Thread 63892155

MARSOC URGI Edition

Old: >>63886216

First for mini-recce

>>63892159
more like mini-reddit gotem

>>63892159
Second for mini recce

None of you can compare.

A2, if you read this redpill (or in modern parlence, truthnuke or truke) me on potential signature problems as a result of the forward venting nature of the HK416 gas block.
And while on the topic of the 416, how bad is rearward blowback on the gas piston? That is how many mags until your hand is absolutely covered in carbon? I know it has gas rings and those largely eliminate leakage in AR bolts but I can't find any slowmo footage of 416 piston that clearly shows the piston cycling.

>>63892204
trvke, if you will

>>63892131
That is a magpul Tmag THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!

>>63892168
is she shilling steel plates?

>>63892168
True. He is a God compared to us. He actually trains and has guns :/

>>63892222
checked

>>63892250
>PRICE ALERT!!!
>PRICE ALERT!!!
>PRICE ALERT!!!

MAGPUL TMAGS ARE ON SALE FOR 19 DUBLOONS FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE LEO OR MIL!!!! GET EM' BEFORE THE RED ARMY INVADES!!!

>>63892271
What if I'm not part of ZOG?

>>63892277
That mistake will cost you two extra dubloons. ($21 USD)

>>63892284
Why would I ever buy a shitty flexy cracky mag when brownells mags exist?

>>63892271
>od green
when are they coming in smoke or black?

>>63892325
You posted a hot pregnant fox woman, so by default you are correct. I kneel, grovel, and beg for mercy.

>>63892341
As you should. Now get some good browny mags
https://www.brownells.com/gun-parts/magazines/rifle-magazines-parts/ar-15-magazines-aluminum/

>>63892155 (OP)
GOD DAM vcog drip is sooo fucking sexy!!! I regret selling it and using that money to fuck a local whore but fuck me she drain me dry

>>63892349
I have 20 milsurp OKAY ind. mags, and a bunch of pmags. I don't need anymore steel mags because I am out of places to put them lmao

>>63892365
>I have 20 milsurp OKAY ind. mags
Fair enough I'd say those are better than brownells anyways.
>brownells coupon code for 15% off on all of their own products don't work on their mags
Assholes. I think I need to get a few more anyways I have mainly pmags and only 10 aluminum brownells mags.

>>63892253
Only the finest ARMORED REPUBLIC.
FOR THE REPUBLIC.
WATCH THOSE 20" WRIST ROCKETS.
THEY CALLED IN THE SOOPERS.
WE HAVE CAPTURED A SOLD OUT YOUTUBER.
THE ENEMY IS LOSING THEIR CERAMICS.
IT'S HESCO DOOKU.

>>63892349
I got a bunch for $8.50 last year you might want to wait for a sale.

>>63892155 (OP)
Why does /arg/ always seem like the best thread to shitpost in?

>>63892396
Because it's /arg/
>Autistic
>Retards
>General

>>63892400
Even when they announce their bait /k/ still takes the bait.

I'm doing a complete detox tomorrow of everything.
I'm going to suffer a lot and it's going to suck.

>>63892448
Detox from what? My only vice is Zyns. I don't drink, don't eat sugar, etc. It can't be that bad.

>>63892155 (OP)
MARSOC URGIs look SOOOOOO good its unreal. Almost makes me want to get an NT4 and a VCOG but I already dont like putting my RC2 on my 14.5 URGI and I hate LPVOs because they weigh infinity pounds

>>63892448
It's probably not as bad as you think. It might fuck up your sleep schedule a bit.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH IM GUNSOOOOOOOOOMING

>>63892507
The block 2 looks far fucking better.

>>63892602
yes she does

I asked Chat GPT to make a tiers list of the top 15 AR15 manufacturers and their best rifle. What are your thoughts on this list? Did your rifle make the list?


1: Knight’s Armament Company (KAC)
Best AR-15: SR-15 E3 MOD 2
Why: Proprietary bolt, extreme durability, unmatched combat pedigree, elite unit usage.

2: LMT
Best AR-15: MARS-L
Why: Full ambi lower, enhanced bolt, monolithic upper option, proven in global contracts.

3: H&K
Best AR-15: MR556 (civilian HK416)
Why: Short-stroke piston, legendary durability, SOCOM adoption.

4: Geissele
Best AR-15: Super Duty URG-I
Why: Military upper contract, superb machining, premium parts like SSA-E trigger.

5: BCM
Best AR-15: RECCE-16 MCMR
Why: Combat-proven, properly gassed, lightweight, widely used by professionals.

6: SOLGW
Best AR-15: M4-76
Why: Bombproof rifles, lifetime warranty, superb QC and attention to spec.

7: Centurion Arms
Best AR-15: CM4 MOD 2
Why: Built for duty use by a former SEAL, solid parts, no-frills, high-quality.

8: ADM
Best AR-15: UIC MOD 2
Why: Best ambi lower in its class, top-shelf components, duty-ready.

9: Daniel Defense
Best AR-15: DDM4 V7
Why: Cold hammer-forged barrels, solid combat platform, LE adoption.

10: LaRue Tactical
Best AR-15: PredatAR 5.56
Why: DMR-level precision, top machining, not lightweight but highly accurate.

11: Radian Weapons
Best AR-15: Model 1
Why: Best-in-class ambi controls, excellent fit/finish, premium boutique rifle.

12: Triarc Systems
Best AR-15: TR-15
Why: Tuned gas, match barrels, accuracy-focused but battle-capable.

13: Noveske Rifleworks
Best AR-15: Gen 4 N4
Why: Legendary barrel quality, beefy and reliable, premium parts.

14: VLTOR
Best AR-15: VIS (custom builds)
Why: Monolithic system, extremely rigid and durable, uncommon but high-end.

15: Wilson Combat
Best AR-15: Protector Series
Why: 100% in-house, premium boutique brand with excellent QC and components.

