Thread 63899685

What do you think about the concept? Basically it's a handful of good enough rifles for training or arming other people.

LARP shit. Those rifles will just sit and collect dust.

>>63899685 (OP)
>$450
You can (and should) go cheaper, if you are going to do this
>>63899357

>>63899685 (OP)
>arming other people
The odds of this scenario happening, being necessary, and actually working is so astronomically high it’s actually insane you made this thread. At least phrase it as “if things get shitty and people want guns during a high demand, low supply situation I can capitalize and sell a bunch of cheap guns

>>63899685 (OP)
You don't want to arm people who would otherwise be unarmed. They're not armed for a reason. They're sheep.

However if you are serious I guess you could do worse. A 20 inch barrel in the hands of someone poorly trained will mean the few shots they actually make on target will have the most velocity possible, which is good.

>>63899685 (OP)
>PSA
lmao no. When the boog hits the aloo I'm rolling with a warlord who can actually spring for the gucci shit

>>63899685 (OP)
>What do you think about the concept?
Not a bad idea but July 4th iss coming up so you can probably get stuff even cheaper. PSA regularly has sales for 100 complete lowers

>>63899685 (OP)
Nothing ever happens, you just want an excuse to keep buying goyslop

>>63899758
you're going to get murdered by someone with a BCA and chink shit

>>63899789
why? I'm not a threat or have any good shit to steal, but I can hold a gun and pull a trigger which is much more valuable to a roving war band.

how is this not hoarding behavior?

>>63899795
>I'm not a threat or have any good shit to steal
then what value are you to a war band?

>>63899808
You really want to be the cannon fodder guy in an apocalypse?

>>63899758
>says boog
>hates on PSA
>gucci
Just say you’re noguns, it’s okay

OP
Ruger 10/22's and SACKS full of 22LR and BX25 magazines.
If you wanna arm people that have never shot before this is
the gun to give them. These guns may not lay bodies down
right away but the people using the guns will QUICKLY
acclimate in to the use of this weapon. They'll be hitting
things with them fairly well.
https://ruger.com/products/1022Compact/specSheets/31114.html

>>63899685 (OP)
I've been considering the same idea. 5-10 usable rifles. I know combat vets who only own fudd guns and who don't own an AR because they got sick of them - they don't care if other people have them, they just have bad memories. If SHTF, they'll totally take the AR over any fudd gun. There are lots of useful shooters who simply don't neeeed an AR...until they do. I keep a lot of extra mags and ammo on had for people who have ARs, but like only 3 or 4 mags. Spare bolts, springs, etc. I don't need 4 extra bolts laying around, but a good bolt might save someone's cheap AR from becoming a fencepost. I also keep spare water filters and canteens around. There are a lot of good, responsible people who don't live in a paranoid alt-right fantasy land 24/7, people who would be very useful if something did happen and a rifle was available for them. Some people prep, but their budget goes into food storage and production. Some people spend money on ham radio or drones. Some people spend money on off-grid energy production and machine shops. Most farmers around me have rolls of barbed wire around, welding equipment, intimate knowledge of the land and neighbors, and most know how to shoot well - but they only have a couple of fudd guns for pest control, not even a deer rifle. If the gun guys and the homestead guys and the ham guys and the DIY/hackspace guys each cover the supply bases they're good at for the group, they all exponentially increase their chance of success.

>>63899685 (OP)
At that price just buy a couple m&ps

>>63899826
This. Or a bunch of used beater Mossberg 500s and some cheap 4 Buck. Harder to miss with a shotgun.

>>63899685 (OP)
Its pretty good. Just don't buy then en mass, start a cult, claim you're the messiah, storm a compound held by your cult's old cult, create a whole theology where you're the 2nd coming of Christ, didle kids, claim the ATF trying to arrest you for said didling are agents of Satan (though looking back, that was probably correct), nor create a bunker with absolutely shit ventilation. But definitely fuck other dudes' wives and get them pregnant.

