Thread 63901514

>iranian nuclear program completely obliterated
>quds force leadership gone
>khameni in hiding, possibly dead
>8000 dead IRGC grunts
>the entire airforce wiped out
>entire air defense system wiped out
>all missiles and missile launchers gone
>unconditional surrender granted
And that was all without any American involvement except for the strikes on Iran's mountain bases. No intelligence sharing, no airstrikes, no interceptions, nothing.

>>63901514 (OP)
>Lust provoking image

>>63901514 (OP)

Their culture is dogshit. Top down dictatorships, rewards by loyalty instead of competence, no initiative in the lower officers due to both culture and fear of revolt.

>>63901514 (OP)
Lol is this a fanfic? Literally none of those things happened. Yeah Iran (not Arab btw) sucks at war that's not news. Making it even more humiliating for Israel that they failed to achieve even one of their objectives.

>>63901514 (OP)
I want to believe the F4's will rise again.

>>63901514 (OP)
Tiny country stood against Judeo-West for a couple decades bent on its destruction. That seems pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2KQYP6XR28

>>63901562
>Iran (not Arab btw)
cope

>>63901562
Iran was colonized by muslims so they aren’t fully persian

>>63901562
>Yeah Iran (not Arab btw)
Iranians are just arabs with delusions of grandeur.

>>63901598
>England was fully colonized by Normans that's why they aren't English

>>63901514 (OP)
Why are Americans so bad at war?
>lost War of 1812
>lost Civil War
>little impact in WWII
>lost Korean war
>lost Vietnam
>fucked up Iraq (ultimately lost)
>lost Afghanistan
Why can't the country that spends the most on it's military succeed at a single conflict?

>>63901698
damn this nigga seething like mad fr

Why are you so bad at English and speaking the truth?

>>63901698

Gulf War was a victory, along with many others.

Both of you are full of shit, allergic to speaking the truth.

>>63901514 (OP)
>8000 dead IRGC grunts

Every source I could find doesn't even have the total Israeli-Iranian death toll at 1/10th that number

They're no bad. They're average. They just look bad against the greatest military in the world.

>>63901724
>thousands of Israeli airstrikes only result in hundreds of casualties
Sure thing abdul

>>63901698
>lost Civil War
>little impact in WWII
>lost Korean war

niggawhat

>>63901514 (OP)
Iranians aren't Arabs. I think this is just what theocracy does to a motherfucker.

>>63901736
all sides lose in a civil war, american involvement in the European theater probably only sped up the inevitable defeat of Germany by a month or two (who gives a fuck about the Pacific, we'd probably be better off if the Japanese won). And yeah, the Norks handed you your asses, that's why 45-47 worships Kim's ass

>>63901514 (OP)
Arab "culture" is antithetical to modern warfare. That is why they perform so poorly in all facets of conflict.

First and foremost, fifty generations of inbreeding have made them clinically retarded, with IQs ranging from the low 70s to the mid 80s. Their reflexes, eyesight, height, muscular mass and general health is also subpar, with an alarming quantity of birth defects, if they make it past that point even.

Second, they never industrialized and lack the plethora of various blue collar workers which make the backbone of a procurement chain that is self-sustaining. Their maintenance also suffers as a result of lacking the technical skills that come from having a semi-educated middle class of blue collar workers.

Third, loyalty is valued over competence. Arab societies are top down, caste based, patriarchal tribes, and I do mean tribes in every sense of the word. There is no notion of a national identity whatsoever. The lines on the map mean nothing, because Arab countries are, in every sense of the word, made up. Trust extends to the next of kin and within the tribe, meaning that complex and most importantly, dependable command and control structures are impossible to implement.

Fourth, they are a face-saving society. All they do is highly choreographed and institutionalized to maintain their standing in their caste and tribe.

Fifth, they lack any form of personal initiative whatsoever. In the Arab world personal initiative is seen as dangerous and covetous behavior because it can upend their tribal society. Free thinking is quashed and operational freedom is nonexistent. Moreover, because they are a face-saving society, when faced with a lack of direct orders given by a well defined and understood chain of command, they'll opt to do nothing, because that's seen as more socially acceptable than to showcase personal initiative and risk upsetting the status quo or worse, failing and having to shoulder the blame.

They are simply not cut for it.

>>63901732

A lot of the Israeli sorties are against infrastructure rather than soft targets (as in people).