>>63892662
>LMT
>Top 15
kekkerino

>>63892662
>SOLGW
lmao

>>63892662
reddit GPT

>>63892662
>DD
>9th
it got this right at least

I told chat gpt to reply back promoting it to feel free to be as snarky and autistic as you assholes

>>63892689

“LMT Top 15 kek”
Response:
Cry harder. Your clone build is dogshit and your bolt’s about to shear.
>>63892691

“SOLGW lmao”
Response:
Post your gas port size. I’ll wait.
>>63892691

“reddit GPT”
Response:
Bold of you to talk shit from a Chinese cartoon forum with a DPMS in your closet.

>>63892662
About as good as this infographic I made as a joke.

>>63892713
that last one goes pretty hard tho

>>63892733
What’s your issue with it ?

>>63892763
Nothing

>>63892413
I don't think I like "you poeple". I don't like your attitudes. I don't like the infighting. You should all be nicer, or I will taunt you. Let the shitposting begin!

>>63892662
You forgot PSA.

>>63892782
Are you sure?

>>63892713
>Bold of you to talk shit from a Chinese cartoon forum with a DPMS in your closet.
tfw I want a Kitty Kat even though I own several of those high-tier rifles/components

>>63892789
I almost took the bait anon.

>>63892662
>Noveske
>Legendary barrel quality
This was true for, like, maybe 2 or 3 years around 2010?
John was one of the few/first to offer 1:8 stainless twists before he died, but it's not like he was even turning them in house.
As far as I remember their OG barrels were green mountain.
Now they're just a gay skateboard/beard/PNW/dudeweed/gunbro company.

>>63892822
It does seem to factor in reputation/history even if it doesn’t translate into a better rifle. An earlier iteration had colt at #5 and FN at #6 but that was so egregious I told it to make the list of best manufacturers currently.

>>63892800
I want to pet that cat

>>63892662
>top tier
>not a single rifle on this list is derl approved
Burned on top of the spare tire in the trunk of the car of the person responsible for compiling this.
>just as derl instructed

>>63892922
Fair enough.
I will say in defense of Colt they seem to be the last proper 30rd. dry film mag that seats on a closed bolt, even if they are $25 a pop.
I know they don't make them, but even the suresneed magazines I got weren't quite right.

I think I'm gonna get an xcr m next month. Still waiting for Robinson to ship the final parts of my 300 chimp.

Not buying a UXR in the year of our Saint Gendron's Trial

>>63892800
I unironically like DPMS lowers, I just think they are funny. Got a buddy who plopped an SR15 upper he got on a DPMS lower as a joke, but then just never took it off so it lives on there now. As a result DPMS is associated with quality in my head probably more than it should be

>>63893012
>UXR

>>63893012
I got a ras 5 its better

>>63893054
Oh wait you are talking about the shitty pws rifle

>>63893054
Hideous

When is KAC gonna exist again? I want to get a URX3.1 without spending a grand

>>63893063
I mean they could have added a qd to the front

Ran out of clenzoil, need new lube. Which motor oil is the least smelly?

>>63893071
It wouldn’t matter it looks like any other bottom clamp handguard

>>63893043
Yeah I never had an old DPMS, but the panther rollmark is unironically cool and nostalgic. I’m sure nu-DPMS is just rebranded PSA jank, but for sub-$600 it seems like a lulzy FRT host or decent entry-level 300 blackout pistol.

>>63893071
If you didn’t tell me this was kac I would assume it was psa or airshit.

>>63893054
>$900

>>63893086
I want to give bio-G96 a shot
Coom is developing nicely

Blue bullets are back on the menu

https://www.shootingnewsweekly.com/atf/atf-reinterprets-rules-to-allow-import-of-utm-simunition-training-rounds-dual-use-barrels/

>>63893102
PSD had them for $450

>>63892662
>Short-stroke piston
That's a downside compared to DI DESU

>>63892155 (OP)
Official verdict on Sionics? I've heard good things about them online and they have a solid LE reputation and aren't gucci priced.

>>63892662
Noveske went down the shitter when John died and his wife or whoever took over.

>>63893204
I wouldn't buy any of their stuff at MSRP.
>cons
Less accurate than Criterion, barrel countour could be better.
>pros
Good used prices on GAFS. Best deal on the market if you were able to get one of the LE trade in uppers.

my horoscope for today has to do with networking and manifesting a better life through friendships and furthering my goals
A2 can i come live with you as a gun store apprentice

>>63893071
You won't use it anyways

>>63893253
You shouldn't buy anything at MSRP, period

>>63893911
LMAO

>>63892662
>I asked an overpowered search engine to think for me
You know this shit is just all pulled straight from reddit right?
Before AI did you start threads with
>What is /k/s opinion on ____?
Or
>How do we feel about ____?

>>63892961
It would be very painful
>For you

>>63894207
>/arg/
>Knowing anything about "AI" let alone about AR15s without having to beg A2 for his opinion
Pick one

>>63894230
I don't know anything about AI. It's probably just a trend, I'm not worried about it

>>63894237
Nor should you be. The only thing that it can do is regurgitate internet opinions. So if 100 people say KAC is the best thing since sliced bread, it will say that KAC is the best thing since sliced bread.

>>63894237
it's not "AI" the term is used as plain and simple marketing wank. They are simply prediction algorithms fed from a massive data source. It seems impressive on the service but it's really not that deep

>>63894274
@Grok is this true?

where did the acog thread go? too much actual discussion going on?

>>63892155 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQe27ZqTnac

Would a ruger 8500 or 8529 make a good first AR? I just want something that will work and I don't want to try and assemble one. I only have experience with handguns and limited experience at that.

>>63894406
You could do worse. For $500 more you get a very good rifle though, so just save for another month or two and get something chrome lined and assembled with more care.

>>63894435
Is a chrome lined (barrel I'm assuming) really that important when I'll go the range maybe 1-2 times a month with it?

