/hg/ Handgun General #1608
Walther Edition

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>>63897498 (OP)
Old image but I totally have a walther too
>im kidding

With the fire restrictions in effect and the police action videos failing to stimulate discussion in /hg/, there's no reason for me continuously posting but I will return in four to six weeks to finish the fight

In the meantime: farewell to Lube, Weedgineer, Pomni plushie owner, chrome plated Sig 226 guy, gookfoot, Desert Metro, every anon who supported me and especially the one with a PPK who posts Genshin Impact memes unsolicited!

PS
The only reason I would be back before August is if the fire restrictions end early or someone impersonates me [unlikely] or something really fucked up / relevant happens

>>63897533
Good luck to you anon. I enjoy the bodycam footage.

>>63897498 (OP)
How's the PDP? Debating getting one.

>>63897265
fine and crisp are very different things. they're totally serviceable, but I'm no way are they crispy. spongy is probably the best single word to describe 320 triggers.
>any Smith striker is shit
i think (you) keep saying this and your either no guns or and old fuck who's never heard of the 2.0s. MP 2.0 triggers are leaps and bounds better than any 320 trigger I've felt.

>>63897560
I love it. I picked it up because I was tired of my Beretta 92s and 1911s pulling my pants down when I carry and I wanted something lighter. I also wanted to get a pistol with a dot so I could do a Modern Samurai Project class. I wound up enjoying shooting it just as much as my other guns though. I didn’t think I’d ever find a striker fired gun with a trigger I liked as much as my hammer fired guns but the PDP changed my mind.

anons, I bought these grips and they came in. They fit great but they have an insanely strong chemical smell of some kind out of the package. I had to put them outside until the smell evaporates off them. They look cool but the wood seems unfinished to me, it feels really harsh and dry on the skin. What's a good varnish/oil I can rub onto these to smooth them out and protect the wood?

>>63897569
Solid endorsement. Thanks.

>>63897580
Tung oil or boiled linseed oil.

>>63897498 (OP)

Does anyone make a double action .22 revolver with a double action trigger that isn't ass or is it just not possible?

>>63897651
https://www.guns.com/search?keyword=k-22

Does anyone want the k jannytroon doxx leaks? Those Jews have gone too far this time, censoring real combat footage off k.

I KNOW WHO YOU ARE JANNIES
WHO YOU ARE IRL

Janny scared this gonna be xim

Yeah janny scared all right

Iagl i never thought tranny jannies would get doxxed so hard

I HAVE DESTROYED COUNTLESS THREADS
WHAT IS ONE MORE?
BOW DOWN AND KNEEL
YOUR PRECIOUS JANNY CAN'T SAVE YOU

Muahahahaha
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

After viewing the tranny doxxes, I have confirmed that k janny team does indeed favor berettas, therefore the caricature is accurate, although not all k jannies are Berettatroons oer se

>>63898065
why can't you just post gore instead of your fap folder?

I HATE THE ANTICHRIST
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST
Our Father who art in Heaven,
Hallowed be Thy name
Thy kingdom come
Thy will be done
On Earth as it is in Heaven
Give us this day our daily bread,
And forgive us our trespassings,
As we forgive those who trespass against us (except Jews, trannies, jannies, and glowniggers aka the AntiChrist)
And lead us not into temptation
But deliver us from the AntiChrist
Amen

what caused this nuclear chimpout?

>>63898088
I don't post my fap folder, because the BBC and prolapsed anus folders are specifically in a folder called hg

>>63898092
His buttbuddy glocktroon is going on a 4-6 week hiatus, besides that I don't know

>>63898092
>>63898102
Jannies deleted that hamas tank multikill because they're TRANNY JEW PEDOPHILES is what. We have their real names this time though

>>63898106
Weed is haram

>>63898108
>haram
So is living in Greater Israel (USA), and also so is having Israel as your neighborhood

>>63897560
I don't think you'll be disappointed. Everyone I know that has one (especially very experienced shooters) loves it. For the price, it's definitely punching above its weight for the quality you get.

>>63897651
If you want just a .22 revolver the world is your oyster but if you want one that is the gold standard, you really should drop the ~$700 on the K-22

>>63897533
>I will return in four to six weeks

NO ONE CARES

>>63898108
did you forget about the hash assassins?

>>63898540
would

>>63898625
Would put on a diet.

>>63898658
>Would put on a diet
Yes, a diet of thick ropes.

>>63897498 (OP)

>>63898658
Unfortunately she's gained even more weight but I still managed to coom at the sight of that uggos pink aeorals lathered in tanning oil

>>63898929
Stylish
The light sticks out kinda far, but it doesn't ruin it

>>63899014
Going to get a TLR8XG once I get a new job

>>63898929
nice pistol, nigga.

>>63897542
hows the holster working for you? do you find a single steel clip sufficient? what belt do you use?

>>63897533
>I ruined /hg/ and made all the regulars leave
>thank you bbc spammer for helping me!
>ps please come back so I can ruin it later
faggot

>>63899245
All the “regulars” were the same ten beretta/ltt shills jacking each other off. I’d rather have Glockchad and the weed guy than those fags.

>>63899326
Yeah, sure, faggot. Don't care, didn't ask.

>>63899326
Only one guy calls him glockchad and that guy is supposed to be banned right now for spamming gore and his personal wank collection.

>>63899326
>glock “chad”
>gets offended easily, calls 1 inch groups at 15 yards “unimpressive” while posting 12 inch or more groups at the same distance
>thanks the guy spamming gay interracial porn for helping him ruin the general
It’s likely I’m talking to one of the two parties in question

Do you guys have any recommendations for slim, double stack pistols?
I find it difficult to be accurate enough with the 1" width subcompact frames, but want something thinner than a double stack Glock.
I'm thinking like P99, P2000, 1911 frames so far...

>>63899326
>Glock
>Chad
>Implying a goyslop hipoint rival can be chad

>>63899528
Sorry, obv standard 1911 wouldn't be double stack, but in that thickness range

>>63898512
>>63897653
>want a 617 for the extra 4 rounds
>don't want to have to clean 4 extra chambers

Ben Stoeger thinks the Kimber 2k11 looks cool.
This is your man? This is your god that you follow?

>>63899637
Pretty sure you're the only guy bringing him up for good or bad.

