Okay /k/ you are now commander of U.S forces in Iran and you have the greenlight to do anything besides nukes, unless the Iranians use chemical weapons or a nuclear weapon of their own. (if they even have one, lol) Your main strategic objective is to limit Iranian civilian casualties and force a regime change in the region through occupying the capital city of Tehran and any other major Iranian cities that mount fierce resistance against U.S forces. Let's talk about how America would successfully invade Iran and what they would need to accomplish before being able to do so. Pic related is a nice map of Iran that showcases well the elevation of the terrain.

Some sub-discussions we will need to have-
>How many soldiers do we need?
>How much infantry and which specializations?
>How do we support them with combined assets including armor, vehicles, artillery, missiles, drones, etc?
>How do we keep them supplied?
>How do we limit Iranian civilian deaths, as not to turn them against us and towards the ayatollah?

>What kinds of threats do the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (Insurgent Forces) bring to bear on U.S troops?
>What kinds of threats do the Artesh (Iranian Conventional Military) bring to bear on U.S troops?

>>63896527 (OP)
My primary working assumption is that we will invade through Iraq. Before that, we'll conduct surgical strikes to neuter the area as much as possible and to soften any conventional and unconventional Iranian forces on the way. We'll probably go through the Zagros mountain range- after we make it over that mountain range their capital is not too far off, as we make it closer I could see the U.S air dropping armor and soldiers directly onto the capital once we begin to siege the city building to building. Before we ever step one boot into the country we'll have to take out all air defense installations, the air force, and as much of their ballistic missile and drone capability that we can. Not to mention their artillery, both rocket and otherwise. The U.S will need to achieve and maintain complete air supremacy and will be doing most of the heavy lifting. I believe the U.S Navy and U.S air force will have to be mobilized in full numbers to achieve dominance and success on this mission.

I would guess that we would need at least 3 million offensive ground troops to stand a real chance at making it to Tehran over the mountains, we will have to bring supplies and armor through the choke points in the mountain ranges and every infantryman may have to be issued climbing gear to be able to scale over and control every Iranian mountain on the way to Tehran. We will have to make heavy us of special forces and mountain warfare units, which will be facing off against QUD's and IRGC forces most likely. We'll likely have to have troops climb through the mountains and run supply lines and armor through the chokepoints in straight lines, because no armor or vehicles will be able to scale Iranian mountains, the infantry will have to protect their armor and supplies on the way- every truck, tank or IFV taken out by Iranian forces will clog the advance through the chokepoints.

>>63896527 (OP)
In some areas we may have to take time to build the infrastructure necessary to support the vehicles as we advance. While the infantry advance through the mountains ahead of the vehicles, they will be spotting and and recording Iranian defensive positions and strategic targets that must be dealt with before advance can continue. This is where naval, air power and surgical strikes will have to come in use- we will need constant 24/7 sorties of CAS to advance and we will have to watch out for Iranian MANPADs. What kinds of defenses will the Iranians set up along the way and how will they choose to use their fleet of armored vehicles? It's quite large, and they do have plenty of tanks as well mostly old and outdated and poorly maintained garbage- but still in our way.

What is your plan?

>>63896527 (OP)
Non-stop carpet bombing in every square inch of the country, then do it again, and then a third time.

>>63896527 (OP)
>drop the gay bomb
>fly aircraft with giant speakers and screens playing Steven Universe and Undertale fan videos
>do this until the Iranian population has been turned into wimpy homos
>walk in

>>63896527 (OP)
>I fire ever single missile we have at Tel Aviv and US bases in the region. Completely emptying our stocks
>order the IRGC to retreat into the mountains the millisecond boots are on the ground
>spend the next 20 years planting IEDs and sniping the occupiers until public opinion forces them to leave

>>63896593
Oh wait you actually want my plans for IS commander. Lol nevermind.
>designate every civilian an enemy combatant
>carpet bomb Iran’s cities until there’s nothing left
>declare victory
>leave

>>63896597
Pretend that says “US”

>>63896527 (OP)
>and force a regime change in the region through occupying the capital city of Tehran
is the occupation part necessary? can't we just wipe out their leadership with airstrikes till we get ones we like?

>>63896527 (OP)
>How do we limit Iranian civilian deaths
Anyone who runs is IRGC.
Anyone who stands still is well disciplined IRGC.