>>63899847
fuck off glownigger he was innocent

>>63899869
fell for it again award
on every watchlist award
noguns award

>>63899808
> I can hold a gun and pull a trigger
>>63899816
I literally did that's what not a threat means.

fucking retards Jesus. Hopefully reading English isn't a critical skill in the post apocalyptic hellscape

It was a cute idea when you could buy 10 Mosin Nagants for $1000, but I'm not putting together and storing shitty ARs for other people.

>>63899826
This tbdesu
Every girl I’ve ever brought shooting has become scary good with a 10/22 in very short order.

Fuck ya
mudda
You're all going in the Friday report.

>>63899758
PSA has gucci in stock tho
https://palmettostatearmory.com/glock-43x-3-41-9mm-doge-10rd-pistol-ux4350201frdge.html

>>63899847
>atf
>impregnating 15 year olds

Out of their jurisdiction fedfag.

>>63899782
>Wait for the 4th
Good info

>>63899739
>>63899806
I spend all my range time today with young men's groups and boy scout types. They'll get used

>>63899826
I certainly need 22lr trainers. Problem is, I'm debating with myself about the best way to do it. Been thinking a Ruger mk4 or Taurus tx22 with a red dot might do more to help new shooters. Jury is still out and I need to try with more guys before I decide. Good thought though

>>63899739
Long AR-15 last longer and it helps retards keep better intuitive awareness of where they're pointing it

>>63900156
>>Wait for the 4th
>Good info
The fact that one of the biggest holidays of the year is a common time for sales is good info? Where do you people blow in from?

I've got some more for you:
The sky is blue
Water is wet

>>63899685 (OP)
I wouldnt trust anyone I know with one

>>63900171
A newguns is born every minute.

>>63899685 (OP)
Arming people who couldn’t even bother to buy their own shit just means you’re gonna get killed by an ND from some retard. However, I do enjoy thinking these scenarios through so here’s one I did a couple years ago. I think the prices listed here are still about the same

>>63899685 (OP)
Impressively retarded.

At this point in time, anybody who doesn't already have a gun shouldn't be trusted with one.

The idea handing out guns to people who don’t already have them is retarded… however the presence of a large number of armed people in an area is likely to have a strongly deterrent effect on anyone looking to cause trouble there, they WILL go fuck around somewhere else.

>>63900224
more like a newbrain

>>63900304
>The idea handing out guns to people who don’t already have them is retarded
that's how every military in the world starts off

>>63900304
Most Americans have "guns." Most Americans do not have a semiautomatic rifle in an intermediate cartridge and enough ammo to do a firefight and a way to hold enough mags for it to be worthwhile.

>>63899685 (OP)
If you don't have enough casual guns to arm you and your closest friends in a crisis, you don't own guns.

>>63900376
It's one thing to arm them. It's something else entirely to give them an effective loadout.
>You get my K98 and a bando of turkshit 8mm
>you get my CZ and three mags
is a far cry in effectiveness from
>Have an AR with a red-dot, like 500 rounds of ammo and a TAP rig to go patrol with

>>63899685 (OP)
>No rear sight

>>63900171
I've been using the same 2 rifles for the last 4 years. If you guys are good at being hyper-shopping ultraconsumers, I'll take the hint

>>63900392
Some guys shoot nothing but competition. Other guys have $4000 bolt guns that haven't ever been shot inside 100 yards. My whole thing is training boy scout types. I wrote a book about it

You can easily train a motivated nogunz to be a good enough shooter with a PSA AR and ~50 rounds of ammo, .22lr training is a waste of time because .223 is insanely mild out of a 20" already. Should you do it depends on your potential militia leader charisma

>>63899812
Yeah, he really didn't think that one through. Being a goon in SHTF is like being a crack addict. When you get a hit it's good as hell, but the other 99% of the time is objectively shit. You'll get the occasional rape and loot spree, but the rest of the time you're living rough, even by apocalypse standards.