>>63899161
The single clip isn’t a problem. I have the nexbelt x safariland collab belt. The holster is good, the fit is significantly tighter than my TXC, DME, and C&G holsters. I hadn’t heard of Odin holsters before ordering this one but I’m impressed with it. Some people don’t like that the area around the trigger guard on the WML version is wider than other holsters but I don’t have a problem with it.

1,000 rounds of .40 arriving today

>>63900050
Based forgotten caliber enjoyer

>>63900053
I love my USP .40

>>63899326
>Glock Chad and weed nigger
>Prefers a thread with BBC spam
When are you going to finally die? You don't even own guns

What is the best carry handgun under $500 for both autoloader and revolver if I wanna shoot pissing hot loads

>>63900061
I bought a USP .40 in 2020 thinking I was smart. I've shot it once, its an LEM model and the trigger is decent for HK. Thinking about loading it up with Buffalo Bore or something as a bear gun (I live on the east coast so I don't have to worry about Yogi or Coca Cola bears).

>>63899528
I carry a v1 converted to v4.1 p2000. The best way to help improve the accuracy is to install the nickel flat spring . My biggest gripe is the lack of aftermarket sights for the pistol. Apart from that, I'm happy with the gun and I find it comfortable to carry.

>>63900173
>under $500
>autoloader
Glock on sale I guess
>Revolver
Used smith chambered for .357 magnum

If you can come up with another 100-200 bucks you can basically buy off the rack.

>>63900186
Why don't you just shoot it? Personally I have not tried a LEM.

Finally its not surface of the sun temps outside so I can shoot. Got a fist sized grouping at 40 feet today, which feels like my limit unless I work more on my holds with this thing, basically putting the front sight post over my target completely and sending it.

Btw I got my .40 ammo and put it in my ammo safe. I hope you all keep your guns unloaded and your ammo in a separate safe.

>>63900213
Everyone bought up .40 after the 9mm ran out and .40 was even more than the 9mm factory reloads I was having to look at.

>>63900219
Eh, I bought 1,000 rounds at 29 cents per. PMC Bronze

>>63900227
That's fine now, but basically so much time elapsed from when I bought it to when non 9mm handgun calibers returned to normal that I lost interest in shooting .40.

>>63900234
Shoot your USP .40...

>>63900234
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYlyxZXSGgU

>>63900196
Thanks, I've fired the P2000 LEM a lot (but never owned one) and thought it was very nice, just a little flippy. I've never carried one though

>like how my new CC looks with just night sights
>know that I should really just put an actual sight on it
God damnit.

what is a good optic for a DEagle?

>>63900299
Are you me?
>You know these regular irons are kinda mediocre I want better irons
>Actually irons aren't enough I need an optic
>Oh this gun isn't as compact anymore and I still feel like I have to focus more to get my aim right, I just want a basic irons carry
Repeat 3-4 times

>>63900305
I would be remissed to purchase a jewish desert eagle in the first place

>>63900329
They're made in the US bucko

>>63900335
Designed by jews, bucko.

>>63900341
You can't escape Jews anon.

>>63900347
As a White man, fuck Israel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSYjTmV1G3U

>>63900341
Wrong again.

>>63900357
Israel was friends with Whites in Africa when no one else would be, they're okay in my book when the chips are down.

>>63900365
The jew gun was refined and featured in every action movie and it was no coincidence whatsoever.
>>63900372
No, jews (for the most part) hate non-jewish White people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB8dxgFI0vg

>>63900387
Left wing Jews do, right wing Jews don't care as long as you don't want to destroy Israel or are particularly antisemitic. You whine like a college kid.

>>63900393
>You whine like a college kid.
Because jews hate me? No, I'm right. I hate them too for the right reasons.

>>63900402
Even the Muslims kept Jews around anon.

>>63900406
I don't care about muslims at all

>>63900307
>feel like I have to focus more to get my aim right
Explain, because once the skill issue is resolved, a dot is magnitudes easier to use than irons.

How much ammo is reasonable for a new gun in a caliber I do not have for a first shooting and a few range trips to at least get some practice?

>>63900435
500-1000 rounds, basically the cheapest bulk ammo you can get on ammoseek.

>>63900435
200 rounds.

>>63900329
It was made in pillager minnesota

>>63899528
You don't really have many options other than maybe CZ.

I'm skinny and carry a g26 just fine. I actually sold a g48 to get the g26 because I also couldn't stand the slim grip. The trick is using a belt with some stretch in it. Hunter belt, Agonic or even a groove life belt. Pair it with a good holster and it carries just fine.

>>63900485
Shut up jew

>>63900517
Yeah, I have an FNS9c that's in between a 26 and a 19, but it feels just a little thick for me. I could do it, it would just be a pain. I feel like if I could find something slightly in between, it would work

>>63900517
>holster-carrying a G26

nigger why. if you're going to use a holster you may as well carry a G19. the G26 is a failed pocket pistol and /hg/ has literally been peer-pressured by one person into thinking the G26 is a good design. it sure is interesting that NO ONE. NO ONE outside of this general recommends the G26.

I know some anons have a p2000sk. I want to put a WML on it. Any recommendations?

>>63900835
Nta, but I carry a G26 too, very comfy pocket pistol. Perfect with a +2 extension. I highly recommend it.

>>63900940
nuh. G43 is barely pocket carryable and the G26 is bigger in almost every way. tf kind of pants do you wear?

inb4 you deflect by talking about skinny jeans

>>63900953
The blue kind, sometimes black or brown, and literally just put the gun in my pocket.

>>63900835
G26 is a perfect CC size, though.

>>63901042
no its not, its over an inch thick.

>>63901051
Wear it appendix and stop being fat.
I wear my APX that way and don't have issues, and it's a bigger gun.

>>63901054
>tfw hit 150 pounds
Fuck

>>63900929
I was going to say get a Viridian C5 because they look the coolest, but then I discovered that Viridian has since changed to the "tactical" edgy design language with a bunch of weird cutouts.

>>63901054
if im appendix carrying im just going to carry a compact which will feel exactly the same but have a full grip, more bullets and a red dot.

>burt still not here
>my 508t still not here
grim

>>63901085
Nice pistol

>>63901085
>6mg nicotine pouch
Why do I always get shit for 3mg? I'll have 2-3 a day max. They do their job. What gives?
Granted my friend needs 8mg to 12mg minimum even after taking a month off.