>>63894406
Um no actually you should spend double the money, buy tools, and piece together something you don't know anything about.

>>63894447
At over 800 bucks youre already in chrome lined territory. July 4th sales should get you a lower and solid upper for around your budget that will be leagues above the ruger.

>>63894406
>800 dollars
There are many better options out there for not much more money. The ruger will "work" no doubt but then it's the most basic bitch non free floated rifle out there that you'll have trouble even mounting a scope on.

>>63894324
Not about Ukraine or Israel, therefore off topic. All nongeneral threads needs to be friendly towards our yuro and thirdy guests so they can play along with the discussion about weapons(they don't own any)

>>63894406
>ruger 8500 or 8529 make a good first AR
no, the FSB is non-milspec for literally no reason so standard accessories designed to fit a milspec FSB won't work. It's not a huge deal, but there's infinity options for AR's with a proper FSB so just get one of those if you want an FSB rifle.

>>63894469
Makes sense. The only guns that got posted were from acog owners and every other post was poorfag seething.

>>63892204
Barrel gets a little kiss of carbon right under the vent but otherwise its very minimal
Ive never owned a 416 that had a >10" barrel with a >9" handguard allowing me to get my hand infront of the gas block but I do be having a SCAR that performs similarly. On the scar it takes like a couple mags of dangling a finger in there before it starts to stain you.

Neither gun belches a cloud of black carbon and obamaifies you in one mag
>>63892733
Back to your thread you go
>>63893124
Yes and no
import? Yes
Sales to you? Probably not
Even when they could import them in the past they were kinda tight dicks about selling them since its the UK and canada lmafo. You know, countries known for individual liberties.
>>63893204
Official Verdict: Dumb company who stole a name from the past to hock ballistic advantage/aero tier products.
Bordering on SOLGW levels of silly
>>63894230
Most offensive is that nobody has the A2LLM based on 80k+ posts from archive.

>>63894489
Long since assumed I was talking to A2Bot

>>63894447
Yes. Defensive use guns get a chrome lining, full stop. You get to argue about that once you have enough round count and fullfilled POUs to not vomit word salad and cite youtuber opinions.

1-2 times a month is a great shooting schedule desu. Excited for you.

>>63892396
>>63892782
>>63892812
I haven't begun to shipost!

>>63894489
>This face when no A2AIGF

wots a good bipod for an lmg build?

do NOT be mean to me.

So I shouldn't be looking to spend less than 800$ and I need a chromed barrel and a mil-spec FSB. Anything else?

>>63894646
>Anything else?
Wait until 4th of July sales come around. You can get a blem geissele, bcm (probably) and other rifles which are top tier by modern standards. That is all.

>>63894489
Sionics is good you lying nigger

>>63894646
https://aimsurplus.com/products/leo-trade-in-colt-m4-carbine-223556-16in-ar15-rifle-black
If you dont feel like building
>>63894524
Yes — under normal daytime conditions you should expect to talk to an A2Bot
>>63894658
No. They dont make anything, they are a name selling rebranded shit from random mid tier OEMs.
Begone.
>>63894627
Post LMG build first

>>63894646
Can leave the FSB to your preference of have/not to have.

If your gun has good guts you can tweak it down the line to fit your needs. If its over torqued trash with cheap ass BCG parts you won't know until a few range trips in most likely. Avoid that by having reasonible spending expectations.

Sounds dumb/pedantic but a rollmark you don't mind looking at is nice if this is going to be a gun you are sticking with for the long haul.

>>63894646
No, wrong. You CAN get a chrome lined barrel for that price, whether you WANT one depends on the goals for your build. Chrome lining is great for a general purpose rifle or one you intend to shoot a lot. If you're more concerned about accuracy there are better options (stainless steel) or if you don't shoot a ton nitride is fine (and probably more accurate than some cheap chrome lined barrels).
You don't NEED an FSB either, again that depends on what you want.

Broke:
If you want a basic bitch "civilian m4" there are plenty of options DSA, BKF, brownells, RRA, etc all sell chrome lined FSB uppers for a reasonable price, buy one of those and slap it on literally any lower. Total budget around $700

Bespoke:
Geissele complete blem upper (around $650-700) and slap it on literally any lower. Total budget around $900 depending on how nice you want it to be.

>>63894664
>hey dont make anything, they are a name selling rebranded shot
Yeah, like a majority of AR companies. Sionics consistently gauges exceptionally well for their BCG's (both normal and NP3) and their barrels have excellent reviews as well.
You're being a nigger because it's not your heckin favorite brand, straight up lying about the quality of their products. Cringe shit my dude

>>63894672
I mean I want something nice that will last so I don't have to go out and buy another too soon.

Also could I buy a 10rd CA cucked version and then use a bought separately 30 rd mag with it?

what do you all think of my new meta list. I am thinking the best 300 blk spr may be a scar 15p w/ bipod and a LVPO

General Purpose Rifle is such a weird way of saying SBR with a can.
>the general purpose of your rifle is to shoot people.

>>63894664
>Post LMG build first

colt 11.5 IAR with an frt lower

>>63894695
>Hocking rebranded generic parts is okay because my favorite youtube gauger bench raced them against other parts ill never own
Wow cool anon. Call me when they offer literally anything over others on the market.
>>63894706
>My 9mm GPR
What?

>>63892662
>Prompt
Order the 15 best AR15 manufacturers and the best rifle they make.
Criteria is parts materials, reliability, accuracy, and quality control all weighted equally. Disregard cost.
1 is best 15 is worst.
At the start of your response include a brief summary of where you are pulling the information you used to make these decisions and how you organized that information to arrive at your conclusions.