Oh, and let's not forget that it's really hard to tax people whose possessions were stolen and houses burnt down, so the first objective of any government that forms will be shutting that shit down with prejudice.

>>63900408
>Some guys shoot nothing but competition. Other guys have $4000 bolt guns that haven't ever been shot inside 100 yards. My whole thing is training boy scout types. I wrote a book about it
Ok, so you have 2 ARs? Most guys don't have any more than that, even if they are "gun guys." If you are really doing the prepper thing and feel like blowing 8 grand on guns, it actually sort of makes sense to be ready to outfit a squad of skinnies

>>63899685 (OP)
I personally think the correct way to do this is instead of having a bunch of shitty rifles to hand off to have one ok rifle. This way you have an ok rifle when friends or family shoot with you instead of a shitty one, and I really think in a SHTF scenario all the people I would want to have guns would have them, but could see the use in having one backup gun to handoff (someone I trust can’t get to theirs, lost it in the SHTF scenario, etc.). The idea of a bunch of shitty rifles though I think is unnecessary but that’s just personal opinion.
I think you’re doing “bunch of shitty rifles” the right way here.

>>63900408
It's called being frugal and having the mental capacity to plan ahead. If you are ever buying guns, ammo or accessories at MSRP you are doing something wrong

I want everyone disarmed now that I'm armed.
Especially the government.

>>63900417
If the nu-government is the big swinging dick then obviously I would just roll with them
>>63900023
otherwise rolling with this kind of homeboy hell yeah

>>63900409
Except depending on what brand you buy .22lr can be 1/10th the cost of even cheapo .223. Also, training somebody with no experience with just 50 rounds is a hell of an optimistic outlook.

>>63900430
ARs are easy as fuck to shoot, and anyone who you would want to give a "nice" rifle to already owns one probably. Besides, 90% of the difference between a nice AR and a "shit AR" is like 2 MOA of accuracy and a chrome-lined barrel, neither of which matter much when you are in SHTF. You won't have enough ammo to burn down the barrel and 3 MOA is fine unless you are fucking around in fields (aka, dead from drones)

>>63900423
I sold one so we're short. A gunsmith buddy was supposed to build me a new one but he fell through.

It's not just about arming random guys from church. It's about taking them out next weekend to train. Using decent kit first really smooths this out

>>63900442
I had been looking at 5 rifles for about $2300. Curious now how much cheaper it can get.

>>63900455
The one thing people hate more than a thief is a turncoat. Nu-government would string you up by your balls and so would your old raiding buddies if they caught you.

>>63900423
>Most guys don't have any more than that, even if they are "gun guys"
do you even like guns?

>>63900469
>It's not just about arming random guys from church. It's about taking them out next weekend to train. Using decent kit first really smooths this out
At that point, they can still buy their own rifles, and they should buy their own rifles.
>I had been looking at 5 rifles for about $2300. Curious now how much cheaper it can get.
About $350 per rifle (plus shipping, tax and transfer fees)
>>63900480
I see no reason other than the above to own 5 versions of the same pattern of rifle. Having 5 ARs is like being the boomer who has every possible year and factory of mosin nagant. Just retarded.

>>63900478
wut? Nobody said anything about turning coat. My apocalypse plan is to chill out. There's almost certainly gonna be 1 group that will rapidly come out as the big dawg

>>63900469
At the bottom of the barrel there isn't quite as much savings, AR's are pretty much bottomed out imo. Full metal AR's (by which I mean, not ATI hybrid bullshit) frequently go for $400 (+ tax & shipping & transfer & tip). Rarely some $350 ones will come up. Or if you're really keeping on top of sales and assembling yourself from parts. Ammo is a big one to catch sales on, gear and optics almost always have holiday sales.
>>63900490
It's not the same rifle they all have unique barrel lengths, furniture, optics, etc. Not all are even 5.56
>but why
I like AR's. That's not even all of them in that pic

>>63900508
>My M38 and M44 Mosins from Tula and izveshk are SO different
They are all ARs. I get having at most 3.
>Rifle
>shawthy
>.300 Blackout
Anything past that is just being a consoooomer, and you should spend that money on more ammo and better optics or nods.