>>63901139
i dunno man how about you talk about something that isn't boring prole topics

>>63901150
>isn't boring prole topics
I'm just an educated consumer who knows my place in the universe.

>>63901067
>compact
>full grip

>>63901085
>walther edition
>burt not here
Grim.
Where did you get the Flecktarn tape?

>>63901180
if your mits are so big they cant fit around a compact pistol then you may as well CC a deeg

>>63900929
>>63901115

Nice gun

>>63901139
i'm only on 6mg because i spent a decade fiendishly vaping, destroying both my nicotine tolerance and my lungs. be happy you only need 3mg my dude
>>63901193
>walther edition
luv me pdp
>flecktarn tape
this is genuine name-brand GØØNTAPE® my friend. i guess they are trying to stay relevant by catering to camo autists now that the hype train has left the station

What are you fellas doing tonight? I'm clearing out my backlog of guns I need to clean.
>USP9
>HK45T
>1911
>SP5

Finished
>M9-A1

>>63901085
I'm around occasionally, just working on being less cringe (i.e. not haunting)

>Burt returns
/hg/ is healing

>>63901297

>>63901246
>destroying both my nicotine tolerance
I vaped weed carts from 2020 until February of 2025
You can take a break
I'm not weed nigger but everyone needs to take a break eventually

Just picked up a PX4 today, pretty neat but I forgot how soulless polymers feel compared to something like a 92

>>63901396
I feel you, the full-size isn’t that impressive, much much better with mods but still not something that’s that much better than a 92. I like it but that’s based off how much I adore the compact. Now that’s a gun.

>>63901396
what'd you even buy it for

>>63901407
it looks gay

>>63901407
Im def going to do the trigger bar and a spring after i get a few hundred rounds through it to see how she feels.
>>63901410
because i can

>>63901417
>def going to do the trigger bar
dude's a flaming homo

>>63901407
Why? Is the compact lesser recoiling somehow?

>>63901430
To me they recoil about the same in 9mm (I use DPM progressive recoil springs in both), but the compact is a smaller gun which fits my hand perfectly. I can clamp down on it really good without grip tape too.

The full-size is just a polymer duty gun, the compact is a small gun that shoots as good as the the full-size (IMO).

>>63901430
>>63901440
these are really gay

>>63901444
Now what do you think doesn’t look gay

>>63901284
>SP5
I rented a SBR'd one from my local range a few days ago since I'd never gotten to try one before and I get a free rental every month. I was surprised by just how soft-shooting it is. Nice gun.

I could clean my 1911 and tard gf's Shield Plus, but I don't have much reason to, we didn't shoot enough to foul things up significantly, I just put a couple drops of oil on the rails and wiped off the feed ramps. Re-zero'd her Crimson Trace, it drifted maybe half an inch up+left, we had it turned off at the range so I'm uncertain when it happened or how quick.

2 months of back and forth with S&W customer support and they finally got the replacement front sight post to me for the Shield Plus. The stock one had no tritium, either never filled or glass broke. Rebate green dot at least arrived within the expected window. Honestly, not a bad little green dot, held zero and is clear enough even with me and tard gf's ligmatism eyes. Viridian RFX15. No idea on durability but I'll let you know if it ever takes a tumble.

1911 Operator took a tumble a couple weeks ago when I was experimenting with a new motorcycle jacket (one of those ones with gun pockets) and landed on pavement. Scuffed the slide, beavertail, left side of ambi safety, the edge of the hammer, and my slide release, feels bad but it was always destined to be my beater pistol. Also scuffed the side of the Holosun 507c ACSS I've got on it. Nothing broke though.

>>63901452
really really gay

I think the Surefire is cool though

>>63901455
You’re really rude.

>>63897498 (OP)
can you buy USP new anymore or is it only pre-owned left out there

>>63901481
USPs are still made, the MSRP is ridiculous, the used prices are also inflated. I suggest getting the Expert version since it comes stock with the Match Kit

>>63901487
ok thanks anon

>>63901297
Welcome back, bro! About to clean my HK45T. What was for dinner?

farming opinions anons. Haven't brushed up on /hg/ since like 2020 and am shopping something new. Currently have a CZ pcr I really like but am trying to find something with a bit more. Hope would be to find a setup that works well enough for: home defense/duty, comp/range time, and not ridiculous to conceal (in that order). Other req'd features:
-optics ready
-WML rail
-good/nice trigger if possible

Stuff i'm gonna look at/rent if possible
-PDP (best featured model?)
-S&W M&P performance center carry comp compact or full
-VP9a1k
-what else?
Budget top is ~1k today but i'd love to hear any recs above that if i'm missing a nice tier, i'm not broke. Thanks!

>>63898929
man i wish i had waited to just get a p-01 back in covid

Chat, my IMI Jericho 941 with slide safety arrives tomorrow. I'm going to become the Cowboy Bebop.

Can’t decide on a Steiner MPS or Holosun 507comp

>>63901501
>back in covid
It was when I bought mine when it was $548, I see them going for $800 plus now

>>63901297
witnessed
>>63901389
>comparing weed to nicotine
>>63901501
you are looking for a wonder 9, they are mostly all the same, the key determiner will be which one feels best in your hands. go to a gun store and hold the ones you've listed, those are pretty much the top tier. maybe add the cz p10
just don't get a p320
>>63901513
>Steiner MPS or Holosun 507comp
those are 2 totally different product categories. do you need an enclosed dot or an xboxhueg window?

>>63901551
Those are some fucking sad tendies, like one step above dog food.

>>63901501
Love my VP9K with matching SCS. Completely reliable after over 2500 rounds, good trigger, paddle mag release is great. I don’t have experience with the other 2, although I’ve heard good things about both.

>>63901498
Post pics. HK45s turn me on.

