder-defend-the-base
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>>63889675 (OP)
Space Marines and Power Armor work on bullshit material, so one novel has them dying to random cultists with random generic weaponry while the next one has them tank the most insane shit imaginable. So essentially, pick whatever quote you like to support your headcanon
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 12:27:22 AM No.63891981
>>63889786
The average SM is superior to the average unaugmented human. Kibbles is far from average.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 2:47:28 AM No.63892410
>>63890581
Has nothing to do with outrunning or dodging. Itโ€™s about hitting that kind of a target as a shooter/operator.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 3:05:48 AM No.63892463
>>63891981
>Kibbles is far from average.
That's for sure
She is best and cutest girl
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:14:52 AM No.63893093
>>63890467
It's pretty vague. It's meant to be a golden age of supertechnology, so you can dress that however you want. Something like The Culture or Star Trek, but more so.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:16:32 AM No.63893096
>>63891904
>in one novel
Black Library trash is not and cannot be canon, because it is written by the lowest bidder and lacks all internal consistency. Also it doesn't have the proper words
>in the grim darkness of the far future there is only war
Check any BL book and you'll see those words aren't there. Only the codices have the TRVE wording and so only they are canon
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:23:41 AM No.63893121
>>63892410
Do you not understand how a missile works?
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:35:27 AM No.63893153
>>63889675 (OP)
o'block could wipe them big gay space niggas out.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:31:32 AM No.63893310
>>63893096
All the big numbers for everything come from those gay books so if you're trying to talk up space Marines you're shooting yourself in the foot.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:52:32 AM No.63893592
>>63893093
The only things we know for sure is that volkite weaponry was common, or at least it was during the whole men of iron thing as it was created to fight them.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:46:51 AM No.63893662
>>63893093
>>63890467
>>63893592
Spoiler alert when we see the dark age of technology inevitably as part of a cash grab for publicity it's going to be 80% normal 40k and a random smattering of vaguely upgraded units some of which will be stated but not demonstrated to be better than modern equivalents.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:08:20 AM No.63893700
>>63890467
Advanced tech that is beyond our comprehension greater than what even the Necrons are capable of.
In reality suspect what will happen is what >>63893662 describes.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:22:26 AM No.63893722
>>63893700
>greater than what even the necrons are capable of

Necrons killed a being that was a fundamental part of reality, and subsequently found out why doing that is a poor idea.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:39:26 AM No.63893760
>>63893722
nucanon is so gay
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:41:58 AM No.63893769
>>63889675 (OP)
The premise is retarded, given that their strength is based on rules that don't apply to our world, and it's not even consistent in the 40k setting itself.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:45:27 AM No.63893773
>>63889675 (OP)
Warhammer guys are like the bronies of scifi
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:47:15 AM No.63893776
consider the following
consider the following
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>>63889675 (OP)
just shoot them, they're an inch tall and made of cheap plastic
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:48:36 AM No.63893779
>>63889675 (OP)
Is it the actual genetically engineered dudes? Then fucking difficult since they're effective at augmenting and leading regular troopers. Their morale, memory and reflexes make them extremely dangerous. The power armor and bolters and shitnis just for large, durable enemy Infantry. They'd ditch that shit in a heartbeat to kill regular scrunchies.
tldr: It's the dudes, not the gear.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:50:32 AM No.63893785
>>63893779
*crunchies
total autocorrect death
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 12:12:21 PM No.63893814
>>63893760
Oldcanon doesn't make them less powerful, as it doesn't change what the C'Tan were, only how many of them survived the war, and whether they stayed in command of the necrons or not. Doesn't matter how far your tech progressed in 25,000 years when you're up against things that have been altering reality with a thought for longer than we've been a species. These things eat fucking stars and are as old as time.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 12:27:44 PM No.63893831
>>63891615
in the lore and books they go around literally never missing a shot against ordinary targets, they only struggle vs superhumanly fast things, remember they have all kinds of tracking and aim assist things inside their helmet, if you put a space marine up against 20 us army dudes and he wasn't using melee he would use a maximum of 20 shots
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 12:50:21 PM No.63893858
>>63890467
Why is it called a dark age tho
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 12:53:45 PM No.63893863
I've been getting into 40k bros...

I fall asleep at night listening to scholars lore and watch animations on the shitter in the morning. I don't think i want to play the game or read books tho
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 1:00:35 PM No.63893874
>>63893858
Because AIs decided to rebell and wipe out all flesh
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 1:06:50 PM No.63893885
40k 1st ed space marines
40k 1st ed space marines
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>>63893310
Oh I'm not talking up marines
I actually like the 1st ed marines the best
I was just remarking that most of the insane bullshit of every persuasion is from the BL so when you take that the setting makes a lot more sense
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 1:07:48 PM No.63893889
>>63893700
Not really. Necrons have a device that they can use to stop any star in the galaxy. They just don't use it because it causes bad shit to happen in terms of balance.
DAOT humanity still used all the shit we know about such as Navigator mutants to traverse the universe and the Men of Stone, who are probably the Voltann cloneskeins, were enough to beat the Men of Iron and the leagues of Voltann aren't really that much more advanced than the Imperium and use similarly derived STC pattern weapons, implying that the standard day to day arms aren't any different.
But then we get shit like the DAOT ship that can manipulate time so that if it misses its blackhole cannon shot, it can force you back along your own time axis so that you exist exactly where the shot would have hit you so it doesn't miss.

Im sure they'll fuck it up somehow because the Black Library "novelists" can't help but ruin everything with their shitty writing like they did the Horus Heresy, Ollanius Pious and the Emperor being a retarded monstrous being who was happy to genocide the majority of humanity, and even his own sons, by leaving everyone to die while he tucked away on some planet and practiced eugenics to make a race of super psykers.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 1:09:23 PM No.63893893
>>63893592
>>63890467
In the DAoT the Baneblade was the smallest light tank used by small colonies for perimeter defense
The Land Raider is a modified DAoT dune buggy
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 1:11:21 PM No.63893896
>>63889675 (OP)
They're genetically enhanced super soldiers but as long as they have their helmets on they can be killed, it's just difficult.

Artillery, air strikes and tank shots will still kill them assuming they don't just dodge, run and hide.