>>63900355
I really dont see a scenario where overweight average joes from the neighborhood will be in an extended firefight like they are macv sog
Bigmacv sog more like aha

>>63900526
I could see a straightwall hunting upper for hunting.

>>63900526
Got plenty of ammo, 2-3k stashed right now. Go thru around 150-500 a month depending how busy I am (more if friends/family are involved) and restock regularly when there's deals.
>nods
would be cool but I don't have anywhere to use them right now, so would be a legitimate waste of money unlike my AR's which are shot regularly.
Every man has his vices.

>>63900556
>Go thru around 150-500 a month depending how busy I am (more if friends/family are involved) and restock regularly when there's deals.
Shoot more.
>would be cool but I don't have anywhere to use them right now, so would be a legitimate waste of money unlike my AR's which are shot regularly.
LARP in the yard.
>Every man has his vices.
And some vices are stupider than others

>>63900547
Sort of fair, except that it doesn't happen until it does, and dudes with ARs and a bunch of mags in uniform chest rigs look a lot more intimidating than rednecks with shoguns (and for good reason too)

>>63900462
> anyone who you would want to give a "nice" rifle to already owns one probably.
Did you even read my post? That was the point. And by nice rifle I don’t mean gucci, I just mean a nice rifle.
> You won't have enough ammo to burn down the barrel
If you’re handing out rifles to conscripts they probably will, it doesn’t take a lot to get that barrel hot as fuck and fuck it up if you’re dumping rounds. And most people’s first instincts at danger will be to dump rounds.

>>63900565
Nah that's plenty for me. The government isn't paying for my ammo or time, it's not a job it's a hobby.
>larp
Don't have larp property at the moment. It's the plan though. I ain't selling any AR's though and to be honest will probably have several more by then.
>some are stupid
The government with literally give you a gucci gun and nods bro you don't have to spend your own money on it.

Its a really stupid idea. If you actually wanted to do this and not be an absolute waste of time:
>take armorer's course/ teach yourself (very doable)
>buy necessary tools
>wait for blem sales/ close outs etc
>assemble them piece by piece
This way when you finally realize what a dumb idea this was you had learned a valuable skill, learned a valuable lesson, and have some guns you can probably get your money back out of.

>>63900664
I don't think I can compete with PSA on price. At all.

>>63899685 (OP)
During the 2020 BLM/Antifa color revolution it was almost impossible to buy a rifle and ammo and everyone was leaning on every one else to have a weapon for them.

I think it's a good idea to have a rifle on hand for extended family members who are not armed because they will ask you during an emergency.

>>63899685 (OP)
you can get androcorp for less and theyre not as shitty as PSA

>>63900750
This. I disagree with everyone shitting on OP because it's only a half bad idea. I think realistically, if you shoot enough and enjoy the hobby, with enough time you should consooom and accumulate 4-6 guns eventually. These will all be things that you want and that you shoot regularly. SHTF never happens the way it's depicted in movies. It's usually a natural disaster in developed nations, or flavor of the month of civil unrest in shitholes. In all these cases most defensive gun use us the same as in a thirdie shithole: defending yourself using your CC gun. You need society to go full Haiti tier to see regular consistent rifle use. That is laughably unlikely, which means your own private collection of random handguns and rifles should be adequate. If you really want a small stockpile just buy something cheap that you might like and shoot it.

>>63900469
If you're just shooting with friends then just share the rifles you have. If they're noobs and you anticipate regularly training noobs buy a single trainer AR or better yet, a .22 rifle like the guy above says. Give your friends the TLC they deserve and train them in marksmanship 1 on 1, not in some wal mart larperator bullshit class. They'll get better faster that way.