>>63901501
glock, apx, p30

>>63901560
that's all we have out here man. that's the price of living away from lib'ruls

>>63901551
>>63901571
yeah shoulda mentioned, sig is out, i'm not huge on the polymer CZs. Finding out i'm kinda in a lame middle ground wanting more than the off the shelf glocks etc. This started with "i'll get a g19 like i've always said i would and just do an rmr and a light and be done" and then "well can you get more for just a bit more money?" It sounds like the smith and pdp make promise of better trigger/ergos etc for not much more cash
>>63901544
yeah i think my pcr was about the same, i just couldn't find a p-01 anywhere at the time and got antsy about not having *something* while it was all going down

>>63901501
>>63901615
You can always get your slide optic cut for the PCR

>>63900929
TLR-7 HL-X is the smallest light I have, it's a good fit on my P2000 and just barely sticks out from the muzzle. This is what it looks like on the SK, the rail's actually too small. TLR-7 HL-X Sub will fit but I don't have one. If I wanted a WML on my SK that's what I would get though. Hopefully that helps

Dung Eater bout to start posting Arbys
Mfw

>>63901416
Gay and covered in semen

>>63901455
>>63901444
C H E C K E D

>>63901452
>arguing with digits
Just accept, or your cope's going in the screenshot

>>63901477
You're really trans

>>63901565
Ah I don't have one ready. It's already put away. I'll take a nice pic next thread, promise.

>>63901629
True, but I'm still out a light, which I'd like for home. Hence the pcr p01 lament. Could always just trade or double up I guess. Differences are pretty minor overall? I guess the aftermarket can nudge any of these on the list further towards a competition type setup, I just fret reliability. Wanting too much from one gun maybe.

>>63901615
I don’t think you have any experience with gen 5 Glocks, if you’re under the impression that other polymer striker guns like PDPs and VP9s and P10s are “better”. Glocks are lighter, have a DLC finish, have better barrels, etc.

>>63901501
Join the PDP master race.

I finally bought a carry gun.

anons, what's a good light to put on it? Also I want to swap the stock sights to something similar but better. I know the Glock aftermarket is literally massive, and I'm not about to go down a rabbit hole so I'd rather somebody just give me advice from their own experience

>>63901761
if you bought a 19, then the streamlight tlr 7 is the light you want
it's essentially perfectly flush with the front of the 19, and holster selection will be easy

the TLR7 A runs on a regular CR123 battery, the TLR7X runs on a rechargeable CR123 (or a regular CR123), and the TLRX HL is essentially the same as the TLR 7 X but has a lens that gives you more beam throw/higher candela/brighter spot, at the cost of protruding out forward more

I'd get the TLR 7 X

>>63901761
Chad gun

>>63901761
>similar but better
Glock night sights are the OEM upgrade but a carry gun should have hi + lo vis sights like TFX® Pros

>>63897498 (OP)
I want an M1917, but it costs money :|

>>63901769
>it's essentially perfectly flush with the front of the 19

based. Thanks anon.

>>63901640
Holster? I'd love to run a TLR-7 sub on my SK

.

>>63901811
No idea, I carry it without a light in a JM Custom Kydex. Even the custom options on their site don't list P2000SK+TLR-7 Sub. I bought a Tulster Profile (no WML) for the P30SK by mistake once and it still did fit/retain my P2000SK. Since light bearing holsters seem to achieve retention off the light (not the gun), that might make it even easier to find a compatible substitute.

I want a custom engraving in my leather holster. I want "I hate the AntiChrist" written on it

>>63901874
Pics of your JMCustomKydex P2KSK holster? Would you recommend it, even non-light bearing? I currently use a vedder and I am not fan of the clip design.

I want a Colt Anaconda but they're $1500 for no reason.

I can't wait until Smith rereleases more no-lock guns so that Colt is forced to stop artificially pretending to be the only brand making purist revolvers

>>63901928
that's a cool ladder

>>63901928
She has a fat ass and I don't think I've ever given two shits about locks on smith revolvers.

>>63901917
I could probably keep fucking buying holsters forever looking for the "perfect" one and never find it. On this JMCK "Custom AIWB" I think the DCC Monoblock is the most important part honestly. I don't like the FDE color though. But I'm happy with how it feels and it's pretty basic, no claws or wedge.
If the Monoblock or HLR clips will work on your Vedder maybe just try those out. They're a little rougher on belts/t-shirts but I think having the dual clips makes it easier for the holster to move with you, where a single big clip wants to either flop around or torque the whole holster as you move.

What's a good trail handgun? A lot of people recommend 10mm. Is a Glock 20 reliable?

Please help, I can't decide if my pistol had been demilled or damaged.

I've got in my possession an old bootleg FN service pocket pistol from Eastern Europe, but there is something funky going on inside its barrel. I can't tell if it had been demilled or a bullet exploded inside.
Looking from the outside into the barrel it appears as if an intact 9mm copper round is jammed inside. Looking from the inside it looks like silvery solder smeared all over the barrel right behind the bullet. From the length of it there seems to be no casing, only a bullet.
I tried hammering out the bullet, but I couldn't make it move either direction and didn't want to risk damaging the barrel.

I've been told it had been demilled, but there is no indication of that anywhere and I've reasons to doubt the veracity of the claim. The firing mechanism is also intact, making the gun likely to explode once fired, further discrediting the idea of demilitarizing.

Is there anyone here familiar with soviet demilling techniques to tell if my pistol had been demilled or simply damaged by a faulty bullet? Is there a better way of removing this junk than trying to hammer it out?

should I REALLY spend $4k on a new gun, suppressor, accessories, and ammo?

>>63902166
Depends.

How safe do you want to feel and what is your penis size?

>>63902066
There are like 3 places on Earth where caliber choice makes a relevant difference for wildlife defense. Alaska/Western Canada, Siberia, and the African savana. Anywhere else, 9mm is completely fine. Especially in 15rd capacities which the majority of compact 9's can hold.

The caliber debate is retarded fantasy bullshit for losers who just need to get laid or need to find more hobbies than just circlejerking over internet gun lore. Do not buy a gun in 10mm Auto. It's a police caliber meant for more effective penetration and lethality against humans.

Animals are stupid. Save your money and get a caliber that's cheap and fun to shoot.

>>63902167
I don't go outside so the gun is just for rangefagging
Rather large

>>63902176
Suppressor on a pistol if you're just shooting at indoor ranges is a limited gimmick, 9mm is not that hard to handle when you're doubled up on earpro.

>>63902213
It's .45
And I'd have it by my bed in case but I seriously doubt there's any chance of a home invasion

>>63902227
.45 is comparable to 9mm in volume. Suppressor isn't a terrible idea for a bed gun, but be prepared to have it held by the police for a moment if you use it, same with the gun of course.

>>63902165
Maybe someone else tried hammering out the bullet and spread lead wall to wall from behind. Nobody would demil a gun by sticking a welding rod down into a barrel and plugging it with spooge. I don't even think you could do that with either stick or MIG. You'd drive a pin into the side and weld that from the outside, or weld one opening or another. Drill the center of the obstruction out and then hit harder.