>>63901765
>A lot of the Israeli sorties are against infrastructure
A thing a third world shithole like iran doesn't have a lot of kek

>>63901514 (OP)
Woah buddy Iranians aren't Arabs, they got a whole load of different cultural baggage which includes incredibly toxic face culture as a baseline on top of the chunni authoritarian theocratic government. Go look up how Khomeini wrote Islamic legalism about hypothetical shit about an aunt falling onto a dick in an earthquake and if that's hypothetically incest. Remember that's Khamenei's predecessor and he's basically the Shia Pope.

>>63901740
>>63901562
>Believe in supernatural hullabaloo
>Brown
>Cartoonishly amoral
>Corrupt
>Despotic autocratic regime
>Engage in / finance international terrorism
>Face saving culture
>Fuck goats
>Garbage soviet kit / domestic variant of garbage soviet kit
>Hate Israel and the West
>Incompetent in all facets of warfare
>Mistreat women
>No personal initiative
>Nuclear program bombed by the IAF
>Oil export based economy
>Saber rattling
>Squeamish about alcohol
>Tribalistic
>Wear towels on their heads
>Worship a pedophile
They tick all the requirements for Arabhood.

>>63901514 (OP)
That's actually a very deep question. They didn't successfully make the transition to firearms and it's only been downhill since then. Dan Carlin did a spot on it on one of his podcasts way back when, referencing when the Romans ruled the known world and other less successful nations tried (and failed) to beat the Romans at their own game once they'd realized that their usual methods weren't effective.
>drilled their soldiers like romans
>hired romans to train and lead their soldiers
>used roman equipment and tactics
>went up against the romans and got their asses beat
>went up against the romans with favorable terrain and superior numbers and still got their asses beat

Many such cases. Ask yourself why Mongolia is what it is today, and why it's not what it was 800 years ago. History has shown us that certain people can only fight effectively in certain ways. When those ways are the meta, they dominate. When they aren't, they're irrelevant. It's probably a cultural thing somehow, but I've never heard anyone clearly explain what that somehow is.
>inb4 room temperature iq
It happens in places with winter as well.

>>63901778
I suspect a lot of people are too lazy to search so:
>Imagine you are a young man sleeping in your bedroom. In the bedroom directly below, your aunt lies asleep. Now imagine that an earthquake happens that collapses your floor, causing you to fall directly on top of her. For the sake of argument, let's assume that you're both nude, and you're erect, and you land with such perfect precision on top of her that you unintentionally achieve intercourse. Is the child of such an encounter halalzadeh (legitimate) or haramzadeh (a bastard)?

>>63901778
>>63901781

>>63901788
The thing is aside from Saddam, the Arab nations aren't total face monsters that seem like a chunni theocratic version of China that angrily snarls like a Poopy the most Pissed Chihuahua. Iran's another level of lulcow.

Should check out Saddam's transcripts too. God I hope Iran actually recorded all the conversations they had with their mullahs and one day we'll get transcripts of those too.

>>63901794
They had to be civilized with a few wacks to the head though. Like Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. And they still finance terrorism under the table.

>A shocking surprise for the Zionist enemy After the Israeli entity announced their assassination, The emergence of a number of senior leaders
>Admiral Ali Shamkhani, political advisor to the Supreme Leader of the Revolution, is alive.
>Brigadier General Esmail Qaani, commander of the IRGC-QF, is alive.
>The chief of staff of Iran's armed forces, Abdolrahim Mousavi, is alive.
> Defense Minister Aziz Nasirzadeh is alive.

All of their Wikipedia pages now list them as alive and they have been seen in public. Before they were marked as dead due to Israel lying

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Shamkhani

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdolrahim_Mousavi

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esmail_Qaani

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aziz_Nasirzadeh

>>63901854
If I was any of them I'd continue to play dead. Thankfully they're not very smart.

>>63901854
DELETE THIS

>>63901854
>jidf shills immediately abandon the thread
Typically/k/, never change

>>63901854
bad intelligence, it happens

>>63901588
What? Phantoms are fucking fossils at this point

>>63901854

/k/ike Sisters????!!, we got too cocky

>>63901514 (OP)
https://www.meforum.org/middle-east-quarterly/why-arabs-lose-wars

>>63901514 (OP)
you still got defeated in afghanistan

>>63902673
Politically not in combat arabs can't fight they just keep fighting even when there massacred. We should of killed 9 in 10 but nope Bush got us a 20 year occupation to waste time in but we lose more people in one American city then we lost in the whole war. They also still live in a shit whole so its not a political lose I give a single shit about.