If you insist on large group shooting and ymfor some reason your students refuse to bring their own guns just buy a bunch if cheap .22's. If they get serious they can buy their own rifle eventually. Ruger .22's are perfectly adequate for property defense. Nobody is going to fuck with an autist militia spamming accurate (cheap) fire at them.

>>63900156
>I spend all my range time today with young men's groups and boy scout types

cringe. do people your age call you out too much so you hang out with impressionable young-uns?

>>63899685 (OP)
>ZOMG I GOTTA CONSOOM MORE TO PREP FOR DA BOOG IN 2 WEEKS!

>>63900686
So buy blem psa's. You still should be able to wrench on them.

>thread full of people butthurt they can't afford a pile of rifles just to loan out to friends
If it were 2001 and OP was asking if he should buy a crate of nuggets for $75 each, you'd all be shitting on him for that too.

>>63901068
>you'd all be shitting on him for that too
Yeah, because buying mosins to try to arm people effectively is retarded.

If your point is that the crate should've been bought because it was a good deal, realize there was always a finite number of mosins, whereas there's no reason to expect a PSA 20" AR will ever be a rare item.

>>63901129
If you need a rifle, a mosin is infinitely better than a fat sack of nothing. And if you think ARs are still going to be cheap and legal for civilian ownership in 20 years, I've got a bridge you might be interested in.

If OP would have to stretch himself to buy the guns, then sure, probably not a great idea. But if $2500 is no big deal, then why not pick up a few spares?

I believe you should buy the most expensive rifle possible and stop being a poorfag

>>63899685 (OP)
Because if they lack the discipline to buy a gun themselves, they probably lack the discipline to train and absolutely lack the discipline to fight. At best you'll have a bunch of armed yahoos that can vaguely shoot in a straight line and can maybe move in loose formation. Really, if you're gonna buy rifles you should also invest in a shared uniform piece of clothing, LBE, and radios

>>63900961
How many weeks has it been since you learned anything or ran farther than 40 yards?

>>63901053
I'll be taking them all to bits, checking and putting them back together. You are absolutely correct that it matters

>>63900948
This is very reasonable. At the moment, I only have 1 AR-15 and it's just not enough. 15 would be way too many so I'll probably grab 2 more on the 4th and see how that feels.

>>63901252
I'll be getting assault packs and chest rigs to go with. Maybe even bayonets

>>63900976
>shitch 2 costs more than a blem pa15
lel

>>63900948
A great case study to read up on is Hurricane Katrina. All of my coworkers wanted guns and to learn how to shoot after that.

>major disaster inbound
>national guard goes door to door disarming all law abiding people (Whites)
>entire city is flooded
>total social breakdown occurs
>cops stop patrolling the streets and go home to take care of their own families
>total lawlessness everywhere
>home invasions
>groids steal everything that isn't nailed down
>smart Whites who hid guns form small local militia to repel home invaders
>lots of rapes and crime committed against ordinary people
>blackwater deployed to defend and extricate VIPs
>absolute shit show

In a nutshell, you are responsible for your own security. If society breaks down, you will be on your own unless you are very wealthy. No one will be coming to help you. If you don't want to be responsible for securing your extended family, you might want to look into buying a few rifles that could be sold or loaned out in an emergency. If an emergency kicks off and everyone knows you have guns and you don't help your family, they will be pissed at you.

>>63901234
How does that help
>Loss, Fire
>Getting shot or blown up
>Out of ammo
>Need to travel through restricted area
>Need to sell
the things that really take a rifle out of service work the exact same whether expensive or cheap

>>63899838
>giving guns that you bought and are traceable to you to a bunch of cracked-out welfare queens with PTSD the next time there's a riot
Yeah what could possibly go wrong?

>>63899758
I actually have this upper, bought it for really cheap. Pretty sure it keyholes LC M193 at 93m. Pretty gay, but on the other hand that would be gnarly on a soft target.

