Should I get a 10/22 and a couple thousand rounds of 22lr for zombie survival or do I need a bigger caliber?

>>63894534 (OP)
>Zombie survival

>>63894534 (OP)
You do realize "zombie survival" has nothing to do with zombies, right?

>>63894534 (OP)
Why not both?
>t. literally tied of asking this

>>63894534 (OP)
Get a bigger caliber. For the range if nothing else.

>>63894553
Newfag

>>63894564
Everyone knows zombies are real. Just not the undead kind.

>>63894534 (OP)
Sure. If you don't already have a 22 get a 10/22.

Not necessarily for zombie survival. Get it because it is a good introduction to firearms ownership and marksmanship in general.

It is cheap to buy, cheap to shoot, pretty easy to shoot well due to insignificant recoil and yet still somewhat capable as a home defense weapon in a pinch given a BX-25 magazine or two.
From there graduate to a basic AR-15, a good pistol that you can comfortably conceal and a shotgun that you can shoot trap/skeet with.

>>63894534 (OP)
I love my 10/22, the aftermarket is endless.

>>63894534 (OP)
You need to worry about painting your equipment lime green rather than caliber choice.

>>63894534 (OP)
if you're really that cheap then why don't you get a 9mm PCC? everyone and their mother has a 9mm pistol, so ammo is arguably more plentiful than .22lr, recoil is still very mild, you can pair it up with your 9mm sidearm to use only one type of ammo to be more efficient, plus being a centerfire means it's more reliable and also much easier to reload, if you really want to max out efficiency in a shtf scenario.

>>63894534 (OP)
I missed the times where you can buy a bucket it .22LR at walmart for 50 bucks + tax

>>63894534 (OP)
This was my plan when I was 13. My parents got me a 10/22, several BX-25s, a green united cutlery tomahawk, and a copy of the zombie survival guide. Best Christmas ever.

>>63895290

I don't. Remington golden bullet and thunderbolt are jam-o-matics. It's bad enough to have your trip to the range ruined by a box of ammo that can't run without jamming and failing to fire every other round, it's worse to realize you wasted $50 on a bucket you'll never use.

Fortunately my first experience with shit tier .22 LR ammo was buying small quantities.

Pretty much anytime you hear people complaining about rimfire it's because they're shooting Remington shit that doesn't run right.

>>63895301
Based

>>63894564
Zombie survival wasn't a dog whistle. Get out astroturfer

>>63894534 (OP)
Yes. Definitely. .22 is peak zombie killers

>>63894588
nah, max brooks is a faggot.

>>63894553
Downvoted for referencing reddit

>>63895290
Tell me about it.
>be me
>child in early 2000s
>dad takes me to the range over the weekend
>swing by our local Walmart
>grab a box of .38 special for my dads revolver and 500 round box of .22
>doesn’t even break a $20
God I miss the good ol days

>>63895644
Thunderbolts are great. They run fine in all my 22's. Have you tried not being such a faggot?

>>63894867
My dad used to have a 10/22. How do get the big mags to work, I remember them being real shit

>>63896797
Exactly. It's only a dog whistle if you were too retarded to know it meant normies chimping out, sort of like they did during COVID.

>>63896840
You can do that right now. 38spp is $8 a box and a 500rd box of 22lr is $12.

>>63894534 (OP)
A reliable .22 and a bunch of ammo for it is never a bad idea but I doubt you'll want it as your only option. What if the "zombies" are on drugs or are using shitty homemade armor. What if they conceal themselves behind a car? Get an actual rifle too and slowly start stocking up on ammo for it.

>>63895644
agreed Remington golden bullshit was guaranteed at least 1 jam every 500 usually 3-5

You've been reading the Zombie Survival guide by Mel Brook's son, a liberal urban jew, trying to give you survival advice.
This is a mistake.
A 10/22 is a good buy, but you want a decent sized caliber, at least an .223

>>63896854
I've never had any issues with the 20 or 30 rnd mags, but past that you're asking for trouble.

>>63897062
The urban Jew was not wrong at all because his book is about zombies. If you're talking about niggers, beaners, white trash, and seething incel gooks, rabbi chomo ritual dicksuckers... then you don't just need a bunch of differrnt types of guns. But a trained squad of men to help you survive

>>63897062
IT
BOUNCES
AROUND

>>63897089
Most deadly caliber

>>63896854
NTA but Ruger brand mags and if you start to have feed issues clean the fuck out of your mag. Don't scratch the plastic guts. Old BX mags were different inside and the spring coil "spool" had slop that people used to shim with a cutoff of a 22 casing. The new ones are a different revision. I only use BX-15s. The 25s work too.