>>63902703
nah, you got your ass handed to you both politically and in combat. Just like in Vietnam.

>>63902737
NTA but stayed for 20 years and never lost a battle, and the enemy only took over once we voluntarily vacated the country. Saying "u lost!" is disingenuous.

>>63902758
>never lost a battle
True, you lost the war.

>>63902768
I would say the ANA lost the war.
Political defeat, not military.

>>63902768
Afghanistan is skilled in a very unique form of warfare where they die in large numbers for so long that empires exhaust their budget buying more bullets and bombs to kill them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKBIZcdvOSc

>>63902769
>tries to conquer nation for 20 years
>fails and has to scurry back home defeated
That sounds like a political and military defeat.

>>63902777
>>tries to conquer nation for 20 years
>tries
come on thirdie anon. The US did conquer it, they just couldn't actually cement their puppet government so it folded immediately.

>>63902777
>conquer nation in weeks
>crush several rebellions
>do it all with both hands tied: insane ROE, weapons limits, political silliness you name it, choosing to fight most battles with small arms instead
>win so many the next generation of rebels know they can't beat you man to man, and are forced to snipe at a distance only to get airstriked
>keep a boot on their neck effortlessly anyway. Soldiers are at war but America is at the mall.
>called home by politicians once they realize this isn't going anywhere
>uuuuuhhhhhh you suck haha
Seethe, thirdie.

>>63901670
The "english" came after the normans, so your retarded analogy doesn't work.

>>63901514 (OP)
they live in a desert

>>63901514 (OP)
Iranians are Arabs but their ruling class is. They worship a moon rock god who lives in a big black cube that they all make pilgrimage to so they can tongue its anus because a schizophrenic pedophile warlord who lived 600 years after Christ told them they should do that. You have to be completely retarded to be in the muslim cult, so of course they're bad at war.

>>63901595
>tiny

>>63903550
>1 billion strong western coalition against 50 million Persians
Yeah
>>63902823
>>conquer nation in weeks
America only controlled 70% of Afghanistan at the height of US occupation

>>63901758
Nah, America won the Civil War, they just shit the bed badly during reconstruction and allowed the cancer that was the Lost Cause to metastasize..

>>63901514 (OP)
Iranians aren't arabs you stupid redneck. The arabs (who live in the province of Khuzestan) are one of the groups rebelling against the Iranian government, they've been against the regime ever since the Iran-Iraq War where they helped Saddam's forces.

Pashtuns and Balochis and other Afghan ethnic groups aren't arab either, for the retards bringing up Afghanistan.

>>63903104
England came into being around 927.
>>63901670
30%-60% of English words come from Norman-French. So it did leave a mark. At least we don't have the French legal system.

>>63901514 (OP)
Seems like they were doing a pretty good job transforming Israel into Gaza.

>>63903160
it's an unholy cross between goatse and gloryhole

>>63904041
And some nigger shat on that moonrock once.

>>63903561
astronomical levels of thirdie cope

>>63901514 (OP)
Same reason why African militaries are so weak and can have warlords rule half of a country with 300 guys and AKs.
>society is based around tribes and has been as far back as you can look
>these tribes hates eachothers guts or at the very best dislike eachother
>the most powerful tribe within a nation takes power through military force
>in order to stay in power, this tribe trains and arms its own members to form a form of "royal guard" whose sole purpose is to protect the ruling tribes claim to power
>due to the hundreds of different tribes spanning a nation the ruling tribe is almost always a tiny minority
>due to being a minority there isn't enough fighting age men available to train to create a fully functional military, just enough to protect the ruling tribe
>as no military can be formed they can't amass enough manpower to invade neighbouring nations even though they have no defenses
>this enormous power vacuum outside the major cities allow warlords and gangs to take over hundreds of square kms
>when a nation actually wants to invade someone they are going to have to conscript other tribes who are usually given minimal training as to be able to somehwat perform but not be able to stage a coup
>these conscripts dislike the ruling tribe and thus have no morale to fight and even overthrow the gouverment after a conflict is ended even in a victory
>repeat
None of this is a lie or an overexageration. We all like to go "hurr durr tribal monkey niggers" here, but this is unironically how their societies function.

>>63903810
lies.

israeli air force systematically drops whole city blocks in gaza. not just a single building.

>Why are arabs so bad at war
>iranian nuclear program completely obliterated
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