I think the minute you have regular boots in Iran youve fucked up. Look at those mountain ranges, its just begging for another Afgan repeat.
I think if you want to do this it has to be a very surgical air campaign combined with intelligence, cyberwarfare and special forces/CIA to push the population to overthrow them 'organically' so to speak. SEAD and DEAD are key, especailly down south near the straight, really need to knock that shit out and then move on to possible AshM launch positions to allow the Navy a safer AO, this could be very difficult and requires so much intelligence work. If you manage that, start to focus the strikes on military leadership, military infastructure and even some symbols of their power/legitimacy such as regime monuments, statues and that kinda thing. A slow slog of a air campaign to competley erode all faith and legitimacy that the government holds. Avoid knocking out telecoms and other access to information that popualtion can use, have cyberwarfare working overtime to breach and control as much state media as possible to prevent censorship. Avoid making civillian life too hard, do your best to prevent a 'rally around the flag' by pummling the shit out of everything.

The Navy has to be 100% ready to act in the event that a dying government tries to mine or block the straight of Hormuz in any way. Have a MEU ready to deploy from the UAE, Qatar or Saudi to costal city areas in a shock and awe assault if needs be, such as seizing Bandar Abbas port and other key surrounding areas, this is probably the worst part of the operation, that could go south fast, but global oil trade cannot be allowed to get disrupted to avoid economy shocks on the homefront and in allied countries, you cant allow other adversary nations to pluck easy wins from your operation.
Thatd be my phase 1 anyway, obviously not flawless, but dont have the time right now to keep going, sorry OP

Just keep bombing regime stuff. Bomb them so much that they lose control. Arm the Baluch, Kurds and Azeris. Watch the country fall into chaos and just sit back. Make a deal with the group that comes up on top.

>>63896527 (OP)

Dust off the invasion plans for Iraq. Nothing to worry, we will be greeted as liberators.

>What kinds of threats do the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps

They are going to do the same the Iraqi army did after they disbanded. Lot's of suicide bombings and IEDs is the main concern.

>What kinds of threats do the Artesh

Even less than the Iraqi army.

An alternative possibility, considering that the Iraq war cost between 100,000 - 1,000,000 lives, and that we seek to minimize Iranian civilian casualties, is the Truman doctrine: nuke 2 smaller cities killing around 150,000 civilians and demand immediate unconditional surrender, just like Japan in WW2.

The idea behind the Truman doctrine is that, given the unbelievable fanatic resistance that the Japanese had shown, and that famine was wide spread in Japan and was literally killing more than a million people and was set to increase exponentially with every passing year, a regular prolonged invasion was guarantied to cost the lives of many millions of people. Nuking them and ending the war quickly actually saved millions.

Iran showed a similar fanatic determination in their war with Iraq, famously sending children to clear mind fields and losing more than half a million people. Nuking them, like the US did to Japan, could actually save countless lives and made an example to the rest, avoiding further conflicts by Dictatorships emboldened by USA's holding back, trying to avoid civilian casualties like Iraq and Afganistan. The way to hell is paved with good intentions, and the refusal of the US to give the Japan threatment to other shitty dictators like Vietnam and Korea may have costed millions of extra lives.

>>63896527 (OP)
1. Identify the most powerful/popular local anti-regime movement and align with them, assassinate leadership of official government, fly support for opposition, declare oppositiin legitimate.
2. Seize Bandar Abbas and surrounding areas as our "green zone". Do. NOT invade the interior, we are here to support locals, not do the work for them
3. Build giant naval base and airbase and surround area with chain of army bases.
4. Obtain treaty to occupy that land forever.
5. Guarantee the strait of hormuz is forever open and safe so the UN looks the other way.
6. Guarantee however else their civil war is going, our allies are between our bases and the front.
7. Be happy just controlling the strait of hormuz forever.

Nuke Tehran and Jerusalem at the same time???????

Success!

>>63896655
They can just refuse to surrender

What are you going to do, send more nukes?
That wont make the iranian army go away

>>63896527 (OP)
Blockade, Bombard, Broadcast
>no food gets in, no oil out
>delet power and water infrastructure relating to military and governmental sites
>broadcast incountry that it all stops when the Ayatollah and council are removed
No American sets foot in Persia until invited after the peace treaty.

>>63896527 (OP)
>Promise the Balochs southern Iran if they assist us.
>Promise the Azeris northern Iran is the assist us.
>Promise the Hazadis eastern Iran if they assist us.
>Promise the Iraqis and the UAE the southern oilfields if they assist us.
>Promise the Turks (Turkmenistan but also Turkey) northern Iran if they assist us.
>leave central Iran to create a IRGC rump state as a counter-balance to all the new regional powers

All done. Wheres my Nobel prize?

1. Identify a relatively powerful secular resistance organization and send in agents and special operations teams to embed with them.
2. Start massive decapitation strikes and strikes on military sites like Israel is doing.
3. Arm the chosen resistance group with high quality weapons and munitions via the air, as well as to other smaller groups that have been identified.
4. Wait until the Islamic government is crippled enough and the people bold enough to take action with the weapons they've been given to seize control of some cities.
5. Fly the Crown Prince and other government-in-exile people into the first secured city to announce the new government in Iran.
6. Continue bombing the regime's military assets and other methods of asymmetric warfare to render them largely incapable of fighting the insurrectionists, all the while use all of our CIA/Illuminati power of intelligence and secret agent shit to give them the upper hand.
7. Continue forward till the people of Iran see which way the wind is blowing and get on the bandwagon.
8. ???
9. Profit

(10. If popular revolution fails, bomb Iran totally; the people certainly aren't worth saving. Extract all spec ops guys. Declare mission accomplished. No real boots on the ground.)