>Summary of Methodology:
This ranking is based on aggregated data from credible firearm industry sources, including SME reviews (e.g., Sage Dynamics, Garand Thumb, TFB TV), military/law enforcement contract history, performance in high-round-count testing, online community consensus from vetted sources (e.g., AR15.com, M4Carbine.net, Primary & Secondary), and manufacturers' reputations for metallurgy, quality control, and long-term durability. Each manufacturer was evaluated equally across four categories: materials, reliability, accuracy, and quality control. Cost was excluded entirely from consideration.

>Continued

>>63894717
its for generals.

>>63893911
kek but trAsh would do it for free

>>63894737
>Preface
It gave a one liner about why it chose each one but I deleted it to fit within the character limit
1. Knight’s Armament Company (KAC)

Best Rifle: SR-15 E3 MOD 2


2. LMT (Lewis Machine & Tool)

Best Rifle: MARS-L


3. Daniel Defense

Best Rifle: DDM4 V7


4. BCM (Bravo Company Manufacturing)

Best Rifle: Recce-16 MCMR


5. Hodge Defense

Best Rifle: AU-Mod 2


6. Sons of Liberty Gun Works (SOLGW)

Best Rifle: M4-89


7. Geissele Automatics

Best Rifle: Super Duty Rifle


8. Centurion Arms

Best Rifle: CM4

9. FN America

Best Rifle: FN15 Tactical Carbine II


10. Noveske Rifleworks

Best Rifle: Gen 4 N4


11. LaRue Tactical

Best Rifle: PredatAR 5.56


12. ADM (American Defense Manufacturing)

Best Rifle: UIC Mod 2


13. Wilson Combat

Best Rifle: Protector Series 5.56


14. Colt

Best Rifle: LE6920 (Discontinued, but legendary)
15. Radian Weapons

Best Rifle: Model 1

>>63894705
You are generally getting good advice thrown your way right now. I would steer you to a slightly more premium brand, like BCM/Centurion/BRT, but you already have a Colt literally linked right to you that will age well, and the anons pitching in are all more or less on the same wavelength for budget chrome lined barrel option.

You've got all you need to do this right anon. Pull the trigger on what you like most.

>>63894722
>Call me
Exceptionally well gauging BCG's and high quality barrels, read nigger read

>>63894706
>300bl spr
Why would anyone bother?

>>63894706
mp5 aint meta

>>63894753
shut up, cumhorn.

>>63894753
I've never bought a used firearm before, is there anything I should know or be concerned with? Same with buying from AIM and doing a FFL transfer. Before I just went to my LGS and bought something in stock.

>>63894721
I'm sure a Harris SBR would work well. Or atlas if going for a sick clone build

>>63894761
supersonic 300blk can probly get mean, plus better b a r r i e r penetration

>>63894706
I unironically don't know why anyone would want 300blk for anything besides home defense with subs so you don't blow your ears out.
>5.56 GPR
Looks heavy but the thermal and magnifier are detachable so whatever. Unfortunately that's just the reality of gizmomaxxing I mean force multipliers.

>5.56 SPR
Is that a LAM on a diving board?
Not a fan if so. if it's some kind of range finder I'm also not a fan and that indicates losing the plot.
Would rather see you with a real scope instead of an LPVO but it is what it is.

Idk man if you're happy with it then who cares but your consistent validation seeking indicates otherwise.

>>63894789
300 blk supers have knockdown power unlike puny 5.56.

>>63894788
>plus better b a r r i e r penetration
Not enough velocity to exploit a 30cal projectile tbqh

>>63894786
yeah vert grip + bipod was probly the way i was gonna go. its a shame grip pods are shit

>>63894794
What's the best rifle for magic find?

>>63894821
#4 buckshot
You want to leave the armor intact as possible

>>63894783
If you were getting like, a consignment gun at an LGS then yeah, 100% you gotta worry about stuff.

But the used trade in Colt is a pretty safe bet. It got just enough use to be essentially a functions check without ever getting the barrel properly hot I can assure you.

>>63894706
>gun with red dot+magnifier and foregrip is a "GPR"
>exact same gun but with bipod and LPVO is an "SPR"
Is it really that much fun being so pedantic?

>>63894810
There are a few spicy baby 308s around, but nothing ubiquitous and relativity cheap

>>63894907
>LPVO is an "SPR"
Nope

>>63894683
Is BKF actually good to go? I've been looking at some of their stuff for a while

>>63894706
>zero paint
lmao

>>63894926
Most of their barrels are Ballistic Advantage, nothing super fancy but they work fine. Otherwise they are generally similar to old Aero quality, nothing fancy but generally decent quality milspec

>>63894907
They also have slightly longer barrels

>9/10 "SPR"s are just desert or mountain guns

You probably didn't into SPR.

>>63895083
>SPR"s are just desert or mountain guns
I mean, yeah. It was literally created due to the longer ranges of confrontation in middle eastern deserts and the mountains of Afghanistan

>>63894907
An SPR is built to squeeze every bit of distance out of a 5.56. At the expense of weight, durability, cost and flexibility. If a build didn't do that, it's not an SPR
GPR is just another way to say "M4".
Don't @ me.

>>63895110
If it's got a bipod and magnified optic on it then it's an SPR, sorry not sorry

>>63895102
An SPR is fitted for filling a particular roll in an assualt. Just outfitting your gun for terrain is hardly a "special purpose".

Everyone wants to put guns in neat boxes to catergorize them but forgets that all of these gear decisions need to be made in conjunction with a team and some semblance of a plan/training.

SPRs were developed to support a maneuver element or defense. Not out of a lack of mag or reach out of the M4. They fill a niche a 30cal DMR isn't ideally suited for and were birthed out of that particular need.

>>63895102
>It was literally created due to the longer ranges of confrontation in middle eastern deserts and the mountains of Afghanistan
Except the mk12 predates afghanistan.

>A GPR is this
>An SPR is that
who cares

>>63895137
>They fill a niche a 30cal DMR isn't ideally suited for
Do they though? Seems like they need a DMR but just don't want to carry the weight

>>63895123
>>63895144
Wait... even better.