>>63902233
Yeah but most .45 is subsonic by default where 9mm is usually not.

>>63902259
As a general rule 147 grain 9mm is subsonic out of handgun barrels and even barrels up to like 8-9 inches. In fact a lot of people that run 9mm 1911s run them with heavier grain 9mm loads since those loads become comparable to .45 performance.

I want to do a 10mm 8" 1911 long slide build. What are my options here? I can find a few options for 7" parts but nothing for 8".
At this rate I'll have to settle for 7" or buy my own fucking machine shop.

>>63902256
>Nobody would demil a gun by sticking a welding rod down into a barrel
You don't understand the level of sloppiness that was deemed acceptable in soviet times.
I don't think it's solder either, but looks like solder with a small impact crater dented outwards. I can't imagine a regular round leaving such a mess behind, unless it was some kind of special weird demilling ammo.

But thanks, I'll try hammering a bit more then maybe attempt drilling it. If it's lead as you say, then the barrel is probably unsalvageable anyways.

I recall anon having a 500 dollar budget for a semi auto and I mentioned used glocks, well now there's ones for sub 400 and it will shoot all the hot 9mm you can throw at it.
https://www.guns.com/used-guns/p/glock-g17-gen5-le-trade-in?i=358765

>>63902304
Maybe a slug could have been braised in there but you could not physically get a welding stick in there to make a blob without leaving burn marks and boogers all over the inside, which you'd see. And you could never get a MIG or TIG arc in there. It's not physically possible.

>>63902319
If it's not the result of demilling, then I have more confidence in getting somewhere with trying to remove it.
There are no burn mark or such, but I see scratches outside possibly hinting at previous removal attempts.

It's very difficult to see and there is no way to take a picture of it, but now I'm thinking maybe a larger than supposed 9mm round got loaded and fired from it, ultimately getting stuck halfway in the barrel. I also got a mishmash of ammo with it I couldn't really make sense of before. All technically 9mm, but different in shapes and sizes.

>>63901640
>just barely sticks out from the muzzle

>>63902415
>reading comprehension
esl begone

>>63902415
>this is what it looks like on the SK
>the rail's actually too small

Glock 43, 43x, or 48?

>>63902448
>reading comprehension
am retarded, my apologies

>>63902017
Thx anon

>>63902558
slimline glocks are so completely irrelevant for any practical purpose now
>but fuck sig
shield plus, hellcat, etc

>>63898929
Where’d you get the P-01 stendo?

>>63901831
I forgot about Aryan Rally.

>>63902558
Glock 26

>>63902295
I've already been down this road.

For 8in longslides, there are a few 8in customs made by Jim Hoag floating around, but he only made them in .45acp and they auction for like $45,000.

For longslides in hotter calibers, there are:
AMT Javelina (7in & 10mm)
Fusion Firearms custom builds (7in & 10mm)
RJ Renner (7in and advertised as chambered for .45 Super, but who knows? They may be willing to do a 10mm)
LAR Grizzly (5.4in, 6.5in, 8in & 10in barrels. Normally they're .45 Win Mag, but they made 10mm conversion kits. They also aren't true 1911's as they have almost no parts interchangeability, but they have the right look, save for being oversized in almost every dimension)

So if you really want an 8 inch 10mm, you can either settle for getting a 7in and putting a 1in bushing compensator (PTP Tactical or Valkyrie Dynamics) on it, or you can get a 2in nose piece from Karl Lippard (though it requires slight machining of the slide, or you can just bust out a dremel if you've got a steady hand) and installing it on a more common 6in longslide (or a 7in if you want an overall length of 9in), or trying to find a custom 1911 builder who is willing and able to make a 8in slide. I don't know who exactly you'd reach out to for that, but someone made a 16in 1911 for Kentucky Ballistics, so there are people out there who will do wacky stuff if you've got the cash to spend.

I went with an AMT Javelina and a 1in bushing comp. AMT has a bad reputation, but I've never had any issues with mine. And I don't use the busing comp that much cause it gets dirty as fuck very quickly.

>>63902624
Based mistake admitter

Burt plz do this

>>63903233
>going postal

>>63902259
Subsonic 9mm is cheaper than .45 ACP. The smaller bore allows less gas to escape and is quieter.

I would be worried about the amount of blowback from a suppressor shooting debris back at you. Of all the things that can go wrong, getting hot debris in your eyes sucks

>>63903267
>Subsonic 9mm is cheaper than .45 ACP. The smaller bore allows less gas to escape and is quieter.
more 9mmlet cope

>>63903342
Nice gun bro, yeah I also make a caliber my personality, see you at the gastropub for a hoppy IPA later

>>63903349
Slow it down there partner

>>63903143
Hello longboi enjoyer, what about the same question with 9mil guns ? Do you have any idea ? I know Glock 17L and USP Elite and I do want to buy them. But that is all I know.

>>63903349
>see you at the gastropub for a hoppy IPA later
Kill yourself faggot

>>63900835
That's BS, anon. I have both a g19 and a g26. The g26 with a plus two draws about the same but conceals noticeably better and shoots about the same. I think a g17/g26 combo is much more practical than a g19.

>>63903487
Based. My biggest regret is not just buying a used G17.4 + a used G26.4 and call it a day.

>>63900929
How bad is the trigger on that thing? I want one but nobody seems to want to use them...

just picked up a Glock 19.5 MOS for CCW to replace my autism G23.3. Feels as expected.

i am a bit sad that i didnt make the schizo choice of the ruger RXM though. anyone have one? I'm not really a Glock fanboy because they frankly aren't anything special, and they're expensive for what you get. Feels like the RXM would be a real bargain though.

>>63902174
this is very well said. However I'll add there's plenty of black bears and, much worse, mountain lions around a lot of the CONUS. If you're hiking anywhere there's any chance of the latter the 10mm is pretty valid.

