Thread 63892403

next time aim at the vent

>>63892408
>next time
They blew their load, there won't be a next time. Trump has been begging for a ceasefire for 3 days

>>63892422
Iran can realistically not do anything about further bombing, which Donald Dump will probably do. We're not Russia, we achieve our objectives.

>>63892403 (OP)
The 20 MOPs was just the initial production batch, there have been several more procurement rounds that didn't give public figures, but estimates put the total ordered above 50.

>>63892403 (OP)
>we achieve our objectives.
But you didn't, Op's post proves it.

This has convinced me that USAF is not strong, but very pathetic.

>>63892403 (OP)
>we know "at least 20" have been made
>this means 20
I bet you think the CVN-78 can only do 31 knots too because they say "in excess of 30 knots".

>>63892438
They can make about 2-3 per month in Oklahoma. That doesn't mean they have been, but you're looking at 5-7 months of production

Frodo ain't get fully BTFO'd: https://apnews.com/article/iran-nuclear-program-military-strikes-trump-f0fc085a2605e7da3e2f47ff9ac0e01d

>but, but, missile go too fast and vaporize!
defense R&D needs to stop thinking about the airplane or even ICBM form factor for DBHTs; instead, think Falcon Heavy from a carrier with hundreds of tons of refractory metals.

Well, at least something was learned. better to use it now and find out it doesn't work than wait until the last minute to find it out. Can Mossad still destroy the rest of it manually? Also can't mountains be destroyed in their entirety with TNT? assuming you have physical access of course.

Does make me wonder why nobody tells Trump not to say stupid shit like 'it was obliterated' or 'it no longer exists' or whatever. If the result is 'eh you've not really done anything' go back again?

>>63892479
>needs to stop thinking about the airplane or even ICBM form factor for DBHTs; instead, think Falcon Heavy
I wanna see shaped charge designed to blast clean through 200 meters of rock in one go

>>63892525
Trumps narcissism means everything he does has to be amazing, he will never do anything and then say "that didn't work".

>>63892455
Nah, the production line was tripled in July 2024 from ~2-3 per month up to 6-8 per month.

>>63892525
because anybody who did got removed, so its either the yes men, or the guys who know its retarded but don't want to lose their job for an action that will happen anyway

>>63892525
It makes me wonder why you retards have never realized Trump uses hyperbole to keep his preferred headline in the news.

>>63892577
>>63892525
What is this weird third-world projection going on here

he's still lying about it.
I wonder why, is it because he wants to save face or because he doesn't want Israel demanding the B-2s to go back to finish the job?

>>63892591
I don't see how they'd "finish" the job without using B61-11's.

>>63892586
Shut the fuck up faggot. He literally said it had been obliterated fuck off. I'm so fucking sick of you sycophants who can't just go
>Yeah what a dumb fucking thing for him to say
And just gargle his cock. You're the same as fucking vatniks over Putin. Just shut the fuck up and fuck off to /pol/. Jesus Christ.

>>63892584
ah yeah he's gonna love the headlines of people laughing at him for stating shit which wasn't true. yeah it's all 5d chess, trust the plan.

>>63892403 (OP)
>glowie leaks "intelligence report" oc to CNN
>every other media outlet reports on CNN's report
>WWOAAHW DRUMP BTFO

Even if we assume the report is accurate, it doesn't pertain to the effectiveness of the MOPs. The chief claim is that Iranians moved all of their uranium and that there are other facilities that weren't targeted. It is probable that the uncertainty around everything is part of letting Iran save face, which was likely one of their demands in negotiations. The odds that US and Israeli intelligence were unable to track a handful of vans that ferried away the uranium in the days leading up to the strike is very, very low.

>>63892594
You drop literally dozens of MOPs. That's it. Make a hole big enough to put conventional stuff down as well.

>>63892552
When he does, it will be followed by, "You're fired!".

>>63892525
>Does make me wonder why nobody tells Trump not to say stupid shit like 'it was obliterated' or 'it no longer exists' or whatever
if his briefing told him the plants are out of action and the strikes were successful with damage estimated to be severe is he lying?