>>63895153
If you have to deal with picky eye relief and adjustable stock is better
Shooting standing and prone puts your head in very different places

>>63895137
Skelly, shut the fuck up.
No shit an SPR is a roll specific gun, it's right in the name you fucktard. That's not really relevant to the conversation in any case. And yes, long sight lines is a special purpose when it affects the mission at hand.
>Not out of a lack of mag or reach out of the M4.
That is exactly why they were created, are you actually retarded?

>>63895137
>>63895164
Role*
>>63895151
Mo ammo
Less respect needed for positioning

>>63895142
Yeah I misspoke. They were conveniently created 1 year before the war in Iraq would start, and then extensively used throughout the middle east, because they were perfect for the longer sight lines (longer effective range with 5.56 being the original goal of the SPR program).

>>63895151
Not quite. A DMR lacks ammo sustainmemt and interchangability with the fireteam/squad. An SPR is typically keeping up with the gang and locking down/killing fixed position threats.

A DMR is typically a posted asset, or best spending their time looking for suitable targets.

The SPR is providing the desired precison and reach on the maneuver, or enabling movement.

>>63895144
Fair point, exception for prism optics
>>63895153
Doesn't count gripods will never be a real bipod

>>63895164
>start a conversation deliberately to steer it
>get told not part of the conversation
Huh. Don't worry, buddy that strike eagle 100% makes your Sport II an SPR if you say so.

>>63895180
Grippods might not be real bipods but they are unironically high tier operator shit.

>>63895185
>that strike eagle 100% makes your Sport II an SPR
Rude. It's an SPR (ish) because it has an SS 18" barrel, PRI handguard and a high power scope. It is not a true SPR since that is a specific weapon platform. It's function is similar to an SPR however in that it's maximizing the effectiveness of 5.56 (in my case, the Special Purpose is shooting steel silhouettes). I don't know what you talking about assaulter roles has to do with anything. There are many other mission types and SPR's are used in those too.

>tfw my lower has reddit finger
rip

>>63895206
Eww

>>63895201
Very based rifle, I rescend my accusations of poorfaggery. However...

All firefights fall under aggressor/defender dynamics. This can be a fluid situation where things change back and forth. You either want the bad guys to go away, or you want to go get to them. Weapons are issued and employed to those ends.

>>63895201
Jesus Christ how horrifying.

>>63895123
>If it's got a bipod and magnified optic on it then it's an SPR
If only there was a way to find out what an SPR really was! Too bad it was a top-secret DoD program. Alas, I fear there will never be anything publicly divulged about its shadowy development and use. Nothing but rumors and innuendo exist.
>sorry not sorry
My mistake. Good day, Ma'am.

>>63895243
Interesting, very interesting HOWEVER that doesn't change purpose of an SPR, which is/was to maximize the effective range of 5.56
>>63895246
they don't call it the Tenmile for nothing

>>63895274
You are wrong about this, they didn't choose 5.56, it is required by the logistics of that being the standard. To properly fullfil the mission/role you need to make flat shooting far reaching 5.56.

>>63894966

i was at the army event in dc, the rangers didnt paint their URGI or scars or m249s either

Gentlemen, what would be a fair, non-reddit asking price for a very used surefire 660 and m25 mount?

guys is this the meta for the RECCE SPR CQB PDW?

>>63895286
This is a circular argument. The "special role" is maximizing 5.56's effectiveness. That by itself is irrelevant to the mission.
You can boil down the existence of literally every gun to "supporting maneuver element or defense" if you're wanting to be that pedantic

at last someone has created the perfect do it all gun

>>63895341
>>63895359
our time is at hand

>>63894664
>They dont make anything, they are a name selling rebranded shit from random mid tier OEMs.
Source? Is their warehouse just completely devoid of any manufacturing equipment?


I wish I could talk about my new job but the DOD/company watches our (department's) social media and internet activity. The work is mysterious and important

Gf is pregnant bros

>>63895341
Ahhhahahaha wtf it looks like a micropenis

>>63895359
>poorfagpul bipod
>law folder
>that trigger guard
>45 degree safety
>mawl
Perfect build for the trash

>>63895341
>>63895359
>>63895363
stubby buffer + 10.5 good to 500 yards are sea level

>>63895366
My condolences, bro.
I find it's easiest to just report them to ICE and have them deported so I don't have to pay for child support or an abortion.

>>63895347
Sure, we are arguing only over definitions and not the form of the rifle. But 20" with ye old Colt glass is an SPR by your definition.

You have to categorize based on performative and intended function where it counts (in a gunfight) or we can throw 3 letter acronyms around all day without saying anything.

>>63895372
not a magpul bipod
retard

>>63895363

got to get a bipod and 20 round mag on that POG

>>63895372
>poorfagpul bipod
Are you sure about that?

>>63895366
damn I didnt even realize that was possible congrats

>>63895359
>>63895363
Very nice mini recces

>>63895372
also not a MAWL
lmao euro?

>>63895388
>>63895391
Its not a Harris so I don't care, cope n seethe though

>>63895366
That's it, I'm calling animal control

>>63895397
>cope n seethe though
But I have a harris?

>>63895405
Yea sure you do buddy

>>63895366
..On purpose?

>>63895366
>gf
>pregnant
I'm telling jeebus

>>63895409
Is that really something someone would lie about?

>>63895422
You're asking me to get inside the mind of a seething poorfag and I'm telling you I don't care about you enough to do that

>>63895366
Anon, you are NOT the father!

>>63895366
congrats on being a father to Ash's child.

>>63895402
Kek

>>63895387
There are two definitions of SPR, neither one requires a deep understanding of mission parameters. The first being the literal definition, the second the common parlance.