USP 40 10mm conversion kit for sale. It’s nothing more than an oddity since the idea is retarded
https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/parts-ammo-accessories/gun-accessories/rcm1603-hk-usp-t-40-w-10mm-barrel-with-sti-mag.cfm?gun_id=103139307

>>63901551
>>63901389
I am weednigger and those carts are bad for you. I gotta stop. There are much better ways to enjoy weed, notably bong smoking and edibles

>>63903468
For 9mm handguns, you're almost always going to find that 6in is the maximum barrel length.
S&W 952-2 (6in)
S&W 5906 PPC (6in)
Sig Sauer X-Six (6in)
SIG P210-5LS (6in)
Browning GP Competition (Not a true 6in slide, just has a clamp-on barrel weight that makes it look like a 6in)
Beretta 92 Target Competition (Not a true 7.25in slide, just has a clamp-on barrel weight that makes it look like a 7.25in)

CZ never had a 6in model until recently with the Shadow 2 Target, but I don't think it's available in the US yet. They made some models like the CTS LS-P, the TS 2, and the TSO that had 5.25ish inch barrels. And there are some European companies that have been making 6in CZ clones like Waffen Oschatz and the Frankonia Taipan, but they're rarely imported to the states. Currently the best bet for a 6in CZ type longslide is Tanfoglio with something like the Gold Match series.

And there are various companies that make 6in 1911s in 9mm as well.

All that, along with the Glock 17L and USP Elite V1, like you mentioned, is mostly it. There are some companies, like FN, who market pistols as "longslides" but they are only like 5.2in, and I don't really consider those longslides.

Ben Stoeger did a kind of midpoint talk about his M&P 2.0.
>he wanted to do 10k rounds without modifying it at all but has given up because the baseplates are shit ass nigger bad
>says the huge lip on the bottom of the mag makes reloading it feel retarded and he can't take it anymore
>trigger is OK but he has shot M&Ps with the Apex trigger and the Apex M&P trigger is so good he orgasmed remembering it
>texture is just OK which is interesting because most people think the M&P 2.0 grip texture is insanely grippy
>he took a moment to say the Cyelee Chameleon he put on it didn't get bright enough to be usable outdoors, Cyelee BTFO

>>63903821
My guy anything you can do that keeps you from going overboard before you pass out would be an improvement. I cant tell if you're up really early or stay up really late but I notice you're more offtopic during the early AM hours. Ive had drug addict neighbors with similar cycles, they're normal before they binge on their drugs for that day then get paranoid or weird.

>>63903887
Ben Stoeger literally makes Joel Park come to his house and work on his guns

>>63903903
Yeah, and?

>>63903903
>not having a stable of GM shooters to work on your guns for you
not gonna make it
do you think mario andretti worked on his own cars? do you think that mozart made his own piano?

>>63903927
It’s the funniest thing ever
https://youtu.be/Wjx3gqH_HuY?si=qPDeHygtWA4d6Rx-

>>63903887
Cyeleefag has been real quiet since Ben revealed that cyelee products are shit. Israeli interesting

Ben Stoeger seems like a savant

>>63903991
That's what I was saying a couple threads ago! He probably just only cares/thinks about certain aspects of handgun shooting and ignores everything else. He's fun though

>>63903999
Look at his Canik TTI unboxing. He just throws everything out of the box going "yeah that's cool?" or "I don't know what this is" until he gets to the gun, then he wildly gropes it for a while and goes "wow cool." He's a based retard

Ben Stoeger give me skibum vibes

>>63904018
Haha, agreed
Sometimes a minimalist view like that is great, focuses you on just mastering the basics of the sport/defense

>>63901505
Bros, it's fucking CLEAN! Was expecting something way more beat than this.

>>63904103
get the cowboy bebop grips
you know you want to, you fucking nerd

>>63904103
I had a Desert Eagle marked Jericho as my first pistol. It was super easy to shoot, even at 100 yards, but I just didnt like it. Kept pinching me on the trigger and frame every time I shot. I hope you enjoy yours anon

i carry a g42 AMA

>background checks are getting up to three days
I guess I “have” to get my CCL now.
>why so long
I have a very common name and there’s more than a handful of felons, sex offenders, etc with the same name and a few in the same zip code. Sucks. Adding my middle name used to cut down the wait, but it’s gotten stupid long now. I don’t really want to spend six hours getting talked down to by some faggot instructor.

>>63904136
Nah, I'm not that autism.

>>63904156
That's rad. The balance and grip I can get on this is unreal. I can't wait to shoot it this weekend.

>>63904175
Put your social down on the 4473, I always get instant approval

>>63904175
Imagine not having a unique name like Dovahkiin

>>63903267
I've shot subsonic 45 and 9mm through suppressors. I can't tell the difference in sound. The 45 is a bigger boolit therefore better. I like big thumper rounds. Simple as.

>>63904218
fus ro DAH!

>>63904289
The same suppressor? Or a 9mm vs .45 suppressor of similar make

>>63904358
Different suppressors. I can't even tell the difference in 9mm using a 45 can and 9mm can.

>>63904395
I could tell a difference between 230 gr Winchester super suppressed (?) through a obsidian .45 and 150 gr S&B subsonic through an obsidian 9

>>63904289
Why them bullets in backwards?

>>63905302
That’s correct for HK

>>63905302
One of the first gun related memes, HK made a ad campaign of “Heckler and Koch no compromise” but their photographer put the bullets into the magazine backwards. Magazine ads, where that was the only place to get gun news, had fulllpage HK ads with the bullets in the magazine backwards

>>63905325
Thanks for ruining any fun at all Grok

>>63905328

>>63901688
It's true - i've got a DIY 17 that i did for about as cheap as possible (JSD Judah slide kit? lel) and some oem spec gen3 parts kit. Was a simple project, i know its not representative of the real thing.
It mostly comes down to being inundated with
>muh glock triggers ew
>muh block ergos ew
>muh glock sights ew
>too expensive for what you get
when trying to compare. Its all you see/hear.
>>63903821
literally anything but carts anon

https://x.com/NatlGunRights/status/1938725742763823334
If you guys want pistol suppressors to be easier to get call in now
202-224-3121

Gun range is close, drove 10 miles for no fucking reason. Time to shitpost.

>>63905400
I did the opposite since I prefer land to shoot on not covered in solar panels and Chinese crypto farms, opposed to gimmick accessories.

>>63905449
That was struck down, unless you're just poisoning the well.

>>63905302

>>63905450
No, it’s still in there, it’s just less, learn to read. Any amount is unacceptable.

>>63905461
>these magazines are selling for $$$ on Hkpro

>>63905481
Not sure what you're talking about nor why you'd call to say to not add this back in when it has nothing to do with your spergout.