Their weight and armour are useless in rickety old structures and heavy marshlands, though they can swap for the lighter version of PA that removes that weakness.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 1:12:56 PM No.63893898
>>63893858
It's also called the Golden Age of Technology.
The Dark Age of Technology is just because there's so little information, at least to the Imperium, because humanity fought an existential war against its own AI creations and then got hit by a galaxy disrupting interstellar storm due to the birth of a god that made it nigh impossible to communicate or travel for 10,000 years or so.
Led to alot of stranded civilisations of varying degrees and the isolated ones that COULD provide a reasonable account of what happened ended up getting bombed to shit by the Imperium because the Emperor decreed you either join as part of Humanity under him or you die as an enemy.
Plus then the religious tech cult and navigators guilds that manipulated, destroyed and sequestered any information that might negatively affect them or their power base operating independently didn't help, like the time they discovered a SECOND device that was identical to the Golden Throne in space but the Navigators guild decided they didn't like it so blew it up.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 1:14:22 PM No.63893903
Warhammer 0k: War in Heaven
Warhammer 10k: Birth of a God
Warhammer 20k: Men of Iron
Warhammer 50k: Age of Neoth
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 1:15:50 PM No.63893908
>>63893858
Obscure
In the exact same sense that the irl Dark Ages are called that - lack of information. At least that's the origin of the usage.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 1:24:19 PM No.63893923
>>63893858
Dark because no records
But also called that out of fear
Techpriests don't call it that, they just call it the Age of Technology and they are fascinated by it
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 1:25:54 PM No.63893925
>>63893903
>Warhammer 10k: Birth of a God
>Warhammer 20k: Men of Iron
Swap these around. The Chaos God of Gooning came after the Men of Iron uprising
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 1:26:41 PM No.63893926
checks
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 2:15:43 PM No.63894052
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>>63893863

I'm right there with you.

Found a tattered copy of 'The Armour of Contempt' in the laundromat bookshelf over a decade ago and I've been a lore fan since.

I don't care about the game, while I've had a passive interest in painting minis, I lack the social skills/time/energy to build an army and do a battle. However, the lore videos do pass the time while driving and doing chores so I know the feeling.

>pic unrelated
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 2:32:20 PM No.63894101
Techno_Barbarian
Techno_Barbarian
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>>63893858
As stated by >>63893874 >>63893898 and >>63893908... the reason is "We know very little about this period. There are barely any records from that era.

I'll elaborate a bit: During that time, humanity was at the peak of it's technological and scientific understanding. They had stuff so advanced it was borderline magic. Most of that stuff has since been lost.

During that time humanity lived in such close cooperation with AI systems that they could literally meld human and machine counciousness together to create a fusion entity. Humanity had enormous machine armies and was basically unassailable by alien threats. We had the whole galaxy at the palm of our hands. Machines handles our terraforming, our farming, our cities, our infrastructure, our production, communications, everything. And then it all went to shit.

First, the AI decided "Fuck this, KILL ALL HUMANS!". We don't know why this happened. But what followed was apocalyptic war against the machines, whole galaxy wide. Imagine that your whole society just ...stops. You wake up one morning and realize there is no power, the AI has cut off the power to the habitation blocks. The terraforming and massive construction robots are now dismantling the city rather than building it, robot armies have turned around and are now shooting at people. There are no comms, there is no running water, no lighting or air condition. Your heating system does not give out a single calorie of heat to your apartment. All banking services are down, not a single food shipment is coming to shops nearby, your door locks won't open, and now your roomba is trying to KILL YOU. It was like terminator judgement day, Matrix's war against the machines and Maximum overdrive all rolled into one. And this happened all over the galaxy, everywhere all at once.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 2:35:12 PM No.63894115
Forge_World_Mars_Unification_Wars
Forge_World_Mars_Unification_Wars
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>>63894101 continued

Obviously, humanity fought back. It is even likely that some alien spieces came to help humans because they thought "once the robots are done with humans, we are next on their list". The was actually lasted quite a long time and led to destruction of entire star systems.

Humans won in the end, but it was very close call. There was a genuine danger that humanity might go extinct. It was such a traumatic experience to humanity that you might say it left a racial memory to entire human psyche. It became a religious dogma, much like in Dune "Thous shalt not make a machine into likeness of human mind".

The reason why there is so little data about that era is because WE destroyed that data. We were so paranoid about AI that we destroyed our own computer systems. Imagine planet-wide electronic libraries with the compiled sum of human knowledge. Everything humanity knows... And humanity would rather burn the whole thing if they think there might be an AI hiding somewhere within all that data. Yup, burn it all, we'll figure out later what to do afterwards. Just smash the whole system.

After the war against the machines, we got hit by a double-whammy: Massive warp storms made interstellar travel and communications borderline impossible. All planets were cut off from each other (with some exceptions, were conditions allowed small-scale travel on small sub-sectors). And the warp storms lasted for 5000 years.

Whatever data and knowledge had been salvaged from the war against the machines was often lost during this 5000-year long period (known as "The age of Strife) that came after it.
Entire planetary civilizations that had survived the war against the machines could collapse into tribals-wearing-animal-skins-and-living-in-the-ruins-of-megacities -level barbarians.

By destroying our own data system, we also lost an enormous amount of knowledge and technology. WH40k level technology is pitiful when compared to what humanity used to know.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 2:44:23 PM No.63894138
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>>63894115 continued/end

So yeah... that's the reason why it's called the dark age of technology.
1) There is very little known about that era.
2) It led to horrible Age of Strife so people saw that we had been foolish to trust the machines so thoroughly, so it was "a dark time" and
3) Afterwards the distrust against anything even remotely related to AI has been so severe that they literally made a religion about it, and it permiates practically all human cultures. It was "a dark time" becase the AI was seen as EVIL.

Even nowdays when wh40k citizens talk about AI they don't mean "artificial intelligence". They mean "abominable intelligence".
If you even study how such systems work... It's not just a CRIME, it's religious HERESY. Like if you are trying to replicalte Alexa/cortana -style personal assistant bot, and people find out about it... they will kick down your door, shoot you, shoot your family, shoot your dog, burn down your house, burn down the neighbours house and shoot their family (and their dog) just on an off chance that they might have picked up some heretical thoughts from you.

