>thermal poncho makes you invisible to dron-ACK
how many militaries fell for that meme?

Seems like it would have worked fine if they hadn't waited until they'd already been spotted to put them on.

>>63893539 (OP)
>drop bomb on russian soldier
>secondaries
what the fuck
also staying still and close together when you hear a drone is incredibly retarded, even if you think you're invisible

>>63893542
>Seems like it would have worked fine

>mobik batch doesn't want to go into the grinder, crying, begging, blah blah
>tired of beating and raping all day yesterday to force the previous batch of mobiks into the grinder
>fine... here you go, mobiks, a maaaaaagical invisibility cloak, just like in Tatyana Grotter, it will keep you safe from the drones
>mobiks happy and run off to get grinded

>>63893545
Just some cold patches of ground. Remember, this is a white hot color scheme.

>>63893544
>what the fuck
The famous Pidor Piñata

>>63893551
if you don't look exactly like field then you're not invisible and will be spotted instantly. There's no such thing as "cold patch on the ground"

>>63893556
That's the joke he was making

>>63893544
They reached the point of alcoholism where their blood becomes flamable.

>>63893544
They shouldn't have been walking within mortar kill range of each other regardless, sweety.

>>63893545
Yes, absolutely. There are black patches of ground all through the clip they could have blended in with, like at 6 seconds they could easily have been lost in the noise of the dark spots to their left. But they invited extra scrutiny by being obvious glowing white figures before they froze, so it all amounted to nothing. Hence the crucial second part of the sentence you chose to ignore, "if they hadn't waited until they'd already been spotted to put them on.".

>>63893643
>There are black patches of ground all through the clip
there's not a single "patches of ground" with matching coldness. There's fucking cold drone on the ground visible from first second because earth is not magically uniformly cold

The whole point of these different thermal ponchos and shit you put on vehicles is that it mitigates your signature and if you are driving around in a forest or a heavily urbanized area you are less likely to get spotted. If you just go full retard and start walking across massive open fields you are liable to end up on a badly edited video with phonk of with your limbs flying around.

>>63893539 (OP)
The more we see people playing with thermal cameras, the more obvious it becomes that thermal/night vision isn't the god of seeing. But this is nuts, why did they stop? Why were they in an open field? A sniper would have killed them all just like the drone because they froze instead of spreading out/running. The key with thermal seems to be minimizing the signature with certain clothes/gear and using cover to obscure that minimized signature to the point it disappears into the background. Also distance plays a huge role as optical quality degrades dramatically with distance, and things like mirage destroy thermal and visible light.

>>63893539 (OP)
Think of it like a ghillie suit, if you lay still in bushes you look like a bush, if you walk across an open field you look like a guy walking across a field.
Thermal camo helps but it's not magic and if you are seen walking around it won't help.

>>63893539 (OP)
they're meant to be used in combination with cover, these guys are just stupid and dont know how thermal vision works
the moment they were dead was when they were caught moving though, heard some drone operayor say that in ukraine very little of his kills actually came from bombing still targets (that werent out in the open)
if i were in these guys shoes where i'm walking and hear a drone i'd tell the other two to scatter and sprint for their lives for some cover

>>63893669
ghillie suit blends with surrounding. Thermal poncho provides uniform thermal profile that stands out on any summer day/night because vegetation, sand, ground, trees have different thermal profile and there's no giant uniform blobs in nature

>>63893967
They were in the worst possible situation
If they had the cloaks on before being spotted the drone may not have come for a closer look
If they had any overhead cover, even dead branches it would have broken up their cold spot outline
If they were spread out more the cold spots could have been overlooked as terrain anomalies
Thermal cloaks are like camo, only has a chance to work when used correctly

>>63893967
You don't understand how thermal blankets work. If they were at ambient temperature they would have blended in. But those guys were keeping their blankets in cold pockets.