1. SPR - Special Purpose Receiver (later, Rifle) the literal SPR program by Crane NSWC which created the Mark 12 + MOD 0/1/H. Any MK 12 (including clones or near clones) I would consider a true SPR

2. "SPR" - still means Special Purpose Rifle, however it is not necessarily a clone of a MK 12. Rather, any rifle which maximizes the effective range of 5.56 inline with the objectives of crane NSWC. So a relatively longer, match grade barrel with medium-high magnification. There's no special mission forcing civilians to use 5.56, it's just cheap, plentiful, and good enough for the 600 yd and in shooting that is more common.

>muh performative function in muh gunfights
not something most civilian "SPR" users are too worried about.

>>63895442
Ash hasnt even seen his own dick in a decade
>>63895480
Now this is autism

>>63895519
>/arg/ Armalite Rifle General
oh shit I thought we were still in Autistic Retards General. Don't let skelly find out about the different acronym meanings he'll blow a gasket

>>63895201
My nigger.

>>63895540
I just think the acronym semantics are fucking gay

>>63895169
Hey A2, Polandbro here. Will a 2-10 Credo satisfy my 5.56 DI SPR food group? Or should I splurge for a NF? I shoot 200+ yards maybe twice a year and I'm urban based, so it's not a priority.

>>63895566
changing the acronym wont change the fact we post the same shit every thread, its a funny-haha to make it say any 3 worded phrase with “A.R.G” lettering

I would like to propose a new task driven mission specific AR - the SPQR

there a no specific requirements, other than that it be used to restore the glory of Rome (updated for modern audiences).

>>63895639
Is this from that new Nolan movie?

>>63895639

this

>>63895566
based, the acronyms are the gayest shit ever, LGBTBBQ tier.
>ackshually this is my SPR, it's better than a DPR and a DMR but can't be used for PCC or GPR or recce or HRT.

>>63895675
>Based "gun go bang" enjoyer

>>63895675
true, ISHYGDADT

Idk if Bandai will like this. Kinda goes hard tho

I HATE ALL YOU NIGGAS SO MUCH

>>63895625
>ngal
>xe
FP? What’s the going rate for lasers like that in Poland and greater yurope?

>>63895719
>Kinda goes hard
Fr ong

>>63895742
cool it with fucking acronyms dweeb

>>63895719
Didn't these guys have a full chest rig you could purchase and not just pieces?

>>63895752
Oh

>>63895753
lol no

>>63895719
holy drip

>>63895742
Yep, both are FP, they are just as obtainable as in the US, just need to know some industry people.

>FP xe
$6180 in europoor money
>L3 ngal
About the same, maybe a smidge less.

Don't ask about nod prices, lol. We do get L3 stuff though.

Can next bake be anime themed?
GFL perhaps.

>>63895753
They can just sell you each piece for the price of a chest rig, by the time you have a full chest rig it feels like you've bought 4
How fun!

>>63895797
No, sorry

>>63894406
S&W M&P Sport 2 or 3 would be good choice for your first AR15, given that many LEOs use it as patrol rifle.

>>63895797
The bake can be anything if you're quick enough.

>>63895797
So I started blastin'

>>63895817
The buster rifle was so fucking cool.

>>63893071
Looks like yet another geissele clone barrel nut design.

>>63895201
I need a PRI Delta rail. Shit goes so hard
>>63895554
nice

>>63895719
>how do you do fellow millenial?

>>63895839
I'm personally insulted by this post as I am probably buying that shirt.

>>63895847
Yeah and you were probably born between 1980 and 1997 lol.

>>63895850
>nearly two decades range
Playing it safe, are we? The answer is yes though.

>>63895839
>>63895850
you guys know a new Gundam series just came out right?
It's decent. The Char stuff rules. The average Japanese high school girl and AT field evangelion ripoff bullshit is dumb. My wife keeps asking "what's a Gundam cuck" which is hilarious

>>63895625
For 200yd you will be happy
At longer ranges I think you end up running out of mag

I miss Julie :<

>>63895752
You haven't seen a2 try to sound smart huh

Is ASR actually a good mounting system.

>>63895990
Yes its just heavy

>>63895990
Ive shot out two chf cl barrels only using ASR muzzle devices.
No failures or troubles whatsoever
RTZ/POI shift also good to go on it

>>63895882
zoids drip when?
maybe ocl can furrify liger zero and throw it on a $38 tee shirt

>>63895990
It's close to 8 ounces between the muzzle device and ASR adapter it's solid just obese.

>>63896034
What can is that? OCL?

>>63895359
Is that a left hand charging upper? How is it?

>>63896049
Thats a proper AEM5
Has nothing to do with ASR posting

>>63896037
sheeit don't go giving SupDef ideas. If I had a dripmax company would definitely be stealing that

>>63896034
>two chf cl barrels
big deal is that supposed to be impressive? I was told here that CHF & CL don't really matter

>>63896037
Fuckin loved Zoids. I should really buy some of the HMM models

>>63896044
8 is old gen keymo, 6.7 for ASR
>>63896034
Any thought on Griffin dual lok

>>63896078
>big deal is that supposed to be impressive
not him but CL CHF barrel life is like 20-25k rounds, so he's shot about 50k rounds in just those. If you consider wasting $18k in ammo as impressive.

>>63896088
>Any thought on
He's just gonna say its shit because Griffin and not elaborate further

Just got back from the gym, what did I miss? We discussing best zoid? Blade liger.

Since we're on the topic of muzzle devices and mounting systems was Kevin Brittingham out of his mind on crack when he thought up AAC's 51 and 90 tooth ratchet mount?
"HURR DURR let's put a wear part that disintegrates if you actually attach the can in the way our staff demonstrate it at trade shows onto the actual NFA regulated part of the can"

Went to the range today
Got invited to the 22lr bench rest comp and a nice old guy said I could use his cz457 if I came since I don't have a 22lr bolty
>>63894706
Needs more quad rails

>>63892662
>5: BCM
>Best AR-15: RECCE-16 MCMR
>Why: Combat-proven, properly gassed, lightweight, widely used by professionals.
>Combat-proven
where?
i keep seeing this, who is using them in combat
i know that pat macnamara and larry vickers like them

>>63896137
I used them in combat. It was against cardboard targets, but I've seen some shit.