>>63905493
Don’t get mad at me if you can’t read or stay up to date on the content of the bill. YOUR illiteracy is YOUR problem okay? Gobbless.

>>63905505
I still don't know why you're upset about this getting added back in when it has nothing to do with your spergout. Its not like the the bill isn't going to pass because you had a fit.

>>63905516
Lmao I’m chilling, you’re projecting more than a movie theater over here, your bill isn’t going to pass, that’s ok there’s always next time big guy!

>>63905534
>Crashing out because something unrelated survived a bill that is going to pass
wew lad

>>63905540
>Literally crying and shaking

Bro it’s alright, you couldn’t afford a silencer anyway.

>>63905548
Why are you mad?

Shut the fuck up you yapdogs. Take that tripe to /pol/.

>>63902174
>Do not buy a gun in 10mm Auto.
This is false. Do buy a 10mm cuz they are awesome
^_________^

This general is really /ar/ but for pistols.

>>63905593
Its infested with some the of the /arg/ bastard offspring yeah

>>63905593
Why do you think everyone left?

>>63905593
It’s pretty much on life support right now, /arg/‘s trooncord has been attacking it for the last 6 months and it hasn’t recovered

>>63905647
Its unreal how I see the same exact bait posts on /arg/ infest so many other threads.

>>63905654
It's unreal how guileless sheltered 17 year olds keep replying to the bait.

>>63901396
Inanimate objects have no soul. What you are describing as "soul" is your own aesthetic preoccupation with how the objects you own reflect on your own self worth. It's perfect goyslave behavior to derive any aesthetic value from a product. Enjoy your nickel plated sissy pistol.

>>63905785
Are you blind or retarded? There's nothing nickel plated in that picture.

Is there a reason to buy the MAC 2011 over the Tisas Duty DS? I'm looking at entry level 2011's as range toys.

>>63905839
MAC has some not XC models that look good. No reason not to get the comped models since they’re the same price.

Tisas optic cut is direct mount 407K while MAC now uses Springfield AOS cut, the Tisas rear sight is a Glock dovetail (don’t know what height). They’re both good optics options, the Tisas restricts you to 407K but it’s direct mount and it’s backup irons are fixed to the slide.

The Tisas I think are Cerakoted while the MAC is QPQ tenifer. So MACs have better finishes.

They’re literally made by the same people

>>63905802
You should watch movies from before 9/11 zoomie, they're better

>>63903768
Cool find for someone with a usp 40. The price of a usp keeps me from doing one in 10mm since I don't need anymore full size duty guns. If I did buy one I'd probably ream it myself to be honest even though it takes a few hours.

>>63905895
Huh?

>>63903903
Joel Park is Ben's handler, few know this.

>>63903768
Neat.

>>63903887
How will Cyelee chud ever recover?

>>63905908
It’s some closeted faggot. The PX4 get this retard upset.

>>63905862
>has everything my Poverty has
>with no MIM and a better finish
>for $300 less

>>63903095
https://www.cz-parts.com/cz-magazine-pads

>>63905862
Guess I'll go find a MAC to finger fuck. I handled a Tisas and liked it. Not sure what the fuck qpq tenifer is.
>>63905939
Do they not both have mim parts?

>>63905939
It also has no chamber indicator to fuck up the optic

Who knows about the build quality difference, Springfield doesn’t have any thing good in that corner. My only experience with MAC is this JSOC 1911 that doesn’t want to feed hollow points from 8 round magazines, it does fine with 7 rounders though.

Weird grip safety fitment too, functional, but not like anything I’ve seen where the mainspring housing needs to be filed to allow for a lot more pivot travel

>>63905944
They say "machined parts" but scuttlebutt says they're just non MIM. MIM can be machined, or they could be cast then machined, but Tisas uses forged small parts I thought I read so it's believable that MAC would too. They're still going to be crudeish and not hand fitted, just not MIM

>>63905944
Springfield is full of mim. They put alot of Cerakote to make the slide fit seem tight but after a while it wears off and loosens up

>>63905944
They say "machined parts" but scuttlebutt says they're just non MIM. MIM can be machined, or they could be cast then machined, but Tisas uses forged small parts I thought I read so it's believable that MAC would too. They're still going to be crudeish and not hand fitted, just not MIM

>>63905962
I had my LCI welded shut and it made ZERO difference, so that wasn't actually the problem. Its just the nature of 2011 barrel design to spew out the butt I guess

>>63905975
My Shitehawk and other optic cut 1911s do not have this issue.

I don't feel like going out, I feel like shitposting with my /hg/ bros but some faggot took them all away from me

what's the best can for an hk mk23

>>63906100
the tirant seems to be a popular option
you could always go with the og can, too, if you can find one

>>63905980
I have only the one 2011, alls I know is plugging the hole didn't work

>>63901688
Sounds like you’re guilty of what you’re accusing him of. I don’t know how you could shoot a VP9 and PDP right next to a Glock and come out thinking the Glock is better.
>better barrels
Nigger what?

>>63906192
Glock Gen 5s are extremely mechanically accurate

>>63906190
I hope you're having a good week, man

>>63906190
I still think the deflector overhang plate idea has merit

>>63906190
>sniff… quiet pungent indeed… is that Winchester White Box I smell my dear…

God, I want an USP so much it's unreal.

>>63906192
Both the PDP and VP9 were considerably more “poppy” under recoil than the equivalent Glock in my experience. I really like the grip texture on the Walther and think it’s the best texture on any polymer gun, but I don’t really love the pseudo-finger grooves on the sides of the grip. I don’t like the grip of the VP9 much at all.

I also think that both the VP9 and PDP have too big of a slide release for me and my firing grip, because I’ll get intermittent failures to lock back on both guns. Both are good guns with good track records, but neither are head and shoulders above the Glock on any metric that isn’t subjective. The Glock, PDP, VP9, M&P all occupy the space of perfectly cromulent guns that you should try, and decide which one to buy based on personal preference.

Any recommendations for an AIWB holster for a 92?

Finally decided to make my own fast food + handgun picture

>>63906341
JMCK AIWB 2.0 or 3.0

>>63906341
Just get one with a wing claw because they're heavy so they might try to tip out of your pants.

>>63906342
Hell yeah!

>>63906280
The PDP and VP9 are snappy because they have a high bore and heavy slide. The PDP, Caniks, VP9s etc. are even taller than the P99 because they couldn't make the bore lower so to add optic support they just added more shit to the top of the slide.
It turns out Glonk low bore isn't a meme.