>>63896527 (OP)
As you can see from your map, you can attack Khuzestan Province from Southern Iraq, which is where the majority of their petroleum industry is located at. Take the oil fields and you economically cripple Iran, combine with bombing military targets and blockading the ports, you'll have enough leverage to settle for an advantageous peace treaty. It'll humiliate and discredit the Khomeini regime and make it easier to cause a revolution. There's no need to fully occupy Iran and start another forever war.

>>63896527 (OP)
>How many soldiers do we need?
Spit balling, 500k.
>How much infantry and which specializations?
Counter insurgency and policing
>How do we support them with combined assets including armor, vehicles, artillery, missiles, drones, etc?
Nothing heavy, it's going to be a counter insurgency while the countries new regime stabilizes
>How do we keep them supplied?
planes
>How do we limit Iranian civilian deaths, as not to turn them against us and towards the ayatollah?
Well the ones on our side will make it readily apparent, so that will help. Problem will be insurgents will probably use this as a disguise. But that comes latter, initially it will be easy. the ones shooting you are bad. The ones who are not are possibly friendly.
>What kinds of threats do the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (Insurgent Forces) bring to bear on U.S troops?
Islamic Insurgency
>What kinds of threats do the Artesh (Iranian Conventional Military) bring to bear on U.S troops?
Insurgency, but many of them would call it quits

>>63896527 (OP)
I nuke Israel and wipe them out entirely, thereby removing the source of 90% of all conflicts in the Middle East.

Iran literally did nothing and was attacked completely unprovoked, essentially solely because Bibi wanted to dodge corruption charges and take advantage of the rally around the flag effect to get the orthodox back on board the coalition. He tried to manipulate America into fighting another war for him for completely self-interested reasons. In previous days of this country, such a blatant attack on our interests from a foreign partner would have led to a CIA-backed assassination attempt.

From the Iranian perspective, they signed a treaty to limit their nuclear program and were complying with it and then Trump ripped it up to appease his buttbuddy Netanyahu. Why wouldn't they want nukes? Israel has essentially proven that they are aggressors and will start massive wars on a whim. Iran has every right to defend itself, regardless of if their government is run by religious nutjobs. Israel is a far greater threat to American interests and the stability of the world.

Mark my words, if a nuke goes off in the middle east, Israel will be the ones firing it. Their national character is incredibly bloodthirsty and they're more dangerous than the Islamists.

>>63896915
This.

>>63896527 (OP)
>Goyim, in this thread you imagine how you can best send American sons and brothers to a foreign shithole to die for Israel

No thanks.

>>63897443
>Iran literally did nothing and was attacked completely unprovoked,
Lol

>>63897451
I'm actually glad someone here has some sense, that was kind of my point with this thread. Invading Iran is a very very bad idea.

>>63896527 (OP)
Reported for off topic.
This is a weapons board and this is not a weapons post.
Stop fishing for tactics on 4chinz, Muhammad.

Back to /pol/

>>63896527 (OP)
>bomb all military assets in the country
>occupy all the high income useful coastal areas
>dont bother passing the mountains
>Iranians migrate to the coast as the central country falls apart

>>63899251
This is a weapons board where we routinely discuss military tactics... what basis do you have for this claim? It is not political, it is explicitly a military discussion as seen by replies.

What is your major malfunction sir?

Take the entire coast. Don't worry about anything else, including the entire border with Pakistan.
Give it to Iraq.
Help defend from the first set of mountains.
Bomb anyone else.
Win you half victory by fighting until Tehran gives up, try again for the rest in 20 years.

>>63899710
>try again for the rest in 20 years.
why waste time on desert and mountains

>>63899742
Because they have potential ore.

Oops wrong map

>>63896855

> send more nukes?

Yes, at that point you are forced to do it or you lose all credibility and you are in the worst of situations: you sacrificed 150,000 civilians and you still have to go ahead with a brutal ground war and you other dictatorships will also call your bluff.

But that is a far fetched possibility, that would only happen once, if you don't back down. Once that you established credibility and people believe you when you tell them you are going to nuke them (unlike Russia, that keeps threatening 1000 times a month), people are going to flee the cities in mass an you'll have total collapse within days.

People in command also have families in those cities and would force the surrender.

>>63896551
>>drop the gay bomb
not sure it would have much effect
they are already muslims after all