>>63892603
It's not 5D chess, it's baiting the media in a very predictable pattern. They get to cream themselves that despite Trump 1) dunking on the Iranians, 2) ending the war 3) keeping oil down, he said something that is maybe not true. In exchange he gets to call them stupid and corrupt. I bet you think he really thought people in Springfield were eating cats and dogs.

it was obliterated, the satellites prove the mops penetrated into the facility and the blast wave propagated within it collapsing the entire thing.
We will of course receive further evidence of this once all the people celebrating expose themselves.

>>63892619
Everyone will know everything

>>63892525
Did you just come in from Mars? Because he's always bombastic. Anything he talks about is the biggest the best the most beautiful believe me its yuge. Or it's the worst, the nastiest the most terrible most awful sucker thing ever.

>>63892613
I already saw oil up to 3.29 when it had been around 2.99 or so when I fueled up right before the Israeli strikes, so I am glad/hopeful his efforts arrest the spike. Honestly while the Iranians clearly got the worst of it I think the Israelis bit off a bit more than they could chew and that's why they were so eager for an end to this. If they really had it going peachy they'd see no reason to stop the air campaign but rather keep the pressure up.

>>63892525
Trump refuses to listen

>>63892403 (OP)
America is done lmao. What a bad joke.

>>63892608
Sure I guess if you really want to go hog just do 40-50 more MOPs and 100-200 GBU-72 it would be expensive as FUCK, but it would probably work.

>>63892698
I'm not seeing an issue. A few dozen MOPs to actually fulfill the mission is economical compared to the amount spent by Iran on missile spam which was questionable benefit.

>>63892403 (OP)
>CNN
>Washington Post
>The Hill
>etc...
Oh, so they're completely destroyed then.

>>63892403 (OP)
>Iran's nuclear program set back by only a few months after 70 years of not making nukes
So are they ever going to make them or not? Even the norks and both flavors of poo have nukes, I don't understand how the Iranians still don't.

>>63892746
Unlike Russia, Iranians admit that sanctions are crippling.

>>63892751
Is Iran under heavier sanctions than North Korea?

>>63892698
>>63892726
The problem is the 10 bombs worth of nearly weapons grade enriched uranium that was taken who knows where. They need to get ride of that shit.

>all the msm shilling for obvious regime change
you aren't getting it faggots.
trump will drop mops when he feels like it and you won't get anything thing else.

Ragebaiting president TACO into posting cool mission videos for me to upload to /k/ is pretty cool of CNN. I hope he falls for it, I want to see pix.

>>63892403 (OP)
>anonymous sources say

>>63892736
Anon stop thinking like a tribal and fucking THINK for once:
Place was under a mountain. The MOP can do 60 meters, but the complex was deeper than that. It's also a complex: it's not like a Russian tank hull that you can penetrate once and it's a fireball. The complex is HUGE and defies pretty much anything short of a hydrogen bomb. That is why they chose it.
Trump is a bullshitter and an exaggerator.

>>63892765
>president TACO
Shit makes you stick out like a sore thumb

>>63892771
>Anon stop thinking like a tribal and fucking THINK for once:
Why dont you try thinking for once.
>Isreal didnt want a cease fire.
>Neocons dont want a cease fire.

Oh, wait
>Trump is a bullshitter and an exaggerator.
There it is

I was hoping I might learn something about the effectiveness of ineffectiveness of the strikes, but instead all I got was retards screaming about Trump. Why do I even bother?

>>63892760
I'm sure that a dozen vans spirited it all away to some undetectable location despite the fact that Iranians had no control over their airspace and can't even hide Khamenei.

>>63892786
You think you're going to learn anything about highly classified weapons used on a highly classified strike on a highly classified facility?

>>63892756
Irrelevant. North Korea was heavily sanctioned after it had conducted nuclear detonations.

>>63892765
no, the msm is collectively o veying because trump told bibi and his warmongering relatives to fuck off.

trump can mop iran anytime he wants if they go for nukes. that's more than enough.

>>63892760
They can't use the uranium until they centrifuge it further. They either have to rehabilitate their existing facilities or create a new centrifuge facility. That might be hard to hide.