>>63894534 (OP)
No.
You don't need any excuse to buy a 10/22 you should just get one

>>63894534 (OP)
The Zombie Survival Guide says 10/22 is fine. But getting a PDW in 9mm might be better.

>>63900284
This. Or two. Or three. Because why not have multiple setups for different uses? The base rifles cost what a single AR lower or upper cost and they shoot cheap ammo.

>>63896830
OP will become an adult eventually and realize this is the truth. I still have that book. It was a gas when I was 15

>>63896960
I haven’t seen a box of .38 or .357 go for under $50 a box in years

Can anyone recommend some good sights for the 10/22? I have the m1 sights on mine and they are junk.
The rear peep slides around and it cannot be tightened. Also the peep doesnt work as intended because it is skewed. I cannot see through it and it blurs the front sight completely. I was considering a skinner but they are really pricy and I dont want to waste the money if I end up disliking them. Id have to buy a front sight too. I would have been fine with the factory sights but the handguard covers the dovetail so it has to be a receiver sight.
>>63896960
>>63902946
I think it varies where you live
Im in the midwest and it costs 20 dollars for 325 rounds of 22lr and 23-35 for 38/357 target loads
Ive seen 38 as cheap as 15 and as expensive as 45 though. Certain stores are notorious for expensive ammo though (9mm for 36.99 plus tip)

>>63903172
Tech Sights

>>63894534 (OP)
Get a BXR

>>63903172
The new anniversary and IIRC factory B-TM models come with a rail that has a peep at the back. Not sure if you really want a rail on your M1 lookalike though but IIRC it's available either on ShopRuger or SamsonMFG. I really wish I bought that just for the looks instead of the Weaver 10/22 pic rail but frankly it'd just be for looks as I use my scope (and it'd probably make my scope need the next ring height anyways).

>>63896840
>>63896960
Used to get 500 rounds of 22LR for $5.

Where were all of (you) at?

>>63900306
>Brooks Slop

Author said the report of gunfire drew zombies. Since we're not dealing with zombies per se, the sound of gun fire and sight of the aftermath should ward off Interlopers.

>>63896797
its funny because the origin of the term zombie isnt even a dogwhistle.
Its literally niggers.

>>63906122
>its funny because the origin of the term zombie isnt even a dogwhistle.
>Its literally niggers.
Correct. Zombie was originally a Haitian myth/folklore, darkies making up stories about how dangerous other darkies are.

>>63906520
The origin of it is actually darker than that. It goes back to the Haitian genocide of French whites. One of the participants in the genocide had the name Zombie.

>>63894534 (OP)
Imo, everyone should have a 22lr caliber gun because they're cheap fun

>>63903421
Anyone have any idea what heat shield that is?

>>63896960
>38spp is $8 a box
Fucking where. I've never seen 38 special under 60cpr even online. If you ignore shipping and buy the worst remanufactured steel case maybe

>>63894534 (OP)
What you really want is an mp5SD for your secondary and a halberd with a few rare earth magnets taped to the handle in case you need to stick it on the roof of a car and ride around.

>>63894534 (OP)
>zombie survival

>>63894534 (OP)
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>>63896840
>muh good times
Shut the fuck up retard boomer. There were never any "good times" you were just too dumb to see it before.

>>63895644
>>63897039
who cares if it's just for plinking?

>>63894564
>>63894780
Ghouls is actually the preferred term in Joburg

>>63894534 (OP)
>10/22 and a couple thousand rounds of 22lr
>or

Why "or"? a 10/22 and a couple thousand rounds is like sub-500$

grand power TR22 >>>rugershit.

>>63896854
>How do get the big mags to work
never had mag related issue with bx-25

>>63894553
gem

>>63894588
filtered

>>63906581
>Haitian genocide of French whites
aw poor slave owners

>>63895644
I bought a 10/22 last week and it went through a little over 200 rounds of thunderbolt without a cleaning my first time taking it to the range, albiet that was after I already fired a whole 100 rounds of CCI standard velocity

>>63913546
Not OP but yeah I paid like $21/500rds (not sure if including shipping, rounding up here a bit) back in 2024. Also on gun.deals a model 1103 (search "1103") is like $204. I'd also look on the suggested deals or look at the anniversary/special 10/22s as they're often a pretty good deal, if sometimes in a strange stock. Also with the 4th of July coming I'm sure there will be pretty good sales on a model or two of 10/22, probably posted on gun.deals.

>>63896960
In what fucking country do you live where .38 is $8.00 a box?

>>63894534 (OP)
This is now an old-school zombie apocalypse thread.