>>63896124
comfy feels
i really need to find a nice anschutz 141 to go with my grandfathers old 141m and take it to 22lr matches

>>63896137
>professionals
professional guntubers. they're being paid to carry a gun after all.

>>63894489
>Most offensive is that nobody has the A2LLM based on 80k+ posts from archive.
Sounds like a fun project, I'm on it...

>>63896137
Cops

My FRT is getting light primer strikes, what do?

>>63896172
You getting bolt bounce?

>>63896172
Pull trigger harder.

>>63896172
heavier buffer
a lighter BCG or lighter barrel profile would accomplish the same thing though neither are desirable.

>>63896137
>i keep seeing this, who is using them in combat
USMS
ATF SOD
NPS/NFS
CBP
James Madison University

>>63896181
Dunno
>>63896184
Tried lighter and harder
>>63896186
>heavier buffer
Tried that but will try next weight up

>>63896208
what's your barrel length/profile and current buffer weight? Does it function normally in semi?

>>63896137
YouTube is full of nogs getting they wig split by Buffoni blasters, so yes they are proven for their given use case.

>>63896208
>Dunno
If you have a phone or camera with a decent slow-motion setting take video while you shoot one round. If it's high enough frame rate you might be able to catch bounce if you have it. This is most likely the problem and heavier buffer is probably your quickest path to success.

>>63896208
>Dunno

adding to my post here >>63896230
I run an H3 with a flatwire and have success with that. 10.3" barrel, .076 gas port, always suppressed. Works great for me.

>>63896124
>cz457
im fond of mine

>>63896260
Hello fellow 457 enjoyer. Great little rifle for the price.

>>63896191
so they are worth buying then?

>>63896275
not schizofed pastebin approved

>>63896275
JMU is my rival school, so no.

Barrel Question: I am trying to get a 14.5" Colt M4 government profile barrel to replace the 16" one on my M4 Carbine clone.

My understanding is people recommend NOT buying barrels with precut roll pin holes. As it is better to drill fresh holes with the FSB that you plan to use on a virgin barrel?

>Inshallah the short act passes

>>63896394
yeah, predrilled gas blocks are one thing but barrels are way more of a pain. john thomas should be able to do it though

>>63892155 (OP)
>ruger 556
>vortex strike eagle 1-6
Looking at bipods, are the ones from magpul really that shit? What's a good alternative? Willing to pay like $150 max.

>>63896425
>$150
Harris

>>63896404
Got it. I'll just try and find a complete barrel + FSB. I know Colt makes the part number, just haven't seen it for sale in awhile.

>>63896425
Go with the magpul bipod, it is very consistent for the
>Im a fucking idiot
You seem to be going with on the rifle.

>>63896435
Fuck you bitch.

>>63896434
brownells gets them somewhat often

>>63896425
A2 is being snarky but generally its a Harris Swivel-BRM 6-9 podlock

>>63896431
thanks
>>63896435
thank you and kill yourself
>>63896447
thanks

>>63896088
>ASR flash hider 4.1oz
>ASR charlie mount 3.7oz
>total weight 7.8oz

>>63896366
>>63896386
idc about any of that

I don't ask for forgiveness.

>>63896464
Single port broke is only lik e 3oz

>>63896493
What am I even looking at?

>>63896498
3d printed lower.

>>63894706
What is a GPR? Genuine Phucking Retard??? I am so confused bros

>>63896501
General purpose rifle.

>>63896501
>GPR
general purpose rifle
basically a 16 inch barrel with a lpvo

>>63896498
top fed AR

>>63896499
yeah but what on earth is going on with that trigger?

>>63896508
OK, just to be retarded or is there an actual purpose?

>>63896464
This is why I’m going direct mount for my next upper.

>>63896493
What country are you from? You know in the United States, building a firearm for personal use is 100% legal, right? Even if it is not serialized, it is completely legal as long as you do not:
1.Manufacture an NFA class item
2.Manufacture a firearm with the intent to sell it.

>>63896511
it's clearly an SPR (Special Purpose, Retarded)

>>63896502
>>63896506
Oh, okay. I like mine better, but that makes sense.

>>63896493
>>63896508
I know exactly what this thing is. Are you going to be an attention seeking faggot or are you gonna post a clean picture of your rifle? Did it actually work and when spray paint?

>>63896520
The first photo is pretty clean. It needs to wear in a bit more. It short strokes from the added resistance, but it's getting better.

>>63896540
Your mom short strokes me when I add resistance too.

>>63896517
kek

>>63896454
You seem very set on the Ruger despite being told its barely passable. Whats up with that? I'm pretty sure they arent chrome lined.

>>63896493
needs a c note

wait this is the ruger dude still? he was spoonfed exactly what to do already kek

>>63892507
I wish I had enough money to get a geissele upper.

https://x.com/palmettoarmory/status/1937601625167921445?t=qNUkXThSHYwPEOQ3GupuOg&s=19
Why does it look like a chink copy?

>>63896567
they'll be half off a week from now

>>63896580
PSA might as well be chinese

>>63896580
The rail covers and it's not a real RAS.

>>63896580
Most of their rifles are NFA compliant because of the pistol/sbr fuckery so they have to make some changes in order to be able to sell some of their products. Their AK105 clone looks hideous and is a perfect example of this.

His guns look like they're leaking jizz just like mine. Nice

>>63896664
How long before he has a crashout from all the gear he's on?

>>63896674
plenty of people use roids without any real downsides. 4chan just demands that anyone who 'cheats' should get their comeuppance. you probably have the gripe with people who use ozempic to lose weight.

>>63896686
No broke boys, no new friends, I'm that pressure give me my tens.