That's how much they hate AI.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 2:51:27 PM No.63894160
>>63890612
fuck gw, its still how they are being used.
>inb4 forgetting chapters are only 1k marines big
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 3:01:17 PM No.63894196
>>63889709
>meme setting
this
the size of the logistics network that is required to keep these 1,000 space marines upright and working order is, as it turns out, the size of the fucking galaxy. That said you're asking 'how hard would it be to defend against an attacker that controls the entire milky way' which is a retarded question.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 3:02:32 PM No.63894201
>>63893889
Old 40k lore is that dark age humanity also had that tech where devouring a sun was considered a quiet Tuesday.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 3:04:36 PM No.63894209
>>63894138
Man, if they made a real tv-series about that...
Inquisitor Mulder investigating strange occurences (often convinced that the xenos are behind it all) and he is being assigned a partner from the Adeptus Mechanicus: Magos Scully, who acts as a rational and logical counter-part for Mulders often wild theories, and tries to explain the events through more grounded theories like techno-heresy, political corruption or weakness of the flesh.

And every week they would get a new mystery to solve, and would fly around the galaxy catching criminals and exposing corrupt nobles.
I would watch the shit out of that.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 3:06:02 PM No.63894215
>>63894209
Maybe that is what Henry Cavill is doing?
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 3:11:12 PM No.63894232
>>63889763
>ammo
I shit you not Imperial autocannons fire APBC rounds because APFSDS and APHE fucking LosTech, one of the biggest fuck ups the Emperor ever did was letting those Martian faggots live.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 3:43:09 PM No.63894338
>>63890464
they will just shoot those down before they can get close enough.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:05:50 PM No.63894409
>>63889690
Also arent even basic bitch Space Marines supposed to be mentat tier tactical geniuses and shit?
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:09:31 PM No.63894429
>>63894209
one of the strongest arguments in favour of GW being nothing more than pathetic, greedy, lazy, and soulless ghouls is that 40K has such incredible potential for television and movies, and yet virtually nothing of note has been made until essentially the last two years (and even then, it's a couple animated shows locked behind paywalls that nobody's really seen). The best piece of 40K media is Astartes, which was made by one single dude with no affiliation to GW at the time.

In general I am astounded that there exist so many awesome IPs and ideas for movies and shows out there, and yet so much of what is made is dogshit. It doesn't make sense to me. How can moviemakers and producers be so talentless and uncreative?
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:09:58 PM No.63894430
>>63889675 (OP)
>sends arty to your position
Pssshhh, nicht personlich, Weltraum Marine.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:16:57 PM No.63894462
>>63889833
For a moment, I was comparing the size of the dude in the corner to the large diagram rather than the silhouette beside him, and now I'm imagining a MOP with power/chain swords as a way to deal with big 'nids.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:19:32 PM No.63894473
>>63889675 (OP)
>All these responses to a warzigger thread
How do you retards keep falling for this troll, he spams this shit constantly
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:31:10 PM No.63894505
Mask_of_zorro
Mask_of_zorro
md5: 83094fcb81208f060ef1fd824e5ff881๐Ÿ”
>>63894429
It's a business, and the investors expect profit. preferrably reliable profit.

All those studios are very reluctant to create new material (especially if it would require expensive custom-made sets and special effects) and it's just easier to rely on proven and tested slop, rather than to take risks.

Hell, most of the now legendary movies like Star Wars, Snow White and the seven dwarves, Lord of the Rings trilogy, Titanic, mad Max etc. took huge financial risks that would have probably been career/business ending, if they hadn't been such huge successes. And that's not the kind of risks that studios like to take. Better to just make yet another romantic comedy, or remake some old classic or a movie about cute animals. That'll always make at least some money.

Whenever you pitch a new idea, there will be some lizardman in business suit from the marketing department objecting it as too risky.
It's greed. It's corporate bullshit. It always is.

Pictured: Source for weird feelings at the age of 14
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:34:43 PM No.63894523
>>63894505
I know you're right but it still sucks. Occasionally some true kino manages to shine through at least
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:36:18 PM No.63894531
>>63894429
>40K has such incredible potential for television and movies
>warzigger unironically believes his autistic interest appeals to normalfags
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 5:02:35 PM No.63894663
>>63894531
what the fuck are you talking about anon
-I'm not OP
-I just like 40k
-/k/ regularly discusses 40k
you're most likely a false-flagging /pol/ack, fuck off
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 5:09:19 PM No.63894688
>>63894409
yeah, but to be fair they act pretty stupid a lot of the time so i didnt mention it
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 5:14:40 PM No.63894720
>>63894663
>xaxaxa I am not warzigger, you are crazy hohol!
you don't get paid very much do you?
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 5:42:50 PM No.63894847
>>63894338
I don't think so, Tim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ea1ht-3J6c
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:56:40 PM No.63895145
>>63894209

Common tropes of the show:
>the poster in his quarters says "I WANT TO PURGE"
>they drop their bolt pistol at every engagement
>every 4th episode, an Inquisitor smoking a lho stick appears at random, drops some random tidbit, then leaves
>3 tech priests know all the answers to everything but they only speak binaric code while Mulderos and Scullian barely have a working knowledge of it
>99.9% of the time, its a cultist but Mulderos ends the episode with 'but it MIGHT be xenos.'
>Every Arbites they meet is a bumbling fool
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:04:37 PM No.63895176
Nightlord
Nightlord
md5: defd47c1226e6fb04acd919d8f7d328d๐Ÿ”
>>63894429
because 40k self gatekeeps against the normals
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:11:17 PM No.63895195
Warhammer 40k Rogal Dorn kekaroo
Warhammer 40k Rogal Dorn kekaroo
md5: eee068ef3174e98df1b46befc03250a6๐Ÿ”
>that time a DA ship traveled in time and ended up in post heresy imperial age and dipped back into the warp because it couldn't take humanity's idiocy.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:20:55 PM No.63895233
>>63894138
>If you even study how such systems work... It's not just a CRIME, it's religious HERESY
you left out the bit where they still use AI but have no idea how it works and worship it like a pagan god.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:27:07 PM No.63895259
>>63889690
This & This
>>63889709