>>63894081
>ambient temperature
earth cools and warms at different temperature from air, keeping it at ambient temperature won't make you invisible to it. Furthermore thermal drones often switch contrast up and down to spot anything that has few degrees difference will appear as sore spot

>>63894071
>If they were spread out more the cold spots could have been overlooked as terrain anomalies
what makes you think so? This assumption is basically "drone operators are retards and won't check the very obvious anomaly"

>>63894103
>keeping it at ambient temperature won't make you invisible to it
What do you mean by "it"?

>>63894145
it being ground, ambient temperature thermal poncho will not have same temperature as ground

>>63893562
Jokes aside, what causes this? I've seen several russian soldiers suddenly turn into fireworks after eating a grenade. Is it UBGL ammo cooking off?

>>63894116
It helps when combined with the other factors, if there were spotted before putting on the cloaks it would have been useless but at distance the dark spots wouldn't have been so obvious but you want to be separate to prevent creating a pattern that might get attention

>>63894216
It doesn't really happen. Kicked up clouds and pink mist can simply look hot on thermals. If anything on a person is burning, it's going to be their clothes, or a broken bottle of vodka.

>>63893544
>drop bomb on russian soldier
>secondaries
>what the fuck
They all might have been wearing pic related.

>>63894307
what is this, anti-tank mine plate armor vest?

>>63893544
Those don't look like HE secondaries at all. It looks like flammable liquid. Maybe gas for a generator at a forward outpost?

>>63894305
hand grenades

>>63893544
>also staying still
If you run, you will only die tired.

>>63894322
russian uniform made to carry mines

>>63894398
>russian uniform made to carry mines
How can the west compete against such brilliance?

>>63894397
In this scenario, I'd argue running away in different directions would have increased their chances of survival compared to making a juicy target by staying huddled together motionless.

>>63893539 (OP)
>>thermal poncho
Do you really think the Russians are equipping with thermal ponchos or just ponchos? Also, how do we know they arent Ukrainians?

>>63894421
I agree. But the drone was armed with at least 1 reload and that's 2 of 3. I'm saying, the drone batteries can outlast a running man or at least kamakazi him.

>>63894398
can they unzip the mine from the unniform or do they just lay down in front of the tank?

>>63893539 (OP)
>>63893542
>>63893544
Samefag

>>63894423
russians are actually equipping alot of thermal ponchos and thermal blankets to their troops.

>>63894423
The text in the video is in Ukrainian so that would point towards the retards being ziggers.

>>63894451
chest-bump the tank

>>63893539 (OP)
>that fallen drone south east of them
wew, lad

Oh dear, the proooooofster is back...

>>63893545
That's far less visible than giant walking white spots. Do you think camouflage is supposed to be an invisibility cloak?

>>63894423
>is a moron
how do we know you are not paid but just stupid?

>>63894470
Thx, I was sure someone had insight here. I can not read Russian or Ukrainian, but understand they are distinct, but similar.

>>63894451
Zippers are expensive.

>>63894491
>you are not paid but just stupid
Why not both, genius?

>>63894500
The "aлe" is a quick & easy give away, means "but", in russian it's "нo"

Ukrainian is pretty distinct from russian, they might seem similar, but aren't really mutually intelligible, though Ukrainians fare better with understand russian than the other way around.

>>63894453
Meds
>>63894470
>>63894500
The trident and .ua link are bigger giveaways kek

>>63893539 (OP)
Red Mist under thermal vision is just so fucking brutal.
You can see the arterial pressure.

>>63894307
>not making the velcro patch round so it looks like a nipple
im disappoint

>>63894116
Anon... from how far do you think this "anomaly" can be seen in comparison with being naked?

>>63894517
desu, I'm not an expert, but a Russian once told me that the difference between ukrainian and russian is the same as about the difference between portuguese and spanish

>>63893554
>Pidor Piñata

>>63894764
>desu
>tb h
>t bh
>t b h
what?

>>63894398
>cuban terrorist from RA2

>>63894772
Welcome to 4chan, tourist

>>63894487
Giant white spot. Giant dark spot. It makes no difference. You need thermal camoflage that breaks up your image. Perhaps with patches of varying emissivity. And then you've got to stop moving when the drone approaches. Moving camo patterns are almost as easy to spot.