>>63896674
Never. He doesn't have enough traumatic brain injuries

>>63896560
About half the people who ask me for gun advice IRL do exactly this, ask for advice, share their retarded idea then get defensive when I tell them why it’s retarded.

>>63896686
>without any real downsides
>real
That's the keyword because in reality there is no minimum amount of a drug that creates "bad effect" and it's about balancing their respective "limits." There's just biochemistry happening. You can argue a well planned cycle is going to avoid any "real" downsides. But there's women out there in Colorado that are prescribed weed during pregnancy because their antiemetic benefits outweighted the very real potential for fetal complications.

You have to accept there's no free lunch. It's not about "comeuppance" but the reality of how these systems work. Your body isn't a closed system, and thus really any unnecessary medication—from ibuprofen to roids to ozempic—are all going to be worse than not doing them. There is no "real" benefit to roids either way. Humans don't have muscle like gorillas because it's a waste to maintain. You have the ability to tack on mass quickly for a reason.

Sorry I'm late. Ditched goobers mount for KAC

>>63896744
>and thus really any unnecessary medication—from ibuprofen to roids to ozempic—are all going to be worse than not doing them.

what a feels < reals statement

>>63896744
>There is no "real" benefit to roids either way. Humans don't have muscle like gorillas because it's a waste to maintain
Nah I need that muscle to play video games and jerk off all day.

>>63896837
I'm obviously saying there is no minimum threshold to experience detrimental effects of any medication/drug/poison/penis. You can take a single puff of weed or cocaine or ket in college and just become a schizoid, or similarly with psychedelics after a single experience.

Likewise you can go on those same drugs in "medicinal" doses for years and be fine. There are more potent drugs, more destructive chemicals on some pharmacological level, like I'm guessing it's harder to be a daily heroin user for a career before it catches up than kratom.

I think the idea is that you shouldn't default to chemical enhancement to try to reach your full potential. Mowing the grass is the only drug I need :)

>>63896866
didnt read

>>63895817
twin buster rifle my beloved
>>63895882
I just watched the final episode. Its...nonsensical. Everything about the what if scenario is more interesting than the highschool girls who are supposed to be leading the plot. Really feels like two separate ideas go crammed together into a show with not enough run time to execute on either of them. Id of rather of seen alt-Amuro fighting alt-Char under different circumstances desu. Trying to hype up Lalah sucks, that harlot has always drug everything down

anyways how are we feeling about the baby killer mount on the T2?

>>63897111
>anyways how are we feeling about the baby killer mount on the T2
I kind of want to do an all troy build tbdesu

best lpk w/ ambi safety + no trigger?

>>63896674
I dont give a shit about other mens lives but pretty sure it happened months ago when his whole team left and he got caught pursuing a breeding fetish outside his marriage

>>63897212
Try KAK because they have good buffer prices too.

has anybody ever tried to upgrade the glass on their magnifiers? I know its a weird question, just wondering if this can even be done or if anyone has tried to do it

>>63895418
poopstain anon! your 1911 isnt supposed to go in that hole!

>>63897269
Why stop there? Design and manufacture your own housing.

>>63895366
we need to make sure that the name of the child is A2 approved

>>63897269
Yeah buy a real g33 and then put the glass on your fake g33 and then throw out the real g33 or try to sell it.

>>63897279
not really worth doing housings like that desu, china makes damn good eotech clones and some generic ones too, I have a real eotech and a fake 40 dollar eotech and the real eotech only has the slightest edge on the color of the image.

I am thinking I could get the 40 dollar chink clones and upgrade the glass to make them a little nicer while still remaning under 10-20% of the price of a real one

>>63897295
yeah well im gonna invent an acog

>>63897302
im not saying I would invent anything, just swapping out parts

>>63897312
This is a GOOD idea and you have the ability to do it. The first step is removing the glass from your real g33.

>>63897319
I dont know if it would be worth it to use real eotech glass though, rather than putting eotech glass into a fake eotech, I would put an intermediate glass into a cheap housing

>>63897326
It will be good practice though. Go crack that sucker open

>>63897328
the longer he waits to practice the sooner someone is going to steal his idea

>>63897347
I'm already working on my patent for a g33 that is slightly shittier but better than the cheapest chinese ones

>>63897354
Trijicon makes that

>>63897362
I honestly really liked the one I looked down but it was just in a store so I couldn't get a good feel for it. If I was going to get another magnifier that would be up there on the list.

>>63897371
It really is the best chink magnifier for sure

will 855a1 fuck up my feed ramps if I use gen3 pmags?

>>63897388
Idk just use m193 it's the same but better

>>63892155 (OP)
I want an M16 style rifle for the ballistics and “aesthetics” of it all, yet I’m torn on if I should keep it stock or try to modernize it as it’d be my only rifle. Besides a light mount would you guys recommend an upgrade?

>>63897587
Your base "mods" are going to be a light, sling and red dot.
Read this while you're here
https://rentry.org/sa6c4m

>>63897587
>I’m torn on if I should keep it stock or try to modernize it as it’d be my only rifle.
Add some 90s-early 2000s parts like a A.R.M.S. #16A red dot mount

>>63897269
You can do this on the vortex optics
They are made to be disassembled for maintenance. Don't forget a wine bottling kit to purge it

>>63897623
my chink eotech clone is probably purged with the 12 year olds breath who made it

has anyone here used these style sights instead of BUIS? I hardly ever use my irons and feel like they just take up rail space, i am considering a solution that still checks the backup sighting system box but takes up less space

potential pros: faster than peep sights, single sight (no front and rear sight), reasonable accurate for backup sighting system

potential cons: not as precise as peepholes

>>63897643
This seems to be attempting to fix a problem that doesn't need fixing, in some attempt to use something that isn't commonly used, just for the novelty. What could you possibly have on your rifle that you don't have enough rail space?

>>63897672
light, laser, pressure pad, left thumb, dot, magnifier, buis

>>63897674
All of that can, and has been put on a rifle.