>>63892772
It would probably amaze you to learn that he was a lolcow for /pol/ and this whole site. Shilling for him to win in 2016 was for the lulz. The flood of election tourists like (you) couldn't discern the irony and trolling for what it was and sincerely joined in, briefly being ebin lolcows yourselves before there were suddenoy so fucking many of you that the irony was lost in a sea of piss and the website was ruined forever. Like your mother eating with her legs open to keep the flies off her food, /pol/ is still here to try to contain you and the waves of foreign glowies you brought with you, so get the fuck back into your box.

>>63892806
>The flood of election tourists like (you)
Okay. Post guns.

>>63892772
not him but stay mad

>>63892815
>not him but stay mad
Mad? Why would I be mad? We won, we continue to win. We've got another 3.5 years of winning to look forward to.

>>63892794
I was thinking there might be a pretense of being on topic

>>63892788
Not as impossible as you think if they played some sort of shell game with it. Someone (probably mossad) is going to have to find out.

>>63892796
Is Iran under stricter sanctions now than North Korea was before they made their nukes?

>>63892832
>I was thinking there might be a pretense of being on topic
You fool. Anything and everything must be about Trump 24/7.

>>63892808
I've done it so many times already. It's all so fucking tiresome.

>>63892852
>nogunz

>>63892853
Gb2 containment board.

>>63892838
Yes. https://www.jstor.org/stable/resrep08132?seq=8

>>63892888
>no timestamp
Many such cases.

Cheyenne Mountain can take on a nuke, and it's from the 1960s, with standard concrete.
Fordow is about as deep, under mountainous terrain, and likely uses concrete composites that are stronger like UHPC, or FGCC.
You're unfortunately going to need tactical nuclear warhead(s) to take out the site, or troops on the ground to seize it.

>>63892948
Tactical nuclear warheads dont penetrate mountains. Cheyenne is built to withstand the BLAST.

>>63892948
you can probably do it with a purpose built shaped charge. a simple ~3 kilo device can put a 1 meter hole in dense rock about 8 centimeters wide. the only problem is the cone diameter of your shaped charge will be about 6 meters wide to get to 80 meters depth.

>>63892989
or, you can just keep on bombing it every few months with b-2s on the entrance tunnels and such.

>>63892948
>>63892953
>tactical nuke into craters made by several rounds of conventional devices
>daisy cutters/MOABs after several rounds of GBU-57
>drill in with a plasma drill and use a fuel-air mix
>build flagpole-shaped refractory metal hypersonic missiles weighing hundreds of tons
>just send in damn commandos
DBHTs are less of a hard nut to crack than the think tanks tell you, problem is tards on the case.

>>63892924
Stop wasting my time and go away.

>>63892899
The timeline in this paper essentially starts with NK's first nuclear test. What about the 30 years before that in which Iran didn't develop nuclear weapons?

>>63892403 (OP)
i dont believe any leaks ever

>>63893010
Curious that you are unable to post a single gun.

>>63892766
Unironically what is killing news in all its forms. There is no curiosity from reporters, which makes them easily led by any schmuck with his own agenda, or by the government whenever it feels like yanking people's chain in a particular direction. Never mind the potential for the reporters themselves to just be lying because muh confidential source means I don't gotta say where I got it from or who said it.

you stupid cunts just looooooove being tools for Pissrael don't ya?

>63893076
this is bait

>>63893079
Its not. In all probability the """"leak""" is a plant by either Israel or some seething interventionist. Iran getting the bomb is the only justification for intervention that has actual traction with the population. Trump ensuring they dont get a bomb any time soon ends that argument. Hence, we must raise it from the dead.

>>63893075
Reminder

>>63892403 (OP)
>said leaked assessment is made with "low confidence"
>that fact not yet been mentioned after a hundred turdies have posted

Why don't we have a range ban on India yet

>>63893104
That means any claim that facility was destroyed would also be low confidence, i.e. there isn't enough evidence to support a definitive conclusion.

>>63893122
Which means that this report is actually fucking useless and shouldn't even be news.

Now if you'll excuse me...