>>63906278
>pointing a gun at your feet

>>63906278
Misato has no trigger discipline.

Blue

https://www.proxibid.com/Guns-Military-Artifacts/Handguns-Pistols/SEIZURE-Kel-Tec-P32-32-Auto/lotInformation/93652861

>>63906363
I actually don’t think covers the whole story, at least in the case of the Walther. For reciprocating mass, the PDP is essentially the only gun in the class that is as light as the Glock (if you don’t count the P365 Macros), as most guns like the M&P and VP9 weigh 1-2 ounces more. The PDP slide is chunky and tall, but I’ve weighed both the Glock slide and Walther slide, and they’re essentially the same exact mass (I haven’t asked a VP9 owner to do the same because it doesn’t seem like anyone on /hg/ still owns one). Maybe you could argue the mass on the Walther puts out more torque because of bore axis/center of mass differences, but I think those are quite minor if you do the math.

I think it has more to do with the different spring rates of the guns, as well as maybe a potentially tighter chamber on the Walther (except the fps tests I’ve seen on the PDP versus Glock have gone both ways, which sorta disproves the chamber tightness theory). Again, both guns are very good, just for different reasons.

>>63906396
It's strange because as far as I know, the Canik series, PDP, and VP9 are all sprung differently but all have the snapping issue. There are probably a bunch of factors but I'm going to say bore is a big one.

>>63906396
There are dudes who have VP9s here but they stopped posting them after being harassed and called maggot grippers for months.

>>63906278
That's a P2000, thought.

>>63906372
>if you think there's nothing wroooong, then this video is for yooouuu
>feels weird pointing a gun at John

>>63906389
Thank you. I didn't know this site existed.

>>63906100
I have a thousand rounds through the Osprey 45. It's super quiet, and the gun is actually more accurate with it. No problem with it, except for the latch on the suppressor comes lose, so I have to use a tactical band to keep it from coming undone.

For the anon in the last topic that wanted an HK45T picture. All cleaned!

Thread is almost dead, but for a 38 pocket pistol, is this pretty much the best?

>>63907007
>10 round capacity in a full size double stack .45
Absolutely pitiful. Why is HK so lazy when it comes to optimizing magazine capacity when compared to literally every single other manufacturer out there? They didn’t even start shipping full size VP9s with 17 round mags until several years ago.

>>63907033
you could make the argument that you want boot grips for better concealability, or the raised rear sights don't belong on a carry piece, but they make the j frame way more pleasant to shoot so i'd say yeah

>>63907043
I agree. It's why I cringe when people say it's a modernized USP. It's not. Like you said, the capacity is less, when it should have been the same or more. It's biggest sin is the lack of the recoil reduction spring. I have no idea why they would do that. The paddle release is bigger, but I prefer the textured button one on the USP. The grip on the HK45 is more comfortable and ergonomic to hold, but when shooting I find it's hard to hold onto the gun, while the brick USP grip stays in your hand.

USP really is just peak handgun. Just a pic rail, optic cut and either the LEM trigger or match trigger standard and it's perfect. I don't like them, but throw some front slide serrations on there too, I guess. Fit some more rounds in there without sacrificing reliability. If Hk really wants to innovate, make the variants easy to swap without practically having to gunsmith. Have all the different safety and trigger options come with the gun and easy to swap. Boom.

>>63905975
1911 Operator .45 and tard gf's Shield Plus 9mm don't do that and they've got notches, even with extremely dirty CCI Blazer. It's gotta be a 2011 thing.

My new targets came in…. I should not find this as funny as I do…. Planning on splurging and taking the 10mm, 44 mag, and 454 to the indoor range tomorrow (everything outdoors around me wants to be on fire) and probably annoying the people around me….

>>63907167
Haha, no, that is pretty funny

I ordered an M*CARBO lightened spring kit for my FNS9c. I 've heard the frame roll pins are a pain in the ass to work with, so I may only change the striker and FPB springs and see if it reduces the trigger pull enough for me. The kit was only like $20, so it should be worth it regardless

we're still having fun
cause you're still the one

>>63907167
That's funny. How do they ship their targets, in a tube or in a flat box? Seems like if toobed, it could be annoying at the range if it doesn't hang flat and curls up.

>>63897498 (OP)
should I build up my stock 34 gen 3 for carry optics or leave it for production and get the 17 gen 5 milled instead?

>>63903657
RXM is a product improved Glock. It's better in every single way as far as I can tell. I always thought the grip angle complaint about the Glock was BS but now I'm a believer. I especially like the red dot mounting system over the Glock and I'm very excited about the future grip modules as I prefer a g45/g26 grip for my needs but I also find the g19 slide length to be the best. Gives me two configurations that Glock never made - a gen 3 g45 and a g26 long slide/g19k.

Can't wait to see what the aftermarket cooks up for the RXM.

>>63907033
For a 38? Maybe. I recommend getting the 32 version with the titanium cylinder. Lighter, 1 more round and less recoil.

>>63908870
>recommending a woman’s caliber
You need to go back

Anyone see the TRex Arms cope video?

>>63900393
As long as you don't want to send billions to israel every year to rape children and are okay with the foreign agency of AIPAC controlling our politicians. fixed that for you retarded boomer

>Cleaning out my car
>Keep finding loose ammo and magazines I've lost
>Even finding slides and a shotgun
>Find like 6 pairs of eye and ear pro
Man I should have done this a long time ago.
Anyone have handgun and handgun accessory/ammo storage solutions they like? I prefer stuff that looks nondescript and easy to move, less so stuff like a gun rack and safes.

>>63908531
Flat box, minimum order size was 250 though…. About 110$ after shipping and tax, but I shoot a lot and when I run out of targets I end up paying about 1$-2$ locally out of annoyance, so I didn’t mind the bulk pack.

>>63909232
Buy a gym bag retard

>>63909232
I hope you never reproduce.

>>63908870
How does the lighter titanium one have less recoil?

>>63909329
because it's 32 and not 38

>>63909343
Oh. I missed that. 32? No thanks.

>>63909019
I watched Ben’s take on it on the way home from the range. I hope Trex crashes and burns. I find Trex’s position indefensible and think less of anyone who supports them, I notice a lot of the support comes from the machine that tried to cancel Grand Thumb over his transphobic statements .

>>63897498 (OP)

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