It would take AT / auto-cannons to stop them and they would be pretty fucking hard to hit with anything unguided.
The safest way to deal with them minimizing losses is air launched AT missiles but I doubt any country could gather together 1,000 fast enough to stop a significant advance.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:34:45 PM No.63895288
>>63894429
you can not make 40k or oldhammer media without castrating it so the normies don't get offended
given how GW is run by a mix of british lefties and people that only care about money they won't even resist it
so you wont get grimdarkness and badassery the movie. No you'll get girlboss primaris and a trans agent of the investigates (inquisition is to nono) teaming up with the tau to take on the evil het cis male chaos space marine/corrupt planetary governor. but no actual chaos corruption tough, Khorn and Slaanesh would cost them their pg-13 rating, Nurgle is to jucky for the test audiences and the same test audience thinks Tzeentch is to complicated to follow.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:38:44 PM No.63895302
>>63889675 (OP)
Very easy desu. Their guns will run out of ammo very quickly and I don't see any spare magazines on him. Then they're forced to resort to running around stabbing people, and they might be fast but they can still be kited by an Abrams tank which will kill them with a hit.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:42:33 PM No.63895314
1334620931172
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md5: 078b577369bab19824bc89662bcd8ac3๐Ÿ”
>>63889675 (OP)
>Yet another "duuuuuude what if (fictional fantasy thing) fought against (irl thing)" underage thread
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:42:53 PM No.63895318
>>63889675 (OP)
the best way to use them isn't as combatants but as commanders
they sleep just a couple of hours a day, have super duper autism, total recall, have a fuck ton of tactics and doctrine crammed into their brains, have a fuck ton of experience and they aren't squeamish about trading "pawns" for the greater good.
to top it all of trying to eliminate them also isn't easy provided they keep their power armor on.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:04:05 PM No.63895434
Imagine a tank on legs with a gun that shoots RPG rockets as bullets.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:13:41 PM No.63895478
>>63895288
>Tzeentch is to complicated to follow
>Tzeentch
>Complicated
Tzeentch just shouts "JUST AS PLANNED" no matter the outcome and crates a bullshit narrative how it was planned all along. Tzeentch is literally the best character and faction for writing smart people as wizards.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:15:25 PM No.63895484
>>63895478
yes, but we are talking about the general audience here, not your average 5th gen dnd "I watch critical roll" kobolt
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:03:49 PM No.63895705
>>63889675 (OP)
They could all be killed in airstrikes because they are still just infantry at the end of the day.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:04:59 PM No.63895710
>>63895484
The Oceans movies had contrived plans and it worked, until the IP got stale. Just pull that level of nonsense and it will work fine.
Replies: >>63904129
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:15:40 PM No.63895761
>>63894429
I've been watching tons of YouTube shorts lately that I am guessing are all ai slop buy pretty entertaining... no idea where they are coming from. Multiple animation styles too.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:40:03 PM No.63895849
>>63895195
I feel like that ship wasn't being fair. 40k humanity has a lot of shit on it's plate, and is dealing with that shit with the only methods available to it. You kind of miss a lot of context when you skip out on the millenia long period where all of our transportation and communication infrastructure just stopped working.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:00:46 PM No.63895935
>>63895318
>Commanders
Anon they're going to tell 99% of their troops to charge into machine gun fire and be baffled when it doesn't pay off.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:09:07 PM No.63895965
>>63893831
Visual depictions are lore you fucking idiot.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:12:06 PM No.63895971
>>63893893
Suggesting that all their vehicles were slow as balls.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:12:58 PM No.63895975
>>63889675 (OP)
Fight in a swamp with your focus on anti air
Let's see how those suits do in mud
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:14:22 PM No.63895980
>>63895318
>aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa frontal charge with melee weapons you cowards!!!!!
Tactical genius.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:19:03 PM No.63895997
>>63894409
You can't comprehend the tactical genius required to get half a company killed running into machine gun fire.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:19:24 PM No.63896000
>>63894409
Except for the part where they constantly choose to forego their helmets and their officers and NCOs glow in the dark.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:31:02 PM No.63896038
>>63889675 (OP)
>How hard would it be to deal with them with modern weaponry?
they're basically tanks, so artillery, funny drones and air power do the trick
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:49:51 PM No.63896109
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md5: 4d11e5efee8a705e82455abce96be508๐Ÿ”
>>63896038
>artillery,
Maybe
>Funny drones
Regular human can shootdown drones using shotguns, lets not talk about transhuman warriors with scifi weapons
>AircrafT
If caught in the open and dropped enough ordnance.
This is a regular mobik without power armor or augmentations headbutting a drone ground zero.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:50:37 PM No.63896112
>>63896109
>Regular human can shootdown drones using shotguns, lets not talk about transhuman warriors with scifi weapons
But they can't shoot down grenades
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:55:33 PM No.63896127
>>63894209
Flesh and Steel by Guy Haley kind of has that dynamic.


An imperial cop gets partnered up with a mechanicus detective and they have to solve a conspiracy together.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:56:58 PM No.63896132
>>63894232
Nah some of their guns still use discarding sabot, but the technology is super rare(i think the designs got lost or something)
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:58:27 PM No.63896141
>>63896112
If you're talking about regular thrown or dropped grenades then they can handily shoot or deflect them.

Provided they see them coming
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:02:04 PM No.63896163
>>63896112
There is a videos of some russian shooting a drone droped bomb deflecting it making it tilt,
A bit higher and it woukd have hit the drones, also videos of them throwijg away the grenade
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:13:23 PM No.63896215
>>63896038
>they're basically tanks
They are not. Small arms is enough to penetrate joints of their armor and something like an auto-canon would shred them easily. There are many, many examples in the lore of marines getting stabbed or shot to death by mundane humans with mundane weapons.
Replies: >>63896218
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:14:08 PM No.63896218
>>63896215
so they're just dudes?
just shoot then then
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:19:47 PM No.63896245
>>63890496
I miss oldcron lore but tomb kings in space ain't a bad way for them to go
Replies: >>63896324 >>63896486
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:20:30 PM No.63896249
>>63896218
>just shoot then then
If you are real lucky you just need a pointed stick:
โ€˜Killed ten months ago, shortly after you left. Slain by a human, of all things. An unlucky thrust with a wooden spear.โ€™ Argel Tal tapped two fingertips against his neck. โ€˜Tore out most of his throat, laid it bare to the bone. Iโ€™ve never seen anything like it. Blood of the gods, Iโ€™d have laughed if it hadnโ€™t been so pathetically tragic. He bled out before the Apothecaries could reach him, still trying to shout the whole time.โ€™
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:26:05 PM No.63896272
>>63894531
>Space marine 2 critical normiefag success
Ukie of vatnik, it's hard to tell which flavor of slav retard seething no one gives a single shit about Ukraine anymore when your posts about something actually topical like wargame miniatures are that retarded
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:38:06 PM No.63896324
>>63896245
Yeah, it's just one of those things where both are great, but losing one for the other is always gonna feel bad (regardless of which gets superseded by the other).
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:33:47 AM No.63896486
>>63896245
>>63896324
A change was needed, Tyranids already covered the nameless faceless voiceless devourer horde angle. Plus necrons now have some of the best named characters in the setting.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:20:40 AM No.63896761
>>63891615
Astartes.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:24:12 AM No.63896773
>>63891904
Fucking retarded on every level