>>63894772
Fuckin' newfag

>>63894772
desudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesu

>>63893544
i think it's shitty lithium batteries. if these guys were carrying them for some phones or other pieces of tech, they can pop off and ignite like that, also explains the sort of unrolling thing we see going off to the left. here's an example from a previous drone hit.

>>63894216
Some of it might be batteries exploding/burning up. Might not be the case here though.

>>63894398
Can it work as reactive armor?

>>63893550
>fine... here you go, mobiks, a maaaaaagical invisibility cloak, just like in Tatyana Grotter

>>63893667
Russian soldiers are poorly trained, that's the answer to everything

>>63894772
It's funny how Twitter nigspeak is still filtered but every other dedicated shitposting buzzword from the past decade is fine.

>>63894517
>aлe
It means distorted "aллo". Phone greetings that comes from "hello", probably.
"Aлe" in this distorted form has sarcastic tone. Examples of use: someone is drunk and doesn't pay attention to your words, so you scream "Aлe!" into his ear.
Can be used as catch phrase before vibe check.

>>63894845
>Tatyana Grotter
real bootleg shit, it exists

>>63893544
>staying still
is a part of r training comrad

>>63894905
This art is so shit. It looks like a Sektor Gaza album cover

>>63894898
>It means distorted "aллo"
Only because russians are retarded and have ё (yo) letter, which they don't use because it's somehow too much work to place the umlaut dots above the character. Which fucks up it into the e (ye) letter instead. But you should know and assume that's actually it's ё instead. Fucking faggots can't even into their own zubhuman language.

>>63894905
Has it been banned yet? One look is enough to see that she's a banderite ukronazi cocksleeve.

>>63894925
There's like a dozen or more books in the series

>>63894081
>in cold pockets.
Do you think Russian body temperate is sub-zero or something you fucking idiot

>>63894307
>>63894398
Why did Atacs become so widespread in the Russian Armed Forces? I thought it was a westoid camo.

>>63893550
/k/ has been COOKING this week
first the flying squirrel story, now this shit
you guys are alright

>>63894802
It's a giant dark spot on a background full of dark spots.

>>63894921
>Only because russians are retarded and have ё (yo) letter, which they don't use because it's somehow too much work to place the umlaut dots above the character
It's used all the time retard.

>>63894915
It looks fucking great. 90's Amiga vibes.

>>63894965
It would be a lot harder for a human to pick out the dark spots. Bear in mind that footage is most likely off the drone and the operator was probably looking at using an analog radio feed which is grainy, unreliable and probably no better than SD television would be

>>63893539 (OP)
Why did the mobik have secondarys? Was he a t90 incarnate?

>>63894976
My faggot in Christ the literal example given above of how russian use "aлe" is in fact a great example how they fuckin' don't use the ё in real life. The work should fuckin' be spelled "aлё" (alyo), not "aлe" (alye). But people are fucking lazy and retarded and don't spell it correctly, relying on "hurr-durr it's obvious I've meant that it should be ё instead of e there" and shit.

>>63895001
It took literally one google search to show that they use aлё, not aлe.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%BB%D0%BE

>>63893967

Ghillie suits and 3D camo from foliage do not protect from thermal detection. Arguably the most effective application is to combine both. Ideally in forested terrain with tree cover and elevation.

These are just suicideniks thrown into an open field to die by corrupt war profiteering oligarchs. It is a turkey shoot, a meat grinder for political forces who ultimately collude. It is a genocide.

>>63895007
My brown friend, you're linking wikipedia, which is trying to be specific and correct, they even specify stress accents in words, which almost nobody does in russian, outside school books for kids.

>>63895012
>which is trying to be specific and correct
As opposed to you just saying "they just do trust me bro"

>>63895024
As opposed how things work in real life with regular people. They fuckin' have people campaigning to "save the ё", because people ignore it so often and just write e.

>>63893643
how the fuck is the person on the ground supposed to know what spots are "cold" or "hot" to a thermal drone 100 feet in the air?

>>63895068
Astral projection

>>63894898
Don't know what you're on about, but it very clearly means "but..." in this case. The text before it reads "they think they cannot be seen."