>>63894534 (OP)
>for zombie survival
I'd suggest getting just one round of at least 9 mm, so that you make sure when put it to your own skull, it gets the job done.

>>63916059
>stop having fun
Who put you on the planet?, mister thumb-up-his-crack?

>>63894534 (OP)
Zombies aren't real, just get a 10/22 because it's fun, then get a bigger gun because it's more useful (but also fun).

>>63896854
Pick better mags.

>>63902726
Same, its in the closet in my old bedroom. It was pretty fun as a kid/teen, but the older I got the more retarded it became.

>>63917584
I know they're only on the used market but no RamLine 1130s or Eaton Supply 25/22s on that chart? Before Butler Creek, Eaton made the original mags that would become clear "Hot Lips" in black. Also not sure where I'd place either considering I mostly own both out of novelty; the Eaton, Butler Creek, and especially the RamLine 1130s are absolutely unserviceable and can't be taken apart for cleaning. Shame because I'd love a modern 1130; 30rd doublestack the size of a BX-15? If it feeds reliably, holy shit. Also the MWG teardrop was previously the Mitchell and IIRC there was a model of drum mag that like 3+ companies have manufactured under different names since the 80s.
t. Spent far too much time researching retro 10/22 tacticool shit

speaking of .22s why wont bass pro let me order this?

>>63916059
nogunz detected

>>63894534 (OP)
10/22 is a great little rifle. Get a couple 25rd mags with some federal punch and you got yourself some "zombie defense."

>>63894588
Zombie survivalism is gay and retarded, and so are you

>>63919394
You put half a dozen .22s from a rifle in someone center mass, and they'll probably go down right away, but I wouldn't feel comfortable trusting rimfire ignition or feeding for that.

>>63919009
Based Bass Pro protecting anon from buying Turkshit from the fake Springfield Armory that has nothing to do with the real historical Springfield Armory.
https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/springfield-2020-22lr.7195586/
>lots of people apparently get mediocre accuracy
>guy has visible damage to edge of chamber on the rear face of the barrel because of a couple dryfires
Yep, Turkshit. They even put an American flag on the bottom of the trigger guard to very obviously try and fool people shopping at a store with vertical racks which is scummy IMO. Note the distinct lack of pictures on Springfield's site showing the left side of the gun close-up despite the logo being right there. The pics that do show it are far away or conveniently cut pic related off. Every time Springfield or Winchester release a new gun they do the same thing.

>>63894534 (OP)
You need at least a .44 rimfire or you will be kilt in da streetz. I'd suggest just any sbr AR is good enough toughhoweverenough

>>63919545
>but I wouldn't feel comfortable trusting rimfire ignition or feeding for that.
NTA but while not ideal, my 10/22 with BX-15s is pretty reliable and often the rare stoppages are easily fixable. Mostly grab second mag, slap paddle and mag out of gun with second mag, insert yank bolt. I've done it while hunting once before. Took a shot, went to take a second just in case because I just had a weird feeling, click no bang IIRC, and while jogging up to the animal I reloaded as above. Yes, very tacticool 3l1t3 0p3r4t0r of me but I did it with no issues on instinct. Up close under 15 feet in self defense, maybe it would've gone different. But I've relied on nothing more than this rifle for self defense while hunting for a couple years now and I'm pretty trusting of it. Throw in some Volquartsen parts like an extractor, firing pin, and recoil spring and it'd be even more reliable; you just have to know when to clean it and what needs attention between full/deep cleanings. Use CCI or other high quality 22 for even better reliability, theoretically. I'd be most concerned about bullet performance and whether hollowpoints will really expand or not (highly variable) but when you have 15 or 25rds plus one at ~1200fps it's probably of lower concern than the (often) one shot you have when hunting.

Frankly if I had to choose and the 10/22 mag rifles weren't extractor hungry (those fuckers like to fling extractors into the void because it uses an extractor and spring meant for 22LR) and prone to (IIRC) some other issues that lead Ruger to discontinue them, I'd go with one of those shooting one of the CCI hunting rounds with HP bullets grooved so they mushroom and fragment. Those do nasty things in gel and from what I've been able to gatther, even real world results on game are very very similar.

Not OP, but what's are some good small game rifles? I don't like the idea of buying a 10/22 and then immediately replacing half the parts on it to make it nice. I'd rather just buy a quality gun up front and put a scope and a sling on it. Are CZ's rimfires worth the price?

>>63919866
CZ's rimfires are alright.
For a 10/22, you don't strictly need to upgrade anything, but if you wanted one except higher quality, then I believe Volquartsen makes and sells whole guns of their own.

>>63916044
For a melee weapon: machete, khukhuri, e-tool or tomahawk?