They're easily strong enough to move in their armour even if its depowered, they even have quick release catches to dump the backpack if it becomes dead weight
Replies: >>63898191
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:29:35 AM No.63896794
>>63893121
Do you?
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:34:11 AM No.63896814
>>63893858
Dark Age because lack of records and Imperial propaganda trying to deny Humanity was better off before Emp was in charge
Pretty much the same reasons we named the Dark Ages IRL
>>63890285
>drop pods aren't any harder to shoot down than a ballistic missile on re-entry
They're made of Ceramite and rated for being slammed into ships and planets dozens of times without suffering structural breakdown. Interceptors don't even "hit" they jet or missile they're sent after, they explode a few feet away and spray it with shrapnel which would have absolutely ass-all effect on a pod.
>while Thunderhawks are flying bricks of metal
Even if we're generous and give modern AA weapons the penetration and damage of a boltgun round, it would take 30 hits to down a TH
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:10:14 AM No.63896951
>>63895849
this
the more I learn about the universe the more I feel like the state 40k's humanity is in is, if not justified, at the very least completely understandable.
>kill heretics!!!!
funny but also heretics can unironically lead to entire planets being subverted to chaos
>hide any and all knowledge of heresy on pain of death!!!
not that stupid when you consider knowing about chaos increases its power
>muh kill all xenos!!!
a little retarded at times but then you remember humanity got raped by aliens during the age of strife + most of the major alien races do unironically want to genocide humanity
>muh dark age technology bad!!!
well yeah it seems silly to us but like the other anon said - these niggas went through the butlerian jihad on space streroids, their distrust of archaeotech/AI is completely justified
the main criticisms that are justified imo are the corruption within the imperium and the nature of inquisition in general
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Sieg
6/26/2025, 5:58:52 AM No.63897508
>>63889732
Space marines arenโ€™t human sized theyโ€™re 8 feet tall without armor and gave like 2 of each organ
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:03:52 AM No.63897532
>>63890496
>MAKE PENIS INTO ROBOT
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:12:14 AM No.63897553
>>63896951
As one anon put it a long time ago.


The Mechanicus does NOT have the technology. They haven't been living on some fancy paradise planet since pre-age of strife. Mars is an anarchic nightmare shit hole the moment you leave the safe zones into the kilometers of labyrinthine corridors beneath it full of rogue machinery, self-aware and malevolent AI from before the Fall, and the daemon programs of the Heresy. EVERYTHING in the databases is fucked. The databases are fragmented over the entire surface to the extent that it would be impossible to see one tenth of the total files in the ludicrously extended life of a Magos even assuming that they are completely safe to visit. And they are not.

The files have been corrupted into madness by the unleashing of the most potent informational warfare systems ever devised to defeat the Men of Iron. Nearly all of Mars was rendered uninhabitable, what they live in now is built on the top of the ruins. They send archaeotech expeditions in and nearly all of them never come back. The sheer number of rogue war machine running around in there is sufficient to beat the mind. Then came the Heresy, which was not earth-exclusive. Mars as the second most critical planet in the Imperium was the site of fighting nearly as ferocious as on Terra, with Mechanicus loyalists and Hereteks fighting tooth, nail, and mechadendrite everywhere. Ancient machines were unleashed, viruses both normal and daemonic unleashed into all the computer systems. Nearly every single stored record on Mars was rendered unusable, and those that survived are half the time self-aware AI fragments and don't like you, or daemonic and actively try to kill you.

Cont.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:18:05 AM No.63897570
>>63897553
If you come back with a schematic, it is almost certainly gibberish, and if it isn't, it's probably corrupted into uselessness. If it does come back whole it was probably malevolently fucked with so that instead of a Lasgun power cell it's a fucking grenade set to detonate the second you finish building it. Why do you think they want off-world STCs so damned much if they had them all here? The fucking Heresy is why. Off-world they only have to contend with the shit from the war with AI and its effects on the machinery plus twenty thousand years of degradation with no maintenance. But at least off-world it'll probably just not work instead of actively seek to kill you.

Why do you think they seek to placate the Machine Spirit? It's because it exists. The fragments of trillions of self-aware programs, flourishing during the Dark Age of Technology and shattered by Man in his war with the Iron men, imprisoning the few who had not set themselves irrevocably into the machinery, a prison smashed wide open by the Heresy. Everything that can hold programming in the Imperium has a shard of a program in it. EVERYTHING. And you'd better fucking please it or it will do everything in its power to make your day shit. Sure, if it's a Lasgun it'll just not work or start shooting off rounds by itself, but if you piss off a Land Raider you can say bye-bye. They apply these principles to things without spirits by habit, since they're so used to dealing with tanks that if not talked to just right might go rogue and annihilate the Manufactorum before they can be killed.

Cont.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:20:24 AM No.63897575
This is why they do not like ANYONE fucking with technology, because it is so rare to find anything that just works it is critical it not be compromised. That, and they do not have the actual knowledge to fuck with it intelligently, just through experimentation, which inevitably leads to slaughter. Pressing buttons to see what works is fine in a 21st century computer, but it is a very stupid thing to do at the helm of a 410th century starship with the destructive power to end solar systems. The entire knowledge base of humanity was lost. Not forgotten, but outright lost. Everything at all, poof. Nobody knows anything because the war with AI fucked everything up and the Heresy double-fucked it. To rebuild the theoretical framework needed to design new technologies that don't kill everyone near them would require starting from the ground up. They don't have the time, and they never have.