>>63899890
>> I can hold a gun and pull a trigger
so can a child
you are of no value

>>63903295
Child soldiers are valuable though. Human capital is going way up during the boogaloo, there is literally nothing more important than having more dudes on your side.

>>63899826
>>63899846
>>63899940
.22 are unrealiable
Price of a shopped around AR15 is the same or near enough to not even bother.
Same metric applies to women i have taught to shoot AR15.

Food is easy and cheap
Seal wheat and sugar in mylar
Dont fall for gimmicks not going to be CLDS on price
https://providentliving.churchofjesuschrist.org/food-storage/home-storage-center-locations-map?lang=eng

>>63899685 (OP)
why?

>>63899739
>They're sheep.
Yes, and sheep make great peons. How else will I become a post-apocalyptic feudal warlord?

>>63903275
Honestly I'm just bored. I also leave handguns in meth houses.

>>63903450
>Child soldiers are valuable though
yes, but you aren't
unless they want your boi pucci, you are just going to end up dead in a ditch
no one wants you

>>63901224
That's not the issue. The issue is that the Mosin analogy is completely retarded.

>>63899685 (OP)
Has always been a stupid idea. It has only been vaguely ok if you have blood family who you have a good relationship with, and even then that is an act of love. Trying to larp as some kind of regional warlord when you can't even talk to people IRL is stupid. Waste your money on stacking ammo instead dummy

>>63905645
>Waste your money on stacking ammo instead dummy
How is that more realistic? What's 12k rounds of ammo going to do for a single person?

>>63899685 (OP)
You'll probably break even on printing your own lowers, and then you'll have a printer on hand if you want more or need replacement parts or HPA passes and you want a bunch of disposable suppressors or whatever.

>>63899685 (OP)
>>63899720
Having ONE cheap shitty gun for your friends and relatives that want to learn how to shoot is a good idea. Don't hand them your $10k custom build.

that said you don't need fucking 20 cheapshit ARs

>>63905696
Let's see
>could be used to hunt
>could be used to kill anything that gets too close
>could be used as a currency, far more practical and sensible than trading gold or silver innapocalypse
>could be used to arm other people who already have guns but are light on ammo
But yes, 5 cheap ARs with a much smaller hoard of ammo is a way better idea

>>63905696
You’re such a fucking dumbass anon lmao

Son of a bitch came through with the custom upper after all. Thread is cancelled boys I bought something expensive and tasteful

Here's a photo of the worst rifle I've ever seen for your troubles

>>63907060
is that a side-mounted frontpost above the taclight?
also, holy shit that muzzle break. This gun is going to need a good amount of care and love to put back to proper functional use

>>63907074
Yeah it's honestly impressive he managed to make every choice wrong. You'd think something would have been fine by accident

>>63907060
Thanks I hate it

>>63900480
Wow 6 absolutely shit tier guns and not a single good one. I'd rather have 3-4 guns that are all S tier than a pile of poop worth maybe 1-2 good guns.

>>63899685 (OP)
You don't have friends to train. Get real.

>>63908417
>I'd rather have 3-4 guns that are all S tier
Post 1

>>63899789
Those guys will get murdered by Gucci guns first, because someone who doesn't invest in good gear does not invest in training either.

>>63903275
It's amazing that you can type but can't read, like at all.

That’s $450. They do completes for less than that. The parts kit version for their Freedom rifles (their cheapest) is never cheaper than completes. Sometimes their other variants are cheaper in kit form.
Just wait for a sale on something with free shipping.

>>63905583
I don't think you understand how large armies are created.

>>63908417
They all shoot bullet very well. IDK what more you want them to do.

>>63907074
>taclight
I haven't heard this terminology for decades>>63907060

>>63900033
Correct, feds like buggering preteens

>>63899685 (OP)
Just get a good rifle and replace the barrel when it gets shit? Or one good lower and 2 uppers so there's always one with a good barrel?