>>63894216
From the cook-offs I've seen, I think most of it is just ammo, as you get a check of flame and a lot of smoke normally located around the arse.
I've seen at least seven separate spontaneous shitter scorchings and a lot of the partially charred corpses you see scattered around have their lower halves burned, so it must be something fairly common that's causing it.

Are they even thermal ponchos? It looks to me like they just called the Mexican embassy and said
>hola señor, you have poncho, da?

>>63894329
>killing the vodka carrier
WAR CRIME

>>63895146
>you get a check of flame and a lot of smoke normally located around the arse
Ah, so the usual methane fire, nothing strange, carry on. Maybe eat better in the next life.

>>63895240
Oh they're thermal blankies for sure, they differ from ground temp before their guts are blown off. Would these moving black spots not get spotted by a human drone operator? Who knows, to AI they'd look the same as unblanketed ones.

>>63893539 (OP)
why am I not surprised they're still using these?

>>63895038
People will still pronounce it, they just don’t write it because mobile keyboards don’t have it as a separate letter for some reason

>>63895687
Lmao, there is something so comedic about them running around with those capes through the woods, with the drone just catching glimpses of them shuffling about.

>>63895687

>>63894307
>full petard
heh

>their vision is based on heat, don't move and put on your ponchos

>>63894500
>>63894517
>>63894470
> text in the video is in Ukrainian
Why do you need to argue about text when the logo in the corner is stylized "trident"(coat of arms of ukraine)?
And if you still want to go the text way, there are "i" letters in it - ukrainian has it, russian doesnt.

>>63894905
I... fucking read this book when I was 14

>>63895687
Why are Russians having slumber parties in the forest?

>>63893544
ERA hard at work working as intended.
Explosives Reactive Alcoholics

>>63894934
They were probably just below ground in a dug-out.

>>63896004
Fun fact Russian had the i before the revolution. The official state name of the Russian Empire used the i in "Russian" part.

>>63895424
> To ai they'd look the same as ones without blankets
Not only are you incredibly fucking wrong because you don't know anything about AI inputs, you're also incredibly fucking wrong because you don't know anything about AI training. You can't say
> muh ai
and magically be not a dumbass

>>63894307
>>63894398
Tortilla warmer

>>63893544
Question, how close do one of these drones have to be before you hear it in a normal environment?
I assume if it's high up, you wouldn't know until it was right on top of you hence the sitution in OP.

>>63895810
We need more shitty boomer tier- grunt memes lol.

>>63896591
You can train AI to spot anything out of ordinary

>>63894329
That's blood, anon

>>63894307
>>63894398
I legitimately thought this was explosive reactive body armor for a moment.

>>63893539 (OP)
Could've fooled AI at least.

>>63895687
>Russians now come with their own bodybags
Neat

>>63898271
Well, sort of.

>>63894764
Welcome to 4chan desu!

>>63895687
>>63895771
The first ~ten seconds of that webm has some serious Monty Python energy.

>>63896986
>shitty boomer tier- grunt memes
fuck you, GWOT is my generation.

>>63898471
Fuck you right back buddy! I love that humor it was the best, now we got things called memes. Now that we both agree you wanna fuck?

>>63893539 (OP)
Flammable poncho aparently.

>>63893542
Very diffucult to spot a drone before it sees you. Meaning you either need to move thermally concealed (slowly) or good fucking luck.

>>63898202
Yes, and ai can start blowing up napping cows and bushes
There have to be tolerances of what's considered out of the ordinary and those tolerances are where your wiggle room is when it comes to camo

>>63894915
You say that like it’s a bad thing >>63894944
Specvoenprom, previously a distributor for Digital Concealment Systems, has acquired the exclusive rights to the ATACS camo family.

>>63900900
>Feb 2024
Man this zigger is so dead

>>63898553
Don't drones have a heat signature? Everyone tells me HMTs are retarded but I think everyone else is retarded

>>63893545
Yes, once the eye of sauron is on you, you can't escape it but as long as you dont look too conspicuous it'll pass over you

>>63903178
Why do people tell you they're retarded?