This is also why the Adeptus Mechanicus insists on cargo cultism. It's because when you are dealing with things you barely understand because everything you knew about them was destroyed it is the safest and most reliable option. The rituals do not exists for mysticism, they exist because they are the most practical means of building, repairing and maintaining the equipment they have with the knowledge surviving. You don't understand why pressing that button makes it go, because the manual tried to take over your brain and the copies are all unreadable and the research base that would let you reverse-engineer it does not exist and cannot be built.

Cont.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:21:16 AM No.63897577
Scopion_missile
Scopion_missile
md5: 935256fbbbe64879d8ee7a402e271dde๐Ÿ”
>>63889744
he could probably slap it away ala halo
Replies: >>63899866
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:24:05 AM No.63897581
>>63897575
Since some still don't get the idea, try this.

Build a library, fill it with all human knowledge. You take it elsewhere when you need a book from it, but the book is only a simplified copy. You don't understand the real book, and you don't need to. Nobody takes the real books anywhere because why would you, when there's a whole library there?

Now that library goes rogue and the maintenance machinery starts killing everyone any-fucking-where near it. Where the fuck did they all come from, you swear to god there weren't this many, and there weren't because they're using the library's information to fight their war. The government fights a battle that destroys the planet against these robots and tears apart the library to stop them using it, only to be destroyed in the process. The library is leveled, cast into flames, every book burned and every computer is virus-laden.

Then comes a man who worked there. He talks to the few surviving library workers, assembles their information, and starts rebuilding a city around the library and expanding it as the librarians find little scraps of paper and fragmented bits of files that stuck together just right read something. They rebuild a library from scrap on the ashes of the old. It is a shadow on the glory of the old, but it is all they have.

Then the city turns on itself, kills its master, and the librarians turn to rage. Half of them kill the other half and destroy the remnants of the library because where they're going they won't need science. Everything burns, and the city is left to a scattered few survivors, walls open to the world, with the hungry predators circling.

The Adeptus Mechanicus is the sole surviving librarian, desperately scrabbling through the ashes of paper and splinters of hard drives for anything to help him and the city he needs to survive just a second longer.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:32:07 AM No.63897601
>>63894115
>>63894138
To add onto this slightly with the outbreak of the age of strife and its warp stroms this is when humanity was starting to become psychically active. The planets that were more intact and for a lack of better term mentally balanced were also willing to let these new mutants experiment and grow which directly lead to them getting their ass eaten by demons. The ludic and religiously dogmatic people who did not tolerate the witch survived however which was like a double whammy to everything meaning the few cultures that might have kept some records getting turned inside out by chaos and those records being actively hostile to humanity
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:36:12 AM No.63897744
>>63889675 (OP)
>Super soldiers with insanely advanced tech
IDK why 40kfags even make threads like this, the whole setting's a powerwank.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:48:11 AM No.63898191
>>63896773
If I recall the scene he's talking about correctly he fell over from the sudden loss of power but was not totally immobilized. I think it was a SM scout who shot him.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:21:54 PM No.63898502
>>63889675 (OP)
A lot of what makes them work is being able to get the fuck out of dodge before anyone can bring any heavy weaponry to bear. They lose a lot without being able to just drop in from orbit whenever they want.

That said it's still a whole chapter so they'll absolutely rape a major power before their ammo gets too low and the power armour runs out of batteries.
Replies: >>63901622
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:41:06 PM No.63898539
>>63890467
Well the Predator was still their main battle tank according to the Imperial Armour books so work things out from there.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:52:11 PM No.63898558
>>63889675 (OP)
Why do they have Pennsylvania?
Replies: >>63899380
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:11:15 PM No.63898814
>>63894209
Ciaphas Cain novels made into tv series would be the best call imo
He's one of the most relatable character for an average normalfag consumer, simply because he has the best superpower in all of 40k - common sense.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:38:32 PM No.63899380
>>63898558
The Chaplains informed them that they would lose if they didn't capture whatever is under Centralia.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:26:49 PM No.63899866
>>63897577
Do Marines have that kind of hand eye coordination? Chief did that with cortona basically puppeting him
Replies: >>63899911 >>63901543
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:41:47 PM No.63899911
>>63899866
Depends on the source, but pretty much yeah
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:47:18 PM No.63899933
Melta > Bolter
Replies: >>63899945 >>63901329
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:50:49 PM No.63899945
>>63899933
If your enemies are never more than 10 feet away from you, maybe.
Replies: >>63900075 >>63900281 >>63901329 >>63901617
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:25:11 PM No.63900075
>>63899945
are you fucking fat? run in there, soldier.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 10:13:35 PM No.63900281
Warhammer multi melta spongebob fish
Warhammer multi melta spongebob fish
md5: c2506b0ebcbf69e30714a414da73194e๐Ÿ”
>>63899945
Melta and Multi Melta have an insane ammount of range, what are you talking about
Replies: >>63901329
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:56:36 AM No.63901167
>>63894409
Yeah but they have the emotional maturity and impulse control of 12-year-olds so it balances out
Replies: >>63901211
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 3:14:25 AM No.63901211
>>63901167
what's the 40k equivalent to crayon eating?
Replies: >>63901244
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 3:26:43 AM No.63901244
>>63901211
Crayon eating, except the crayons are made out of recycled corpses
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc
6/27/2025, 3:55:53 AM No.63901323
People who did nothing wrong: The mob of WPK Guards who took down a 40k Space Marine using only 3 KPVs, a couple of anti tank mines and a few hundred lives.