>63900455
>mmmm boot leather omnomnom

>>63908417
Rock River is goodnuff you tranny geardo. I bet you can't even ring steel at 100m.

>>63900490
>paid sub 1000 for a collection now worth 6 figures
>"retarded"
how's the view from your glass house

>>63908935
I don't think you understand that you are worthless and warlords aren't just going to let you rape and pillage with them

>>63913305
sorry are you implying PSA rifles are going to be worth a shitload because of some hypothetical gun ban in the future?

is THAT why you guys hoard shitty guns?

>>63899685 (OP)
PSA haters are just mad they payed 3x more for the same rifle.

>>63916899
Hmmm who do you think is gonna be the more successful warband/militia/new government? The free anarchist looters who literally cannot stop raping and fighting each other? Or the one that recruits people and gives them a gun?

Give both your braincells a workout and think about it.

>>63908417
We are still waiting anon
>>63908666

>>63899685 (OP)
I like the idea. I just heard someone complain the front sight was canted. Otherwise $340 for the upper and lower ((-) the bcg and charging handle) is tits

Huh, apparently springfield’s AR15 is made in the USA and still costs $1400. But I’ll never forgive them for scamming people into buying a croatian-made pistol with ‘american heritage’ included with a holster made in israel. Fuck springfield.

>>63916907
>is THAT why you guys hoard shitty guns?
all ars are aluminum shit

>>63904556

So are Ar15's

>>63919213
The PA-15 has been field-tested in the concrete jungles of America numerous times and has proven its worth

>>63919013
WRONG. Polymer, magnesium, and stainless steel lowers all exist and ARs can be built without a single piece of aluminum on them.
>Ok plastic then
You can also build ARs with no plastic on them

>>63919320
ok then they are also polymer, magnesium and steel shit

>>63899701
As opposed to all of the rifles you own that you definitely 100% for sure train with every week of course. Just let the guy spend his money.
>>63899685 (OP)
Buying guns is literally never a bad investment. When have you ever seen a gun get less expensive?

>>63921827
ARs over the last 20 years

>>63899701
They will join my other rifles that do the same thing.

>>63916924
Paid you simultaneously financially and literary illiterate motherfucker

>>63899758
You're more likely to get clapped by a nigger toting a rusty Jimenez .380 with half a mag of mismatched ammo next time you go pump gas.

>>63899685 (OP)
No point in having more then 1, maybe 2 of them at best.

>>63899685 (OP)
>Basically it's a handful of good enough rifles for training or arming other people.
so long as you're actually doing it and not fantasizing, based then

>>63901399
>shitch 2 costs more than a blem pa15
You know, it sucks surplus rifles are harder to come by and are a few hundred more and ammo isn't as dirt cheap like it was 20 years ago, but a lot of people ignore the fact that the gun market as a whole is far better and is continuously improving. Imagine telling someone from the 90's that they can get a good functioning AR for around $400, let alone all the other options available to the public like NVG's.

>>63899685 (OP)
Gunsoooomer horseshit catering to the same delusional boogaloo fantasies.

>>63928975
Still less gay than the guys paying like 13k for knights armament DMR clones

>>63899720
Dumb take, it's a cheap force multiplier
After you have your rifle setup, and ammo, training, optics, plates, sustainment, NV, thermal, etc etc, there's nothing really left to do. Honestly, you hit diminishing returns on the return on investment pretty quick.
But three extra rifles to hand out let you quadruple the rounds you can put down range, cut the chances you're the target of returning fire by 75%. Three extra rifles will costs less than a lot of what a lot of you are thinking of buying 'next'.
If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together.

>>63931750
Fuck off james wesley rawles lol

>>63899685 (OP)
>nickel boron
theyre still making this meme shit?
hard chrome as god intended

>>63899847
All these false allegations and you didn't even include the actual false allegations used by the feds. Pathetic.