>>63893544
>>drop bomb on russian soldier
>>secondaries

Fragments penetrate a hand grenade and ignites a fire like conflagration in the HE inside. I dont know what the russians use for filling, but it is very easy to ignite.

>>63895687
Holy fucking kek, the way they just scurry around with those trashbags is for some reason really funny to me.

>>63895240
That's what I said.>>63894423
>equipping with thermal ponchos or just ponchos?

>>63903621
>dont know what the russians use for filling,
Russian hand grenades RGO, RGN and 40 mm UBGL ammo use A-IX-1 (RDX).
Older hand grenades F-1 and RGD-5 use TNT.

>>63894307
They weren't informed that it's meant for urban warfare.

>>63895687
russian assaults in 2025 be like

>>63894502
>Zippers are expensive.
Ziggers are expendable.

>>63894775
>Take me back to Havana!

In a less clownworld timeline we might have had Cuban forces marching with Russia through Europe but I think they kind of shit the bed since the USSR collapse and ran out of money for gommie shenanigans.There was some Cuban civilians that got recruited about 3 years ago for the 2 day SMO, I'd imagine they're very dead by now.
I guess norks are sort of a kind of desperate and scraping the bottom of the barrel kind of 'allies' such as they are.

>>63894329
>It looks like flammable liquid.
No, it looks the ending of webmrel
I think it's either ammo cooking off or lithium batteries like another anon suggested

>>63909870
That were batteries of the drone itself.

>>63894829
*BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP*

>>63896004
>And if you still want to go the text way, there are "i" letters in it - ukrainian has it, russian doesnt.
I don't speak Ukrainian muchless the fuck spell it. Jesus.

>>63910335
If you're ignorant of the topic, don't talk back to people educating you on it.

>>63895009
>political forces who ultimately collude

Sure the ukies are colluding with the Russians in the great mobik kubing operation but you can hardly blame them

>>63910335

>>63895746
>they just don’t write it because mobile keyboards don’t have it as a separate letter for some reason
They've stopped writing it en mass even before smartphones became a thing. They've stopped doing this even before PC got popular in russia. This crap literally was a thing in say 80s and 90s when they had to write cursive by hand. And the rules/schools low-key permitted it, specifying that writing "ye" instead of "yo" is okay and "not a mistake" in cases where it's obvious that "yo" was implied and such other crap. However this "obvious" part is retarded as we'll demonstrate further.

>People will still pronounce it
Kinda. You don't understand that when they stop writing it in year and years it starts affecting pronunciation as well.

The best example I personally like is how a ton of foreign names, such as Röntgen and Göring, which historically were both spoken and written with "yo" in russian, as in "Ryontgen" and "Gyoring", changed their pronunciation with time. Since nobody bothered to write "yo" in its full form, instead relying on the implicit understanding that it's actually "yo" there despite everyone writing it as "ye", over time more and more people just read it as it was written and that became the norm. Thus now those names are spoken as "Ryentgen" and "Gyering".

And foreign names are not the only example, it's just that they get fucked the faster because the wording is less used on a day to day basis. But even common russian words get fucked, e.g. жёлчный (zhyolchniy), as in the adjective of gall (as in gall bladder) is very often spoken as жeлчный (zhyelchiy) because yes people were writing the world without a full ё and now like 50% of the russian population (if not more) think the incorrect form is correct. Same with пёcтpый (pyostriy), as in "motley", which more you regular ivan will easily pronounce as "pyestriy" instead, for the same reasons.

It happens with names of people, things, places and so on.

>>63893539 (OP)
retards should've used tempered glass

>>63893544
>>drop bomb on russian soldier
>>secondaries
>what the fuck
Lithium batteries probably

>>63894307
>>63894398
Mine without detonator is completely inert and safe. That mine bag is more about sad state of r*ssian logistics than suicide.

>>63911904
Make me, you foreign euro trash faggot.
>>63912042
FUCKNYEAH!!

That thumbnail makes it look like a satellite is imaging the moon

>>63912350
>completely
No, a shaped charge is enough to cause a complete detonation

>>63894825

>>63913409
>>63894825
>>63894772