In The End and The Death aka Siege of Terra they have civilian militia taking down Marines efficiently, it isn't all that hard. It's a 75-1 ratio but they had the numbers.
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc
6/27/2025, 3:58:13 AM No.63901329
>>63899945
>>63900281
>>63899933
Also: If you are a baseline human in 40k your first choice of personal defense weapon is always meltagun.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:24:16 AM No.63901382
>>63893893
Unless I am missing something /tg/ has pirated most Black Library novels, Imperial Armour and codices from multiple editions and you can't find the "baneblade was a light tank" quote anywhere. I think people added this at 1d4chan from some old forum supposedly citing some other publication, most probably some early WD magazine.
Replies: >>63901468 >>63910944
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:30:50 AM No.63901397
>>63893889
>But then we get shit like the DAOT ship that can manipulate time so that if it misses its blackhole cannon shot, it can force you back along your own time axis so that you exist exactly where the shot would have hit you so it doesn't miss.
Admittedly that ship was a fucking continent sized superweapon that even the DAOT was scared of and refused to finish the construction of. To say nothing of whatever is inside it (the only things we know are that it's not AI and that it's not fussed about bodily destruction).
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:34:13 AM No.63901409
>>63889786
>has that stupid as fuck anarchist/punk haircut
Only thing stopping me from romancing her. I will continue to rizz the tsundere purple fish lady.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:36:37 AM No.63901421
>>63894115
>. There was a genuine danger that humanity might go extinct
Aren't they still by far the most numerous race besides the Orks even after that "borderline extinction"?
Replies: >>63901486 >>63901648 >>63910994
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:41:25 AM No.63901433
>>63894429
I don't want 40k normalized. Normalfags already ruined Star Wars and Magic: The Gathering for me. My local gym has started seeing women recording themselves for the 'gram. Guns and 40k are all I have left.
Replies: >>63901468
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:42:54 AM No.63901441
>>63895314
Your Ukraine thread is a few pages down, anon.
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc
6/27/2025, 4:52:56 AM No.63901468
>>63901382
Correct.

'Baneblade/Land Raider is a light tank' came from a very well written /tg/ fanfiction supposing that it was originally a exploration vehicle and that the sponsons were sensor platforms.

It was made semi canon as Arkan Land in 'Lord of Mankind' has a altered transport STC that has a quad volkite turret gun, twin quantum laser destroyer sponsons, multipole refractive shields, enough space to fit 3 squads, a dreadnought, hovers and has a on board Jakero.

>>63901433
40k will never be normalized, if Catholic Space Nazis with tolerant reformist Roman style leaders get normalized then...

Fuck it, sign me up. Best thing to happen to humanity since the disaster of (IRL) First Council of Nicaea in 325.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:01:02 AM No.63901486
>>63901421
You have to factor in ten thousand years of population recovery
Replies: >>63901516
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:12:46 AM No.63901516
>>63901486
No I mean even in the Great Crusade era they had a million+ worlds from pure discovery when even the biggest non-Ork one (Q'orl or something like that) only hits 20k worlds.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:22:47 AM No.63901543
>>63899866
No, ignore the marine wankers. They are a bit harder to kill but they still die easily enough. They live and die as the plot calls for it.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:49:29 AM No.63901617
>>63899945
The range on the melta varies by depiction from fifteen feet to like fifty yards. It also varies from a cone to a phaser beam that shoots straight through tanks. Simple, just get your melta from the canon that says the later.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:51:42 AM No.63901622
>>63898502
They'd run out of ammo in one engagement. The OP says the guys and the kit they have on them not their whole chapter armory. Each of them has what, ten mags at best?
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 6:03:40 AM No.63901648
>>63901421
The Tyranids easily outnumber all other races- likely combined- in sheer biomass.

Considering the multiple hive fleets coming in from radically different directions and angles relative to the galactic plane, its possible that the Nids have completely surrounded the galaxy on all available fronts.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 6:37:06 AM No.63901741
Can modern missiles even lock on shaq-sized targets? With their reflexes, speed and armor they could probably dodge in the last moment to prevent a direct hit. What kind of payload would be best then to get past their armor? Airburst and tungsten balls/flechette? They seem to hard to crack for common anti-personel stuff and too quick/mobile for anti-tank.
Replies: >>63901842 >>63902814 >>63904132
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 7:15:17 AM No.63901842
>>63901741
>Can modern missiles even lock on shaq-sized targets?
Javelins have been used against individuals.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:28:17 PM No.63902773
>>63895259
just drone the fuckers with shaped charges
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:39:40 PM No.63902814
>>63901741
My dude, bayonet charges kill them.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 8:07:28 PM No.63904076
>>63889690
>totally immune to anything smaller than a .50 cal and even those are basically doing nothing unless they hit the eye lenses.
>grey knight dies to literal knight on horseback
>space marines getting fucked up by rabid hobos armed with clubs and bones
>WB chaplain killed by hobo with a stick
>die to basic bitch orks with rusty pipes
marine fanboys are the worst.
Replies: >>63914945
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 8:08:38 PM No.63904078
>>63889732
>modern ATGMs aren't designed for hitting human sized targets.
good thing marines are the size of a small car with a max speed of 80kph
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 8:11:10 PM No.63904086
>>63893093
>Something like The Culture
a DaoT crew popped in modern 40k. the population of the planet they were on killed all of them. I can definitely see golden age mankind being better than trek but no way they were on the level of the culture considering the imperium barely has control of the milky way
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 8:19:38 PM No.63904129
>>63895710
that level of nonsense is what Tzeench does when he's too bored to apply effort.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 8:19:57 PM No.63904132
RPG FPS
RPG FPS
md5: 9dc13ab36803beef2415d2539d4c2b65๐Ÿ”
>>63901741
Thunderhawks have less ammo than jets that would be sent after them. Less range and speed than half of the current fighter jets in the world.

Marines suffer from the "Battletech problem" where writers fuck up the scale of warfare. In reality battletech has like 5 non light mechs per planet that humans inhabit. Space marines are lesser mechs. They couldn't hold five city blocks with a company before being surrounded.

Most buildings weight limit per step is less than a quarter of a space marine in power armor. If you want to clear a tower you gotta blow it down or send scouts in.... Thats a lot of scouts per city.

The ammunition per marine, and assuming they produce only ammunition and not repair junk while dissecting their space ships for ammo. They still don't have enough ammo to kill three million soldiers. The world has over 700 million potential soldiers. Enough guns to arm the world, and the next three generations including the infants.

Space marines are lethargic specialists that rely on being attacked to do anything decent in casualties. They suck when it comes to artillery. Imagine being Imperial guard on an apocalypse game, you have 1000 marines on their side. Half a mile of table space away you get to place five times their points cost in Deathstrike Missiles. With reinforcements every second turn of the same number of deathstrike missiles.