>>63919903
For me, probably a machete. They're simple, relatively cheap, and nearly indestructible (assuming it's a quality brand).

>>63919866
CZs are nice. I'm looking at the green stocked Howa to fill my 22WMR needs, though they come in 22LR as well. 10/22s function fine out of the box unless you get a rare lemon, but that's true of most companies and there's always the warranty to fall back on. I have a fancy 10/22 and a factory one, though the fancy one I only put a VQ hammer and extractor in just to get a nicer trigger and for some peace of mind, not unlike enthusiasts of other guns buying Wolff and other aftermarket springs/extractors/trigger parts. The VQ extractor was like $3 above the price of a Ruger one. I'd buy a 10/22 that comes with the fancy iron sight/rail combo or buy a cheap model 10/22 and a Weaver T430. Maybe buy a model with sling swivels or get a stock with QD sling cups and grab a Magpul QD stock if that's your thing (highly recommend it). Should come out to a reasonable price. But anyways, I hunted with my 10/22 for like 2 years without a sling as well. Also yeah, like >>63919876 said, 3rd party makers like Volquartsen ($$$), Kidd (slightly lower $$$), and Tandemkross (~$-$$) exist, and there's Ruger (~$) being the lowest price. If you want to build one from the ground up, Volquartsen has stripped Ruger receivers for a whole $65 or so.

>>63919866
>>63920079
>and grab a Magpul QD stock
*sling, oops

>>63894534 (OP)
they are fine and have a huge aftermarket but any repeating .22lr would do basically the same thing. but again they are cheap, they work and they have the best after market.
for self defense I'd get a centerfire though

>>63919762
>They even put an American flag on the bottom of the trigger guard to very obviously try and fool people
I find this to be funny

>>63922853
It's such a cheap-ass $200-300 Turkish import gun thing to do it's the first thing to come to mind when I see it. I can't think of any actual American made gun that has it standard. The Turkshit guns with US flags cheaply laser engraved on them definitely outnumbers any US made guns with laser engraved (or milled) flags on a standard model by like 10:1 easily.

>>63919762
>>63922853
1 inch at 50 yards is very accurate for a $300 gun. I doubt most people can shoot .22 better than that regardless of ammo.

>>63894534 (OP)
it would be more fun to modmaxx one and murder 2 liter bottles in clear self defense shooting

>>63924074
Where did anyone say 1" @ 50? The snipershide pics with Eley are about 1.4" @ 50 at best which IIRC is maybe a little better than I get with a mostly bone stock 10/22 (nice scope, slightly lighter trigger, but stock barrel and bolt). For a more expensive bolt action I'd hope that actual accuracy nerds could shoot Eley out of it considerably better than an ameteur squirrel hunter (me) can shoot bulk Aguila out of my 10/22. 1.4" at 50 probably means a 2.8-3 MOA gun. My 10/22, I wouldn't be surprised if it was in a similar range. I'd have to dig out some targets to be sure but that's kinda rough. Pic is from SnipersHide

>>63924074
>1 inch at 50 yards is very accurate for a $300 gun
yeah, this thread convinced me I need one especially if I can get it for 300
wont pay more than that
>>63924168
the website

>>63924074
Ok I do stand corrected with this:
>The CCI stomped the “accuracy guarantee” with 9 rounds in a sub 1/2” edge to edge cluster, then a yanked the last one spoiling a nice “wallet” group
As it appears the OP hadn't done any work to the gun at that point. Things like them ringing the barrel during the threading process (pic) do concern me though as I don't think I've ever seen that in another gun, though I can't say I've looked for it. Accuracy seems to also be a bit of a gamble. I'll say I am also biased against Turkish imports due to a lot of garbage I've seen get imported as well as Springfield; they're much like Winchester, using a "classic" """American""" name to try and sneakily sell Turk imports at an increased price.

>>63919866
I really want one of their left hand .22lr bolt actions but the endlessly changing models and shrinking availability + improved (or worse) features on newer models just make it a nightmare. Just give me a nice walnut stock .22lr with a 22-24" barrel like some of the Lux/European models, and a mount to add some nice diopters and maybe a bipod. That is all I want. The main 45whatever model looks too plain and the varmint is fuck ugly. I would buy an Anschutz but they are retarded expensive in the US and really go more for the ugly-but-practical sort of German gun and not a nice elegant target/outdoors rifle.
>Why can't I just get picrel in left hand with a dovetail front sight or something similar?