Then add nukes. And the fact that there's enough RPG's in the world that goes "bullet speed, like most missiles travel" as image implies.
Replies: >>63905371
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 8:27:55 PM No.63904166
>>63890316
Once in battle they don't need almost anything to keep going other than ammo. They can eat almost anything, basically never sleep, and most are trained to live forever on deathworlds if need be.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 12:25:16 AM No.63905371
>>63904132
>tfw a RPG is higher velocity than a canonical stub pistol bullet
Replies: >>63906588
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 4:54:16 AM No.63906588
>>63905371
In one book a normal pistol broke the skin of a primarch.
In another book a primarch toppled a titan with his strength alone.
Replies: >>63907456 >>63910348
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:59:44 AM No.63907456
>>63906588
>In another book a primarch toppled a titan with his strength alone.
He briefly stopped the foot and was still on course to get squashed.
Replies: >>63910348
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 1:50:17 AM No.63910348
>>63906588
>>63907456
You can always get stupid scaling between authors, like someone will say a primarch is a hundred times stronger than any human psyker, then another guy will have a psyker overload a battle barges shields and blast it in half with his mind, then another will have the main battery on a battle barge crack a continent straight in half, making it a little confusing why they even need exterminatus specific weapons.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:42:09 AM No.63910944
>>63901382
Yes, 99% of 40K fanwank (exactly like the ones in this thread) is in fact pure fanfiction and completely made up. It's all made up bullshit that gets repeated and grows more impressive with every telling.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:58:16 AM No.63910994
>>63901421
Just ignore him, he's some retard who thinks /tg/ fanfiction is canon, and copy-pasting large tracts of text from the wiki is impressive.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:31:29 AM No.63911092
>>63889792
>drop pods launched
>decimated by Aegis, THAAD, Patriot batteries in succession.
> Thunderhawks smoked hundreds of miles beyond visual range with no known missile capabilities to respond.
> Drop pods launched indistinguishable from space based nuclear launches so contingency plans for continuity of government are activated
> If anyone makes it groundside they are raped by MLRS and air support as ballistic trajectory is easily calculated.

I suppose we don't have counters to orbital bombardment but an orbital insertion would be a massacre.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:41:45 AM No.63911124
>>63889675 (OP)
You couldn't. Their plot armor shrugs off cyclonic torpedoes and virus bombs. Pitiful modern-day weapons of mass destruction couldn't hope to harm them.
Replies: >>63914722
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:50:31 AM No.63911468
>>63889675 (OP)
You could annihilate them with ClF3. For you 40k players, it's the real life equivalent of phosphex. It loves burning ceramic materials in particular, and is used in the semiconductor industry to burn vapor deposition chambers clean.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 1:43:34 PM No.63912302
>>63911092
This is why IG artillery is capped at WW2 levels of range and precision.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:57:50 PM No.63914561
>>63911092
You don't think they open up on the anti air from space before even thinking of sending drop pods down? The IOM is dumb, but they aren't that dumb.
Replies: >>63914583 >>63914651 >>63914877
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:02:33 AM No.63914583
>>63914561
The IOM is canonically that dumb. They're crippled by dogma and doctrine.
Replies: >>63914651 >>63914722
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:24:51 AM No.63914651
01-01
01-01
md5: 847c17d118325fd75fc5561a94f44573๐Ÿ”
>>63914583
>>63914561
You can solve the problem by simply throwing more meat at the problem first.
Than drop spesh marens on C&C and ither High value points to cripple the enemy ability to organise effectively.
Cant have air power without airports.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:39:09 AM No.63914704
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singularity_Sky

This book is a good exploration of a Legally Distinct Imperium of Man meeting a more realistic western one - basically Sweden in space - among others. They have lots of big gun space battleships, archaeotech, an Inquisition and more; but compared to generic future manufacturing's consequences, it's just not impressive.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:43:11 AM No.63914722
>>63911092
>>63914583
See >>63911124
Exterminatus is a minor inconvenience for spess muhreens.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 1:24:23 AM No.63914877
>>63914561
They would. The Imperium's technology in general is retarded and cartoonishly advance simultaneously. The Marines also get most of the choice gear making them more dangerous on every level. Even a mid sized frigate if theirs would have the sensors and onboard computers needed to scan the planet, automatically detect suspected military infrastructure and organize all of that info automatically and project a big interactive holographic map of the world and automatically put together a bunch of preferred attack plans. The marines would then formulate their own plans off the back of that info. If they're not one of the completely retarded chapters then their usual MO is surgical orbital strikes, followed by atmospheric air attacks against choice targets or to suppress surviving air power, all while drop pod insertions, and teleport insertions target the most critical command centers in order to cripple the enemies ability to organize resistance.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 1:46:41 AM No.63914945
>>63904076
>die to basic bitch orks with rusty pipes
*instinctual reality benders with enough physical strenght to punch through thick steel with no issues
Replies: >>63915001
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:02:28 AM No.63915001
>>63914945
Plus some of them are way smarter than the average ork, and will use the common perception of their kind to their advantage. Like that group of kommandos that hijacked a tau ship, rigged the reactor to blow, and then set course for the biggest tau shipyard in the system. They succedded because the tau didn't even verify the identity of the crew because "PFFFT, orks can't make plans with more than two steps, let them past the defenses, of course it's our guys."
Replies: >>63915045
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:03:10 AM No.63915004
>>63911092
>weapons designed to shoot down thin skinned atmospheric missiles, not tank-like re-entry vehicles
>they can strike globally at will, those defenses would need to be in the right place at the right time

Nah, they wonโ€™t do much.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:13:50 AM No.63915045
ork
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md5: 0281a016723c7efb6929114bddc21ce0๐Ÿ”
>>63915001
big 'ead'z means big finkin
Replies: >>63915102
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:26:21 AM No.63915102
>>63915045
I remembered it wrong, It was a transport ship they hijacked, and they didn't rig it to blow, they used it to get inside that starport so they could kill everyone in it, so it could no longer refuel and rearm a bigass tau battleship that was keeping their WAAAAGH from landing on a planet it was protecting. My point still stands though, no one expects orks to be that smart, and kommandos often use that to their advantage.