>>63894564
Fentanyl zombies

>>63924185
Yeah I totally glossed over that last night lol (>>63924226). While I do have bias against Turk imports, I still want shit like a MKE MP5 and that Sulun Alof clone. It's just that companies like Springfield and Winchester trying to hide behind an American company name to make "totally American guns guize" (always oddly hiding the "Made in Turkey" stamp in every product photo) that makes me a little suspicious and distrusting of a company. No different from RCA and other "classic" trusted American brands which have since been sold which mostly only still exist to rebrand cheap shit at increased prices, hoping people think it's a company alive and well still making quality products. It's your money but I'd do further research.

>>63924254
This but as a right handed shooter. IIRC their long barrel models in 22LR with irons, wood stock, and a threaded muzzle were only available in Europe for some reason and also it's still only available with dovetail grooves and I don't think it's tapped for a screw-on pic rail on top. I think dovetail looks nicer, sure, but Picatinny is where all the quality rings are as it's a bitch to find good dovetail rings IME, if such a thing exists. Maybe in a midrange breakbarrel air rifle store online like Pyramyd; that's about it. But Leupold isn't going to sell you dovetail rings lol.

>>63924168
The two people in that thread who said they own one and mentioned groups. OP posted pic related. The Bergara is a monster for the price, so is a CZ, and the Springfield is right on their tail for 1/3 the price. Another guy posted:
>1 inch at 50 yds, about as good as I could do.

Can you post groups you've shot with a .22 rifle that exceed 1" at 50 yards?

>>63924168
The two people in that thread who said they own one and mentioned groups. OP posted pic related. The Bergara is a monster for the price, so is a CZ, and the Springfield is right on their tail for 1/3 the price. Another guy posted:
>1 inch at 50 yds, about as good as I could do.
Another guy posted group pics and said
>With Contact and SK Long Range I was getting 1/2" at 50yds. and sub 1" at 100yds.

Can you post groups you've shot with a .22 rifle that exceed 1" at 50 yards?

>>63900273
>Old BX mags were different inside and the spring coil "spool" had slop that people used to shim with a cutoff of a 22 casing.
I have 2 old factory 25 round BX mags, they're fun range toys but not very reliable. I prefer normal 10 round factory mags.

>>63919762
didn't springfield lobby for gun control or am I thinking of like rock river?
also that fucking winchester segment on tfbtv
>we are making this new light lever .22
>where is it made
>turkey
and then all the comments were about how it was turkshit

>>63924074
I ain't buyin a gun made outside the US

>>63924272
>>63919762
winchester also specifically tries to hide behind the
>our centerfires are made in japan
for anyone who realizes they've been a zombie company for years. like for any of the made in japan guns it's pretty easy to find that they are made in japan, but all their .22s and shit they hide that they are portugese or turkshit I guess in the hopes people will think they are American or japanese

>>63924258
I hate druggies. They really do require a cns shot to stop when they are hopped up on meth or fent or whatever. Otherwise they are just bullet sponges

>>63924459
Anon 2 posts down from that I said I found the pic of the better groups; only human here and I corrected myself while mentioning the pic of the ringing in the barrel behind the threads.
>Can you post groups you've shot with a .22 rifle that exceed 1" at 50 yards?
WTF anon you ask that like I said my 10/22 would do it. I said the pic of the called my 10/22 a 2.xx to 3.xx MOA gun lol.

>>63924498
The new BX-15s are a great in-between; I find the 25s too long to be usable outside the range despite the improved reliability. If you have a new 10/22 with a paddle release, the 15s are amazing and I couldn't imagine using the rotary 10rd mags with anything but a button release. The 15s work great with the button release too, though. They do need to be soaked and the channel the rounds feed through cleaned every so many hundreds (or thousands?) of rounds as well as the metal feedlip "block" scraped clean of that waxy black gunk, though, but it's filthy 22; what else can you really do about that? I also clean the spring a little FWIW.

>>63924459
>>63929925
Did I have a fucking stroke or something?
>I said the pic of the called my 10/22 [...]
*On the pic of the barrel, I called my 10/22 [...]

>>63896854
>How do get the big mags to work
Don't use any mags with plastic feed lips. I only use oem ruger mags and do not have issues with them.

>>63929984
This; your mag is also your feedramp for better or worse. I've seen damaged plastic feedlips and cracked all plastic mags; they're weirdly brittle. I also have an older plastic Butler Creek mag with a pretty nasty crack starting in it on the back. I never used it; it's damaged from a previous owner. I think it came with a used 10/22? I think the only actual recommendations for 3rd party I've seen have been for metal feedlip Butler Creek. Ruger is still #1 in quality IMO. There's also a handful of metal feedlip aftermarket out there but quality is a mystery and the companies don't tend to stay in business long.

>>63894553
Zombies=niggers.